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29, right now on cnn this morning, battle for the benjamin's president biden raising a boatload of cash with donald trump hoping to catch up next? this week, then baltimore, the salvage operation begins how officials plan to clear tons of twisted steel and debris from the taps go river plus wall street journal reporter, we are marking one year for evan gershkovich behind bars in russia all right. >> 06:00 a.m. here in washington, here's a live look at new york city, where joe biden, two other former presidents were last night. good morning, everyone. i'm kasie hunt. it's wonderful to have you with us. i'm gonna get to our top political story in just a second. >> but i >> actually want to start with this. this is the wall street journal this morning. as you can see, they have left an enormous portion of their front page blank for the journalist

evan gershkovich, who as of today, has been in russian prison, has been detained by the russians for 300 and 65 days. it's also an occasion to remember paul whelan, who has been detained by the russians as well. four in gershkovich's case from what we can tell, the only crime he has committed is committing real, actual journalism. in russia. so we're going to talk about him throughout the show. so this morning but as someone who has committed myself to this career and believes deeply in the importance of a free press, not just here, but around the world i wanted to make sure that we did that right here at the beginning. as we start our friday and headed to this weekend. let's get now to our political story, the de, which is a tale of two campaigns yesterday in new york president biden and president obama and president clinton, all onstage at the iconic radio city music hall. raking in $25 million from people who had paid up to half 1 million to sit in the

audience, listen to jokes from late-night host stephen call their watch lizzo perform the most generous donors even had a chance to pose with the three presidents and get that photo snapped by famous celebrity photographer annie leibovitz still the president was repeatedly interrupted by protesters inside the hall as protesters clashed with police outside >> they were >> of course, demanding that the biden administration stopped funding israel in its war with hamas meanwhile, though, a few miles, but still a world away on long island, donald trump was attending the wake for slain nypd officer jonathan diller and he spoke to reporters after the events area beautiful and say we have to stop it. we have to stop it. we have to get back to law and order. we have to do a lot of things differently because this is not working. this is happening too often trump is

hoping to hold his own glitzy fundraiser in his private club in mar-a-lago next week with the goal of raising $33 which would be >> an all-time record and be ahead of that 25 million democrats brought in last night or political panels here democratic congressman don buyer of virginia is with us cnn senior political analyst mark preston, republican strategy sure. michael singleton. and democratic strategist, meghan haze, all at the table. this morning press an actual and start with you >> the >> well, let me just show you how the trump campaign and also fox news is picking up on this in terms of the nature of the events that we saw play out in new york, and the difference between them. this is greg good fell bus nine >> i look at the fundraiser and it reminds me of live aid. or you instead of trying to save as starving nation, they're trying to save as starving presidency. i don't think you've ever seen a more perfect example of the sparkling obscenely aloof elites

>> in your life, is he right >> when it comes to the split-screen moment? >> he >> is right in the sense that it doesn't necessarily look good. but the reality is, is what they're not telling you is that you biden has been to the funerals in the past? >> that's in >> fact, back in 2014, he had gone to an officer's slang who was gunned down just sitting inside his patrol car. the fact of the matter is this fund rise fundraise was put on yes. people in middle america look at new york and they look at la and they say, look at the glitz, look at these limousine liberals telling us what to do. but that's the reality. is in at the same time that the trump campaign comes out and says, look, he's going to raise $25 hours later, the command said, we're going to raise $33 million. so you can have it both ways. but in this political world, unfortunately, you can >> yeah. well, i mean, i think it is, it is important congressman to underscore the fundraiser the former president plans to hold its gonna be at a glitzy private club. that he

owns. he is clearly in the same in hd, the way he lives, his life is way different than many of the american. now that said, many, most americans, that said, for some reason, voters do seem to give dahman trump some credit for being are they identify with him somehow as he stokes what i mean, it's essentially a culture war that they're stoking here, right? well, is it worth i mean well >> so much to the positive? so last ten years has just been about cultural war stuff. we identify based on where we live and what kind of cars we buy ev or not and things like that. >> we're just before i came on there >> rather than on the politics itself, it's interesting right now >> for example, there are there are no gun safety republicans in the house. and every democrat is pro gun safety. they differentiate on second amendment, same with abortion, that absolutely black and white

