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shelf shelter programs walsh programs. >> we >> diversified base it's done what the community leaders in the area where we work have partnered with us to do. and we always stay there with a hand in disaster relief. should terms of flooding or storms and that sort of thing. and education is i think only now again, going to be a principal part of what we do there in terms of the biggest needs right now, what, what are some of the biggest concerns sean? >> well certainly security. and that's something that i've taught. i've taught haitians that who are not looking to have foreign troops come in as peacekeepers. let's say, and create another minus problem but are looking for the training of their police, the resourcing of their police >> and then >> just as significant as the
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food security issues right now, this is a country that's threatening famine threatened with famine. if something isn't done aggressively. >> sean penn, thank you so much >> you bet. >> the news continues right here on cnn >> i'd front next the breaking news, the judge rules against trump rejecting one of his key arguments in pushing think to get his classified documents case dismissed. >> and this >> comes as we are just learning that trump's first criminal trial in new york is now facing a delay plus mike rowe, the tv host known for taking on dirty jobs, put his next job, the rfk juniors running me. he's going to tell you about his very converse station with rfk junior on that topic next. >> and >> breaking news, new reporting tonight on who may be responsible for the vicious attack on alexey navalny's chief of staff the investigative reporter, christo grozev, who exposed the plot to kill navalny with novichok,
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joins me now with his new reporting. let's go out front and good evening. >> i'm erin burnett and outfront tonight, the breaking news trump rejected the judge in the mar-a-lago classified documents case tonight, denying trump specifically, one of his key arguments pushing to dismiss the entire case a trump was there in person today, and the stakes were high. >> it's a >> setback for trump from a judge that he had pointed and has heavily praised i'm very proud to have appointed her, but she very smart and very strong and loves our country >> it is unclear when you hear that and you know, of course, he did a pointer is unclear if judge cannon will end up saving trump from a trial before the election? so many of her rulings at this case thus far have gone in his favor and she was tight-lipped today about when the trial will start. it is still officially scheduled for may 20, although she has said that date is not going to
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happen. >> and >> today they're came another delay that trump wanted way up north in new york. we're prosecutors are now proposing to push back the start of trump's hush money trial by up to 30 days. now remember, this criminal trial was first one of these that was going to happen and maybe the only one to happen in full before the election, it was set to begin in less than two weeks from tonight but now the start date is up in the air after prosecutors said they would give terms team more time to review new records from federal prosecutors. >> delay after delay. and what was the jam pack calendar of court dates for trump member? it was all going to be how's he going to get it all done while he's running in the primaries, while the primaries would still be going on and they, of course not ended so, so quickly but now, forget the primaries is hush money trial is possibly delayed till the end of april, and that would be the first one, the federal january 6 case that is now on hold until after the supreme court oral arguments those already been scheduled till april 22, then you the arguments. you have the
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decision >> experts don't expect that went even start. so maybe the summer, his georgia election interference case, the da a fani willis would like to start on august 5th, but that date is totally up in the air because, uh, judges deciding whether fani willis we'll even beyond the case or whether she gets removed and of course, the classified documents case itself, there's still no word on when that trial will begin. trump arguing it should not even start until after the november election and these delays are potentially trump's ticket to freedom. if he wins we want delays. obviously, i'm running for election >> we want to liaise, obviously, running for election he said it himself and we have a team of reporters standing by tonight, katelyn polantz is outside that courthouse in florida. evan perez is in washington content kaitlan. let me start with you because judge cannon already rejecting one of trump's motions. so what more can you tell us about the hearing today? that hearing workforce goes to be in-person air and there was no delay today from judge cannon in her
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>> decision to reject one of trump's argument but what is happening here in this case is trump is putting all of his defense arguments before the judge, asking her to dismiss the case. she's looking at those those one-by-one today. she looked at two of nine of those arguments that he and his co-defendants are making all different arguments about why they think the case should be dismiss. and we've gotten one ruling that was in after he argued that the law was too vague around national defense secret. she said that's not something i'm going to decide that might be something you may want to argue to a jury later. or we could look at later on in argue in this case. but i'm not dismissing the case right now. there's still as another argument that was made in court today about donald trump keeping the records that were removed from the white house and that he took to mar-a-lago and kept after he left the presidency so i didn't see that those were his personal records. judge aileen cannon seem pretty skeptical of that, but now we wait to see exactly
