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merchan to expand the gag order against trump there right now, the gag order does not apply to the da and it doesn't say anything about it applying the judge or his family it does apply just about everyone else court staff, their family, et cetera. so >> what does that mean? >> well, that trump saw a window and trump well, he jumped right through that window. he's been attacking the judge and his daughter in truth, social writing that judge is totally compromised and that his daughter, lauren, is a rabid trump haider. just so we're clear, the daughter is not a part of this case at all. >> full stop. >> it's random yet. oh, so calculated. >> and it seems that this may have been the last straw for de a bragg. and by the way, that straw landed on several campbell's backs because also it led to a stunning moment took place right here on cnn and then a sitting federal judge, reggie walton, tell your

own kaitlan collins, this it is very troubling because i think it is an attack on the rule of law. when judges are threatened and particularly when their family is threatened. and it's something that's wrong and should not happen. >> now, just so we're clear, that does not happen, that federal judges often speak out or seldomly speak out. they don't really speak out on issues at all. >> that tells you a lot. >> and if for some reason you think this is all hyperbole and the judge is somehow overstating this threat than just consider what happened in texas late last year prosecutors say a woman threatened to kill judge tanya chutkan. that is the judge overseeing trump's federal election case right here in washington, dc the woman left a voicemail that said, and i'm quoting year. if trump doesn't get elected in 2024, we are coming to kill you. so tread lightly. >> be now, she pled guilty and

is now serving three years in prison. so again, you got to understand that sitting federal judges do not come out and regularly speak on television. that's why some have called this appearance by this judge nothing short than an act of bravery and, it also raised a question for retired judge michael luttig. the question of why it had to be a sitting judge to be the one to speak out when frankly, there are so many others who could or should no one no one single person in a position of responsibility to >> address this issue has done so for of courage and wat of will and until or unless we as a nation address this issue then we're careening toward the effective end of the rule

of law. and in america >> joining me now, former january 6 investigative council, markus childress, and former white house communications director under trump and managing partner of skybridge capital, anthony scare munshi. thank you both for being here. >> during those words from that >> judge, from both judges frankly, is really stunning. but think of where we are. let me ask you first, markus on this, whether you think that trump is baiting the judge here, and if you think that the judge will consider the expansion of her request to broaden the gag order i'm not sure it's that calculated. i think this is just the former president during the former president does, which is attack people who he thinks might hold him accountable. it's been judges throughout it was the ag the judge and ag case and the new york ag case last year going after his wife, going after him personally go after the clerk going after judge chuck, and now he's going after judge merchant. it's just it's the same kind of pattern that is been present with the

former president. and that's why you saw judge walton. i think taking it out and speaking publicly about look, if we don't have a functioning judicial system that people are going to attack our judicial system in our institutional norms. and we're gonna have tyranny. and that's been the theme. throughout this entire experiment of trump is just tearing down institutional norms and heading towards tyranny. and as a lawyer, it really stood out to me that a sitting federal judges you said went on national tv and talked about the threat to him and his family have received. and i hope it's starting to reach americans as well, because otherwise we're going to pay the price when these norms are no longer for existing anti, let me turn to you here because clearly we have seen trump in the attack mode and a different sectors and best of his career what do you make of this behavior in terms of attacking not only the judges, but the daughters in the family members so i agree with mark is that it's not isolated or premeditated. he's not waking up in the morning and saying, let me attack the judges daughter. but what it is his

blanket bullying. and so laura, his whole game is about bullying people, pushing them intimidating them. he is found throughout the course of his five decade career that lots and lots of people cow or to him. >> and what >> he's hoping with this wave of bullying in the judicial situation is if it's not this judge, it'll be another judge as working you're on a case with him that may throttled down a little bit as a result of the bullying. and so it's intimidating, it's wrong. but no one standing up to them. and so i just take you back to the wizard of oz. wouldn't the water got thrown on the which and she melted the guards were like, sorry, dorothy know, somebody's got to stand up to them in a position of power. and melt him before frankly, it's too late. i mean, this is the type of stuff that we look back on historically and say, why didn't anybody do anything?