on either side of the political divide. but my thought on the $25 billion last night is that's going to go to what we're joe biden already has an advantage and actually doing the grasp fruits building out, door-knocking teams and getting field offices everywhere and campaigning everywhere. whereas donald trump is giving himself golf awards at mar-a-lago and hearing in court, spending the money on legal fees. >> sure. michael as the republican at the table. and what do you see here when you watch the pictures from and we can put up on the screen kind of the faces of the at, the stars that were there, queen latifah lizzo, mindy kaling, ben platt, lea michele stephen colbert moderated the event. this. when you hear republicans talk about it, they'll say, well, these are, these elite people. they're out for themselves, are not out for you. is that true or not? >> i mean, i think generally speaking, democrats have always performed well culturally. they've always had the best celebrity he's the best actors and actresses. and i have to be honest on the republican side, i've worked in a lot of campaigns and sometimes if that candidates say, well, why can't we get some dollar events? >> because there is a

recognition >> that there is a connection to people because they look up to some of these individuals with that said, however, when you think about the faculty of the slain officer is someone with alleles my own family americans want to make sure that police officers are protected when they're on the job. it's a very, very dangerous job. >> and i think it's an >> interesting dichotomy here. they have the former president going to the funeral of that slain officer telling law enforcement officers, i stand with you. we want to make sure that not only you're paid well, that you're protected on the job, and you show so case the current president hanging out with the stars, having a good time. it's a glitzy moment it is a very obvious difference >> meghan, let's talk about the event itself because it is pretty remarkable to see these three former president's on stage, bill clinton, barack obama, at joe biden. they were though repeatedly interrupted by protesters. i actually so i thought the responses were interesting. we don't have video of this because it was limited. the video was the campaign limited at press video. >> but both >> biden and obama responded to

them and basically saying that they should be allowed to have a moment. president biden said that's all right. he told them told people well, that were escorting them out, let them go. there's people, there's too many innocent victims >> and then >> obama responded and he said, no, no, listen, you can't just talk and not listen. that's what the other side does it possible for us to understand that it is possible to have moral clarity and deeply held beliefs, but still recognize the world's complicated and it's hard to solve these problems. what do you make of how these two men handle this last night? >> yeah, i think the president biden has been extremely well handling protesters. he's protested quite frequently on this issue. it's something that's going to plague the campaign. i think moving forward, but i do think that the president is trying to do everything he can. he understand that there's a real humanitarian crisis, but also understand where that israel's there need to act in the way. and obviously he's put some complicated conversations with netanyahu on that. but i do think that it's unfortunate this is going to continue to happen, but i think that this is the way that they are to handle it. and with dignity and respect, i mean, that's the way

the president moves forward, and that's obviously the way former president obama does too. all right, our panel is going to come back, congressman. thank you very much for spending some time with us this morning. i really appreciate it coming up next here, an underwater discovery at the site of the baltimore bridge collapse, plus julie the answer is country album dropped overnight >> or we can say is er if you work in spaceflight, this is the worst thing that can happen >> space shuttle columbia, final flight or mirror sunday, april 7 at nine on cnn >> my cry >> thank you

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tuesday's collapse of the key bridge as the people of baltimore recover from this tragedy my beloved orioles paid tribute to those lost before opening day at camden yards >> before we sing our national anthem, written by baltimore's francis scott key let us join together in a moment of silence for those who lost their lives. and the tragedy at the francis scott key bridge early tuesday morning thank you >> all right. joining me is baltimore county executive johnny olszewski. mr. zachary, thanks very much for being here. i appreciate it. >> yeah. good morning, kasie. what a moving moment yesterday in baltimore. >> yeah absolutely. remarkable. and my dad actually grew up in harford county, which is where my my orioles fandom comes from originally at really remarkable to see everyone at what is i think is the best ball park in baseball. but as the community comes together, and what more