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what she will do. she's been very cautious it's not to tip her hand in court that she did a bit today. she did such shed some skepticism toward trump and his lawyers for what they were arguing today but everyone here in this case it's very clear that there's a lot of work to do. there's a long road ahead of them. they've spent hours and hours in court together. trump himself in court seems to be quite comfortable for bowl chatting with his lawyers, listening. are reported some uproot producers in the room today even caught some people maybe nodding off as this hearing dragged off on. well into the afternoon. but there are many many hours ahead and many rulings to comment from judge aileen cannon before we get to a trial >> and i probably get your trial or we have guessed even a known trial date. >> katelyn polantz. thank you so much. kaitlan app that courthouse today. and i want to go now to evan perez because he is closely following the late developments i mentioned in the trump hush money case that first criminal case that was scheduled to start in two weeks seven and now maybe not maybe
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not for another 30 days. >> yeah. least 30 days. aaron is almost certain to the judge is going to delay this trial because now the district attorney, alvin bragg, is saying that they are okay with delaying this my at least 30 days up to 30 days. the trump team had asked for 90 days delay because they said of various discovery problems. this is the whole principle that the prosecution has a duty to turn over every all dark kim has that are relevant to trial in order for the defense to be able to be able to to to prepare for trial, of course. so what has happened according to who the district attorney, is that just yesterday, they received about 31,000 pages of documents from the justice department that the fans had requested. now, these were documents. we don't know exactly what these documents are, but we know that these were documents at the defence said that they had requested
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from the justice department because as you know, the justice department had investigated this these allegations of the trump paying hush money ahead of the 2016 election. they had looked at it and in the trump administration and also looked at it in the biden administration and declined to prosecute. so those documents were under a subpoena from the defense and some of those documents only came in yesterday. here's the thing. according to this filing from the district attorney, there may be more documents. i may be coming in, so the issue now becomes how long does judge delays this trial, as you pointed out, this was supposed to start in less than two weeks. and so the question is, does he go with 30 days? does he go all the way? 90 days, which is what trump is asking or somewhere in-between, aaron. >> all right. thank you very much. evan perez in washington and out front. now, the former trump white house lawyer, ty cobb so tie obviously, every development is significant in terms of the ripple effect,
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didn't could have. and judge cannon, aileen cannon, rejecting one of trump's key motions to dismiss the case today. >> but you >> think that it may still have been a good day for trump. explain how come? >> because it was a dei and delay is his whole objective. every day counts. >> the fact that she denied the motion is really sort of inconsequential in my view because all nine motions to dismiss or frivolous it wouldn't take most judges a week to decisively rule on all of them. not sure why argument is even required. >> the >> positions that trump's lawyers have taken are so absurd. but i think it's good that today she came to court, prepared for change. she actually issued a ruling on one of the motions that was argued, but not the other. the other motion, frankly, is an easier motion to dismiss for the court to do. ms and say that trump's
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wrong because it's even more absurd than the one that she did this smith's today on the vagueness issue. so yeah. anything that slows things down and she doesn't she just doesn't have this on a schedule that is likely to get the case resolved before the or even to trial before the election. and i think any trial date that she ultimately sets, even if she goes with the defendants, suggested trial date in august over the smith trial date, month or so earlier. >> the reality >> is that debate will move to this this case is not going to go to trial before the election, and i think everything that she he has done to date ensures that which is an incredible bottom line when you think about it. and i think the context is so important of what you're saying that those nine motions, as you see them are frivolous that she could rule on them. you don't need every time to have a hearing and a date and an argument in court. and yet that is that is what's happened katelyn
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polantz described aileen cannon as skeptical of the notion that trump had the power to designate records as personal and take them with him to mar-a-lago when his presidency ended. but she did say that that could be a quote, forceful trial defense so it's sort of unclear where she stood at least from that. is there any merit to that argument >> none. >> and in fact, at 30,000 feet, you have to ask yourself, how would that ever get in front of the jury? the only way for that to get in front of the jury, the argument that trump head designated the documents as personal to himself is if trump testifies and trump's never going to testify, i mean, he would get eviscerated. >> so >> in the absence of any evidence that supports a legal argument, you can't make the argument the arguments have to be based on the evidence and based on the facts and based on the on the jury instructions relevant to the jury instructions. and there is no jury instruction that says under the under the pra the
