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of our election is going to play out in this 2024 election year. >> good morning. i'm casey hans. it's wonderful to have you with us. the on-again, off-again texas immigration law is off again for now, late last night and appeals court blocked sb4 from being enforced just hours after the supreme court approved it. >> this measure would allow >> local law enforcement and texas to detain an arrest any migrant suspected of being in the country illegally democrats argue that the laws unconstitutional and say it will lead to racial profiling. and then none of this would even be necessary if republicans were serious about dealing with the border crisis. >> to deeply troubling decision from the extreme conservatives on the supreme court. what we are seeing from many of our republican colleagues is that they don't want to actually address the issue. they just want to engage in political stunts we'll try not to solve the issue so they can weaponize

the border and immigration issue in november >> all right. with us before now blocks the fifth circuit court of appeals is going to hear arguments later this morning to decide whether it can be implemented. all right. joining us now to talk about all of this former trump administration official map an hour's democratic strategists, christie setser and terror pulmonary, she senior political correspondent at puc so matt mauer is obviously came jeffrey's talking there about the fact that there was this massive border security bill that was agreed upon, negotiated by very conservative senator james lankford. donald trump comes in, says, i don't want this, i don't want to fix this problem right now. now this is easier if i have it as a political problem the reality though, is that, you every day that we're talking about this issue as a day that honestly republicans have a leg-up. >> if you look at who trusts >> who is trusted in the country on this issue, it's republicans, it's not president biden what do you see here in terms of this decision

and how this is actually playing out politically we'll look, you've got the texas governor, greg abbott. you've got the texas legislature saying the federal government hasn't handled this problem. we're going to step in and handle it. we have the right to do so. we're going to actually go forth and do it. you now have president biden in his administration being forced to try to take a softened approach towards a legal immigration by suing texas. now, they may have constitutional grounds and tenth amendment grounds of the rest of it. they may have a whole bunch of processes and reasons for posing it. >> but >> politically, it's a problem for them. and you see this in poll after poll, after poll you talked about the fact that voters are now saying they trust donald trump's significantly more on the border, more and more voters, not only that are actually ranking the border is the number one issue that's not just republican, same for republicans for a long time now it said the borders number one issue, it's independence and democrats. you also saw joe biden underperform in many border counties like star county and reeves county the texas border of the texas democratic primary, getting less than 50% of the vote in those counties. his real problem on its hands with these

christie way in here. >> i >> mean, the the president obviously is trying to the administration. i should say is trying to knock this down match, right? i mean, there's kind of obvious reasons for it, honestly, right? from a constitutional perspective, the idea is the federal government should be dealing with this. this should not be, should be dealing with citizens with the actual borders of the country that it's a federal, not a state issue. but the reality is, i mean the texas governor greg abbott has been pretty politically effective and basically saying, look like the federal government's not dealing with this problem. so we have to do something. >> how does it cut that >> the biden administration is out there having to say like, no, don't do this >> well, i mean, i think that you're the biden campaign has been somewhat effective in calling out republicans by saying, you guys are just playing games here. this isn't you are doing this because you see that the economy is coming back. >> you know that you're not going to have that issue to run on. >> so you're >> using this, you're playing games in congress, and now you have obviously a 6-3

conservative supreme court that's going to back you on this law that effectively is texas is show us your papers. law. that's going to empower vigilantes. it's going to do all these terrible things and have all these cool consequences in terms of allowing local law enforcement to arrest who they think looks illegal. basically, where they have not been effective. i think we're democrats have not been effective is in providing alternate messaging, which is to say that to the extent that republicans have been successful in putting border security and the importance of it on the agenda. democrats have pretty much embraced some of that position by saying, yeah, yeah, we agree that it's important and that's why we're being so strong on it. and that's why we're backing the length or bill that wrote all of that. so i think but democrats need to do, is something very different, which is to say, to talk about immigration also, as of a benefit to the economy, right?

pieces like that. well president >> biden has been doing this swing tara through states where there are significant latino populations. this is a group of voters verse you really needs, if he wants to maintain the coalition that landed him in the white house in 2020. let's play a little bit of what joe biden said about donald trump and trump's he said that trump basically despises immigrants listen to this here's what he said. floyd, new blood of the country. he separated kitchen just the border that he kids to children. this types of latinos. i understand. lupino value >> like it's time we just celebrated st. patrick's day for not offended by my savings, but about irish, she can do about family, about faith, about decency yes. that's exactly what latina clearly is all about.

