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that job to mexico >> and >> cnn it's thursday march 28, right now on cnn this morning, donald trump's election interference case back on track >> and georgia, what the former president's lawyers plan to ask the judge today >> plus what >> investigators have found so far on that data recorder of the ship that hit a baltimore bridge and two former president's getting behind the sitting president to try to defeat donald trump all right. 05:00 a.m. here in washington a live look at atlanta where all this courtroom dramas can start unfolding again today. good morning, everyone. i'm kasie hunt and it's wonderful to have you with us. court is back in session in donald trump's case

in georgia, da fani willis is still spearheading the prosecution. the judge deciding not to disqualify her for her romantic relationship with the special counsel i'm not embarrassed by anything. i've done i guess my greatest crime is i had a relationship with a man. i don't feel like we've been flowed down at all. i do think that there are efforts to slow down is trained, but the train is coming today's motion hearing, trump's lawyers will object to the criminal solicitation counts that he is facing claiming that they violate the former >> president's first amendment rights. when this trial does eventually begin you will be able to watch it. judge scott mcafee announcing he will allow the proceedings to be broadcast live on the court's youtube channel let's talk about all this with cnn national security and justice reporters zachary cohen columnist josh rogan, the washington post. cnn political commentator karen finneas with us and mac orman, who is former senior advisor for tim scott's presidential campaign. good morning to all of you. thank you guys for being here. zach

>> let's walk >> through your latest reporting on what we're going to see here. and i got to tell you, i think the big picture for question for a lot of people is just whether or not we're going to see this trial start before the election. >> that really is the biggest question and fani willis doesn't even know the answer to that at this point. and judge mccabe has not set a trial date, and my reporting is that fani willis might re-up the request. she's already asked for a trial to start on august 5th. that obviously we'd put it before the 2024 election. but mcafee has not answered her request. he has not said one way or the other whether or not he will scheduled something, put it on the calendars if bonnie willis is pushing him and might push them again publicly to put something on the calendar. yeah >> matt gorman how do you see this playing out for the former president, obviously, fani willis she says. her her mistake was having this romantic relationship. she has defended herself very aggressively. but on the other hand there wasn't opening given to the trump team and they tried to take full advantage of it. >> absolutely. look, you are prosecuting the former president aid states and you need to be holier than that. i

are cleaner than possible. >> and she's >> extraordinarily bad judgment through this entire process, and then she was she was caught on that. and it has given an opening because again, the audience here for trump isn't necessarily the jury. it's in a lot of ways, the american voter. and so helping to muddy the water and give a possible to this trial, which i think if you asked a lot of republicans eight months ago, this was one of the ones who were more worried about less. so say the alvin bragg won starting up a little next month this, and maybe documents case we're always ones they didn't really feel that great about. now, we go into a little bit a little more confidence if thinning a little stronger >> yeah. i would say two things. number one, i think what fani willis didn't understand, it's not just that she's going up against trump. she's going up against the whole right-wing machine and having up against that, that is mighty. and they will go through your trash that whenever there is defined we'll find it. i mean, everything

that is knowable is knowable and they will find it and it will be front page news. i hope she gets that now that she has to be beyond reproach going forward because of the seriousness of this case, how important it is to the country that being said, i think if she can get the case started, one of the things we're starting to see in polling is that people are interested to know, is he convicted? what's and what information is going to come out if they don't have that answer by the time where at election day, i think the president, the former president thinks that's good for him. i don't think it necessarily is interesting josh rogan aspect of this potentially being televised. >> how does that cut >> well on my foreign policy beat what i find is that people around the world are following this. >> every step >> kind of out of amazement, some out of fear and loathing and concern for what would happened to american foreign policy if trump is re-elected. so you have two sets of countries you've got the ally those who are just mortified

that they could be living in a world where the president of the united states is either convicted or facing a trial or in the business of looking out for his personal interests over the interests of the country. and we saw this recently and they tiktok debate when it seemed that trump flip-flopped on tiktok because at the same exact time that he got some money from a donor because he needs to pay his legal bills. so that's one thing. the other thing is that it really damages america's ability to project to the values of sort of a good governance, democracy around the world. because all of the dictator's look at this spectacle and they say, oh, look, democracy is messy. our system is much better. we've got an authoritarian system we don't, we don't have to deal with all this stuff. so i think basically putting this on tv is just taking the sort of disaster that is american politics and broadcasting into the world and real-time can't really be a good thing i mean, it's good in terms of transparency, but in terms of americans reputation, it's really a tragedy yeah >> exactly what in terms of the fact this will be watched all over the world, right? if it acts especially like for