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public records act that a president can designate things personal tone, self, if he so decides that's not in the law, it's not in the statute, it's just sort of a silly argument and it has no no legal support. >> i remember the day when he's i can i just have to sort of think about it and it is so the alvin bragg situation, obviously, trump's team had asked for 90 days of a delay. alvin bragg came out and is agreeing and a sense of the delays is necessary. write clearly, saying 30 days if they would go with 30 days, what does this mean? >> well, so what it means for sure is that the case will be delayed judge merchant is not going to risk being reversed on forcing the trial to date earlier than both both the prosecution and defense agree as appropriate. i think it's also means that the da's office just as badly managed this case. these documents have been
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out there for two years ever since the southern district decided not to pursue charges against the former president after having prosecuted my colon. keep in mind that both the sec and the southern district concluded this case required no no action. and they both passed on it. and then bragg's team came up with this tortured yeah misdemeanor are attached to a federal crime theory that has no precedent that supports it. and four case that even if it ever gets to trial, is going to be inconsequential to trump's. i'm just going to go to jail in this case. it's $130,000 a first offense under the new are guidelines. that's just not a it's not worthy of any jail time and it'll be on appeal when he gets if he if he gets elected, it'll be on appeal. during that time and it wouldn't be enforceable for four more years. so it's sort
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of it's sort of an unusual case to gum up the works and moving it back. of course screws up other timelines like the potential for either the classified documents case where the january 6 case to get to trial. >> all right. but ty cobb, thank you very much. always appreciate you. your point of view. and as ty is wrapping here, we do have some breaking news of a verdict which has been reached in the james crumbley trial. here's the michigan father, whose son shot and killed four of his classmates in 2021 prosecutors painted crumbley is a careless, negligent father, who bought his son the gun that the son used in the school shooting his wife, jennifer, has already been found guilty of involuntary manslaughter and is set to be sentenced in a few weeks. i wanna go to whitney wild. she's been following this trial as we are watching the jury come back waiting. this verdict and we hope to be able to actually hear this live whitney, what are we looking at? and obviously this is
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victims families are in this room waiting >> i cannot stress enough era in the city significance of this moment. this is the end of this horrific, more than two years saga for these families that began november 30th. >> whitney sorry to interrupt. jack. 18-year-old do you think let's just listen here. i think they've just started so we'll listen together to know about me, read that into the record. >> hello to >> the attorneys who answered the questions so that i sent the question back. they agree on the answer the jury asked, please define article 16.13 for whitman before. define willfully neglected and grossly negligent the lawyers agreed to answer the question. please see jury instructions 16.18 for the definition of gross negligence all other definitions are contained within jury instructions 16.13 i also want to point out that there's a request by the media to ask the jury members if they reviewed
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going to remain in the courthouse and questioned off camera because there would be a verdict and no other defendant pending trial. i would have been willing to do that but the courthouse closes at 04:30 and i have continually imposed on the courthouse for the sake of this trial and the other one i cannot impose on the staff for the deputies and any further. >> i also wanted to >> point to indicate that with regard to case number 20 zero fh, the people versus jennifer crumbley. there is an order restricting pretrial publicity. it was entered on july 14, 2022 porter, who will be set aside as soon as the verdict was read i will also be issuing an order that will obviously not be made public. in the courthouse until tomorrow morning in addition, case number 20227998 fh of the people versus james james crumbley the same thing. the
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>> good evening >> ladies and gentlemen. i know you've worked very hard with all going away getting your decision. i know this was a very intense decision for you all to make i believe you've selected a poor person who's poor person, you're the foreperson could you read the verdict police >> each sure how one involuntary manslaughter as to madison baldwin, guilty of involuntary manslaughter as to madisyn baldwin involuntary manslaughter as up mirror guilty of involuntary manslaughter, set column three in manslaughter acts of hamas and giulianna guilty of involuntary manslaughter as two