can you tell us? about how the recovery efforts are gonna go this morning >> yeah. we know this is going to be an elaborate operation. we've got four priorities here. first and foremost is continuing to support the families. i had a chance to meet with them two days ago and supporting them in this difficult time, obviously, opening up ship channels to the port of baltimore helping those who've been impacted all the dock workers, all those who are impacted downstream by the closures. and of course, rebuilding the bridge. i can say it's gonna be a long road to go. this is a very difficult involve conversation. with the governor, having daily briefings, us army corps of engineers is in there doing the work we want to make sure we're taking our time to do this safely. we can't yet give a timeline and we know it's going to be a long period of time because there's so much involved. we're basically talking about a ship the size of the eiffel tower with a bridge on top of it debris and 50 foot water currents wind our

lines nearby. this is a very difficult involves situation, but i know that we have some of the world's best experts on it right now >> so we've talked a lot about the overall timeline for rebuilding the bridge people to judge the transportation secretary put that around two years. obviously, to have the port of baltimore closed for that long would be absolutely devastating. what are you hoping for? here's a timeline, not for the bridge rebuild, but for getting the port open again >> yeah. so one it's always say one of our >> priorities is getting that shipping channel open. and we think that can be done a lot faster. and we have to be calling for bold action, not just for the bridge rebuild, we have to be calling about bold action and all hands on deck to clear that shipping channel. and doing the salvage work of pulling the bridge out. so i don't know the timelines. i'm not an expert, but we have to find a way to make sure that that is done as quickly as possible so that we can have terminals open again in the port of baltimore as well as supporting the associated areas. so in baltimore county,

we actually have a trade point atlantic which is another large maritime industrial site. we're using that both for bridge clearance. but also potentially to help take some of that load that would otherwise we go into the port of baltimore, one of the largest roll-on roll-off for vehicles, but trade point has some of that ability there. we're looking at all hands on deck to figure out how how we can keep things moving >> briefly, congress is looking at an emergency request to get some money out the door to help you. these things have more recent in more recent years gotten held up by politics sometimes. can you just help us understand the nationwide impact of the closure of this shipping channel? >> yeah, we're talking about billions of dollars of commerce at the port of baltimore automobiles, health goods. and this is affecting far beyond just the baltimore area. this is affecting the world's economy so i'll say, i've heard from colleagues all over the country, county executives and mayors who are small large,

roar rural, urban democrat, republican but for the grace of god, this could be any of us. and i hope this doesn't become something that's partisan and logged up. i'd like to see congress move quickly. i appreciate that the governor put in and the president has already accepted some of the emergency relief to say this is eligible for that. i just let's hope that our colleagues and friends in congress see this as a national tragedy that it is come together and help support the baltimore area in this time >> all right. >> baltimore county executive johnny olszewski, i think they call you johnny. you. thank you very much for your time. i appreciate right >> see you soon >> all right ahead here. donald trump escalating his attacks against the daughter of the judge, overseeing one of his trials. and we'll show you the moment the good samaritan, samaritans rushed to help a driver whose car had flipped over sanity needs to save space >> you have a show were right and left talk to each other cnn

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on tuesday, gershkovich was ordered held for another three months. he still has not been formally tried. cnn's matthew chance is live for us in st. petersburg, russia at matthew. good morning to you. evan has been in and out of court throughout the year. what happens? from here >> well, he has indeed casey and he's made his last appearance a couple of days ago when journalists weren't allowed into the court to see him. instead, the court released its own footage. it lasted six seconds long of evan gershkovich, standing in that glass cage, which we've seen him in so many times as his pretrial detention as it's called here, was extended for another three months it means that he's going to stay behind bars as he waits for his trial. the espionage. but to start, what's that process begins? it could be a very lengthy, lengthy process. we don't even know what evidence the russians have got against him, if any, they haven't presented anything. they don't have to in shall security cases like

this, but behind the scenes, kasie, what we do know is that there aren't negotiations or at least contacts underway between the russians and the united states to try and organize a release or a prisoner swap. just a couple of days ago the spokesperson for vladimir putin, the russian president's dmitry peskov is his name he said he confirmed that those talks are ongoing, but neither side night the russians or the us are prepared to discuss the detail of what is actually being, being talked about. and so we're sort of in the dark really about where we stand when it comes to a possible prisoner swap. we do know that the was a deal in the offing or at least being discussed that would have seen the release of american detainees like evan gershkovich and some others as well, along with alexey navalny, the opposition leader here in russia, in exchange for various individuals held in the united states and elsewhere. but as we

