black man to win an oscar for a supporting role. it was for his performance in an officer and a gentleman >> what did you call me boy he called you sorry for that i didn't call you anything before that. he said, how are you? >> i >> am not a you boy. are you as a female? now she bought that. what do you think? i >> am boy? no >> no. >> no, sir >> gaza continued to act well into his '80s last year co-starring in the color purple and a few years before that, he was nominated for his eighth and final me in the hbo series watchmen back in 2010, gossett was diagnosed with prostate cancer. and when public with the news to set an example because of what he called the relatively low emphasis on prevention and treatment within the black community. may he rest in peace? and as we say, may his memory be a blessing? thanks very much for watching.

i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room. the news continues on cnn right now >> tonight on 360 breaking news involving former president trump's criminal trials, including a new file eight about limiting his repeated attacks on, uh, judges, daughter, who has no connection to the trial at all. also, tonight, pushback on the former president's law and order comments at the wake of a fallen police officer were joined by the brother of brian signal, the capital police officer who died after being assaulted during the january 6 attacks and later, exactly one year after russia wrongfully detained a wall street journal reporter, a talk with the sister of evan gershkovich >> good evening. i'm jim sciutto in for anderson to breaking developments in foreign revolving former president trump's criminal trials this evening first is whether the former president can continue his harassment of

the daughter of the judge overseeing his hush money trial. a woman with no actual connection to the case, whom trump has falsely accused of attacking him tonight, the manhattan da's office has asked the judge to confirm that she is covered by a gag order issued on tuesday. trump's team indicates they may file a challenge to what they claim would be an expansion of that order. kara scannell joins us now with the latest qarrah. can you first remind people? exactly what trump has been saying about and how he's been attacking the judges daughter >> as he said, a gag order was imposed on tuesday and immediately the next day, donald trump began making posts about the judge and his daughter in one of those posts, trump was saying that the judge was compromised. he also called out the judges daughter by her name and he was saying that she was working for a demo chronic operatives. and isn't trump

hating person. now, she has worked. he doesn't work for an organization that does do work with democratic campaigns but he also made comments about about her and one of his statements that she was that she had posted a photo of him behind bars on a twitter account. now, spokesman for the court said that that was not her twitter account. she had deleted it more than a year ago, so it's unclear who was making these posts, but those were some of the statements that trump has made about the judge and his daughter, jim i wonder how trump's lawyers are defending his attacks on a sitting judges. daughter, are they >> well they're saying that they're not covered by the gag order. remember this gag order said that trump couldn't make comments about potential witnesses, about jurors, about the prosecutor there isn't the case or court staff or members of the prosecutors families, or the courts staffs, families. but specifically the judge did not cover himself by this gag order. for the district attorney, alvin bragg's. now

prosecutors are asking the judge to step in here. they say in a letter to the judge, the people believed that the march 26 order is properly read to protect family members of the court, but to avoid any doubt, this court should now clarify or confirm that the order protects family members of the court, the district attorney, and other individuals mentioned in the order. now, trump's team is pushing back saying that it's clear that this gag order does not include them and they write to the judge, to confirm or clarify the meaning of the gag order in the way people suggest would be to expand it. and so they're saying to the judge, if you are going to consider this, the people's the district attorney's, finally, they want an opportunity to respond in legal briefs to challenge this because they're point is that donald trump has not violated this gag order. gym joe, is there any sense knowing judge merchant of what the judge is likely to do here and over what time span will the judge >> hasn't made any comments since he issued this gag order

and since trump has made those posts? are getting him and his daughter on social media. now he's not expected to rule today or this weekend. he may weigh in early next week decide whether or not to let the prosecutors in a sense, have another chance to ask him to define the gag order but we're just about two weeks away from trial. so we'll see if the judge decides to weigh in, and i think we'll also wait to see if donald trump can continues be statements over the weekend while they're waiting for the judge to say what he's going to do. jim >> we should say they're out there. the attacks are out there now already, kara scannell, thanks so much. i'm joined now by former us district judge, shira shied lynn and former trump campaign adviser david urban. thanks so much for taking the time this evening to join us, judge, first this is a pattern with the former president, president, and a whole host of trials that he's been involved in, as well as other public attacks on people that get on his wrong side. and we know that oftentimes times that public rhetoric is followed by