>> that's a great analogy, markus, especially because part of what those guards were thinking was it somebody finally had the guts to do it in this person who seemed weak compared to this big bad evil, which suddenly just had the strength to say no, why is that happening here that they're not i mean, you have been very complimentary of judge walton. he's in the same fraternity as you as well why do you think he was the one to speak out where i think this was an amazing display of leadership, which is what alpha men tend to do but i agree with the, i think brave is an understatement, right. i mean trump is on the news every single day in the same court that judge walton sits on with his peers. he seeing the stress that this is causing to the court and he's not the only one speaking out. other judges are speaking out to their court orders. i mean, just a month ago, judge lamberth write a reagan appointee in a pretty regular sentencing memo, talked about how we are politically sizing january 6 in a way that's going to be dangerous for our country moving forward

judges are repeatedly putting out these signs of where we're heading as a country hopefully the former president be held accountable for his actions. i think april 15 will be the start of that and maybe once we start seeing some accountability, other people might have the braver that judge walton showed this week to continue holding them accountable and their own courts of law or cases that are being brought against the former president marquez sicker. thank you so much for being here. anthony stick around. i'm going to start to ask you more questions about these yellow brick road because i want a more about this wizard and who behind the curtain? also donald trump is trying to attract pretty big donors that had once ditched him >> the jsr thought i was out almost topped over alba chino. this is mortifying for me. that's a great scene from the godfather >> the washington >> is reporting that earlier this month, trump has had breakfast with some pretty big names including several who

wrote trump off after january 6, the reason, quote, their affinity for the former president over taxes, unquote. now, trump's team is hoping there next big fundraising event will bring in 33 million and then there's this. trump's campaign is establishing tears for their doors, kinda like your airline mileage points, donors rank by how much money they're going to give you guy in the back of the plane. that's the group maga 24 for those who don't up to $24,000. i've next you got the club 47 for those who donate up to $50,000 next is the team america first, for those who donate up to 100 grand and then business class is team trump 2024, bringing in up to a quarter of $1 million. >> and first-class. >> now >> that's team ultra maga for those who give up to the max what is that? $814,000, 114,600

to be exact back with me now is anthony scare muji anthony, look, you've seen this report and the washington post reminded me of the moment during davos in january when jpmorgan chase ceo jamie dimon men had this to say >> just take a step back, be honest. he's kinda right about nato kind of right? but immigration, he grew the economy quite well three, tax reform worked. here's write about some of china. he wasn't wrong about these critical issues. and that's why the bone form >> is it all about the money? do you think >> well, yeah, this than i want i want to defend jamie for one second. i think because that clip is shown a lot and i think he was just trying to make the point that there's 74 ish million people that voted for trump trump we have to look at why they voted for him. and i i've said this, the people on

the biden campaign don't demean these people reach out to these people explain it then the sinister danger of trump and pull them to the other side. and so i think that's important if you're making a case that there are billionaires out there that like cuts in taxes. they like cuts and that's how they got to become billionaires. and so there's a group of them. it's much smaller than it was in 2016 or 2020 they're going to highlight those people. he's very upset. donald trump is about the $26 million that was raised. this week by president biden with the help of president clinton. and president obama. and so he's going to raise more than him because that's mr. trump's personality, but he's going to run out of money. laura okay. you'll see that happen he's got a $4,050 billion spread right now with the president. he is bad for business. if you're a billionaire out here watching laura coates is show

bad for business. i'd be running away from mr. trump right now because he does really harmful things to people and he's also very transactional. so he's your friend today, but he's going to back the truck over you tomorrow. and so that 860 or $816,000 that you're spending is going to go into the toilet. and last time i think he's going to lose the election. so it's a really bad investment for these people. >> but >> have added it's your money. and that's the way it works. instead, america, and you can sell anything to a group of americans, mr. trump is sell a lot of bonk, right now that you know, scary much you that my preferred ratings demographic or billionaires. somebody tonight, i tell you that in some way that we have that compensates everybody. >> i think everybody loves laura coates i am not ask demographically limited to the best now my first what luck? >> yeah >> that's not argue. i'm just saying i i i love everyone who watches the show. i'm going to ask you this though, speaking

of trump's money and maybe running out maybe a contributing factor to that could be these legal cases he has a reduced bond, as you know, in the civil trial is coming due next week. we'll he pulled together that money. i made 175 million in cash or cash equivalents or through an insurance company so he'll likely pulled together that money. he's got enough friends in different places to pull the money together he's not going to get it from disinterested third parties. they tried that on wall street ten days ago. no distress debt lender, no direct lender wanted to lend mr. trump anymore? when he's just bad credit, he doesn't pay his bills. and so this would have to be a politically motivated loan or this would have to be him coming up with some collateral for that loan. >> i think >> the real big issue and this is going to happen in in the end of the election is what happens with his djt stock which is a meme stock that's virtually worthless, but it's