>> okay. so i think this is a very strong messaging like poisoning the blood of our society. it's a terrifying phrase right? at the same time, a lot of latinos, they're not monolithic. a lot of them have been in this country for many years. many of them live in texas and they're second, third latinos and they don't really have a lot in common with the people that just come over so the have crossed the border and come and live in this country, were coming from even deeper in south america than mexico. they're coming from el salvador, guatemala, there anything coming from third countries outside of south america. so i think that is part of the reason why are seeing hispanic communities becoming increasingly more republican. i mean, they're winning republicans are winning hispanic annex over biden is losing right? at this point. and there were traditionally a more conservative group of people. they don't love the tone policing from the far left. they don't like to be called latinx they don't like a lot of the rhetoric you hear from the far left, which is actually a lot louder than biden's rhetoric. i would argue by in this pretty moderate on immigration but again, like they're playing

catch-up in the past year, maybe past six months democrats have seen their polling shows. wo, democrats are saying immigration is number one concern. we better do something about this. let's support a bipartisan border bill. but like you said, it's baked in the brand of the republican party that they are just stronger on aggression and crime. >> and >> it's going to take years, not in the past six months to a year to turn that around. and the republicans have, even though they made a cynical political play to block the border because of donald trump, the border bill at the end of the day, they have images and videos of people crossing the border and hordes every single day this is a last-minute attempt by democrats also realizing that they need to do something about the border for their political purposes. so i think it's a cynical political play by both sides to be honest. >> very brief last word. i was just going to say the word president biden here. is that going back to inauguration day, what he signed an executive order to rescind the remain in mexico policy ever since that and immigration actions he took

early in administration. it's set the tone at it from the top about his position on the border. it's the reason why americans aren't buying any discussion about this border bill had hamstring to a certain extent there. if they wanted to do an executive order now on immigration, it would be like, well, why didn't you do that when you first came in? i do take that point. all right. come on up next. donald trump signaling he might support a federal 15 week abortion ban. we're going to dig into that plus a congressman who has been rescuing americans from violence torn haiti joins me just ahead and all systems go for another test flight of the most powerful rocket ever built. >> we're here to get your side of the story. >> why do we keep ending up here? >> you can't write this stuff. >> yeah, states of scandal with jake tapper. it's sunday at nine on see it? >> kinda riva support your brain health >> very janet. hey, eddie, know fraser, franck. franck, bread. how are you >> fred fuel up to seven brain health indicators, including your memory, joined the nar

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macs >> welcome back. so just days after floating a possible 16 week national abortion ban, donald trump now toying with a different deadline, moving it up by a week. watch the number of weeks now, people are agreeing on 15, and i'm thinking in terms of that, and it'll come out >> to something that's very reasonable but people are really even hard-liners are agreeing seems to be 15 weeks, seems to be a number that people are agreeing at all right. >> cnn's i'm going to train covers the trump campaign for us and she joins the table alena, good morning. so what is going on with this? why does he keep talking about this? he seems to know the political dangers around this. and yet here we are and now he's shortening it from 16, 15 weeks. who is in his ear? why are we getting this? >> so there are definitely people in his ear. some of the typical people but you know, i know that marjorie dennis feller, the president of sba, less susan b. anthony, pro-life, has been talking to him a lot about this. i know others have when senator lindsey graham is someone who

consistently has been talking to donald trump about the abortion issue. but the thing that's really interesting is that when i talk to the trump campaign in his advisers, they repeatedly always tell me you're not planning for some big policy roll out on this, especially because they didn't even do that during the primary, there were questions during the premier of whether donald trump needed to come out with some more firm policy on what he would do about abortion and donald trump himself did not want to do that because of the political ramifications. ramifications of it. so it is interesting that all of a sudden we're hearing about on abortion again, now that we're in the general and everyone on his campaign does not think that the politics of this is smart or the rhetoric is smart. and so what i've been told, he's doing is he's kind of tests met test messaging, some of this language and i do think he's being asked about it a lot. i do think there's a lot of attention on this because it's such a key general election issue for democrats and joe biden ahead of november. but behind the scenes, again, i'm consistently told by his campaign that this isn't