know, alexey navalny died in his arctic penal colony last month and that deal never came to anything. and so at the moment, we're back in a holding pattern, evan gershkovich, a year into his detention, still sitting in the form of a prison in the russian capital >> all right. matthew chance for us live in st. petersburg. matthew. thank you very much for that. the panels back and we noted this earlier, but this again, the wall street journal front page this morning it says his story should be here and it should evan gershkovich detained for 365 days. they write a urine russian prison a year, a stolen story is still enjoys stolen memories. the crime journalism, meghan haze, this is something the president biden has worked very hard on that when he talks, he talks about detained americans and how he feels about them. it's clearly very, very much a personal thing. matthew talked a little bit about the efforts here >> what >> can we be doing? what should we be doing to try to get evan home

>> look, i think that the president this is something that's very personal. the president he thinks about this every day. he's in close contact with folks i think that the more you publicly talk about the negotiations, it kind of puts them a little bit in harm and how they're doing it. i have a lot of faith and jake sullivan and his team and the security team that they are doing everything they can to bring folks home it's a really tough issue and it's really unfortunate and it's something that should never be happening or, or were you want it's family, it's going through mark. i mean, it is it's it's now very risky for journalists to cover russia and it honestly underscores the low point of relations between the west and russia right now? >> no, it's certainly does. >> look, this isn't a >> normal for tat like we can get him back pretty easily. the fact is is that we are like the largest superpowers the world right now. that is opposing russia taking over ukraine vladimir putin is only going to give evan up or anyone else at this point unless he feels like

he's gonna get something in return and he's not going feel any pressure back home on this to your point though, the dangerousness of the of us and now we get to sit here at the table and talk about it. but all our colleagues are overseas and not only the dodging bombs and bullets and what have you now? now they have to worry about getting picked up by an authoritarian regime and that's exactly what we've seen happen. yeah. all right. >> so now this just days after the judge and donald trump's hush money case issued a gag order, borrowing from him from attacking witnesses, prosecutors, or jurors the former president took to truth social two, once again, attack the judge. juan merchan and his daughter. this time calling her out by name and describing her as a quote, rabid, trump pater and quote, in a rare interview with a sitting federal judge last night, judge reggie walton warned that on cnn that those threats can get real very quickly. >> it's, very disconcerting to have someone making comments

about a judge and it's particularly problematic when those comments are in the form of a threat, especially if they're directed at one's family, we have had judges who lost their lives or family members lost their lives. as a result of individuals who have been litigated in their courtroom. and i think it's important in order to preserve our democracy that we maintain the rule of law all right >> sure. michael, this is as the judge says, there, it's dangerous for people. i mean, we have seen the effects of trump's attacks in the real-world in terms of political violence. there is also the reality here that he is basing his attacks on an account that no longer belongs to the judge's daughter? yeah. we were talking about that. yeah. on the break. >> i >> mean, look, i think this was red meat for the base obviously, but it's red meat for a base that's already

firmly behind the former president. i think what he needs to do is pivot and talk about the economy and the nuances of immigration about the united states standing in the world. all issues where president biden currently is a little bit shaky on shaky ground on some of those points that a lot of americans, he needs to be able to showcase, the juxtaposition of why i can do a better job on some of the most pivotal issues impacting your daily life this just isn't it. and this is a part of that concern for a lot of republicans. >> do you >> continue to turn off voters that we may need and some of those very critical swing races that may also impact down-ballot races. >> really interesting, mark, we heard yesterday from liz cheney. she gave a speech, i choose at drake university in iowa. take that for what you will. >> but she talked about a little bit what about the trials of donald trump let's, let's start with that. and i also want to get to something else she said, but let's let's take a look at what she said about the delay tactics that trump is using in the legal realm i think it's very