trading right now for billions of dollars will he get the opportunity to sell some of that and then what does he do with that money? and then i think the big question is is that a backdoor way of avoiding a lot of our campaign finance laws. and by the way, when i say backdoor is actually going to be done legally. and so this will be something that we'll have to ask ourselves when 2024 is over. >> well, from backdoor to out the door, how many scared mood cheese and ronna mcdaniel last okay, well, it depends on how you characterize it at msnbc she lasted 0.1 scary movie cheese. but at nbc, it was actually 0.27, laura, but i round up because i'm a generous guy, so i'm going to say that she lasted 0.3 scare moot cheese kevin mccarthy by the way, he only glass 224.5 scare emojis as speaker but let's show, she'll come back she's a

she's a formidable force. ronna romney mcdaniel she'll come back, which has got to face the music about all of her lying and her election denialism. it was a missile take the hirer, but it would have been an even bigger mistake to put her on the air >> i'm frankly impressed by the math on a friday night at the karen munshi. thank you so much. >> i'm the official scorer of scour moocing, florida. you think that that's fair >> more than fair. >> will bow down for that. thank you so much >> good to be here >> well it was a story that made national headlines. i know you've heard about it. >> crystal mason is her name, convicted of illegally voting and facing five years in prison despite the fact that she says she didn't even know she couldn't vote. but tonight she has been finally acquitted. you know, who's here with us to share her story. >> crystal seven astronauts setting off on a scientific

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get friday plans.com. >> i'm a tosca bertrand at the pentagon. and this is cnn nearly seven years imagine for a second having the threat of going to prison, hanging over you for nearly seven years, all for an honest mistake that you made it a polling booth of all places and that's exactly the nightmare that crystal mason has been living. a nightmare that came to an end just last night. and it all started when mason cast her vote in the 2016 election. one problem though she at the time was on a supervised release after having time for tax fraud when she filled out her provisional ballot, something not permitted for felons on probation under texas law and having that she says she had absolutely no idea

about i thought i was exercising my civic duties. bow feeling about voting. i thought i had that right. and yet i am basing five years for enticing non-valid you heard her, right? >> she was facing five years in prison and in that time became a kind of poster child for the rights steady drumbeat of voter fraud. >> but last >> night, a texas court of appeals threw out the conviction crystal mason and her attorney, justin moore, joined me. now >> crystal, thank you so much for being here. i could not believe when the news of this story came out, let alone what you have been through, which has been a nightmare. now that you have been completely exonerated how are you feeling crystal >> i am right now just overland

i am just overjoyed with my fate thanking god for just keeping me saying do this whole journey. it's been seven years seven years, six years. i've been out on appeal, been one foot in, one foot out not knowing if i'm going to praise it than that. so this has been very, very hard, but i am just so grateful. i'm really in shock right now. like is this real? >> you also your a mother, just like me, you have three children now and i wonder where it's been like for you and your family to cope with this threat hanging over you guys for all these years? >> very difficult >> you know how you don't want hope for the best, but you've got to prepare yourself for the worse. so you want to make sure that you have someone in place that can maintain your bills, maintain the things that you have so if i do have to go at

leagues have somewhere to come home to so that's been very, very very, very acted on my family i mean, just and i can't imagine this and just thinking about parents want to know who their emergency contact might be for their children. they want to know if it'd be provided four for seven years. she's had to battle this for what the court has obviously found to be a completely innocent mistake. one of the things that chrysalis said in the past is i was thrown into this fight for voting rights and will keep swinging to ensure no one else has to face what i've endured over six years. just and what is despite been like well, i mean, the fight has been very stark and bleak at times, but we always maintain hope when i got involved, this was after the trial court made their determination to convict her to five years, and when we got involved with me and the other attorneys, when we thought our motion for a new trial we knew that there was something there that makes sure that cristal

didn't have to spend five years of her life in prison for something. so heinous. and i'll say this. i know everybody's casting this as a mistake, but this was a malicious prosecution there was nothing that crystal could have done to prevent that, right? she went to her polling location, she spoke with a poll workers there and they should have told her about her inability to vote. but instead they allowed or two and they insidiously reported that to the district attorney's office, and we all know that teren counties, one of the largest red counties in this country and we know at the time that the district attorney with someone that really liked to play and be involved in political theater. and they use that she used that she used crystals life as cannon fodder for this continual drumbeat of this very false narrative of illegal voting that we know is a false narrative. >> and i'm not mistaken. it was a provisional ballot. right. so you routinely will cast these ballots and for people who are not sure if there's supposed to and whatnot, that's almost the crux of why you have them.