necessarily anything that he's going to actually be putting out any real policy around at anytime soon. >> what do you see here to >> this is typical donald trump, he does not want to be pinned to the wall all on any exact abortion policy. he'll probably come up with some other number next week. it'll be like 21 weeks. who knows and he'll continue to do this because he knows it's not a winner. right now, the people that they have the evangelicals in their pocket, they have the maga far right. the people, they don't have our suburban educated swing voters that care about this issue, trump knows that he's eyeing up his vice presidential candidate based on their extremity on abortion policies, policies essentially. and so i don't expect you're ever really going to get a firm answer from donald trump on abortion inevitably get a firm answer from him, really on anything i think except as immigration policies and the wall, you think. >> what do you think? >> i think he's i think it's stuff. i think he actually eventually does want to go somewhere with this but i think you're totally right tear i think the paul he recognizes

that this is a political loser and it's interesting because it depends on who we talked to you behind the scenes. donald trump will tell some people. yes, i agree. like he often says like when does a baby feel pain after that? wants to be reasonable on some of this stuff and he doesn't want to tie himself down, as tara said, to a certain amount of weeks. but at the same time, he also recognizes that a big part of his base that and a lot of his donors who right now he's meeting with at mar-a-lago behind the scenes this week, he's trying to get as much money for his campaign that he needs. also want him to be coming coming out and having some more firm language on this issue. so i don't know if i think it's hard to predict that this would happen anytime soon. like i said, because of the politics around it, but i'm not so sure as well that this isn't something that he would eventually come down and put something out on one end, you get like a donor, ralph reed gave him $62 million around pro-life if issues right. there's not the most recent. >> i don't know about the exact number, but yes, ralph, i actually spoke with ralph about this this week. he was saying to that the thing that's

interesting is a lot of republicans, even if they're super pro-life. and this is their issue that they're going to vote on when you when it comes down to it, donald trump is still the candidate that they were going to vote for because he is the moral pro-life candidate. and look what he did an office. and so that's where it's a messy political issue and it is interesting in the context of his remarks and when his remarks are being made, it doesn't really make sense to me when i talk to his team and other republicans why he's putting this out because there's so much there's so many landmines he could step on with so many voters, as you said, right? >> well, and he'll also say when he's asked about this, sometimes well, we also have to win elections. >> it exactly. >> it's about this. >> all right. thank you very much for joining us. i really appreciate it >> coming up next. what we will see instead of hunter biden at a house oversight hearing today, plus new revelations? since around the plea deal that was once offered to alec baldwin in his movie set shooting case >> this is the big game

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endorsement of president from president trump. i wear that with a badge of honor. >> all right triangle now a cnn political director, david chaldean. morning. good morning so let's dig into these ohio results, right? both what this means for control of the senate. we can talk big picture two in terms of some warning signs for trump kind of underneath these numbers. but what do you make of moreno winning here and how he stacks up? against sherrod brown. i mean, he didn't just win. right? i mean, one with 18 percentage point margin over matt dolan, the more establishment backed dewine portman back candidate here. so a huge significant victory, obviously for moreno, for trump, who went in last weekend. there's no doubt about that. and continuing to put the stamp on the fact that that old establishment, republican party is no more as the dominant force inside the republican party. we know that it's donald trump's party but to your point, casey what is consequential here is the matchup for november because this is a race that could end up determining control of the

united states senate. and sherrod brown has a major uphill climb in now, what was formerly a battleground state, but is now very red state of ohio. and he's running in a cycle unlike his previous three races as the state has gotten further away from democrats. so i know democrats got the candidate that they preferred, and i'm sure i'm wanted to get there, but that doesn't mean it's going to make it really any left that's tough of a battle for sherrod brown here. yeah. no. i mean, schumer kind of tried play at the last minute as well to help moreno. >> yeah, the super back the democratic super pac aligned with schumer went in there and advertise it as we've seen them try to play, tried to get the more maga candidate elected thinking it will be the weaker general election candidate. and maybe he will prove to be a weaker general election candidate. it's still a state that favors the republicans right now. yes, for sure. so david, you've got the exit poll data you came in with it. you were doing. this is always kind of what you're digging into every election night. what