genuine threats to the safety of those people that had been targeted. i want to ask you, as a member of the legal profession, as a judge the significance of a public attack like this on a judge presiding over a case, and that judges family yes. well, that's exactly the danger here. if you're going to name the person and the person can be found that person is at risk and there have been violent attacks on judges and their families over the years one of the judges from the southern district was murdered. a judge in new jersey. her son was murdered, judge in chicago lost family members. so the threats are real and we know that trump's followers occasionally, we'll turn to threats and sent threatening letters to georgia and garan and his family and his law clerk so these threats could be real, and that's serious of how does it affect a judge well, a judge knows that they're in a high-profile case

and they can get protection if they need it and your family can get protection if they need it. but a judge does their job and i'm sure judge merchant will continue to do what he's doing so david, you know, this is a pattern, it's part of the public record. you know what extends beyond members of the court. we see it against lawmakers, health officials, and often their children as well. and often those people, they have to hire private security, right? because of those threats do you defend this? how do you how do you defend this and why does this continue yes. >> yes. so jim, listen, nobody wants to see anybody put a risk, right? obviously, nobody wants to see judges. prosecutors, political enemies. no one wants to be put at risk. >> and i >> i think that's a big leap from political rhetoric too. to threats. and in this case what the former president calling out, we saw political rhetoric on january 6 in an attack on the capital. i know, i know people have been targeted threats who now have secret

service details all right. >> so let's just stick to this faq case, right? the fact pattern in front of us. >> what >> the former president was doing was calling out a judge who he thinks is incredibly partisan. look, this case that is being brought was passed over for years by the southern district of new york is being full whole. they didn't want when to bring the case. it was so bad >> alvin, daughter, david or but it has to do with that >> i will tell you, jim, let me get let me get there. okay. let me finish. so it's a very political case brought by a political prosecutor and the point that the former president is making is that the judge is a political animal himself giving money daughter >> i love you well enough to let me finish. you know, the trouble these assertions often based on nothing he claims political partisanship because maybe someone made a donation years big-o years ago and you know that these attacks are not just related to claims about

the partisanship above a judge, they they extend to lawmakers, to journalists, to health care to health care officials like dr. fouchier. so i'm asking you just as someone who i know has reserved for law and order, whether you could defend it. >> i'm not defending it. so i'm not what i'm saying is the former president is pointing out the judge marshalls daughter is a political activist. she is a partisan political activist. she works for the biden harris campaign. other she works for adam schiff of kamala harris. has no role gym. i understand. he's trying to point out that they he's i'm sure these trying to say the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. if she's a progressive liberal democrat, i'm guessing judges progressive. that's the point he's trying to make here. jim, i don't think he's trying to threaten anybody. i'll try to put anybody's life at jeopardy. he tried to put out that he's not going to get it know the city >> you >> know, the effects of that rhetoric and what it often leads people to do that that's the point, judge. i wonder if you have a reaction when he

attack the fbi, there were people who went into an fbi office with guns. so you just don't know what the result is of putting a family member in the crosshairs of some of his followers. it's not that he's going to go out and hurt anybody. but you never know what the followers might do and they've done it. so there's a real risk here to her. she's not the judge. she's a family member. yes. you're absolutely right. she works for a company she owns a company authentic campaigns. it's called she has worked for the people you said. so she's a progressive liberal. i understand that, but she's not the judge. she's the judges daughter once removed. i mean, it's just not getting it all family for your owner >> your honor. >> all i'm trying to point up to simply trying to make is the president is tried to a good point that the case that was brought is unfair and he's not going to get a fair trial in front of a partisan judge. that is what i suppose he's trying >> and lauren merchant out of

it. >> he can say that the difference is the canceling out >> yeah. >> right. make the case about the case. right. not about individuals and make personal attacks about individuals and their family members, as you know, david, you'll often hear from republicans about if, if they hear a tax or criticism that involve the family members of republican lawmakers acreage, you will hear outrage, understandable outrage, and i imagine that somebody, it's not a family man like yourself that you think goes beyond the pale? yeah, jim, i don't i don't i don't advocate anybody attack in anybody's kids, whether they're adult kids, their young kids, just it's kind of off limits. i think what the president can point out though, is that he doesn't think he's gonna get a fair shake here. and who's trying to illustrate that by loren martians, political activism >> but that's the problem >> if he wants >> to attack the judge, the judge said, go ahead. i'm not part of the gag or you can attack me. i'm i'm strong. i can take it. okay. judge, expects to be in the public eye, but nobody said go after the judge's daughter. it's

