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that's 800 is 79594061 colombia. the final flight or mere sunday, april 7 at nine on cnn >> it's monday, march 25th, right now on cnn this morning donald trump heading the court for a hush money hearing. while new york's top prosecutor gets ready to seize some of his product i used to israel onboard with the us plan to free dozens of hostages in gaza. the ball now in the hands of hamas and former rnc chairwoman ronna mcdaniel finds a new job and suddenly and the point of view on january 6 all right. >> 06:00 a.m. here in washington alive looked at capitol hill, was guys have not on easter vacation for a couple of weeks. good morning, everyone. i'm kasie hunt. it is wonderful to have you with us on this monday morning. today, donald trump facing an existential threat to his personal and political

fortunes, the former president preparing to spend the day in a new york city courtroom, where a judge could set a start date for his hush money trial. that trials already been delayed until at least mid april. the former president is trying to get the case delete even longer or thrown out entirely well, we've got that going on the new york attorney general, letitia james could be beginning the process of seizing trump's properties and other assets if the former president fails to come up with a 464 million bond. our panel is here with us this morning. cnn politics reporter stephen collinson, republican strategist. sure. michael singleton meghan hayes, former special assistant to president biden welcome. all of you. it's wonderful to have you on this monday. it is a monumental one. steven, kick us off for folks who aren't familiar, you are kind of our big picture painter here at cnn in that you spend all of your time pulling together all of the threads that are sort of tying up our public life at the moment and

painting for us a picture of what's going on. i mean help us explain and understand why this week is so significant for the former president nguyen. in many cases, we've just gotten used to hearing all of the latest drawing hamas, et cetera. >> that's right. we're becoming almost numb to these occasions when the former president's fate is playing out in courtrooms as separate courtrooms at the same time for anyone else, this would be extraordinary. it's possibly future president and this is the new normal, normality which we have with president trump. this case in terms of the bond that he has to come up with today, worth nearly half $1 to stop new york state going after his assets to make them selves. good on the ill-gotten gains that were exposed in this fraud trial is especially interesting, i think because if you go to one of trump's rallies, if you hear him speak, it's never learned long before he talks about his beautiful buildings, how richie is, this is something that's absolutely core, not just his

self-identity, but also to his appeal to his supporters, even now, if you talk to trump supporters, one of the first things they bring up is this guy's a great businessman. there's a lot of evidence that might question that assumption, but it's very the germane to what a lot of people feel about trump. and what trump feels about himself yeah. >> sure. my goal, i mean weigh in here. i mean this this also is going to combine of course with the hush money case. we're going to see that play out as well on the stage as he, that's the courtroom. he's going to be in today. and that potentially is the only trial that we may see him actually endure before election day, which is one that i think most attorneys and most politically so probably argue it's not as substantial as january 6 or georgia are the documents case out of florida. it's complicated. i think a lot of people have sort of moved on. i think the occasions for that, the average voter would probably say doesn't necessarily concern them in terms of what does it mean for the future of democracy, such

as the other cases but what that said, i want to touch on this issue of the former president and his inability to accumulate the necessary funds for the bond. i spent a lot of time this week in talking to some conservative voters and activists and some of the southern states are very, very close to the president's reelection campaign one of the things that i consistently heard over and over again from each of those individuals, some of those folks are actually tasked with wood running states for the foreign president. was that why can't they beat him at the ballot box? why are the allies of president by doing everything they possibly can do the legal system to persecute the former president instead of debating him on the issues that's the way the messaging is within the maga world. and i think it's very important for those of us in the political landscape to understand how our average conservative voters viewing these things. regardless of what evidence may potentially it'd be there. >> well, i mean, i look, i will say the primary process i think expose that for us, right. i mean, if you listened to ron desantis talk about what it was

like to run against donald trump. he'll say, well, if he hadn't been indicted, i might have had a better right. but that doesn't meghan mean that this is something that's great if you're trying to win over independents in places like arizona and georgia, and michigan and wisconsin let's to go. back, to what you said. president biden did become a battle about ballot box in 2020 so it's the future of democracy may not be at stake with his optics are at stake here. and i think that people are looking at him like you said, as a business person, and they're like, why don't you have the money if you're this great businessman? and i think it does play into what his policies are and what he stands for. >> yeah. i mean, i will say should have had. the stack, the sound of trump back in 2015, steven saying, i have all of this money, right? and his defenders mean his lawyer, alina habba, in this case has been saying, well, he's a billionaire, right? he has the money but not being able to put up 464 million like okay, like that seems to be very exposing >> that's true the trump team would argue that the reason for this is that all of his wealth is tied up in real estate and golf courses in skyscrapers.