but this case, jefferson was thrown out by the court of appeals because the prosecution didn't have the evidence. i just want to read for everyone year crystal what the court said, they said, quote, we conclude that the quantum of the evidence presented in this case is insufficient to support the conclusion that mason actually realized that she voted knowing that she wasn't eligible to do so and therefore, insufficient to support her conviction for illegal voting. >> what >> was just in the key piece of evidence? dividends that led this acquittal. and by the way, what took so long well, the key piece of evidence was that there wasn't any evidence and laura, you're former prosecutor we know that prosecutors around this country, they're charged with the with the ability, but also what the burden to not bring four cases that they can't meet all the elements to >> the fact that they've pushed this case through to essentially try and throw this woman's life away is completed now.

>> yeah, it's unbelievable. think about that and and also i wanted i don't interrupt you, but everyone is very interested these days, crystal, it seems in the two systems of justice right? there seems to be a drumbeat that suggests that it's a novel concept that some people are treated differently in our criminal justice system. i'll. point out that over in georgia, the state gop's vice chairman just pled guilty to illegally voting nine times over several years. and by the way, his punishment was a little more than a $5,000 fine? no jail time >> when you hear >> that and what you were facing, crystal and what this has been like, what is your race? yeah, action to the inequality of these systems >> obviously, you can see it's two systems that's, that's exactly what i saw when i realized that i filled out a provisional ballot. i didn't vote and i was sentenced to five years and were these people have actually voted in

dead mom's names and dead wife named going up there to vote in their own sun name this was showing me that there's two systems >> crystal mason, justin moore. thank you both so much. crystal. thank you for continuing to fight. i know this must have been heartbreaking and difficult every day, and i sincerely hope that it is behind you. thank you >> thank you >> well we are remembering today a trailblazing actor louis gossett, junior his former costar in routes levada burton. i'll pay tribute to him next >> my fellow citizens need to be better when new normal and makes me want you to be dead. so be better at being normal

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and less pain, learn more. it's still go >> i'm paula reid in washington and this is cnn but i put it on you feel what i feel anger and that's what i've thought to >> but it wasn't >> fear you can hear under >> a mask angeles that was the >> late great louis gossett junior, a brooklyn native, a much beloved actor on the stage and on the screen. and one of his most recent roles finding

the character william reaves and the show watchman. it earned him his final emmy nomination. gossett junior passed away today at the age of 87. you may have last seen him in his latest role in last year's remake of the color purple these perhaps best known as sgt. a mill foley in an officer and a gentleman. take a look in every class does always one joker who thinks that he's smarter than me in this class happens to be you. isn't it? mayonnaise >> that was an oscar winning performance, a groundbreaking oscar winning performance of that because gossett junior well, he was the first black man to take home best supporting actor and to think

he only got into acting because he had a basketball injury really know this man was multi-talented he went to new york university on a basketball and drama scholarship. >> he >> was at rookie training camp for the next when he got a call all to be in a raisin in the sun on broadway. he starred in the play and the film opposite one, sidney poitier. and the kits, it kept coming we saw him back in uniform in iron eagle yeah. as a boxer in the movie diggstown, the villain, the movie the deep and even an alien pilot in the movie enemy mine matches >> you >> in his memoir, gossett junior wrote sometimes i believe that the reason i have been able to do such exemplary work on the screen is because this is the only place i can be free. >> neither censored >> nor judged a who better to remember luis, gossett, junior

than one levada >> burton, >> who started roots as kunta kinte, a young slave men toward by fiddler luis, is character navarro. thank you so much for joining us tonight. how are you? >> dealing with the news of this beloved friend and mentor? lawrence? it's been a great day because luis, being celebrated all over this planet for the phenomenal talent, the exuberant life force, the remarkable human being that he was. and yeah that's a bit >> how can that be a bad day? >> right >> a true celebration of life and remembering the legacy and people all de, have been thinking, oh, my god, yes, i remember that. oh, i loved that. and what a testament to his artistry? i mean, he played, as i mentioned, a mentor figure to you on screen, but was more than just a role, was he a mentor to you in real life? >> he was very first day i met