wrong. let's be honest. >> we should note tonight that the president posted the former president of the social media picture of the back of a pickup truck that had a image of joe biden gagged and bound. i mean, the point the point is about the broader contribution the conversation, but it's good to have both at the gym. yeah. i was gonna say i agree with you. we got to elevate the discourse that america here you go. we'll do our best. thank you for having me judge. david urban. thanks so much above you >> now to the former president's latest attempt to delay his election interference trial in the state of georgia, two weeks to the day after a judge refused to disqualify the da fani willis, despite severe criticism surrounding her relationship with the cases, then special prosecutor trump in several other defendants have filed their appeal. now of that decision, they demanded appeals court not only disqualify willis, but her entire office. nick valencia, joins us now from atlanta with the details. nick, what exactly

are former president trump and his co-defendants claiming? >> in >> this appeal >> well, first we knew this was coming because judge scott mcafee granted as certificate for immediate review, but now it's official. and in this filing, where am a former president trump and eight of his remaining 14 co-defendants, including his former chief of staff, mark meadows, and his former attorney, rudy giuliani. they're making the case to a georgia appellate court two again, and remove fani willis from this case. and here's what they're saying. and part of the filing which is just downright scathing, de a willis has covered herself and her office in scandal and disrepute the trial court's decision not to disqualify de a willis under these circumstances is a structural error, a violation of the defendants due process rights and seriously denigrate the public's confidence in the integrity of the criminal justice system. look, we did reach out to the da's office. they declined to comment. we could only anticipate a very pointed response from de a willis, a source with knowledge of this process says the georgia appellate court will have 45 days to make its decision. jim what had the da

previously said about the possibility of appeal and i wonder, as you're as you're answering the rest of the trial procedures continue as this is being considered, correct >> that's right. this is an interlocutory appeal which means the case can proceed forward while the georgia appeals course ways whether they're not they're going to take this on, but you bring up a great question and we caught up with fani willis at a recent easter weekend event. we asked her about this appeals process and this disqualified the cation effort that's still hangs over her head and the case, this is what she had to say >> the first step is really to wait to see if the court of appeals will, even here the issue at all. and so that's the stance that we're in but the great news is that doesn't slow anything down because while that's going on, all those motions i discussed they'll still being being hard. they'll still be being resolved. we'll still be working >> well, it says despite these delay tactics from trump and his remaining co-defendants at the train is coming and they

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don't wait- call today. mutual physicians mutual i'm zachary cohen in washington and this is cnn >> last night, president biden and former president obama and clinton held a star-studded fundraiser at radio city music hall in new york. during the event, they talked about former president trump as a threat to democracy meanwhile, trump

attended the wake of slain nypd officer jonathan diller outside the city on new york's long island. trump's campaign said he was moved by the invitation to attend, but critics say it sounded like he took the opportunity to score political points the police are the greatest people we have this nothing and there's nobody liked them. and this should never happen. we have to stop it. we have to get back to law and order. we have to do a lot of things differently because this is not working. this is happening too often >> well, the family of brian's sickness, a capital police officer who was attacked on january 6 and died the very next day, did not take silence and trump voicing support for law enforcement quite the opposite. officer's sick next brother, kenneth joins me now. can thanks so much for taking the time tonight >> thank you for having me on >> i wonder what your response was to hear the former president talk about lawn order after attending the wake of the officer diller he's he's he

just the fires logic it's obvious al and let me get this out there that myself, my family, we really do take off their dealers, death to heart. we've met a lot of officers that are officers, families that have died in the line of duty. and it's it's not it's not something to play with. however, that's exactly what trump is doing. i realized he was invited to invited by the family. but it's it's he's doing it for for publicity like like he does everything. he shows up in court when he doesn't have to go civil trials when he was showing up and you don't have to attend a civil trial, but he showed up just to make a scene. >> you should know two our viewers you were lifelong republican until the gop blocked an independent commission to investigate the events of january 6. i wonder,

how do you think the former president is able to square his attempts to define themselves as a law and order candidate with the events of that de and his involvement in those events >> well, he'll will he want admit his involvement in those events thus, he doesn't have to put himself in that same category is holding up one order every time somebody tries to hold him accountable, he skirts it. you just throws >> there was lots of money on it at it and skirts, whatever court cases that he's going to be involved. and i think the first very first criminal cases coming up, but the other ones he's been he's been delaying and delaying and delaying anybody who's been following him on his coattails goes down in flames. rudy giuliani you might have, you might not even have a place to live soon >> it's just