and the doesn't necessarily have this huge fund of cash on hand. the problem with that is even if say new york state managed to get 200 million out of trump for this issue. what happens to the rest of his business? how can he run his business? there's a court-appointed monitor that's in charge now of the trump organization, which means he can't just move money around from business to business so he's in a real bind. if you were trying to sell off some of his properties his lawyers say that this is unfair because it would be a fire sale prices. so i think it's gonna be very interested to see what the, the new york authorities do. do they immediately go after him if he can't come up with this bond or they start seizing properties. and how would that play? with it play into your contention that a lot of people he this is unfair and politically motivated, or does this become a moment when it causes so much chaos that those independent voters, suburban voters, suddenly decide look, we can't do with us anymore. we can't have this back in the

white house, does it make people as the biden campaign, things? does it make them does it remind them of what it was like when trump was president i just wondered to the point you just made in terms of independent swing voters, when you add all of trump's legal issues to whatever their >> everyday struggles may be. >> where >> does that register on the list of importance of one through five is it number one, isn't number two is a number three. look at all the data, not just polls, but focus group data that does appear to be the case. >> and a conviction is >> that is why you see the president and his attorneys continuing to fight for trying to prolong this, as long as they can. and i think if they are able to do that successfully you may see some independent voters say, well, there's not a conviction. >> all, all >> of these other things are impacted my life. these are the things that i believe donald trump is better at handling. the economy, immigration middle east policy where you currently see him leading president biden on all of those things. i don't think it's going to change unless there was a conviction, pick classroom. yeah. i just don't think that people are paying attention and i think people are paying

attention to the chaos. and that's, that's concerning what the independence those nikki haley voters and the president needs to president biden aides to be according, but i agree with you that they're not paying it tension right now, who they're voting for in november, i think a conviction is what >> yeah. well oftentimes when i speak to your former colleagues in and around the white house, they'll say like people still don't seem to believe that donald trump is going to be the nominee and good. >> yeah. all right. >> our panel sticks around coming up here, a carnival cruise ship catching on fire off the coast of the bahamas plus a firing warning for donald trump from the embattled fulton county da and why liz cheney is ripping former rnc congresswoman ronna mcdaniel if you work in spaceflight this is the worst thing that can happen >> space shuttle columbia, final flight or mere sunday, april 7 at nine on cnn. >> i won't let my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis symptoms define me emerge as, you with trump via most people saw 90% clear skin eye for

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real time with bill maher, saturday at eight on cnn >> welcome back. trump tower is mine. that's the message donald trump had in this fundraising email he sent out yesterday. the day before new york attorney general letitia james could begin the process of seizing trump's assets if he doesn't come up with nearly half 1 bond in his civil fraud case cnn's jake tapper spoke with republican congressman chip roy on sunday and asked about it. watch this targeting of the former president, whether you're talking about impeachment, which was done, whether you're talking about all of these cases, there's multiple cases all of that is having an inverse effect, right? the average hardworking americans out there saying, what are you doing? all of this politics that's going on. president trump is actually gaining popularity because they're just focus using, i'm trying to go after him >> all right. cnn political reporter, alayna treene joins our panel at she covers trump forest lane in the morning. good morning >> so we touched a little bit