important that the supreme court recognize that what he's doing is a >> delaying tactic and that the american people, it cannot be the case that a president of the united states can attempt to overturn an election and seize power. and that our justice system is incapable of holding a trial, of holding him to account before the next election >> so she's >> basically saying their pay supreme court, these tactics cities using they are working and it's not fair to americans to not get to this before the election is going to be heated >> i can see what this is a lonely place for her to be right now because there isn't that many republicans we're gonna be as vocal, certainly as she has been interesting, that you chose drake university to do it eight to your point. i mean, it is to kick off and will be the kickoff to the republican presidential primary, assuming donald trump

does not win in november in four years from now, it's also the place of the either way, if he does win as well. oh, you're right. >> who knows if he continues? recording the constitution, he can maybe extended another i'm just saying, but drake university was the place for the last republican presidential primary debate, which was, which was on scene. it so interestingly that you goes back to the place to normally attack her party. but one thing that i do think that republicans are some conserved were maybe many conservatives are getting wrong about her message is that she's not a democrat and she was very explicit last night saying both political parties had abandoned the constitution. so this isn't, this why the way it will help rats, but about hold on one second. let me just show you the other bite from her that i wanted to. i take your point in terms of policy, but she also had this to say about the difference between donald trump and the biden administration watch >> i certainly have policy disagreements with the biden administration. i know the nation can survive bad policy. we can't survive a president who is willing to torch the

constitution and she's talking about trump, the lesser of both evils, right there, you know, in many ways, i think if you go back, i'll show my age here to a cartoon where you had the sheep dog >> in the coyote and they would, every morning, they would punch in and they would run around after each other. and at the end of the cartoon, they would punch out in the sheep dog would to turn the coyote and say, hey, georgia, tell you why if i said hello oh, tonight and they'd go off on their way, that used to be washington republicans and democrats could actually get along not necessarily attack each other it so personally, in maybe not agree that, you know, with everything that got done, but there was a middle ground. now we are so polarized. >> meghan, last word here. i mean, it. i do take the point. i mean, it's a much different it's a much different place it's but i think this is certainly one of the things that i, as a journalist struggle with every day. i mean, i grew up in an environment where you learned how to cover jeb bush running against hillary clinton in a way that gave space to the policy differences between them to allow voters to make

decisions. now you have cheney's words are we can't survive a president who is willing to torch the constitution. when you see what happened on january 6. and that would motivate what motivates her. that's what makes this so difficult. >> yeah i think that again, this election came down to a stark contrast between the two the two presidents here. and i just think are people going to wake up and november and vote for someone who was basically lighting the constitution on fire when he was in office, or someone who they may disagree with his policies, but they understand that democracy is at stake and they can work through that. and in four years we'll start over again, that's something that they're willing to do. or we going to just go back to trump and everyone's going to wake up to what's on his twitter xd every day and we're all going to react to that and then have to decipher what's lives and what's not lies. >> and then of course, first mark preston has raised the question of what happens after that >> thank you. >> how's that for friday. okay. >> i'm ready for the weekend. thank one up next year, nine dk $90,000 for one year of college

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looking for a job at the republican national committee, you better come prepared current and potential staffers at the rnc have been asked if they believe the 2020 election was stolen according to two sources familiar with the questioning, this is happening amid a trump orchestrated make over of the republican national committee, hand-picked north carolina gop chairman michael whatley, excuse me, taking over as chair and trump's daughter-in-law, lara trump, serving as co-chair trump advisers have described the current relationship between the trump campaign and the rnc as a symbiotic one. joining us now is cnn political commentator and the host of cnn's smirk conic, michael smith >> michael loving this friday tradition that we have, it's great to have you on the show let's talk about this rnc. i mean, is it appropriate for them to be asking people it using are they using as a litmus test this question of whether or not they think the election was stolen you know critical by the way, i feel likewise, thank you for having me critical thinking exercises. they're common, especially

among big tech at, >> among the financial houses. this doesn't feel like a critical thinking exercise, which is the way that they've tried to respond to some of the inquiry about it? know to me, like you've just said, if feels more like a litmus test and casey, i think the bigger issue here is that it exhibits this continued resistance on the part of the rnc republicans writ large, donald trump to early voting and mail voting. in other words, if they're questioning potential employees at the rnc, do you think the election was stolen? how likely is it that they're going? we do embrace early voting and states like arizona and georgia where i think it's necessary to be competitive. and that's the real problem. there's a growing tension. i think between what needs to be done in the field and hanging on to the idea that the election of 2020 was stolen yeah, michael, i mean, we've seen lara trump, the incoming co-chair, get up in front of microphones and say to people, i've embraced early voting, but you've seen >> the former president at campaign stops. i don't have to