different reasons, i think it's clear fani willis has maybe learned that lesson coming into the last two months, she's very aware that this is something that's being tried in the public eye as much as it is in the courtroom and you're seeing her talk reporters for maybe if it gives her advisors heartburn, she's out there front of cameras. she's trying to shift that conversation back to trump, back to the criminal charges against him, rather than her personal life. so you're singer do that? >> yeah. yeah. >> go ahead again. >> look, i think also i guess have shades of oj simpson trial, not necessarily a particular way. we're going to have a lot of small moments. it's small characters suddenly become household names they become things. we all talk about around this table and around a lot of other tables across the country and look, let's face it, if this thing happens before the election, it's hard to break through if you're joe biden or anyone else trying for oxygen, good or bad. that's a huge challenge. yeah, let's just >> be i do want to be clear, so we're not misunderstood. you are comparing those to that particular instance. simpson instance, in so much as they were both or potentially are both tvd for the only

comparison >> exactly what absolutely >> yeah. >> two things. one, i think it will be important for people to be able to see it because that way when trump comes out and says whatever he's going to say, what we can say. well, let's go to the tape see what actually happened and i actually think with someone like donald trump, we need that, that being said, fani willis, the thing has already made herself a character in this saga. she's got to bring it down and stay focused on doing the job of prosecuting this case. i wish you would stop doing interviews and really focus on this prosecute the case, just and be very serious in the courtroom know flare, nothing fancy, just the facts, ma'am. >> they're interesting perspective >> our >> panel is going to stick around, zach. thank you very much for bringing us your reporting. we've got six hours of data that were retrieved from the cargo ship that collided with baltimore's key bridge. we're gonna get a live report with the latest the investigation ahead. plus a fundraiser with firepower to

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was formed per senator joe lieberman at the democratic convention back in 2000, he was accepting the nomination to become al gore's running mate. liebermann passed away wednesday at the age of 82, suffering from complications from a fall he had a distinguished career here in washington. he was the first jewish vice-presidential nominee of a major party. and he was something of a maverick. he paid his own path. he was a democrat with an independent streak. he had to break from his party in 2006 and wasn't afraid to break from the pack generally tributes have been pouring in, including from his old running mate a gor, gorgeous as lieberman was a truly gifted leader who's affable personality and strong will made them a forced to be reckoned with. that's why it came as no surprise to any of us who knew him when he starts singing his favorite song, frank sinatra's my way, doing things. joe's way, men always putting his country and the values of equality and fairness first, our panel is back with us and josh rogan, you actually

spent time with liebermann in what turned out to be some of his final months. what was he like? >> well, that's right. well, i knew joe lieberman for the better part of two decades as a reporter traveled with him around the world. he was part of what they want is called the three musketeers with senator mccain and centered on wednesday the graham after setting mccain passed away, a center of kelly as three and we goes to right the three amigos, three muscular different versions >> and >> on the international stage, he was a towering figure who for decades stood for human rights and democracy and the forceful assertion of american values and interests pride and i was with him at the munich security conference. so we're at 82 years old. he was in the mix in the meetings doing everything about the senators were doing and more. so just a month ago, he was being his full international self on a more domestic level. i remember him as being someone who constantly look for the center and looked to make the center more powerful and we just talked about his time as

president gore's vice presidential candidate. a lot of people don't remember that in 2000 at&t was very nearly john mccain's vice presidential candidate. in fact, john mccain wanted to choose early roman was talked out of it and talk to into choosing sarah palin. and if you just think about that that moment in the history of politics and history of the republican party sort of set the problem. can party on a specific trajectory that sort of ends where we are now with trump. and that was sort of the last moment where you could really envision a bipartisan ticket might have had a chance of winning and joe lieberman was uniquely qualified for that because he was so respected and both parties and had the gravitas and the where with all to handle that situation, but not only was he in that sense, rejected by the republican party, who was later rejected by his own party, which is why he went to independent and left the senate and started to labels. and all of this other stuff that we know about his later career. but in short, he will be remembered where it is. one of the few senators who

