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joining us. laura coates, live starts right now. >> a ruling in a trump case ever, ever actually final what we're going to talk about tonight and especially to our addition of laura coates live good evening. >> i'm laura, both in washington, dc and what a weak in his band tonight. in fact, there have been two major developments in two of donald trump's legal battles and the delay, delay, delay strategy it's now officially in overdrive and break it down for you because first president trump and his legal team in the georgia election subversion case are making it official. they are appealing a judge's decision to let district attorney fani willis stay on that case the judge did say that if she stayed her hand picks special prosecutor nathan

wade, would of course, have to resign. that was because he had been accused. they've been reports of their romantic relationship between the two of them, and that they went on fancy vacations together and funded by that special prosecutor at salary. now, as you know, we didn't fact step down, but that apparently was not enough for trump's legal team. because in their filing, a claim, the de a willis has quote covered herself and her office and scandal and disrepute as she has squandered her credibility and repeatedly and flagrantly violated the heightened ethical standards demanded of her position. >> unquote >> now, how long this could actually delay the trial and how long would that last, if at all? that seems to be unclear as you and i are talking right now, the court does have up to 45 days to rule on this motion, and trump could also go beyond this appellate court and go eat even further to the state supreme court and maybe even above the state supreme court. but willis, for her part, seems

wholly unbothered. she made it clear last weekend that there's no staff in this train i do think that there are efforts to slow down and train, but the train is coming >> and while trump tries to discredit the prosecutor in the georgia case, keep up now, he doing the same to the judge in the new york hush money case, his legal team revealed prosecutors with alvin bragg's office are trying to expand a gag order that's coming up to trump attacked the judge and his daughter multiple times online. joining us now is ej dionne. he is a calmness. the washington post and senior fellow at the brookings institution also with a cnn contributor and former nixon white house counsel, john dean. gentlemen, a pleasure to have both of you on this evening. what a day and what a week? and what i really legal season this has all ben lee begin with you, john dean on this because there

have been some major legal threads tonight as you well know fani willis is still on the case, but there is an appeal. >> would >> this affect the timeline? do you think and the ability to bring this case to a trial? >> before the election >> not necessarily. laura, as you know, it really won't mean whether they're not the court of appeals first excepts the case. they have 45 days to do that. in the normal operating procedure and that georgia appellate court they do so in 30 days so the question is, will they accepted and if they accept, it will lay stay the proceedings, not necessarily. they could let this go on. so there doesn't necessarily have to be a halt of the proceedings at the trial level. >> and of course, so far, they have 45 days. we don't yet know how long it'll take to do this, but it could very well be resolved sooner than that. each other me ask you, because fani willis as you have seen, has

been a very popular target for the trump legal team. and his supporters since the very beginning. and the longer this drags on, the more sheets certainly is in there. crosshairs, so to speak. well, this tactic more broadly, be to delay. i mean, she just the sort of pretextual reason to get this case delayed well, i think you told 90% of the story right at the beginning of the segment, when you said delay, delay, delay that is >> clearly the trump's strategy on every single one of these cases. when judge mcafee ruled here, he made clear that he wasn't wild about the behavior in this case. but the georgia law is very clear and very strict about a conflict of interests. the defense really had to show that there was a conflict that actually affected this case. and he concluded, despite some words of criticism for fani willis, that there for

was and mr. wade of it, there was no reason to declare a conflict of interest and that the trial should go forward. and obviously trump and the other defendants would love nothing better than to have her throne off the case because we would then have no idea what jurisdiction does it go? in with the whole process have to start over m. so there's a kind of double delay strategy here. i think there's a given that maccabees decision was very carefully done i think it's very possible the court will say no, we're not going to take this. he was white. that certainly one possibility here but they could also take their time about deciding that well, part of the point we talked about the d word of delay. the other diy word though ej is disk credit, and that's an equal goal here. >> oh yeah. there's no question about that. and obviously there's some degree that's to