on this earlier, but i really wanted to kind of zero in on trump tower, in particular, because there are questions mean look for the attorney general's start seizing property. it's a lot more complicated then just seizing cash, for example, it's probably going to make sense for her to go after bank accounts and other things first. but the former president is using his tower. it's the thing that everybody knows about him, that it's almost synonymous. what is your reporting telling you about how the president actually is feeling about this? brett >> he's very worried about this and it's funny because he does have the two different dueling legal battles today, both in new york and he is very worried about the criminal case, but this is the one that the idea that he could have some of these properties seized unless there's some eleventh-hour in probable deal that his lawyers are able to figure out. and that's very concerning, tim. and it's very personal to him and we've said this throughout his civil trial that it strikes the core of who he is. he's a businessman first, and then became a

politician and part of it is one, he's been able to avoid a lot of these issues. for several years. he's been caught up and tangled legal issues for his entire life, but he's always been able to avoid them until now and again, a lot of this is personal, but it's also the public perception of it. donald trump does not want to be seen. i mean, he likes to tout that he is a wealthy businessman. he likes to people to think that he has all this money as we've seen him be sharing on truth, social on social media lately. and this is striking exactly who he is. and that's really the concern behind the scenes. and even though he's showing up in that hearing in new york in the hush money case, which he's also concerned about because it's a criminal. he is very worried about any sort of criminal conviction. this is the thing that is really on his mind today. i know as he is in new york what do we know. about what would two streams is actually going to do? >> i think it's interesting that the president, the former president is stressing this, as you say, the trump tower angle from what we know, it appears that that's not going to be

her first target. she's filed court papers to perhaps target first trump's estate in westchester county so that i think she's probably smart enough not to go for the citadel at the start because that would create a massive political backlash. >> perhaps >> the biggest possible political backlash apart from maybe going after trump's resort down in florida, mar-a-lago so i think what they're trying to do is create this impression that as chip roy was saying, look americans are interested in this. they're going after trump. the one thing you have to say though, is that all of these cases that trump is facing they've gone through the legal system, the criminal ones, through grand juries. yeah, it's not just some prosecutor that's just going after him. they have to go through the system and that is what trump is facing. and that's the accountability that eats sometimes doesn't get in politics. >> alina, what is his team expecting james to do? i mean, do they have any idea where she

might go first? i mean what what do they know or what do they think about that part of it will see that it's totally right that the trump tower thing is definitely more for fundraising. i don't think they are expecting that trump tower or will actually be the property, at least. the first i mean, i don't think they're expecting from power at all will be ec is it's definitely the westchester county seven springs development that they're looking at >> they're not totally sure how it's >> going to work out, but they are, again, the reason they've been scrambling over the past week is because they recognize this is a very serious and real threat and likely to happen if he doesn't cobble the money together. and as of now, he doesn't have it. and so they are expecting her to be i mean, they know that letitia james is very firm with him. she's very aggressive. they recognize that her throat that's are not hollow and that's a lot of the reason why you've seen them really scrambling behind the scenes over the past week, trying to sort this out. there's definitely concerned not just with donald trump himself, but with his team behind the scenes

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clear. >> the violence that happened on january 6 is unacceptable. it doesn't represent our country. it's certainly does not represent my party we should not be attacking the capitol. we should not be having violence. i do not think people who committed violent acts on january 6 should be freed. >> did joe biden win the election fair and square? he won. he is the legitimate fair and square he 1, its certified. it's done that was former rnc chair ronna mcdaniel. she broke their with donald trump on the 2020 election and on his plan, apparently to free january 6 prisoners after years of deflecting about the 2021 capitol attack mcdaniel left the rnc earlier this month. she was directly involved in phone calls, pressuring michigan in officials to not certify the vote for joe biden in 2020 here's what she told nbc about why she did not speak up earlier