made a huge difference with decades of service. and also for being a good human being >> it is sort of a punctuation mark on a period of time in our political history that as you point out has honestly, we have evolved very much away, if not completely broken with the politics that joe lieberman represented. the former president barack obama wrote a condolence statement. he opened it by saying joe lieberman and i didn't always see eye to eye, but he did say as an extraordinary for your in public service, obama has come in for some criticism for starting it out that way. it almost does kind of underscore that we are in this world right now that our condolence statements now they they didn't see eye to eye specifically on the iraq war, which is of course, the defining feature of barack obama's presidency candidacy back in 2008, if we remember back that far but karen, i mean, even this just demonstrates that we are past lieberman's era >> agreed. i think our politics

have become more polarized. i think frankly, the pandemic actually further polarize us. unfortunately, around vaccinations and what have you. >> but >> joe lieberman, me man, remember the three amigos? isn't it was kinda cute and funny. and at the same time, i think it was important for the country. it was important to see that kind of cooperation which has now become an attack line, not actually a positive feature. and look, there's a lot of things i disagree with joe lieberman on, but he was someone who i respected. >> did he believed me when he spoke at the convention in 2008 republican convention? that was a big deal for democrats. we were furious about it but there were others in the party who said, look, this is him doing what he does and he and john mccain were very dear friends and he believed in his candidacy. so lindsey graham did write a statement, the bad news is that john mccain is giving him an earful about how he screwed things up, are rest

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to spit in your face. bill clinton wants to utterly humiliate you i'll wake all or cricket. joe biden's laughing his way to the bank. >> matt. >> he's doing something pretty specific here >> the language >> is very harsh but what he is attempting to do is stoke that sort of anti elite sentiment that many of his supporters feel is it effective? is it the right thing to do? what do you see in that? >> i think first of all, he needs a low dollar fundraising, right? he wants us talking about these emails. he wants me that breaks through. so that's something number >> one, i think, especially as we talked about where the fundraising gap is between democrats and republicans, he needs the money number one, number two, you're right. i mean, this is something he is harnessed, i think for a long time. it is the anti elite sentiment. it is especially when you're getting all three presidents together especially not just bringing the baggage

of say, joe biden, but the obama loci, essentially an oftentimes, ran against in 2016 and then the memory of the clinton years, i think it was an effective way for him to lump them all together. and again, the whole point of this gets some low dollar fundraising going off it. >> karen, the spit in your face? >> yeah. i mean, come on. disgusting, but it's again these kinds of emails are always worse. i mean, it's at the same time boyd, is that reek of desperation? that's what that's how i read it because he knows, i mean, $25 million in one of that he would love to have that kind of fundraising and the truth is, joe biden doesn't have a half $1 debt hanging over his head, or many, many legal bills, right >> to very popular former president that's who can be brought in an a very popular couple of former first ladies, one of whom remind, will remind people just how horrible they felt when she lost and he won by the way. so we've i think it's also an important moment of unity for democrats. it's

shows are fundraising prowess, which i don't think democrats get enough credit for. there's a lot of focus on polls. we don't focus on the fact that were blowing the doors off on fundraising and a lot of it is actually small dollar, which i think is really important. >> so again >> desperation on the part of the former president, >> karen, let me ask you about obama specifically in this kind of relationship between joe biden, who was, of course obama's vice president, and then was a bit miffed, i guess. you might say when obama really threw his support behind hillary clinton in a strong way back, i'm in 2016, what's the relationship like with these two men and what does it mean to you? i mean, obama has also been doing other events for president biden. he's kind of stepping out onto the stage more aggressively. >> yeah. look like all long-term friendships, it's complicated >> let's put it that way. when you're former >> presidency united states, perhaps it's even extra >> that's like, i mean, >> who knows the kind of things they talk about. but look, i think there's a huge admiration and an understanding

of what's at stake in the country. and in some ways, i think it's harder when and you're out when you've been the president and you're watching what's going on and you're like, put me in coach. let me let me get in there and help and it's obviously president obama is going to be a huge asset on the campaign trail >> i agree with you. >> that's sine probably >> poked i was thinking myself, i hope that's not in any clips that the presidency because he is the president >> but >> no, i think tonight i'll be really funny. it's always no, it's a bit of nostalgia when you get to see the three of them together, there's a bit of a rivalry there. i say this taking my republican had off if you read his book, biden's booked, promise me, dad, things in 2016, 2017, that rivalries so clear in there but look, you're going to see i think a lot of obama, because the one thing that republicans are really feel an opportunity at african-american voters, specifically, black menn. so to the extent that obama can consolidate the african american vote towards joe