did you see in that in that data that we should be paying attention to? >> well we see in here how the coalitions for each of these candidates sort themselves and get created. and i'm one of the things here is that we see again, casey, that roughly a third of this republican primary electorate in the senate believes correctly that joe biden legitimately won the 2020 election, but two thirds of the electric do not. 6,000% do not believe that wrongly of course, as you might imagine, that larger group, the 67% who say no, that biden didn't legitimately win overwhelmingly when for moreno, the trump backend and it did here, whereas the smaller slice of the pie, they were going for matt dolan in this race, right? >> can we can we put up to there obviously was a topline at primary match up. it's not competitive. donald trump, one. and obviously we know nikki haley is out of the race 40% of the 14% of the vote what's

going on there and can trump win a general election if that's the portion of the party that says, i mean, even when she's not actually running anymore, they're like, no, i don't want trump. >> well, if you can tell me now, today how much of that 14% goes to donald trump in the fall? i can answer your question about whether a general election but i would imagine some slice of it will, some significant slice of it likely will sort of put on the republican jersey and she probably if history is any guide that 14.3% she's out of the race for two weeks. there's no race. there's no advertising, there's nothing here what that represents to me as i look at that number and i say there is inside the republican party. remember there's a republican primary electorate, still a slice that e is trump resistant and they are quite committed to that trump resistance even by supporting a candidate that has suspended her campaign in this race. he, donald trump definitely needs to get some portion of these folks back in the fold. he needs a unified

republican party heading into this general election. he doesn't have a fully unified republican party yet. he has a he is no doubt the dominant force in the republican party and he's got the big swath of it, but he's he and his team are definitely going to need to spend these next seven months working to get some of these folks into their phone >> matt mauer is what do you see in those numbers is you're going to have to tell me, are you honestly are you going to support donald trump in the fall as the nominee and do you think he can win considering this this portion, this as david david puts it, the trump resistant are certainly can weigh and you see them pulling across all of these battleground states, ohio include that he's going to win. it's among the reasons why i think bernie moreno is going to win i mean, i look down, trump won ohio by eight points. i mean, he won't buy half 1 million. >> yeah, i'm not disputing. he's going to win ohio. i'm asking. >> this is a slice. this there is still a slice mean there's suburban republicans outside columbus and cleveland and

other places, right? it's probably some of what makes up those nikki haley numbers. there voters that are not dissimilar to voters in states like arizona and georgia and you name it, good oakland county, michigan, right? those are the places i'm talking about short terms of like can trump win a general election in those states if that many people are resisting him. >> and look, you're going to have ultimately this election is getting come down to this donald trump or joe biden get a larger percentage of the votes from their own party, who's going to hold their coalition together more than anyone else, especially when you've got rfk junior, potentially jill stein, potentially cornell west, maybe no labels. when you have all these other candidates on the ballot, which ones to be able to hold most of their typical party coalition of voters together, whichever one can wins. you saw on primary note just a couple of weeks ago, super tuesday, donald trump was talking more about the policies. it was a lot less personality if he can keep that up, he's going to win those 14% of, i mean, minus bloodbath >> well, that was a rally, right? right. well, let's there's a lot of discussion about the term bloodbath and how he's talking about the auto industry and the rest of the solute in the january 6 and

those are those are the things that are going to scare away some of these voters potentially that they have to be cognizant of if they keep it about immigration, they keep about inflation, they keep it about energy. donald trump is win this election. he's holding a lead in all these states right now over joe biden the holding, i will say holding the democratic coalition together is no easy feat. christie. >> if no easy feat, especially right now when joe biden is still losing, let's say, ten plus percent in certain states to uncommitted but he also has a long time between now and november in order to win back groups that are traditionally part of the democratic constituency, write and i, again, certainly think that you would rather be joe biden right now, then be donald trump for a lot of reasons, not including the 91 felonies. joebiden also has a something like five to one fundraising advantage right now, whereas all of donald trump's and the republican party's money is gonna go towards his lawsuits so there's a lot of reasons why i think that, you would rather still be the incumbent president, then be trump. >> the money point is a good

point and terror, i want to bring you on this because we were having a really interesting conversation earlier in the 05:00 a.m. our about just how important the money is. let let's let's show this was alina habba was on fox news or earlier in the week, and she was asked about, does donald trump have enough money to pay his bond? here's what she had claimed does donald trump's home have that kind of money sitting around i mean, he does. of course he has money. you know, he's a billionaire. we know that they know by looking at a statements of financial condition that this guy is worth a lot of money, billions and billions of billions of dollars so terror with all due respect, if that were true, i think he'd be able to pay half $1 and bond but money is really driving everything is my understanding, prison, you're reporting. that's going on with the team that trump team right now. >> well, donald trump is just feeling the cash crunch. he's an a very vulnerable position compared to joe biden, who is going to outraised him right