try to affect the jury if the case ever does go to trial, but it's also about the election. i mean, trump is trying to turn every trial, every one of these 91 counts against tim as an attack that he thinks will appeal to his political base. i think the trouble here is that he's not in the republican primaries anymore. he's more or less secured the nomination and i think voters who aren't republican independence and obviously especially democrats, will be less sympathetic to this strategy that being on trial is not a good thing for trump. that's why it reverts to delay because i think it really would hurt trump in the election if he were convicted in any one of these cases? >> let's move to new york for a second. john dean, because if the tactic is to attack the credibility and try to get da the prosecutor, fani willis out the tactic in new york seems to

be to get the judge to recuse himself or to take the bait. john dean, is this going to be successful because in many ways we have seen this movie play out in a number of cases with donald trump >> judge mission in the new york case is a very sophisticated, tough judge. he's had difficult defendants in his courtroom before. he knows how to deal with donald trump first, he will not take the bait secondly, i wouldn't be surprised since trump doesn't seem to want to read the order in a way that a normal person would that it's also to or not to affect the jury pool the judge either in the courtroom makes it clear or color let's see attorneys in and says, listen, you're responsible for your client tie, bringing them in and stop polluting the jury pool before he asked the actually issue a new order to see if that works,

if that doesn't work he might issue a new order can they appeal it? not likely. he wouldn't let them >> well, in respects. this is supposed to be the leader of the republican party. the republicans pride themselves on being the party of law and order but this is an attack on the judiciary. obviously, it's his daughter, but what impact does it have that somebody hoping to be the head of the executive branch of government, once again, is going after the judicial branch. john well, there's no low that donald trump seems unwilling to go to and this is the latest is his effort to bring down the whole judicial branch, if you will. he this is not new though, laura, as we know, i was done back when he was first campaigning and he attacked a a judge who had the universe the trump university case. and he just laid into him, he said claimed he was hispanic when he was born in indiana and then

just railed against him ended up paying $25 to settle the case after he surprising effect on himself elected. but he there is just no bounds that seem to strain this man in his ability to attack the judges. and he has spent an awful lot of time in court i just don't think this plays with the general electorate and his best base right? like it. nobody else does >> well, that's an interesting part here, isn't it? ej? because normally you would try to expand your base from the primary to the general and you want to envelop more and more people into the fold who would see you as a viable candidate and would not have a visceral reaction to the things you're saying. that is no longer the mo of this because i'm dave nominee >> no. i >> think that's absolutely right. i think it's one of the odd things about trump is that he seems always to be campaigning to his base. he has

not reached out to nikki haley or her supporters. he's spoken contemptuously of them and one product to that is a new by nadh where he quotes tropic shows trump basically speaking with contempt for haleon, her supporters and saying, come on with us and save the country. and so yes, i think that will he make a pivot? it seems very hard to see him do this pivot. and john dean is right, this is his mo and going after, uh, judges daughter is such an outrageous thing to do. >> but >> he is happy to stoop to it. and his strategy is attack, attack, attack, and hoping something sticks, i just don't think it'll stick with this with judge marsh on in new york. >> i almost wonder if the judge is intentionally not wanting to expand the scope to avoid the

perception that will be used as ammunition against him that he suddenly is biased and it's about himself and he's trying to suggest that he's unbothered, but at the end of the day, i mean, the fact that there are on judges, that they are going in this direction as a lawyer is just stunning to me, gentlemen. thank you so much for joining me today. each ej de on and john dean thank you. >> good to be with you >> next. just call it 2022, 0.0. >> the >> matchup is the same, but biden, he's debuting a whole new tone as we saw last night. my panel is going to discuss it and south carolina, we'll head to the polls in june with a map that judges have already called unconstitutional. i'll talk with one of the candidates. brining there about that decision. plus a very somber anniversary. i'll talk to an expert about putin detaining american journalist evan gershkovich you're watching a special two-hour addition of laura coates live