biden. and now i think peel away from trump's going to be key all right, let's, let's change gears here because i also want to talk about something that we've all been living with this year, this month marks before your anniversary of the covid-19 pandemic. and while we have moved on, of course, from lockdowns, mask mandates, virtual school, the memory of the pandemic really still haunts american life, and it may fluence. what voters do in november as they face the same choice this time that they faced in 2020 as a recent new york times analysis, nodes public confidence in institutions has slumped since 2020 and just hasn't recovered. fears of political violence and even civil war are at record highs. national happiness rankings are at record lows o's. and the view of the economy remains extraordinarily bleak josh rogan, let me just get you to weigh in big picture. this was a worldwide pandemic. we're not just seeing it in the united states, we are seeing across the world, but it is really impacting our current politics

of course, i think for a lot of understandable reasons, people want to memory hold the pandemic. they want to just pretend it never happened. of course, the trump campaign would love to pretend that never happened because that forces people to put themselves back in that situation. and mid 2020, where all of our lives were affected dramatically and people around us were dying, people were losing their careers, people were losing their businesses and i think if we're being honest about that period, we have to say that the trump administration handled it terribly and that they documented at the time, president trump ignored the early warnings. he minimize the pandemic for a while. he told us to put bleach into our skin to fix it on national tv and already know biden campaign. yeah. yeah. and this is it's not to say that democrats in certain states then also make big mistakes is just to say that if we, if we had a true accounting of that, it would be a damning is a damning account of how this president handled the crisis. and it's relevant because a crisis like that will inevitably happen again sooner or later. so i think there's an effort for the biden an interest for the button team to

the one thing that trump did well, which is the vaccines, you won't even take credit for it. so i think there's an interest in an effort in the biden campaign to remind people of this. but it's a double-edged sword because it makes people feel bad and it's, it's not the kind of message you really want to chat, but at the same time there was a piece also in the atlantic written by two clinical psychiatrists who talked about the fact that america has also experienced ariane saying on grief. and we've never had a national moment where we talked about the fact that over 1 million americans died, people lost their children and their friends, and their careers and their lives. and the point that they make. we have a lot of historical data as well as clinical data that shows unprocessed grief is part of why it's a trauma response. the trauma responses, we don't want to think about the end of trump and then we had january 6, we just want to move on. but what they explain is that it's still sitting in us, which is why we feel bad about everything. i think you'll one of the things that the president currently talks about is the greatest comeback story never told. i want him to go on

this campaign trail and tell that story and tell the story of how we the american people got through these tough times and maybe remind us we did together actually is meant as much as we fill divided. it was first responders was friends looking out for friends. >> on the one hand, i don't disagree with you on that, karen, but i will say matt, one of the overriding features of this particular crisis, while we had to try to get through it together, it's like fundamental defining reality was isolation and loneliness it was, it was very different for different people, right thing. but this way, you live in california, louk in florida, you experienced code very differently if you're somebody who is an office worker and can do most things by zoom or work from home. you experience very differently than if you're a frontline worker or if you're a waiter or waitress in a restaurant, i think that was one of the other things is everyone experiences so differently and there isn't one defining features. we went through 911, right? unless you were directly impacted, you had

it from a little bit of a distance. so i think that was a defining feature two, and it's hard because you're right, if you're a frontline worker and you saw death every day and you came home and how to deal with it. or if you're a waiter or waitress and you had a really essentially, yes he lost a parent or a child or something, right. or somebody who just look at your friends are you were you were able to not really be as affected by other people? it's a very different experience. there's no unifying theme and a ladder respects for covid. yeah. >> i would just say that internationally it turned the whole world into a very sort of selfish mentality and everybody sort of looked out for themselves this fed into a politics of fear, populism, nationalism in europe, in asia, especially here in america. and that has in turn back and a lot of the retraction of the idea of an international community that was building towards some sort of consensus and cooperation on democracy, freedom, and human rights irrevocably changed. >> yeah, and >> i think in a way the trump