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harnessing beyond four involuntary manslaughter. as to justin shilling, guilty of involuntary manslaughter suggestions >> thank you for person. i'm going to ask that ms williams pull the jury so she's going to ask you each during seat number one why is that? is that your verdict during think number two, was that and is that your verdict during fleet number three, was that an event you're verdant during sleep? we're four. why is that? is that never hit during seat number six like that? and if that you're burden during seat number seven, was that is that year >> during i think number eight points that, and is that you're verdict during sleep number nine, wife that and if not, you dirty feet. number 11, was that and it's right there during seat number. was that is that your verdict? >> yes, it is >> during seat number 13, was that is that your verdict? it is stirring. seat number 14. was that and is that your
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verdict >> thank you, ladies and gentlemen, i know how hard this has been on all of you. just by reading your face i know this has been a very hard decision appreciate your time. i'm going to ask you to return to the dr. room and i'll be there. they're with you in a few minutes? all right. >> all rise for the jury? >> james crumbley found guilty of all four counts of involuntary manslaughter what are you heard each of the jurors their confirmed that was their verdict. >> whitney wild. we were able to look at james crumbley, the father of ethan crumbley, who killed four i think classmates, murdered four of his classmates. his father james, now convicted of involuntary manslaughter. he was wearing those sort of headphones. he has a hearing impairment. you could see him visibly shaking his head at each time. the word guilty was said by the foreperson of that jury
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>> well, that's right. aaron and his defendant continuous we argued that he had no knowledge that his son post any harm to anyone else and that in fact, he had tried to get a firearm out of ethan crumbley's hands by hiding it in an arm war in his, in his bedroom and then separating out the ammunition and hiding it under neith, a pair of jeans and it was really these to these two elements that prosecutors really dug into in the case. and it was this idea that ethan crumbley had declining mental health and it was obvious to everyone i'm one should have act specifically, his parents should have acted because there were just signs over and over and over four months leading up to the shooting that he posed a risk to those around him? while it's doing so. >> so that was the first thing. and then specifically with the james crumbley trial, aaron, they really dug into the securing of the firearm a couple of pieces of evidence that prosecutors brought forth again, was the idea that you this hand going to have been stored, but it didn't have a a
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lock on the firearm. it it takes just seconds to lock up firearm with a walk that is standard. that comes in a kit with a handgun. he didn't do that. that was one of the things that prosecutors really dug into. we can't know what piece of evidence and so it was that pushed the jury in this direction, but other pieces of evidence that they brought forth included a april of 2021 text message that ethan crumbley sent to a friend and in it, he said that he had told his father that he was hearing people talk to him and seeing someone in the distance. and here's a quote from the text from ethan to his friend. i actually asked my dad to take me to the dr. yesterday, but he just gave me some pills and told me to suck it up. so those are some major pieces of evidence error in that that jurors heard throughout the trial. this trial saw 15 witnesses for prosecutors spread over five days. the defense brought just one witness james crumbley, sister, karen crumbley, who said that she saw the family and april
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and that again in june 2021, and she did not see anything that seemed off, anything concerning at all. but another piece of evidence, aaron. and just to wrap it up, that prosecutors really leaned into was this idea that it was james crumbley humbly who brought ethan to the gun range several times, and six times from june 2021 through november, and that it was james crumbley who bought the firearm that you can eventually we'll use to kill those four students and injure several others at his high school. >> whitney. thank you very much. and it is a significant verdict of guilty verdict for james crumbley, the father of ethan than crumbley. this also follows the guilty verdict for ethan crumbley's mother, jennifer crumbley, who was tried separately and is awaiting sentencing in early april, guilty on all four counts, ethan crumbley killed four of his classmate t is serving life in prison without the possibility of parole, even though he was 15 at the time of the shooting joey jackson is with me now, criminal defense
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attorneys, cnn legal analyst. analysts do as you watched the drama of this moment, a jury coming in a jury of james crumbley's peers coming to this conclusion that a father is guilty and liable responsible, involuntary manslaughter, four murders that his son committed what is the significance of such a verdict >> yeah. and i think it's just tremendously significant. in so many ways. and i think we're living in a new world now. and that new world is a prosecutor saying if we're not going to have legislation, if we're not going to have significant protections, we're going to take it upon ourselves to use the law in a way that gets accountability to everyone and anyone who could have potentially been involved and i think from a big picture perspective, this is not only about this jurisdiction, this is about jurisdictions in every part of these 50 united states that can you use this tool of