lu was on the set of roots. we had just come back from georgia shooting the first three hours >> he immediately invited me to his home in malibu. he cooked dinner. we drank wine and swapped stories. almost all night long by the time we got to set the next morning khuza'a and fiddler were bonded for life, he was just an open hearted, giant and he was absolutely a mentor figure from me. i felt like that he took me under his wing and ushered me into the fraternity of black performers and he was absolutely cutting the cloth of, of performing artists who use their celebrity for social justice and change and that is certainly something that i

have, i have tried to emulate in his career as well. >> you indeed are apparently cut from that same cloth, levada you were asked what was your favorite scene with gossett junior? i want to play for everyone. what that was another day >> you hear me >> could be another day betsy was at powerful that was ad-libbed, that was not in the script. he says, don't you worry with that white man calls you there's going to be another day. you know who you is. you couldn't kinte. that's who you is. there's gonna be another day that was lu in the moment. as fiddler putting it down

>> you >> we found an interview where he was speaking about that very scene. i want to play for you what he had to say about it involuntarily probably one of the first times in my acting career. i couldn't i didn't have to summon up anything it just welled up and i just had to hold it. i don't know what i meant, but i think i do know what that meant because it's very important that is another day other big handcuffed to trees another day where there's no more lynching of the day when they were equal. there's going to be another day. well, we have a first black president is going to be another day. and still another de comes de, in and day out. we getting better by the de >> what's your reaction to hear him say that? >> hey, he's absolutely right. i mean, it's another i've been to the mountain moment and in culture, right? i've seen the promised land um, and, you know what having been there in that moment i can attest the fact

that he was not acting that was i mean, it was acting his off and he was channeling ancestor energy. he absolutely was he was he was that kind of actor. he was able to bring in energies from the ethers and ground them for storytelling for the people. >> you know, he in his memoir, he recounts and experience that he had perhaps this is part of the source of that summoning in some respects, he was driving in a convertible car that the studio had rented for them he gets pulled over by police and they made him lean against the car and made them open the trunk while they called the car rental agency. before letting him go. here's a quote. he said, though i understood that i had no choice but to put up with this abuse. it was a terrible way to be treated. a humiliating way to feel. >> i realized this was happening because i was black and had been showing off with a

fancy car, which in their view, i had no right to be driving now, i had come face to face with racism and it was an ugly sight but it was not going to destroy me. i mean, just hearing those words and reading his memoir and his struggles in life when during laws in his career, he struggled with drugs and alcohol at one point in time. he said that the addiction was fueled by racism throughout his career, did he ever speak to you about those moments and his life? >> we didn't talk directly about about his addictions and his demons, but it was clear to me that he was the kind of actor who could channel though those lessons into his work. he utilized those experiences in service. i just storytelling >> he was a phenomenally talented. you he was also a

folk singer. i mean, he had, there are so many dimensions to you mentioned he was an athlete right? he was an actor >> he was the singer. he he, he had depth. he had absolute, he had a deep, deep well and he used at all draw from that. >> well, if you had one more conversation, what would you say to lavazza? was it to him? love our burden >> you don't have it just makes sure that he knows how much he is loved and how much i love him and appreciate his kindness and generosity toward me he took a young kid under his wing and and made me feel welcome >> well, think of all the young children that you took under your own wing. and made them free through literacy. and beyond. >> the var burton >> thank you so much. >> thank you, laurie, right back cruciate. you

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dolly parton, classic record, jolene. that means cowboy carter is officially here and the album is currently sitting at number one on apple music, although we also do you expect, but the early reviews are calling the album quote, a masterpiece. while someone who knows a lot about making those is joining me next he is the legendary producer and three-time grammy award winner dj premier and entertainment. ian schwarzman is beside him as well. you both just standby for just one moment. i don't want to have any moment when everyone does not know the legend that i'm talking to you, i want to make sure that everyone knows just a few of the hits you are behind. so how about this? ever heard the tories big how about >> another man by the name of nods? >> he'll bless