now. he's just he's about $50 behind the dnc and the joe biden campaign. so he's sort of looking at everyone who comes through mar-a-lago kind of currying favor, trying to get an a cabinet position and administration posting, even the vice presidency as someone who can possibly raise him cash or bringing a white one bell donor that he needs. and when i mean white whale donors, i mean people like sheldon adelson who gave them 100 million in 2016 because he's going to need like ten of these. we know that both candidates are going to have to spend about $1 billion each. and probably what will be the most expensive election in terms of advertising in our lifetime. so it's not just about like, i don't think it's as based on my reporting, what he's looking at, people's he's not really thinking about like it's, it's not a voter play per say. as much or a, or even i guess the demographic play in a lot of ways. it's really a donor play with yes, he looks at tim scott and says maybe he could bring over african-american voters. maybe you can bring over some swing voting white women in the suburbs more than that, he's

thinking to himself, can you get larry ellison to write me $100,000,000 check because that larry ellison wrote him at $30 check back in the senate. >> it's got one yeah. exactly. so he's trying to bring in big hitters like john paulson, a hedge fund billionaire, who wants to treasury secretary position paulson holds parties for him, fundraisers and palm beach and he can bring in all his friends so trump is playing footsie with all these people. and what can you dangle appointments. it's typically used to be ambassador ships which you brought up off air before, but it can be as anything is like the vice presidency. i mean, you have your own donor base. can you bring them along? >> i think >> personally, based on my reporting, trump has the evangelical base he's got his maga people. what do you really needs is money. and the other issue obviously is abortion. that's something that's on his monitor. >> love to point out, of course, that hillary clinton outraised them in 2016 and they still want to feed her the equation entirely different. he was running as a purely

insurgent candidate at the point new to the scene the money game i think matters more now probably than it did back in 2016. certainly matters to him. >> i mean, his financial security is on the line in a way that it wasn't at that point david. thanks. that was great. >> coming up next. what the fbi director says, he's doing to try to get justice for laken riley plus the uprising in haiti's spiraling out of control. florida congressman corey mils traveled there are multiple times to evacuate trapped americans. he joins me live next five. thing. >> rhonchi, >> by car, ivana. ivana dale, dr.. you happy one second grandma disguise going to buy my car. >> okay. do you need carbonic entering plague number no accidents, right? no generating offer. guard mama can pick it up tomorrow. >> that's an amazing offer. >> sell your car the easy way with carbonic. >> i won't let >> my moderate to severe

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unlawful information gathering there's kate's it's not all we care about >> all right. let's go now to this very important story this morning, the crisis in haiti is deepening gangs in port-au-prince, cutting off food, fuel, and water supplies across the city. the escalating violence threatening the safety of us citizens who are trapped on the island nearly 1,000 americans in haiti have filled out a crisis intake form to try to evacuate, joining me now is republican congressman corey mils of florida. >> he >> has personally with the help of a strong team, rescued 23 americans from haiti since the country was overtaken by gang violence, congressman, thank you very much for being here. i really appreciate it. the shadow. >> take us behind these missions that you're conducting who have you been able to get out? i know there's been some high-profile at names, but also just americans who are in trouble. how do you do this? >> well, in a lot of times, the members of congress, we all work together. i would like to

think of this as being such a part it isn't play, but all of this work together in our offices to establish kind of a crisis management plan and our office is headed this up, if you will. going back even to the israel debacle. and so we'll gathered names will try and find out who's all co-located so we can try and get in and look at consolidation points, look at makeshift hlc because because obviously the ports and the airports and think they chose these, can you translate, you see helicopter landing zone. so my apologies for my acura. >> no, it's okay >> big military use tend to throw those out a lot, but no. so with the gangs with jimmy ceviche with g9 taking over and making khan. all these gangs essentially taking the airports, the main ports the maritime, as well as for the main roads. you don't have a lot of avenues to be able to try and get these and achieve at a rescue and so we're actually looking at not just coordination of individuals to try to consolidate, but also making sure that we can get everything from risk analysis to where they're moving when the actual lockdowns occur how