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republican operative alleges schlapp groped him during a trip to georgia in 2022 the white house marking one year since the detention of wall street journal reporter evan gershkovich this administration will continue working every day to secure his release. we will continue to push back against russia's attempts to use them americans, as bargaining chips >> russia accuses gershkovich are trying to obtain state secrets. josh, what does it tell you that we are nearing the one-year anniversary mark of this. >> first of all, it's a tragedy for evan. his family is colleagues. it's a mark of how far russia has fallen in terms of being a normal country. where international journalists can just go and do their jobs. that's not possible in russia in 2024. and it's also a sign that the us-russia relationship is at such a low point that the really only business that we have is trading russian prisoners, people who have

committed crimes that we have in our customary for american hostages that's the action in a sense that provides a ray of hope for evan and his family. because even though we're engaged in all of these problems with russia these swaps do occur. on the other hand, it doesn't look like evan is getting out at time soon. they just extended his pretrial detention for the fifth time another three months and the pattern in russia is that they prefer to convict the person before they bargain them away because they think that gives them more leverage. so he's gonna be in there for awhile, but in the end, i think there's a good chance that there will be a deal and that he welcome home and i think that everybody who has interests in this is working very hard for that outcome. we're thinking of >> thinking of his family. ivan deserves to be home. so does paul whelan, by the way >> all right. the national transportation safety board is leading the investigation into the deadly baltimore bridge collapse. the agency is recovered six hours of data from the container ship that collided with the key bridge

and while it could take up to two years to finalize the investigation, official say there are no signs of safety issues with the bridge's structure >> this bridge >> was in satisfactory condition. the >> bridge like this one, completed in the 1970s, was simply not made to withstand a direct impact on a critical support pier from a vessel that weighs about 200 million pounds >> all right. let's bring in the congressman, seth moulton of massachusetts. he sits on the house transportation and infrastructure committee. congressman, good morning. thanks for being here. >> good morning. >> so let's start with the baltimore bridge collapse. here i honestly want to ask you about the chances that congress has actually gonna be able to help the community of baltimore here because of the way that relationships in especially the house of representatives have just fallen to a new low to the point that there are questions about whether or not congress is going to be able to do anything about this. there did

not use to be what do you expect? >> no i mean that's right. so when the i35 bridge collapsed up in minnesota and not 2007, not that long ago. i think within two days, congress appropriated the funds to fix it. but this is a very different time congress right now, it's very partisan, but i will say that at the end of the day, democrats and republicans have come together to pass the appropriations let's build it. it took a long time. we just pass the appropriations bills. we should have passed last year, but we did do it in a bipartisan way. so i'm cautiously optimistic that we'll be able to do something because obviously we understand the urgency of the moment >> yeah. >> let me ask you, speaking of divisions in congress, the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu told a delegation of members of congress who were visiting there yesterday that victory in gaza is a few weeks away. he says what do you take away from those comments? and

i'm also curious that republicans have floated the possibility of netanyahu coming to address the us congress. what kind of message with that send >> well, first of all, i don't understand how prevalent prime minister netanyahu defines victory. and this is a point that i've made since the very beginning of the conflict with an op-ed on cnn.com what i said, he needs to have a political end game. he's to have a political end game that's believable and supported by both sides to this conflict. or at the end of the day, we're just going to be right back to where we were when this began, an ongoing war with continued violence and that's not going to serve piece for anyone in the middle east. so i don't understand how we can possibly say that there are few weeks away from victory when he hasn't even describe what that will look like. i mean, i've been advocating for a two-state solution, for example, the prime minister says, that's not going to happen under his watch so i don't think he understands how this works. i don't think he understands counterinsurgency. i don't

think he's heated any of the lessons that america painfully learned through 20 years in iraq and afghanistan about fighting terrorists in this kind of environment. and so it's not going to end in two weeks. that's for sure. >> congressman, what do you see as the al-qahera speaking of lessons learned that from that era, which you obviously i played a part the devastation that we have seen in gaza and the way that, that population is going to be impacted by this for generations to come. if the goal is to eliminate hamas is the prime minister netanyahu accomplishing that? or is he causing another generation of people who are going to want to violently oppose? israel >> you're asking exactly the right question because like most people, i fully support the elimination of hamas.

there's no way that the palestinians or israelis will ever live in peace as long as a terrorist organization with the destruction of israel written into its charter for is in charge of the palestinian people. so everyone who wants peace, whether you're on the palestinian side or the israeli side, or somewhere in-between, we should want the elimination of hamas. but i agree that prime minister netanyahu strategy is not getting us there one of the key lessons that we learned in iraq and afghanistan, again, after making a lot of mistakes along the way is that with every innocent civilian that you kill, it serves as a recruiting tool for the other side. and by that measure, then yahoo has clearly recruited a lot more terrorists than he's eliminated. and if you actually get into the details of the math here, how many they stay, they have actually killed you. it really raises this question, and i think that that's why again, this is not going to end in a few weeks. this is a much longer-term game with an ultimate political solution at