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to 50% over real stone >> i'm zachary cohen in washington. and this is cnn >> our rights are the gloves are off, but the aviators, they're on president biden shifting his tone last night and his campaign fundraiser last night, of course, while sitting alongside president obama, president clinton. this time going directly after his opponent, even though he didn't actually mention them by name >> and make our democracy stake not a joke. i think democracy is the biggest stake. read a real inflection point in history things are changing. all the things he's doing are so old speaking. oh you know,

little old and out of shape. but anyway i see what he did there, didn't you? let's bring in cnn football commentators, ashley allison inch are singleton, glad to have both of you here. okay. first of all, he's not saying his name, but everyone knows the elephant in the room is donald trump. i wonder though about this strategy now and you're thinking about to do not by name, but going red atom, successful or not. >> oh, the name is coming like let's be clear where we're in the earlier phases of the general election and has just started i think with the two other former president's flanking him, it was talking it more in the abstract about the threat to democracy what he poses, but we will we call the biden campaign is going to be calling donald trump out by name democrats are going to be calling donald trump out by name. i think last night it was about joe biden and it was about the unity of the

democratic party having all former democratic presidents sitting behind him are next to him in contrast to donald trump's own vice president now supporting him and cabinet members so i thought it was a good good event. i wasn't there, but from the clips that i've seen, funny, talked about the issues in an important way. and raised a lot of money. >> i mean, a lot of my almost record making number i understand as well, but they're also the campaign interest me. there was this new ad, but just dropped trying to appeal to nikki haley voters. well, listen to this for a second. watch it nikki haley is made an unholy alliance with rhinos, never trumpers americans >> four, no prosperity to sydney she's gone crazy. she's a very angry person. she used not to presidential timber. >> i don't need the votes. we have all of us she gone haywire aren't that many never trumpers anymore? how do you >> bring his nikki haley voters back into the text? i'm not sure we need to manage

>> so i just talking about that. they didn't actually say as far as the biden harris ticket, what they are going to do for the nikki haley borrow just basically, he unlike you. >> yeah. i mean, i'm not convinced that that's enough. i mean, look in the door horner class, we had a lot of conversations about many of the megadonors who supported haley or someone else. and many of them said, oh, we're not going to back down on trump. and suddenly even the next week or two, they're looking to raise 33 million to usurp. what biden's 26 million from the other day. they're coming home, i think a good percent of those quote, unquote, never trumpers preserve requires i anti irs will ultimately vote for him. i do think however you're going to see at least 10% who will not vote for him no matter what. but the question for the biden reelection campaign is, it's not enough to just say trump doesn't want you what am i going to do? a p.sit some of your at least centrist right-leaning focus or things that you're interested in? about the economy, immigration, foreign policy, which is a big thing for many, many republicans. i'm not convinced that the president has really address some of those issues

>> interestingly enough, there was a great piece that julien's al-azhar wrote on cnn.com talking about the strategy really seems to be at hearkening back to the atwater de saying, i don't have to actually get you to like me i need you to hate my opponent more than you dislike me. is that what's happening here? >> well, throughout the entire primary, we kept saying the ads will write itself. and this is exhibit a, donald trump went out there like he does for every person who doesn't fall and fall on their knee and kiss the ring. and a technically haley so now there's not even joe biden's voice in that ad. it's all donald trump's voice just saying demeaning the voters that supported her. i do think those sure. michael, to your point, is that joe biden has talked about issues that nikki heater, nikki haley, voters will care about whether it's ukraine weathers what he did try to do on the border most recently in what the bipartisan build, it fell apart because of donald trump. >> i think you will >> see them began to talk more to nikki haley voters. we did

this in 2021. we got the endorsement of cindy mccain, republicans for biden. i think you will see another effort like that but he can't court nikki haley voters in an effort to fit like put his base and the people who really elect him. and i think it's a fine dance that they will figure out how to do on this point. i'm going to just this dramatical because jonathan martin from politico has this really interesting piece add. he says that he reached out to every current republican lawmaker who refused to commit to trump in the general lecturing. so i can use but he says, senator susan collins, mitt romney, tie a young bill cassidy and lisa murkowski. all said the same. they have not heard from biden. >> they >> i wonder if that's the mistake that biden might be making is a bridge you need to build. >> i think he should, but i would caution somewhat but my democratic friends, in terms of doing that, you don't want to isolate or turn off some skeptical progressives who are absolutely more than likely