we can move these individuals? and also how much time we're going to spend on the ground, because we are moving in a very, very small team, but our best asset is to have the concealment of darkness, but also the speediness of our extractions. >> yeah. i mean, how do you ensure that you're safe when you do this? >> well, you can't ensure 100% safety. it's a risk management play. i've spent seven years of my life and iraq three years and afghanistan, kosovo pack seven blown-up twice by roadside bombs know six and bag that. i don't think safety and security is my number one priority. sometimes either that or it's just my ignorance to go and things like this. but the bottom line is, is that this isn't a republican, democrat issue. americans are at risk, american lives are at stake. and yesterday or sunday, excuse me, i just pulled out 30 team more and one was a two month old baby and one was a three-year-old little girl. these are families that basically may not have had a future, had it not been for getting them out before, everything really does turn on its head like it is right now. >> and this, of course haiti, you mentioned what you did in israel at rescued people there and also afghanistan. i mean,

walk us through that. >> so in 20 2021, obviously we fall of kabul occurred quite rapidly and there was obviously a botch withdrawal and there was a failed military strategy. and this is my personal opinion and that resulted in thousands being left behind and one woman in her three children, particular who were born and raised amarillo, texas natives had been left behind. she had made multiple attempts to work with the state department multiple attempts to get to the main gate showing her blue past porto. she was told to do and was denied entry while the taliban and everyone who had the outer circle of security extorted them. and so after about 11 days and unfortunately, even my own government kind of thwarting our efforts. we end up conducting the very first successful overland rescue that had ever been done. and then we subsequently went on until much three dozen people fast forward to october 7, the horrendous and barbaric incident cost 1,200 and sent lives there in israel. i was on the ground by october 11th, conducting our first rescue of 32 people. the following day with 45, we end up getting 255 out and totality and then we ended up getting 96 just by grand evacuations across the jordan river. >> really remarkable you. one

of the people that you rescued in, in haiti was mitch album, who many americans may know from the books that he's written, what was it like to talk to him? what he had to say to you as this was unfolding? >> well, it's funny. i had never met and this is an interesting thing. no one i've ever rescued have i ever met or did i know personally, a lot of times the first time i've ever met these individually so this is when i actually get them out mitch was no different and in fact, even just understanding communication, security, operational security, we don't even give the people that we're pulling out a lot of heads up and he kinda alluded to that because they have local contacts, they have friends and they don't mean to actually do anything to various, but sometimes they texts there locals and say, hey, by the way, just won't let you guys know we leaving today. i'll be doing this. will ms you we think about you so we can even give them that opportunity. so i gave much about 31 minutes. so the time that we actually got into haitian airspace, you have 31 minutes. by the way, it won't be two drops. one drop only documents. you can take a laptop bag, drop luggage, and that rescue are able to get ten out successfully. >> so basically, you say to him

sorry, you got to leave everything you've got you've got your back. we originally told them to lifts seven and then five and then we come back last minute and again, looking at the scenario, looking at the prime minister who was just getting ready to resign looking at how that vacuum of power is going to be filled by jimmy shabby and the rest of them. we realized that there may not be a second lift and so going in and the concealment of darkness going into like three 03:00 in the morning, roughly spending a minute, seven seconds on the ground, hot loading these individuals into the aircraft while it's still running, and then being able to get out. that was our bass best asset and at that point landing and people's backyards and hello, so my hats off to the our great team like i've got a guy who's been with me for a long time for a special operations and our pilots who are absolutely phenomenal and have done these types of search and rescue missions in the past, i got to say i with you, clearly extraordinarily high-speed like congress really for you >> well, i'm hoping that like one of the things that i've always talked about was getting back to what it was to be a

statesman, a representative, getting back to wondering confidence to congress and to the government that we actually do care about the american people and i don't care what district you're from. i don't care what state you're from. i don't care what your political affiliation is, your gender, your race, your faith, what i care about is that true blue passport you're an american holder and that used to mean something. i want to bring that back to what the united states had, which is that to be an american was a thing of pride well, i think i certainly am still very proud to have a blue passport. and i hope that, you know, that is where the freest country in the world. and i think we're shining beacon for our constitutional republic. and i think that's something that we should continue to be very proud of >> congressman, i'm so grateful for your time. i want to expand this conversation out to our panel. oh, but i'll start with you because there was a hearing on the hill yesterday. we showed a salty minute from it, but we didn't talk about the substance around afghanistan and you mentioned afghanistan policy. we heard from general mark milley and another general who were involved overseeing the military during that pullout. i know you're on the committee that dealt with that. what did