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negligence and use it effectively, right? negligence and foreseeability. what does that mean? it means that if you are a parent and you're careless because you get your child a weapon. and not only do you get your child a weapon, but you fail to secure that weapon. and you have or should have some sense of your child's mental health maladies and you do nothing to really oversee it or to act in a way that is appropriate, in a way that protects the public, then you could be accountable. and this is what this prosecutor did on the issue of foreseeability. i don't think anyone can argue with a straight face that if you make a weapon available and your child isn't a condition that your child is in that something like this is not likely to happen. and so from a big picture perspective, it's not a surprising verdict, but i think it's a verdict fat nowadays is going to be used as a tool by
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prosecutors and very effectively, i would think in order to deter this type of conduct moving forward so joey, what happens now, as i said, now that james crumbley has been found guilty of involuntary manslaughter for all >> four murders. his wife has been found guilty. now, her sentencing i believe is gonna be april 9 or around around that date? >> so >> how long are they what's going to happen to them? how long are they going to go to prison? what happens here with this >> well, quite a bit. >> i think what >> happens is that they will stay in custody. remember that the total exposure by exposure, i mean the maximum that they are facing is 15 in years. i would suspect that a judge in each of their cases, each being jennifer crumbley, the mother, as you noted, aaron being fence on april 9, the sentencing date. she's certainly to be imposed upon james crumbley, who just now was convicted i
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would presume that both will get the maximum, and i think that when you sentence the purpose of that is punishment, deterrence, rehabilitation. what does all that mean? means number one, you want to punish a person for their conduct or carelessness. in this case, right? so that's number one when you talk about deterrence, you look being at deterring other people for doing something like this. and on the issue of rehabilitation, i'm sure attorneys will argue, hey, it wasn't their fault, et cetera. rehabilitation shouldn't apply. but they think they will get the max i think ultimately, certainly they will appeal and we'll see what the appellate courts have to say. >> all right. joey. thank you very much for joining us as we just got word of that momentous verdict. next, dirty jobs host, mike rowe this tackled all sorts of 30 jobs. now though, he is centered on rfk juniors list for vice president. so what did kennedy say? two row when? they spoke about the job,
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with freelancers apply. >> this situation with wolf blitzer weekdays, it's six cnn, closed captioning brought to you by mesobook.com >> our firm has offered a free book about mesothelial for over ten years. mesothelioma is really all we do. >> 808724901 tonight, vice esid kennedy, jr. calling, wrote to talk about the job emmy award winning tv host mike rowe is famously known for the hit show, dirty jobs and then he tweeted from the airport, boarding a flight at dfw dallas, just saw this on a monitor sure airports are funny places and the this is of course that cnn graphic of rfk juniors, vp list. mike rowe, highlighted on it right now and he is out front with me to talk about this and more so. >> all right. migrate to see you. let's just start with this. kennedy talk to you about
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possibly joining his ticket what did he say >> it's a weird world, man. i mean, you really like you're walking through an airport, you're minding your own business and you look up and there you are with wrestler and a motivational speaker end up star athlete. yeah, he called actually i ran into him about six months ago in dallas, totally serendipitously and we exchanged information and he reached out about a month ago. we had a meeting and we talked about a bunch. mostly we talked about my foundation and he was very kind and it turns out this foundation i've been doing for about 16 years. now, crow was very much on his mind. yeah, micro works. so we talked about vocational training and we talked about ways to maybe get the educational system and our country a bit more egalitarian. we've talked about a lot of other stuff too, that at some point he asked me if i'd ever consider running for public office and i split my coffee
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back into my cup and said seriously >> and he said, yeah. and so for the first time in my life, i've found myself having kind of a really serious conversation about what that even means and why i had that conversation. i'm happy to talk about it if you want, but it was it was not expected. but ultimately really kind of gratifying and so i mean was he talking to you specifically about the vp role and what that meant and what that would mean to you. i mean, what can you give me more of a feel for what the conversation was about and how he behaved well. >> he's very gracious and he's very smart, and he's very direct. and i had no idea what i was really walking into, but his his team was there and they were also super inquisitive. they they listened more than they talked. i wound up