>> ronna, why not speak out earlier? why just speak out about that now when you're the rnc chair, you kind of take one for the whole team right now i get to be a little bit more myself, right? this is what i believe i don't think violent should be in our political discourse republican or democrat. and i disagree with that so that's quite the reversal. let's take a look at what liz cheney had to say about this. she of course led the january 6 committee investigating what happened that day. cheney says on x, ronna facilitated trump's correct, corrupt fake elector plot and his effort to pressure michigan officials not to certify the legitimate election outcome. she spread his lies and called one-six, quote, legitimate political discourse, end quote, that is not taking one for the team. it is enabling criminality and depravity meghan, i have to say this is quite the attempt to rewrite history on the part of ronna mcdaniel yes. i think money is a powerful driver and

i'm sure nbc is paying her a lot of money to say what she's now going to say because that's what makes sense. also, i think she was sort of set aside by trump and this is her way to be able to strike back in a way that makes her more relevant again sure. michael, i want to show you what she had to say to my colleague chris wallace, ronna mcdaniel, did previously about who won the 2020 election. watch that >> wait a minute. are you saying as the chair of the republican party that you still have questions as to whether or not joe biden was duly elected president. >> joe biden's the president. no, i didn't know whether it the president i don't think that i think he won the election. >> i think there were lots of problems with 2020 >> when he won the election but ultimately he won the election. but there were lots of problems with the 2020 1,100. >> and that's fair. but i don't think he won it fair. i don't i'm not going to say that so look, i just we talk a lot all kinds of politicians come in for criticism around

flip-flopping, changing their positions on something >> oh yeah. >> what's going on here is an active attempt to convince americans that the election was not was not free and fair and the impact of that is real at the time when she makes those remarks. so now she's turning around and trying to say, well, i didn't actually mean it, but like the damage is done, it's catastrophic i mean, there are dozens of people who have been charged, arrested. many of them are sitting in prison. some who have now been released. we actually had 1 on network last week and older elderly lady, she said, you know, i believe this for x, y, and z reasons, but i made a mistake. it was detrimental to my family, detrimental to my community. >> i mean, i think this is why a >> lot of people on social media were outraged by what msnbc did. people were asking themselves, wait a minute, this person has zero credibility and i don't think it's anything about being a conservative. i was at msnbc. i'm a conservative. i worked in the trump administration. i don't

think people were said we don't want to hear from conservatives i think we don't want to hear from people we're going to blatantly lie. and that's, that's a very serious problem. and i think if your network, you've got a question, you want to be careful what your credibility they will you bring on people who are being dishonest with the american people? >> i want to, i want to focus on ronna and her particular at this particular brand of like, say one thing san other thing while again, steven, i mean, when we think about the big picture of what was happening here, what has happened it's covering the trump administration was sometimes watching are feeling like republicans in this town were frogs and boiling water, right? it was like first it was something smaller like i it's not a big deal. then it was something bigger than it was something bigger than all of a sudden it was mark milley marching across lafayette square, clearing protesters and republicans on having anything to say. and then it was january 6. and it's things like what we saw from ronna mcdaniel and enable that to happen. >> right? what was happening when she made her original comments was what was

happening, the republican party as a whole, people were saying things to appease former president trump because that was the route to power and to staying in power. now, ronna mcdaniel is out of that. she's trying to reinvent herself in some way. we've seen other people that were in the trump administration who repudiated trump before january 6, who didn't buy into the stolen electron nonsense as being able to rehabilitate themselves and more mainstream arena the problem is when you come out after saying what she's said there's going to be a backlash. she's moving away from it now. but you have to say that the trend since trump has shown that he is going to be strong in this election, that he's gonna be the presumptive nominee is in the opposite direction. you have multiple republican officeholders tried to downplay what happened on january the 6th. the whole election stolen narrative, because trump is now the republican nominee. and

again, here's the route to being empower and staying in power even mitch mcconnell, a great opponent of donald trump gave that rather grudging endorsement when he became the presumptive nominee. >> it is i will say the more common order of things, whereas for people to actually break with trump, republicans break with trump january 6, then kinda crawl back to him as opposed to what we're seeing here. >> i >> think the bigger issue that i >> have with this is she can have her private opinions all she wants, she can go back and forth and flip-flop as much as she want to now has a platform to do that. i'm just like she had a platform before to save these horrible things and the date like you were saying, it's catastrophic damage that's being done. but now that she's given another platform to go back and it's like what more damage is she going to do? and two months is she going to have a different view because trump's after her again, are saying things publicly about her. it's like she doesn't have the credibility to be on a legitimate news organization. and i think that's the bigger issue here >> let me share my goal to that to that point she has her defenders, frank lungs put this up. ronna mcdaniel has an insider's perspective. we