going to vote for joe biden more so than some of those moderate leaning republicans. this election is ultimately going to come down the turnout, turnout, turnout mathematically nationally speaking, democrats have the numbers. the question for them is kinda get all of those numbers actually turn out similar to 2020 that i think will ultimately determine who wins this november, not reaching out to some of those republicans. >> is that while was so crucial to have by your side? yes. shade because he is widely popular and voter turnout was high when he was in office it. was high. it was actually they'll hire for joe biden. >> the reality is, is >> this is to my former boss, president obama's point. this isn't all hands on deck moment. it is that because of the risks that donald trump plays. and so if you were a clinton era voter and you like the way he did his politics or an obama voter and you voted for the first time because of the history he made, or you're a biden voter. what last night showed was that the coalition is starting to form. i do think though, that the biden campaign

will reach out to some of these senators. i don't think it's the time to do that right now. we just got into the general election. trump hasn't even select get his vice president. and i think that it's going to play into some where some of these folks, so strategically, i don't think it's a bad thing that they haven't heard from him also, a lot of those lawmakers, the biden administration was working with them to get policy actually pass. it kinda fell flat. so they're doing some governing right now. but by the summer, i bet you to reach out to >> they doing some governing right now wishful thinking >> you're all right, there you go >> i'm glad you mentioned the vice presidents are picked up because one person whose name is often floated, your michael is congressman byron, lord. and out of florida cnn's kfile is at it again because they have found something, they've unearthed some examples of donalds directly criticizing donald trump in past social media posts like this one from back in 2011 trump is a huge

distraction, he says and cares more about himself than the country in my opinion. but i could care less about him now, cnn reach out to his office and they said, quote, the fact that these decade posts are now resurfacing in the middle of running mate deliberations is weak but typical of cnn okay, but they did re-emerge. >> yeah, me like there are a lot of people who criticized the former president and went on to work for him, that a lot of people who criticized tim and still voted for him still supported and i'm still endorsed him. i mean, i think byron donalds is an interesting candidate. i mean, he's from brooklyn son of immigrants is parents immigrated from jamaica. smart guy, family guy. i do think that after talking to a couple of folks who are close to him today, that this is someone who probably would attempt to add some advantages in terms of that immigrant story. but also men of color, which we've seen generally speaking, and not just black man, but i'm talking about a broad spectrum of men of color,

sort of teetering more to the right. and so it would be intriguing to see what someone like byron donalds could potentially add to trump campaign. i don't want just pick on that >> particular instance like you have other potential vp picks like senator jd vance, who who has said that he was a moral disaster back in 2017. it congressman elise stefanik said, i think we should expect more substance out of our kanno-youngs that would 2015, senator marco rubio, his statement there as well, calling him an embarrassment. it's a lot of one '80s that have been done and i know that there's a huge karatay for to be a vice president. but house the democrats decide to use that isn't the agent yeah, characterizing them as flip-flop or isn't is that enough? >> remember how i started this segment. the ads write themselves. well, i think the ads will write themselves with this, regardless of who he pigs, there will be people who have aggressively criticized donald trump for the rhetoric for his policies. >> and then >> when they get opportunity for power they flip. and so the question is, and they flip after a january 6 after 91 indictments. so what is your

moral compass? what is your judgment based on? and i think it's an opportunity for democrats to hit if any of those folks are >> but i will say quickly, i mean, the vice president aggressively went after that then candidate biden on the debate stage page and she's still ultimately endorsed him, became his vice presidential candidate. so a ready-made, so this isn't something that is unique phenomenon in politics generally speaking, you see people doing very contested, heated moments criticizing the individual. and when they become the nominee, they ultimately go on to support difference is the vice president at that time and federal, kamala harris at that time, and vice president joe biden at that time were opponents. these individuals were not donald trump's opponents. they were members of the republican party that seemed to have a moral compass. now has switched because they want pow rubio wasn't appointment at one time, but point taken. ashley allison michaels singleton. thank you both so much. also tonight, voters remember them. well, there in south carolina and looking at a new district map, a map that courts have already called unconstitutional. now,