you learn yesterday, if anything >> and >> what lessons are there in terms of making sure some of those mistakes never happen again? >> well, look, one of the things that both general mckenzie, the former centcom commander, and chairman milli, the former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, had made clear is that their advisory was not what actually took place. and in fact, back that president biden had gone against their advisory their advisory was to leave 2,500 in place to be able to maintain bagher mirror base, which would not have resulted in the release of the bargain prisons, which is where the suicide bomber actually had originated from that cost lives with 13 brave heroes. but i think that what we also looked at as putting political optics above military strategy is not exactly the best idea. looking at et, who can actually, from a policy perspective, maintain the command and control on the ground when it comes to conducting a neo. but i think that's really it's a noncombatants evacuation oper. so this is where we would basically draw down. i mean, think the fall of saigon, thank the helicopters can be on the rooftop of afghanistan, et cetera these are the things where there's a bit of a shift

on who maintains can span of control. is it the ambassador? is that the state department is that the department of defense? and so really drawing a new policy thing which is what kind of chairman milli had brought up, which a great point on who actually leads that command and control structure, i think is a real key issue because i do put a lot of fault on the state department this and their failures because they acted way too slowly and even sharing from and milli and mckinsey had said that they should have conducted this neo weeks and weeks ago. but the ambassador there had refused, even though there's 23 diplomats who wrote a dissent cable saying, if you do what you're about to do, you're going to get people killed, you're going to leave americans behind so they were well warned both at the secretary of defense and secretary of state level. >> christy, let me bring you into this this is, i often think about the pullout from afghanistan and we were showing some of the pictures of the chaos of that as a real turning point for president biden, right? he had come from in riding high. we were fighting back, trying to beat back the covid pandemic he had defeated donald trump but ever since that public sentiment really

turned against him in the wake of that, you could see it in the polling. and honestly the biggest demon they're battling as they tried to win reelection is the perception president biden is weak and i'm curious how you think about how this plays into the bigger picture and what the white house is doing to try to fight back against that especially as the president. now has multiple foreign policy crises on his plate >> yeah it's interesting because i think that for the most part most americans don't think all that much about foreign policy. and this has certainly been a presidency in which there have been thrilled, different moments that have really forced americans think about it for us afghanistan, then obviously, for a long time we'll ukraine. and now certainly with israel and gaza. and you've also seen that hardened along partisan lines for example that's something obviously that's happening right now with the gaza crisis where there had always been, i don't want to take this too far course, but daylight between support for israel and support for netanyahu

>> but >> but now it's finally something in which democrats are actually able to say that out loud. republicans are standing strong with netanyahu. you're seeing the partisanship develop that hadn't been there before. well, >> so terrorist speaking of netanyahu, republicans on the hill are going to hear today from benjamin netanyahu in what is basically a political statement, especially considering the chuck schumer is out there basically saying israel should hold a new elections based on the policy how do you see that cutting i mean, he was actually supposed to speak with them last week before senator schumer made that statement at their retreat. but i do think it's starting to fall along partisan lines, support for israel versus liberal democratic opposition to israel. >> well, i mean, i think we should say there are some people who support israel's right to defend itself while criticizing israeli policy. but yeah, definitely >> i just think that this has

become an issue that i'm sure donald trump will try to exploit. but the white house pretty much remains the same. joe biden has told netanyahu that he's not going to he doesn't support interfering the elections, but they have they're trying to put pressure on him. i don't know exactly how it's going to play in the election though there's still a number of months ahead, six months ahead. >> yeah, very challenging conversation quick last word. >> i'll just say it's at the state department that ran for office, right? photo is often don't rank for a policy is the topic but when you have afghanistan, when you have what's happening in israel, ukraine, and now haiti, add that to the crisis. it gives a feeling of the world is on fire and there's uncertainty. and that plays into the election that's right. >> congressman. thank you very much for your time. i really appreciate you being here. >> all right. i'll leave you with this. rumors are flying about who might be the next bond, james bond? >> james bond. my name is ban

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