would all benefit from instead of trying to silence or we should be listening intently for all that we can learn. i listened to people that i disagree with all the time. it's not an endorsement, it's an opportunity to learn. do you buy that >> i don't disagree with the fact that people should be permitted some level of redemption. i think that is true but the idea that one should not be taken to task because of their previous statements that were again, detrimental to the state of the democracy. i do not agree with that at all, and i am not sitting here somewhere when who has anti-trump or never trump her. i think there are some policies that people certainly believed than i do understand why millions of americans, 74 million voted for the former president. but on this particular issue, i don't think there's a gray area here. i don't think there's a right or wrong. there's only a right here. and if someone was on the wrong side, they should be criticized. but given the opportunity to read deemed themselves over time and she's going to have to prove to the american people that these new statements does new position is something that she holds to be true. >> of course this takes place.

steven and i really need to. i've been wanting to kind of stack this is something in our show that we can kind of play

>> so he can kind of operationalize it. and this is part of that, but it is quite a chilling moment when you're in one of those rallies to see this unfold. and there's a thing he does at the end, a refrain of the n, which is almost a dirge really extremist rhetoric with this foreboding music. and you see the rally turned from almost a comedy show it, as it is at some cases, into something a lot darker. and that plays into this idea of this second term. he would devoted to

retribution. >> well, and they're literally printing are printed signs, say too big to rig, right? he is making the argument to his supporters that his margins need to be so big that no one can claim that it was rigged. just like to point out, democrats are not the ones currently foreshadowing that the election maybe rigged. and here we are you know, months and months away still that's the kind of the kind of rhetor we're going to be dealing with for the rest of the year. all right. still had here waiting on hamas. well, they agree to a new hostage proposal already approved by israel. >> and shohei speaks the >> mlb superstar about to address the press for the first time since his interpreter was fired in a gambling scandal. >> freeze dryness, breakage new dove 10.1 serum hair mask with peptide complex fortifies hair bonds at a molecular level, helps we're various ten signs of damage in one minute, keep living we'll keep repairing a widely filter. >> it's well-designed efficient. >> i appreciate that. we filters technology keeps debris

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schedule despite the investigation into her romantic relationship with her lead prosecutor that's not something that i find embarrassing in any way. and i know that i have not done anything that's illegal. there are efforts to slow down is trained, but the train is coming train is coming will assess trump's attempt to remove her hasn't worked and her team has continued to work on the case the first fatal mountain lion attacking california in two decades claimed the life of one man and left his brother injured. the two were hunting and el dorado county this weekend when they were attacked the 90 pound male cougar has been euthanized and new jersey first lady tammy murphy dropping her bid to replace embattled senator bob menendez. >> that leaves >> democratic congressman andy kim as the favorite in the state's june 4 democratic primary all right. >> let's go overseas now, israel is waiting on a response from hamas after agreeing to a us proposal on a

prisoner-hostage exchange, the deal would release around 700 palestinian prisoners, 100 of whom who are serving life sentences for killing israeli nationals in exchange, 40 israeli hostages would be released by hamas in gaza. cnn's paula hancock says, live in doha, qatar with more on this good morning to you. >> paul, what is the >> likelihood of hamas accepting this? >> okay, so it's interesting because just about ten days ago we had a counter proposal from hamas and they had said that they wanted to see between 701,000 palestinian prisoners released. so this is within that realm that they gave him that proposal. now the technical team these are still here in doha with the mediators. so none of the decision-makers here, what we're hearing from cnn analyst barak ravid is that this proposal will then have to go to gaza to potentially the tunnels in gaza to the man in charge, yahya sinwar, and he