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interviewing him. he interviewed me. we had a few laughs. >> it was a very >> friendly, very casual conversation, but he's serious. and when he talks about the things he's serious about, he leans in and it's hard not to listen. he's serious about the debt. he doesn't want to see 34 trillion get 250. you believes if it does, the country can serve as it party's over he is serious about ending forever wars. she's serious about weight waging war really on chronic disease and diabetes and things like that. >> we don't >> agree on everything that's for sure and when that became apparent, he just laughed and said, look, i don't i don't want to surround myself with yes, men and yes women. i want people who care about the country. i want people who tell me the truth as they see it and let the chips fall you said a lot of stuff that was good to hear frankly. >> did i mean so when you talk
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about things, you didn't agree with him on, i mean, is there anything you can be specific on and did he bring up things that as you know, mike have been controverted russell, you talk about his care for health, for example, vaccines. i mean, did topics like that come up directly >> not really because that stuff has been so talk to death in the media that he's everybody kinda knows. all right, this is the wrap is there anything you want to say about it specifically? >> honestly, aaron? >> yeah. we did talk about some of that stuff and i don't know that it's fair for me to really walk you through a chapter and verse. i told him, for instance, luck. i i'm friendly with a lot of people in the fossil fuel business that's not a secret. my foundation is supported by all sorts of people who he sued in the past. we laughed about that and just kept coming back to look. we're living in an extraordinary time. the
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headlines have never been like this. the things that we seem to agree on, we appear to agree on with a certain amount of passion and then it just became personal to tell you the truth. look, i've been doing this foundation for 16 years at base. it's a pr campaign at base, it's an attempt to raise awareness around a couple of things that matter to me. a lot and he was very upfront about it. he said, look mike, that topic education middle-class vocational development and workforce and so forth. that's that's the pointy part of the spear in my campaign. it matters. and if you want to see your foundation go from mike rowe works to macro works. i think he said, then you should think about this. you should at least consider it. and so i did consider it. you mean consider the vp slot? >> sure >> so when asked you one thing here as you talk about the seriousness with which rfk junior is taking the decision that he has to make and his
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campaign and the people around him on his list, you mentioned a sports star that of course is the nfl quarterback aaron rodgers. >> and i >> don't know if, you know this, but rodgers told two people and one of those people is cnn's pamela brown he told them about conspiracy theories about the 2012 shooting at sandy hook elementary including saying the shooting was a government inside job that victims, families were crisis actors. do you believe that that is a serious point of view? is that somebody that should be on a kennedy ticket >> i have no idea. i think that i think he has a right to articulate whatever he wants and we have a right to respond. however, we want i have no idea what the man actually said. i did see something about it today, but i don't know what qualifies are disqualifies anybody from running for anything. somebody said to me
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the other day, a friend of mine who saw the same graphic that you put up earlier? i think i think her exact question was how the hell are you qualified to do this? and i started to explain how she was right and how i wasn't. and bobby said something to me. he said there's so many skeletons in my closet. if you really open it up and give it a look, and the end, if they could all vote, i'd be king of the world. which made me laugh. you'd probably find stupid stuff that anybody has said. but what really qualifies a man or a woman to run for president or vice president. i think you've gotta be 35 i think you need to have been born in this country after that. >> i don't know about qualifications. i guess we could talk experience and judgment and temperament and all of those other things and everybody gets to weigh and measure everybody and put it all under a microscope and and and decide personally, i stopped watching football after the colts left baltimore. so i don't know how much use i can
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be on that. >> oh, wow wouldn't even think we'd have a baltimore connection like that. all right. thank you. >> my heart, aaron broke my heart aza maryland or i hear you. all right. thank you so much. i appreciate your time, mike. and it's always great to see you >> shameless plug a million bucks for work ethic scholarships available now at micro works.org for anybody who's inclined, you got it. >> and thank you. >> you're welcome >> and outfront. next breaking news, new details on who may have been behind the brutal attack on alexey navalny's chief of staff investigative reporter, christo grozev, who expose the plot to kill navalny, has new reporting elon musk and damage control mode is tesla stocks slide he's in berlin amid protests at one of his tesla factories sugar ray leonard, you every tasks wearing boxing gloves >> bird >> and now putting on his new arch fit sketcher slip-ups. you
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made affordable erin burnett outfront tomorrow at seven odd cnn >> breaking news, new reporting tonight about the brutal attack on alexey navalny's chief of staff, leonid volkov, who was beaten with a hammer in his home in lithuania well, koppe left with a swollen face is leg covered in blood. and tonight, investigative reporter crystal grows up familiar to anyone.