>> or maybe a rat pioneer, krs-one >> every body. if you got what it takes because i'm tejano rest sent up on the mic and permease i made you are really happy is not america didn't i? will. those are all produced by dj premier and now premiere and schwarzman have a new independent imprint where they've got a collaboration with snoop coming out. let's get right into it. this new album has come out and you are known for mixing and blending genres and not being pigeonholed. and now you've got part two in a trilogy. the first part, renaissance was dropped two years ago, a dance album. now cowboy carter, heavy on the country, you are excited to see. so many different genres blending. what do you think about this? she can >> really do whatever she wants because she really respects to music. and she doesn't with respect, that's why it comes out so well, when the respect

parts given as an artist, i think you could tell the difference. that's why when she chooses to do that, even if she gets flagged, you're doing a country yeah. she knows and respects what it is i when we start when are jolene plan when i was a kid, it was brought dolly parton used saying that all the time so for her to do a remake, she's cut out to do without even having to try. >> you do have a new single eight is out today with numerous call. can you dig that? let's say it out for a second. >> all right? >> welcome to california >> i mean, you have worked with so many different legends. you've created legends as well. what was it like to work with snoop again? >> it's just always fun because you know, you're gonna get something good out of him. i was telling snoop you, god, bless. are both of my mom's have recently passed. my mother was 91 years old and she goes, i love snoop dogg

>> cheap. i couldn't even say about, wow, if you uba but she really under she she's like, i love when he's doing them on the steward like she picks it up, the bobs to see that there's something that she likes about them that makes it not look at him as these rap guys and other language and all that type of stuff. she did she picked picked up the same vowed that makes air like who does not like snoop, who doesn't know snow? >> yeah. >> it's anyone who doesn't know who snoop dogg is. yeah. >> i mean, i'm sorry to someone who is buried in a cave for the last 30, 40 years when he hasn't everyone else. i don't know who they might be, but you make a really important point that the idea that there are some artists who refuse to be or were never able to stay and rejected the pigeonhole, right? and they are very quote-unquote mainstream. a lot of crossover appeal. everyone knows who they are one in particular happened to have a heck of a week this week and it's a dethie and you all both

know that his homes were rated in connection with what is said to be federal sex trafficking allegations. there has been so many pieces written just as week alone about what impact if true. and of course he has not been charged. he's there is no crime that he has been alleged to have committed. that has been indicted or otherwise. but the legacies are already being debated. what this would do based on his widespread appeal as an artist, have either of you thought about what this moment is felt like hearing this news >> i mean i don't like to take the stance ever speculating because i think it just leaves you looking domini end. but i also believed that his musical legacy is his musical legacy for me personally, i never had to close enough personal relationship with him to ever know what he was doing or not doing personally? so it's hard to make any comments or

speculate on any of the allegations you're seeing today but in terms of his music here, but in terms of his music, it's, it's hard to argue or debate the legacy that he left behind yeah. and >> for the fact that i've worked with biggie on both viz phase. first three albums, even the one after he passed on, which was born again, that we all put together. he's always let let let me be me as a producer and never gotten away when i did my job and then on top of that, the music legacy is just so vast that who's not going to party and still enjoy the music. and as far as what's going on, as far as the allegations were still in, i guess movie mode, we're watching it in and then when the credits roll is going to be like, what did you think once everything's completely ended, but the ending, it has not gotten here yet. so we're just watching just like anybody else's you came up in an era, dj premier, where everyone was battling to be the best mc and the competition to see who was

the best was a healthy one and did change at a certain 0.2 to become toxic. and violent. and at times, even deadly. there has been some new in the music world this week, there's a beef that's brune between say, drake and kendrick lamar, j cole kendrick lamar saying that he's number one, try to take that particular spot how do you feel about these new battles? healthier, not >> healthy it's been that way since day one, especially even an ai era before the internet and all of that, people would come to the neighborhood and go you songs. i want a battle you, and you'd be like where he's, he's up the block and you would actually go to them like a fight just a battle. and it derives from that because there's always a competitive thing. i ll cool j did it with hammer and ice tea and cool modi and jay-z and nods is one of them most enormous battles ever. and no one got hurt. it, even though the outside world would add extra salt and pepper on it to make it look like

it's it's way worse than what it seems, but it's always been kept music. >> and i'm laura i have a question for you battle and hip hop is the competition element but don't you think there's a sense of battling between you and other programs on cnn for ratings. it's similar to that, like you guys, i'm the best. there's no to meet up the bladder right now >> what do we see don't know, you're talking about are their broadcast. this is that ever happened from show to show >> either other shows >> i don't think there are you saving i liked that? >> i liked that turned that let's just end it there i get my thank you. sweat the new site new it's called can you dig that? make sure you go check it out. thanks so much >> faith >> you all for watching. i know

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