will make a decision he is quoting israeli government sources as saying it could be between 1.3 days before they get a response. it's interesting to note though that all the sources, all the leaks at business point are coming from the israeli side. clearly feeling domestic and international pressure to push this process forward. so what we could see in the coming days is some kind i never it's worth a reality check though this is just one part of one phase of this overall deal. so potentially no massive breakthrough is imminent. casey >> all right. paul hancock for us, live in doha, paula, thank you very much for that our panels back with us and let's bring in kim dozer. she is cnn's global affairs analyst. good morning, kim. wonderful to have you join us. >> so this all comes as israel's defense chief is set to visit washington this week. this is something that the biden administration had wanted to have happened weeks ago. ahead of ramadan. obviously, it did not what is holding this

up? what do you make of paul as reporting? what are you looking for in the coming days? >> it's all up to hamas at this point whether to say yes to this, they could make another demand to stretch this out because the longer hamas stretches this process out, the more time they buy, the more they hopefully forestall some sort of israeli operation in gaza but meanwhile, having the israelis come here, especially the defense minister, who was at odds with bibi netanyahu he's a guy that us officials are going to trust to give the real answer, not the political answer. why he feels the defense military necessity to invade rafah and there they're really going to be able to test the plan to move people out of the way and possibly also enlist us aid and getting un and other aid agencies to cooperate with moving people, which is something the israelis have had a hard time within the past. yeah. so let's look at

the vice president, kamala harris. i was talking about this question of rafah in an interview over the weekend, watch what she had to say >> we're looking at about 1 people in rafah who are there because they were told to go there. most of them so we've been very clear that it would be a mistake to move into rafah with any type of military operation, a mistake. but would there be consequences if he does move four? forward >> well, we're going to take it one step at a time, but we've been very clear in terms of our perspective on whether or not that can happen. >> are you ruling out that there would be consequences from the united states >> i? am ruling out nothing >> meghan hayes. i mean, what do you see it in her saying that she's not ruling out consequences? what could that mean? i don't think they ministration, taking anything off the table. there's a huge humanitarian crisis going on that they need to address as well. and i think that they want israel to take it seriously. i think this is why they're having these meetings. but i think she's she said hey, we're not we're not taking anything off the table and we are serious here. this is we not we're not playing

around with you in essence. we're going to take every measure that we're going to have consequences for every action that you take that's not appropriate here. >> tough, it's a tough political spot for the administration for sure. kim, i also want to dig in a little bit to what we're seeing in terms of the fallout from the awful terror attack in moscow over the weekend there was an a us warning around intelligence related to something like this happening. i want to show you what senator tim kaine i had to say and then we'll talk about what vladimir putin is trying to claim is going on much the us did warn russia and vladimir putin gave a speech on tuesday, discounting the warning, saying we were trying to metal and create confusion. we also warned iran a couple of months ago about a potential attack by isis-k. there. if you want to know the difference between democracies and authoritarians, we will we'll tell nations if we're worried about their civilians. russia, iran would never tell us if they had news that there was gonna be a

terrorist attack in the united states >> so kim putin is now trying to say that there is ukrainian involvement or links to what went on. what do we actually know and what is putin going forward with that? >> well, look, what needs to fall guy, because his security services had been tracking and isis threat, had publicly announced disrupting various isis plots in russia. and the caucasus. and a couple of years ago, isis-khorasan, the group in afghanistan had attacked russians. russia's embassy there so there was this long-standing threat from isis operatives >> putin needs >> to convince his people that he didn't leave them unprotected while he was pursuing a war of choice and aggression next door and ukraine, that's why i think you're seeing reports that the us and britain have dismissed as not credible, that at these suspects, these four tajik suspects were captured on their way to ukraine, on their way to a border area that's mined and

full of patrols and deaf. sure. i would choose to get out of solute in my life briefly at steven, the journal headline is attack in russia deals a blow to putin, strongman image that what's going on. >> yeah, this is humiliating for putin. his set himself up as the ultimate guarantor of russian security portraying himself as a bulwark against all these different forces that he argues are trying to >> as here and take a little bit of hard turn. i'm just going to acknowledge that. >> but i did want to talk about