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many of you watching the show is learning a russian linked group is taking credit for the brutal attack. and cristo joins me now so christo, let's start with so much of the new information that you have. you have shared new images of volkov with us these are images that you obtained of him from various sources. i don't know surveillance or what it was in the days before the attack? so what are you learning >> well, first of all, let's say that the official investigation has not disclosed any details here. that's the lithuanian law enforcement are working on it and they're asking everybody to be patient. however, in the meantime, there's this russian extremist far-right white supremacist group which formerly was called the male state. and more recently changes names to the male battalion run by an extremist called bloodmeal poor snake of they took credit for the attack, at least they claim soul and they published some
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previously unseen footage that this suggests that there was some surveillance alone. it ball cove conducted by somebody doesn't have to be necessarily by this group, but this group was given the footage and the footage is authenticated as real. we were able to actually geolocate the footage to the airport in vilnius. the sort of description of the snapshot two that was posted on this time milligram channels run by posting a cough suggests that that it was taken five to six days before the attack while he was coming from an overseas trip and his wife was waiting at the airport and they showed actually close-up of the light slate of his car actually, the parking lot. so this was really an intelligence operation dr. on him by somebody. now, an >> intelligence operation and to be clear, you're you're making several points here. the intelligence that he was being trailed, followed and they were they were tracking him even as he was unaware. >> that is that is true. and i
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don't believe that this could be done by a volunteer organization extremes those it may be we have to bring to the attention of the viewers the fact that there's many, many cases in the last few months where we see russian intelligence services co-opting, organized crime groups extremist groups to actually do their bidding. and then pass it on as if it's say grassroots operation. and i think this is likely to be one of these circumstances. and just to make the point very clear, you're saying that the fsb using some of these criminal groups to some of these cases kill people but this is exactly what you painstakingly proved in your investigation into the murder of alexey navalny himself? in that case, it was you were pointing the finger directly at the fsb and it at russian intelligence but this seems to be a playbook, right? you track your photographic evidence, you track them for weeks in
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advance. >> that is true. that is true. but what has changed, the only thing that has changed in the meantime is that the russian agents, security services find it hard to travel abroad then they did a few years back. there's more awareness, there's more knowledge of the trade craft they used and they tend to somehow use now these days they tend to use more outsourcing to organized crime groups. very recently, you may have seen coverage of a group of about six freelance intelligence operators who were arrested in uk they were working for russia's intelligence service, the fsb, the same one that poisoned alexei navalny the first time around. but they will private operators there were recently in this hasn't been reported yet. we will publish an investigation in in about a week on this, but there was a co-opting of an organized crime figure from eastern europe to attack an opposition figure. of russia living in latin america. so this is not the first time that we see such to make
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special services of russia's intelligence operations and organized crime groups and i think we'll see more of that in the future >> all right, so all of this is incredible and i think your point about how it's harder for them to travel overseas so that they're co-opting these groups and that that's why you're seeing this now. you also told me krystyna, that your team has discovered a campaign against alexey navalny's wife, yulia, a campaign to discredit her, but it started about ten days before navalny's murder with the clear implication being that they were setting it up to discredit her so that when they killed him and she and evidence sibley tried to take the mantle. she would be diminished. >> now, there is a video of a >> fake bbc report that is now circulating, being shared by pro-kremlin users on x you are mentioned in it and it's alleging that you discovered that the former ukrainian general, valery zaluzhny received a bribe and he was paid $53 million to stay out of ukrainian politics. that claim
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is false >> as we understand it. >> and a >> claim in the sense to discredit you what do you think is happening here? >> i think russia, us intelligence services are really panicking and they're trying to enter new territory. they're actually using people that they consider to be effective enemies of the regime of their own. this information game and try to leverage the trust in such figures being journalists or opposition figures, and put words in their mouth that they never said. in this case, they used me to actually click make allegation against those illusionary that he's corrupt, which has been made. but it did get traction. a lot of people, but you could call them useful idiots. you could call them people who ideological are aligned with the kremlin. they believed that if this is a video, if it looks like a bbc video, it must be true. it's completely fraudulent, is completely take similar the attacks on on yulia navalnaya. they're comprised
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of faked booking.com reservations. and again, because they are visual, because they're posted a zero, there a document, a piece of a document. a lot of people who want to believe this nonsense are actually start spreading it. >> christo, thank you very much. sobering. and such important and crucial new reporting from cristo all coming as russians right now are voting in the country's presidential election. and matthew chance is out front from moscow tonight in some areas like annexed parts of ukraine, voting in this russian election has >> already begun the outcome, say observers is inevitable. >> it the summer should see dne boot. >> i'm just happy russia has accepted us, says this woman in donetsk and i love everyone who votes for putin.