the end of the day that israel has yet to define congressman on another foreign policy question, aid to ukraine has obviously been hung up in the house of representatives, the senate did pass a bill. now the house speaker, mike johnson is facing another potential round of the motion. marjorie taylor greene has filed a motion to vacate, which is what happened in the case. of kevin mccarthy. the question of course, will democrats be willing to save mike johnson's job if we can get ukraine aid out the door, would you be willing to help mike johnson retain the speakers gavel if he pledged and did put aid to ukraine on the floor of the house i mean, look, i'm not just going to give mike johnson a favor, but i think there is the potential for a deal here. remember that when the republicans kicked out kevin mccarthy, we went for three weeks without a speaker. congress was frozen the first time in american history. that that has happened. that would

never happen under our democratic watch it's certainly not going to happen on our democratic speaker. and so we will be on board with trying to reduce the chaos that republicans are bringing to congress. and frankly, all across the country headlined by people like marjorie taylor greene. so well, i think that speaker johnson is actually willing to work with us. then we might be able to make a deal. remember, democrats reached out multiple times at multiple levels, even myself, just to colleagues in the house to try to strike a deal with kevin mccarthy and he absolutely refused. he absolutely refused to even talk to democrats about finding such a deal. i think johnson was is probably wiser than that but make no mistake. i don't think johnson has a great speaker. we've had the least productive congress since the great depression it's just a question of trying to avert the republican chaos. and that's why democrats are always willing to talk all right, congressman seth moulton. thank you very much for joining us

today. i really appreciate your time. i hope it come back >> thanks, casey >> all right. now, this democrats just flipped a state house seat in. you've asked it, alabama, the candidate, marilyn lands campaign up protecting reproductive rights. our panel is back with bus. karen, it is worth noting that she had previously lost a race in this district back in 2022. >> what >> happened around that time to have switched to what happened now, what are the lessons here? >> reproductive freedom is on the ballot in 2024, and it is a very effective issue for democrats. >> and we're not i'm just talking obviously about obviously access to contraception. i'm i'm sorry, access to abortion, which 8.10 americans agree with. and again, i think these red state victory is continued to remind us when talking about kansas ohio kentucky, that how potent this issue is. >> but >> we're also now talking about ivf, right? and we're talking about what this means for people who want to start or

grow a family, but also we're going to see attacks on the access to contraception and that's an issue where the polling shows it favors democrats like plus tenants in congressional races. there is the right to contraception act, which has not yet come to the floor. so again, this this conversation even earlier this week, last thing i would say is this conversation about mifepristone that we're having regardless of how the justices rule. >> it has >> reminded americans how furious they are about the idea that i right could be taken away. and it's a medicine which most of us know, women take, not just for abortion, but some women take if they've had a miscarriage, many, many women, yes. >> for miscarriage care, yes. yes. or in the event of a baby who has died in the womb. i mean, the us, i mean again, i think it goes back to this idea freedom of not just reproductive freedom, but the freedom to control your body.

and you're going to see democrats reclaiming the mantle of talking about our rights and freedoms >> we've noticed that in the messaging me, matt, like haustra, if you're a republican, how stressed would you be about this little piece of evidence? >> we've seen this kind of ever since 2022 or so. i mean, i i keep coming back to the fact that they overturned roe boy. oh, no, i keep going back to look. trump pretty consistently. has a two to four point lead. most head-to-head polls on most issues he's ahead of biden on the issue of abortion and others. this is one we're democrats have that polling advantage and i worry is going to be like 2022 where there's a polling lead but democrats coming out of the woodwork and change things for sure >> all right. i will leave all of you with this. >> it's opening >> day for major league baseball >> okay. i'm going to call that an absolute life highlight. that was made throwing out the opening pitch

for my beloved baltimore orioles. they just happened to crush the new york yankees who were visiting that de, in that game. and now my o's are kicking off this season with a brand new owner, david rubenstein the order of any baseball team can only do so much. everything depends on the fans. so i hope you will come to games, support the team and do everything he can to bring us to the next chapter or the baltimore orioles and hopefully that will lead us to another world series championship in the very near future. >> hell? yes. >> dated. >> we do have some >> hopeful news that that is the game out of baltimore. of course, our city saw unthinkable tragedy. this week, my family has deep ties. baltimore has been really wonderful to us. like david said let's when another world series championship panel. thank you guys very much for being here. hope you're gonna get out, do some baseball this weekend. and thanks to all of you for joining us. i'm kasie hunt. don't go anywhere on cnn news central starts right now