hand, but we've played it on the show before. raising questions about it, yet, again, to your point, that seems counterproductive if you're republic we'll just wanted to win elections. no >> it looks like in this cycle, more than half of americans are going to vote early. i mean, take a look at the commission on presidential debates. i don't know casey, if there will be debates this cycle, i hope there will be, but they've already established the dates. and if you look at the calendar, they've established, they pushed them forward in a way like we've never seen in before. why? because by the time likely debates of the past have taken place, most americans are not most, but many americans have already voted it's really becoming more and more ingrained. so like the rnc has got to embrace the idea that people want to vote early in the process. and many of them want to vote by mail. so if you're asking your new house hires, was the election stolen? maybe they aren't new hires who are going to adapt to the times >> yeah. >> michael speaking, the rnc, i know you've also been thinking about the implications for

trust in media among a wide range of the american public in terms of what's going on with ronna mic daniel, what is your take on that >> so i've been under the impression that donald trump was the one who wanted her out. and i find it interesting now that republicans are rallying around ronna mcdaniel as being the victim in the whole brouhaha with nbc >> i think they're getting >> great mileage out of it thus far, so much so now that the rn to see is saying, perhaps we won't welcome nbc at the convention. casey, i don't think they can do that. i don't think it's solely their call as to what media sources might get into cover the convention. but it just shows that this is a story with legs and now it's being used for political mileage yeah now, it's not there call. and also you're really going to give up an entire broadcast network for your candidates convention speech heading into a competitive election. i have some questions about that. >> michael, >> one of the other things we've been talking about this morning is obviously the way that the trump campaign and the

cover of the new york post or phrasing, framing what we saw in new york yesterday, this and of glitzy fundraiser with three presidents on the stage, stephen colbert, lots of hollywood stars vs donald trump attending the wake for slain police officer in new york and i can't help but thinking also, we just did a little read on the fact that college costs are now there are some northeastern universities the tab for it is like $90,000, which seems to underscore to me just how out of reach that kind of thing feels for so many americans. i'm just curious how you think about this increasing cultural divide in america right? >> and it's amazing the point you're making. i was just looking at the cover of the new york post chaz, this split screen on for presidents in manhattan in new york city for the same day >> the cost of the >> cost of college is crazy. >> and >> it's amazing to me how much attention and by the way, i'm guilty as charged. i've played this on my own behalf and for

all of our kids so much attention gets focused on a handful of elite northeastern universities were the costs, as you point out, are insane approaching $100,000 a year who can afford that very few among us. and yet the real story is one of declining enrollment lower in the echelon of the ranking of colleges. and i think many in this era of anti-electron intellectual ism, which is what you're referring to, are now questioning the value of an education. and i guess what i'm trying to say is that as all the attention is heaped at the top those schools which offer great educations, but are lower rated, less ranked, are struggling. and that's the real issue here, right? >> and it's important because that those its those kinds of places and community colleges, i will say, you hear a lot of democrats in washington talk all the time about community college and community college access, and how also trade programs and other things that people have less, less access

to or, or which are also struggling. michael >> thank you very much. i really appreciate your time. everyone needs to watch him tomorrow. 09:00 a.m. saturday right here on cnn. hope to see you next week. >> all right now this he arrived in office as a gop star with impressive business acumen. virginia governor glenn youngkin was delta blow yesterday with the collapse of his plan to move the washington wizards and the capitals from here in dc where we're sitting to alexandria, virginia, just down the road. the demise of this much touted $2 billion project comes after virginia's legislature shutdown the deal. and this is a pretty significant defeat for a governor who came to office with promises of bipartisan economic development. and by the way, presidential ambitions to go along with them. my panel is back. now, i look, i want to full disclosure. i live in washington, dc, the congressman that represents part of the area that would've been significantly impacted hi, goodbye. this was just on here saying he thinks it's important for the downtown region here in washington to retain these two teams will just put that out there as