this was the map before redistricting in 2022 six republican districts and one democratic district. and now this is the map that was challenged after it was drawn in 2020 the same number of districts, but a few changes near charleston that make one districts less competitive than it was before civil rights groups sued. they argued the map was drawn to intentionally move thousands of black voters into a different district for political reasons. and they lose their voting strength. a three-judge panel, frankly agreed south carolina appealed that the supreme court, which heard arguments back in october but the justices have till june and they might use all their time because they have not announced their decision just yet. so now that same three-judge panel that said the map was unconstitutional says the map may have to be used. they say because time is running out the ideal must bend to the practical. joining me

now is michael be more a democratic candidate for the house from south carolina? now he is running in how citric, won one of the change districts. michael, thank you so much for joining me this evening. how are you? >> i'm doing great. thanks. i appreciate the invitation >> we looked at those maps and the distinction between two of them, and it does make the case as to why delay can be on your side if you are hoping to have a particular result, the key district that you're looking at is the one that you are running in. of course force and i wonder how concerned you are that this map is being allowed to go forward even while the supreme court is deciding on this very issue. >> well, i engage with this issue from a number of different vantage points. i mean, from the standpoint of our campaign, we are out campaigning and connecting with voters and really generating enormous traction with folks we made the decision to jump into the race based upon how the lines are drawn. right now, we

certainly weren't looking to the supreme court or to the general assembly and south carolina to do us any favors? and we've got a, uh, winning plan and so from a campaign standpoint, what has happened is less material really, but from a deeper and perhaps a historical standpoint, there are really some it just makes me feel i'm disappointed deeply i am the descendant of three generations of people who risked their lives and who works tirelessly to extend voting rights to all south carolinians, but particularly to african-americans dating back to 18, 68 and so from that standpoint, i'm really disappointed in what the courts are doing. from the standpoint of someone who lives in the district and wants to is endeavoring who represent

people when his community there are people 567 miles away from me, who i engage with on a daily basis, who are now carved out of my district and that seems to be countered to the philosophy of how districts are supposed to be drawn then lastly, i would just say you know, i happen to be running for the same seat in the united states house of representatives that my great, great grandfather, robert smalls, served in during reconstruction. and he was gerrymandered out of a out of a district 150 years ago or so. and of course, south carolina is light years away from where it was during reconstruction. but here is the same pernicious tool being used to exact honore and political advantage at any and all cost. and it's disappointing i think south carolina carolinians are better than that >> you know, that is so fascinating to think about the way that this historical moment is heating itself. 150 years

later. and the same tactic of dilution and gerrymandering, being questioned and raised for that very reason, though i wonder what what the people of your dressing we shouldn't community feel about it? is it something that makes people animated and motivated to turn out to vote or to throw up their hands >> no, i think we're finding that people are really motivated and excited and energized our campaign is about bringing real common sense solutions and bringing representation that is committed to the district and that wants to be here. i will say that nancy mace, the current incumbent you know, people don't have a sense that she ever really cared about the first congressional district. she's off grandstanding and trying to get on fox news every other night and the like and there are people who i talked to every day who have needs,

who need government to work for the need, someone in washington to have their back. and our candidacy, i think speaks to those issues. and like i said, people are resonating with a deeply no. >> i really quick, i want to ask this question to you. by the way, we did reach out to congresswoman nancy ways to come on. she was unable to join us, but she's welcome. of course, anytime to address this point and others there's a deadline for overseas absentee ballot let's i think it's april 27th the state will need to print ballots, obviously, ahead of that deadline. and if there's not a supreme court decision coming, there's going to be at perhaps some uncertainty of who's in which district, what should people do? >> well, the district is, as it was during the last election but i think that the disappointing, the further desert of disappointing fact is that the supreme court is dragging their feet on this i gave a speech on the steps of the supreme court in october 11, which was the day that oral

arguments for this case began >> they >> know what they have decided. they know they've gone through all the deliberations they need to go through their playing politics to try to put their hand on the scale in this race. and but i will tell you that again, the people who i talked to who are energized, who are really focused on creating some real change in the first congressional district. they are activated in ways that we haven't seen in a long time. and i don't think they're going to let someone in washington decide the lines are decide that they representation in the house >> really important point michael, be more as we await the supreme court let's take their next steps with respect to voting rights in this country. thank you so much >> thank you >> up next, an american journalist is marking a year behind bars in russian custody