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>> she says, but kremlin leader has barely campaigned for his fifth term in what observers say is the most vacuous, empty russian election in memory? >> glossu do that, i want to go move your routines, campaign ads simply asked voters who they trust. >> 86 percent according to latest opinion polls say it's him. a sudden death in jail last month of alexey navalny, the kremlin's most prominent critic has left the russian opposition in despair so if alexey navalny was on the ballot, voted for, of course. but now, but no >> maybe i write this name politicians voicing even mild dissent from the kremlin, like boris nadezhdin, you wanted to stand on an anti-war platt have been denied registration. has
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candidates of course, officially there's a choice like voting for the communist it's party candidates. nikolay had a turnoff and his vision, which view russian share for return to a glorious socialist past but you're going to have cook italy's this, this the, i just landed slutsky with once at the center of sexual harassment allegations. he denied any wrongdoing, later, apologizing for distress. sea may have caused. >> you think you would be a better president than putin, a better president, vladimir putin >> this this is for our population. >> what do you think you're standing against? you don't think you're going to be better. why would you stand against him >> for me >> know? >> let's check. who participate in the election will just loved the one cof your prayers, participation without criticism of putin
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here's what this entire russian election is. all a bag >> independent election observers >> described vladislav davankov, the loci final candidates as trying not to attract jus attention criticism in russian politics, it seems that's because thing of the past. will aaron tonight the russian authorities are warning against the tending any unsanctioned protests during the election period. this of course, amid opposition, calls for russians the gather at a specific time voting stations on sunday, the russian prosecutor's office says that anyone attending or taking part in unsanctioned gatherings will face criminal liability. a threat essentially to crack down at the first sign of any protests. aaron, back to you. >> all right. thanks so much to you, matthew chance and we'll see what happens. i've been so many brave people went to alexey navalny's funeral lining the streets. we'll see
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what happens this weekend. also new tonight, elon musk under fire on multiple fronts tonight, tesla shares now down 32% for the year. in fact, tesla is currently the worst performer in the s&p 500 a top tesla investors says musk himself is to blame. it's not the only crisis that he's facing right now. fred pleitgen was with him today outfront it seemed like a major win for elon musk, his company spacex, managing to launch the world's most powerful >> rocket called starship for other than ever before, while losing both the ship and the booster rocket and the test but back on earth, elon musk is in damage control mode, visiting his tesla factory near berlin, germany after an arson attack claimed by an activist group opposed to the plant, knocked its power out for more than a week. mosque unwilling to speak to the press. some reporters yelling questions. the offense
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led near berlin, hundreds protesting during the electric vehicle production could seriously impact the entire areas drinking water supply test tesla's production is in a drinking water protection area that's protester says they therefore endanger people's drinking water, not just here, but in this region and all so in berlin bosque is facing backlash after reported work safety issues at tesla factories, the company rejecting such claims, saying worker health at its german plant is a top priority the company stock taking a nose dive mosque also regularly faces backlash for controversial posts and re-tweets on his social media platform. x. >> woke >> ideology wants you to die. this one says, dei is just another word for racism. he writes here while another user claims democrats are trying to replace the us electorate by allowing migrants into the
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country must calls it crazy in a tweet hate speech pressed on his views by former cnn host don lemon. and what was supposed to be lemons new show on x musk, thin skinned >> i don't have to answer questions from reporters don the only reason i'm doing this interview is because you're on the x platform you asked for it. otherwise, there would not do this interview. >> so you don't think you do you think that you wouldn't get in trouble or you wouldn't be criticized for the same crossover and when i could care less, the whole idea of x immediately asked its partnership with the show. lemon says elon musk's claims of being a champion of free speech called into question. lemon told erin burnett, free speech is only important when someone you don't like or i would say someone who doesn't have your same point of view are someone is if they're allowed to speak freely and to say their point of view i apparently that doesn't matter to elon musk is just for pleitgen, cnn berlin and also
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tonight saying goodbye to the 40-hour workweek, have people perk up? well, that is what bernie sanders, senator bernie sanders is proposing this. and in a very serious way, he now has a bill that would cut the standard work week in the united states from 40 hours to 32 for the same amount of pay are numbers, minor, guru, you mine the numbers i, harry enten joins me now. all right, so harry, a lot of people hear this and they scoff and they say this is ridiculous. this is, you want to pay this people the same amount of money to work less. and when you work less, you get less and everything starts to fall down you've looked at the numbers where this has been tried. what happened? >> yeah, there was a great global experiment that was done a few years ago on the 32 hour workweek four day workweek. and you know what happened to the companies that did it. the revenue actually went up. the revenue went up significantly when up 38% and employers rated employee productivity and nine out of ten. so the fact is in these companies that tried it
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actually worked out pretty gosh darn well, erin, that's a pretty amazing i've been reading some of the studies about it. i mean, the reasons why people having other things in their lives and being able to be all in it work when they're there the average american worker works more than many european workers just on the average week, how does us workweek though, stack up around the world? >> yeah, this is interesting, right? we'd like to compare ourselves to, let's say, the united kingdom, or let's say other european countries, like france and you say, okay, france and the uk on average, 29, 29 hours let's per week, this includes full-time and part-time workers. but if you look at the us 35, but israel and south korea actually work more than the united states to yes, if, we compare ourselves to the europeans, we work a lot more. but if you compare ourselves to other industrialized countries like those in the middle east or those in the far east. in fact, we actually works slightly less so. well. bernice hendry's bill passed, you know what? i don't know if it will probably not, >> but i will say among the american public, it's actually something that's quite popular. the idea of a four-day
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