this. this was in the new york times on sunday, the latest front in the republican culture war hitting our streets literally, the fight against electric vehicles kicked into high year when the biden administration rolled out new tailpipe rules to try it and boost the sale of evs and hybrids. donald trump has been out front in this fight claiming that the move to evs will ruin the american auto industry. and there are republicans that have started echoing the former president. i will congresswoman ashli hinson. she posted this that the biden ministration is quote, forcing americans to buy electric vehicles that is not the case, although there is some changes to how the production of vehicles west virginia, senator shelley moore capito had this to say in terms of the ev mandate that came through or the regulation that came through today, i >> would suggest to all of you, if you've ever been skiing and snow shoe or canadian valley or a timberline? don't drive your

electric car over there. you may not get there. >> it's >> steep, it's cold. >> but if you >> do get stuck there, there's some really nice coal miners nearby and they'll help you push your car up the hill so you can recharge >> okay >> sure. michael single thing as any republican at the table? i am i'm a car person, right? like i love cars. so it's part of why i'm so interested in this >> but it has >> become a culture war issue. i mean, do you think democrats are going too far in a way that is going to have ramifications for you. >> i don't think so. i mean >> mr. elam musk, mr. tesla, mr.. car clearly appears just to be more on the republican side than on a democratic side. so i would caution my republican friends there because some of those individuals may need some of mr. musk's money when it comes to reelection, would that said though the average american person aren't going out and purchase and $90,000 teslas, it's just not the reality >> i think many of the >> major auto giants looked to move when that direction and they realize most people just

don't want electric cars, right? >> well, i mean, that's actually here. let me electric car revolution is losing its charge. >> there we go. and it's for this reason, i mean, meghan this this is the part that i actually think politically is really the most interesting because the thing about evs& look, i don't own an ev. i would buy one but i live on the coasts. right? one of the coasts and charging networks out in california are frankly even way more advanced than they are here on the east coast but when you live in a city, are driving short distances, this is something that might make sense in your life the urban rural divide is increasingly one that's absolutely critical in our politics. is the biden administration, like, how are they thinking about that? because there are an awful lot of people who, you know, if, if these companies are forced to produce more evs and hybrids to meet the demands of this new regulation, there is a world where it could push up prices for combustion engine cars that some americans are still going to need i think you're absolutely right, but i do think that they're trying to invest money in these charging stations and in the network to make it more efficient and make it more doable for just an average person. i do agree with

you that the cost of evs are really high and it's not average. people cannot afford to have an ev as well as with having a charge are installed in their house and being able to map out where they're going every day to make sure that they're are hitting their charging station. so there's a lot of work that still needs to be done. i think the administration is taking steps to have tax incentives and some other things to help people along to buy evs. but it's not perfect by any stretch. >> it was steven. where do you think the country actually is on electric vehicles? i'm just thinking they're ready for it. i'm surprised that this issue has come up most strongly before in the election because traveling around the early states this year, it was one of the things that people brought up unprompted along with, for example, the presence, age, i think people have very skeptical in say the middle of iowa for example, where they don't see any time soon, there's gonna be a charging station >> they ever done it in iowa? >> i'm a straight road. and they just don't see it. the issue here though, that trump is saying that biden is going to give the us auto individually to china. the way

the world is going. if the united states doesn't lead in this china's going to take over anyway, and it's going to be the dominant force. so it's a juxtaposition between what what happened, what's happening now transactionally that trump follows and a longer-term perspective. >> while speaking of dominant force says, i will leave you with this the empire striking back at the empire state building star wars, taking over the iconic new york city landmark to launch a host of new toys and products for their march to may 4th campaigns you what they did there just look at these projections on the building and of course and i can skywalker. >> so you've >> future darth vader was on hand >> i have brought peace freedom, justice and security to my new empire.

>> y'all new empire >> hayden christiansen, the actor you saw there, flip the switch at the top of the empire state building turning that building cif read it's really kick off the star wars takeover of the empire state, building. star wars has been a very important part of my life. it was a real pleasure to get to be here and see this amazing show that. >> so thank you >> we did cars, we did star wars. it's all my favourite thing. this morning guys. thank you so much for being with me today. i really appreciate your time and i want to thank all of you as well. all for joining us on this monday morning. you'll come back tomorrow. >> don't go anywhere. cnn news central starts right now