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earlier today, i joined cogs are multiple news outlet at outlets. we set aside our professional competitions ideological differences, perhaps uniting around a single thing re-read the work that evan wrote before he was detained it's reporting that he should be doing now instead of being locked up media outlets weren't the only ones to come together in a rare congressional joint statement, leaders at both sides of the aisle said, quote journalism is not a crime reporters are not bargaining chips joining me now is doug london a retired senior cia operations officer and author of the recruit. >> doug, what strikes >> me initially as you look at the cover of the wall street journal today, i mean, look at this, it's where his reporting actually should be it's where it should be >> it says >> his story should be here a year of stolen stories, stolen joys, stolen memories, >> the crime >> journalism i wonder when you

look at this and then of time, but he's been detained what is the motivation of putin? do you think? >> is it the fact that this is a journalist and he has a critique of free press or is it because this is a foreign citizen? >> i think we have to be careful and trying to apply american logic to how prudent acts, what motivation he doesn't essentially because you can't. and there's no consequences. there's no cost to him, which supports his brand of being strong, of being an act with impunity and particularly being able to stand up to the united states. in fact, spinning the psi and the americans can't do anything about even protecting their own people. so think about the message that sends back home as your suggestion, laurie, what is that sending? is that the idea that putin is more powerful than the west or that he is indifferent to the sanctions. there's, is there a nuance to it? >> it means there's no cavalry coming. there's no one to rescue years. you're going to the five putin, you're going to do it on your own. if the

united states to so-called greatest power in the world could do nothing to protect their own people. how are they going to protect you if you speak out, i think the message is well to journalists, to your colleagues, but also to those who might be speaking to journalists in russia. it's powerful, it gets the point across i mean, six russian journalists were to attain this week alone. many of them were reporting on navalny's funeral. obviously, navalny has now died in a penal colony he is obviously trying to send a message internally as well. but the very fact that is covered, does that show some sort of a shift in terms of the facade of cracking? >> i think his massive information machine does a good job to support his brand, to be able to take these events and make him look stronger, smarter than his opponents and his opposition. so there's no way to shame. so when i can and certainly not externally let alone within his own country. so i think he welcomes the coverage. i think he welcomes the cast of him as the brilliant villain >> you said that he can. >> is there any aspect of >> this that gives him leverage

>> you know, he's been talking or at least the russians have been speaking. we've seen in the press about trying to get that him cross golf back out of germany. now he's a former fsb officer. he assassinated in broad daylight in 2019, a georgian chechen dissident. and he's been the name that keeps coming up, but it's sort of an impossible ask one. he's not held by the americans and the german judicial system works quite differently than ours, but that allows him to message to his people that surface that if you do my bidding, i'll take care of you. i'll never forget you. >> us special envoy for hostage affairs, roger karsten was speaking with my colleague brianna keilar and asking about updates on negotiation. listen to what he had to say your viewers would be stunned at the amount of time energy and creates creativity that goes into crafting this, these, these deals at the same >> time, the more we talk about at the less chance we have a pulling it off. sometimes it's better to be sensitive and keeps some of these, these deals classified covert, private, so that we can execute

them as opposed to negotiating and public >> why is that the preferred method? >> i don't necessarily know that it is. i think the quiet part is what serves putins. so that he can maybe show more flexibility than he wants exposed. that might undermine his brand is being able to sent up the united states. but i think the governments consistently try to see, well, we have to worry about triggering prudent. we have to worry about making feel weaker, desperate, but he seems to act the most defiantly when he's the most comfortable and confident. so don't necessarily know that holding back and worrying about giving him face-saving opportunities for exits and deals is necessarily in our best interests or an evans best interests no what a catch-22. >> and again, this has now been a full year everyone his story should be here because we know that journalism is not a crime. dead london. thank you so much. >> up, next, multiple >> raids on his properties, allegations of sexual misconduct, music and culture mogul, sean diddy combs is in