well. but that's said this was kind of a big thing for alkyne, right? look huge announcement that this was going to come to virginia and it collapsed economic development. a ton of jobs you're seeing booming alexandra, i live in arlington. you're seeing a lot of younger people move into those areas. a lot of people move out of dc into those areas for affordable housing. i think this really was a failure for the governor, but but i will say this. i am hope for from my understanding, he's looking at other economic opportunities to bring to the northern virginia area here you some things that if he plans to run in 2028, he could potentially campaign on >> yeah >> mark, can we talk for a second about about mayor browser? sure. it was >> handed like a bassett give >> because frankly, i mean, the perception for people that are invested in watten in the city here was mess this up. >> yeah. i thought she wasn't a lot of trouble. and in fact, i've taught front and interesting deadly you know, who owns all the sports teams, kind of eight somewhat humble

pie and came out and said, well, thank, thank you to the mayor for continuing these conversations. they weren't even talking and, you know, the economic development we're talking about where they wanted to put this was basically right next to the pentagon right next to where amazon is putting its, it's hq t2 here on the east coast that place is exploding right now, had that arena left downtown, washington dc, that place would have just fallen. it absolutely would have. they needed that anchor for all of those restaurants and bars in downtown dc and especially at a time will receive being city's deteriorate post-covid? yeah. well, so that's kinda my question too about this, meghan, i mean, the reason that tablet was the owner of these teams had given for leaving was in no small part that i will be real crime and chinatown, where are these this arena is located. it is a problem. >> and he >> had sort of detailed how he was trying to get the meredith pay attention to this and that she wouldn't and this was a big part of the reason why he left. what do city leaders, the federal government needs to be doing to address what is honestly, i mean, honestly, dc

is the trend here is worse than it isn't. a lot of other places. there are many other places where crime is dropping. that is not the case here, or a handful of other big cities i mean, i think we need to be paying attention and talking are local businesses and ferrying out what makes the most sense? i don't think that affordable housing and its mother economic things that are impacting here are being helpful, right? we're pushing a lot of folks out and it's really expensive to live in dc just like you were saying with arlington being more affordable for housing and people don't want to go into places that are now crammed i'm that they're afraid that they're gonna get carjacked or rob walking to a game like a cat's game from the metro, like a cat scan a couple of weeks ago in the metro you there's police everywhere just from leaving the arena to the metro and that's like a block. yeah, it's like right under head writer. and you're sort of, it makes you even feel more on safe that there's so much police presence there. so there definitely needs to be they need to be paying attention and hopefully this is a wake-up call for both the mayor and some different businesses to help with development. yeah. i mean, sure. michael, how much

of an opportunity is crime specifically here in washington? for former president trump's campaign. >> look, we've seen it >> lord >> nationally for the most part, but he is looking you know, places like dc is talking about his crime britain, he's also looking at new york city and other places. he's talked about. he's attached crime to actually the migrant issue to the effect of saying i would be better on these issues, then the current president, i do not believe in court of quote, defunding the police, which we know what that phrase really is trying to allude to. it does play well to suburban independent swing voters who are principally concerned about when i go into the city on the weekend, am i safe when i'm out with my family when i'm out with my spouse, i think it's legitimate argument. >> yeah. well, i yeah. i will let me mark last word on this >> it's friday. it's a holiday it's been an aldehyde so far in washington, i don't should all take a step back and as we saw in this beautiful conversation today, we may not always agree, but we can be agreeable i guess, on the

spiking. >> sorry. i won't done. well. >> i really all right. i will leave you with this after baltimore had a rough and emotional start this week, the orioles gave their city plenty of reasons to cheer whereby everybody the team's new owners bought around for fans of pickles pub. i love pickles >> nothing goes better with free beer than a dominating win. the orioles just soared to an 11 to three win against the angels to start their 2024 season, >> mark. i don't know how long you've been in this area. if you're an os fan and that's fan, i'm a huge os mangoes my dagger up in baltimore. i am so excited for this season. >> they call you strum ski and ted williams slave for the orioles >> read sox come on >> we'll see you soon here >> all right. thanks very much to our