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writing quote, while others might have emphasized their tough guy bona fides, their experiences and prison, or the dangers of their childhood combs painted a picture of a hero. he put a gatsby asked sheen on whatever he touched, and he had his hands on everything. robin geovanny joins me. now, robin, i'm so glad that you're here. thank you for joining and your piece. as always. excellent. and thought-provoking as you know, he has been involved in a number of ventures, but in light of what is happening, there was the white parties, there's a charter school, there's ciroc just to name a few, sean john. right. tell me about the cultural impact that he has made. well, i >> think when you look back >> on his career, he was at the very forefront of that generation of hip-hop performers and producers who really aspire to be something beyond that, they want it to be moguls. they wanted to build filled empires. and he really

started that. and when he started, sean john was 1998 and who was first of all, one of the first celebrities who entered the fashion arena. but he did it in a way that was very much about becoming part of that industry he courted editors. he started going to fashion shows he did it in a way that suggested that he wanted to do it for the long haul, that it wasn't just dabbling and he just kept building on that. and i think in many ways he wanted to create this picture of himself as a kind of, you know, gilded age tighten and not that hip hop was bootlegging but i think there was a lot of that sense of wanting to polish up the image of the culture that he was coming out of. and that's what he did >> is that all on shaky ground now in light of all these allegations, and mainly you look at how quickly we begin to

evaluate one's legacy in lighted allegations. in spite. of the presumption of innocence that certainly are there and there has been no charges yeah i mean he's denied all the accusations or hadn't been any charges. but already we're starting to see that some of the companies and organizations that were affiliated with him have started to back away. and unfortunately, the idea of guilty until proven innocent when you've lived so much of your professional life in the public you tend to be quite quickly judged by that public >> when you look at some of the accusations, i think there's a collective immediate recollection of the me too movement and the broader hollywood context i wonder how you look at these charges in light of the me too movement. is this something similar on the horizon here more broadly >> well, i mean, i think there's definitely there are definitely related because some

of these charges came out because of the extension of the statute of limitations but i also think that it just really sort of calls makes me wonder if on the road to building these empires, if there is just always some sort of trail of alleged devastation and disillusionment and pain. i mean, he wanted to build this enormous multi-million-dollar empire and he certainly did. and then started getting into philanthropy. and i think it raises perhaps some cynical questions about where's that philanthropy coming from? is it coming out of guilt or is it coming from a different place? i think not that i'm putting those things on sean combs, but i think this raises those questions because we see this so often we are really in the infancy of the investigation and those questions are yet to

be answered, and i suspect there'll be hundreds more by the time we learn, even the next step. i do want to turn to the loss of a hollywood legend, though. and louis gossett junior, he was the oscar-winner. most notably known for films like officer and a gentleman. of course, also routes and here's a small clip from officer and a gentleman that he was so powerful and tell me what i want to >> i want dlr >> i watch your >> vor i go to court get it out i got you know, what a powerful

performance and there's so many iconic scenes that he has been a part of of hey, to cry. i mean, i remember that. i remember that scene. remember the part when deborah winger is carried at the very end by richard gear up and i'm movie person in general. and of course, he was somebody who on his way to hollywood he had the experience frankly of so many people of his era and continued today in terms of the racial profiling that he is experienced and beyond talk a little bit about the challenges he faced on his journey. as you reflect on his legacy yeah. >> i mean, this is someone who worked with people like sidney poitier. and we louis gossett told a story about arriving in hollywood after having these successes on the stage and having established a pretty successful rare, and really not just being profiled, but being arrested and handcuffed to a tree because he fit the

description of someone in the area that they were looking for. and after winning an oscar for officer and a gentleman, he talked about how he thought that these wonderful for roles would start to come to him and they didn't. but he broke such ground and was just such an extraordinary actor. >> he really was. and i'm have a chance to speak with love our burden in the next hour as well. i would love to reflect with him on this powerful figure and a legend who we have lost today, robin, thank you. >> thank you up >> next, a new turn and trump's war against the judge in the new york hush money hey, could trump base. now, in expanded gag order, as he keeps slamming the judges daughter on social media, i'll discuss every time you. turn on cnn, there's like some arab dude talking about how islam means peace. you know, that guy >> but he's >> always shouting it he's

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