>> he born order for everybody except for him because we all know that he's even appealing with the supreme court right now that president is above the law. >> one notable thing is that he's now celebrated the events of january 6. he is talking about pardoning those who are convicted of crimes related to the january 6 insurrection. he's he's calling them hostages at his rallies. he plays a recording of the january six defendants singing the star-spangled banner >> i wonder >> how you react when you see the president celebrating that de, not, not even running away from it, but now celebrating it he's disgusting, but i know i'm not going to change anybody's mind by the way, the video that came out along with those people singing, the national anthem, the personal picks up the phone on a president is the very same person who assaulted my brother really >> that's amazing. the same person tell us about the impact

of seeing that. i know that day must still weigh on you and your family. you got a picture of your brother behind you there? >> so how do you feel when you see that? when you see the person who attacked him celebrated in such a way helpless. >> i mean, he's donald trump. so unless i have million dollars to go after him to do something it's and i'm not going to change anybody's mind. the people that support donald trump for whatever reason, aren't going to change your mind, whether you give them facts while comedians on the daily show, jordan klepper will routinely go to trump rallies and one point here who's doing interviews and you tell people all these bad things that president biden was doing. and then the reporter would say oh, i'm sorry, i'm mistaken. i meant donald trump. and the

people that they're speaking to completely flipped their stories and defendant trump until the the with whatever things they can think of that allah wasn't his fault or he didn't mean to do it that way. so it's there's no changing minds of the people that are already lined up behind him. >> well, let me ask you this then if there's no changing minds, if you had a moment to interact with them, what would you say to them in a word, in a sentence >> what i tried i tried to talk reason. i mean, that's it's being emotional, doesn't help us facts, but apparently that doesn't help either because i have conversations with people that i'm friends with that are still have doubts about what happened on january 6, and they refuse to watch anything. all i'm not going to watch the january 6 testimony because that's all rigged well, i'm not going to do this because it's all rigged so they've bury their heads in sand and believe what they're told on

alex jones and other advisors podcast and they don't they won't hear anything else. they won't sit back and go. oh, let that makes sense. so really that did happen so it's, it's frustrating knowing that with the division with the tribal isn't going on. it's really hard to change hearts and minds >> well, it's got be heartbreaking for you and your family to kenneth sick nika. thank you for coming on and we do wish you and your family the very best >> thank you, jim >> now, to see in an exclusive republican congressman brought byron donalds, has become such an ardent supporter of the former president. the trump says he is now on his vp shortlist, but see you in an has learned donalds wasn't always a supporter of the form and former president quite the opposite. back in 2011, donalds celebrated trump's decision not to run against then

president barack obama, quote, trump won't run. thank god, donalds said, our senior editor for the kfile investigative team, andrew kaczynski, job just now with more so andrew, tell us what you found. >> that's right. donalds is a trump loyalist and one of the former president's most trusted advisers. but during his time as a tea party candidate and activists, more than a decade ago, donalds was very critical of the former president. he strongly can those birth or claims from trump in 2011 about barack obama, khin pairing it in facebook post, two democrats that believed the bush administration had orchestrated the 911 attacks and in post at the time, he called them a quote self-promoter, yelling about 25% tariffs on china. and a quote huge distraction. who cares more about himself than the country in my opinion >> and we showed based on the reporting, he didn't just criticize trump. he criticized a lot of trump's core policy

ideas >> yeah, that's also right donalds with staunchly opposed to tariffs and trade restrictions during those tea party years. and that failed run for congress. he actually said, when he was co-hosting a radio show that we shouldn't be manufacturing things in the united states. he actually studied michigan. he said we should be making them in china because there'll be cheaper for consumers and that's obviously something that is so incredibly different from what trump is saying now. but it really wasn't just trade donalds supported raising the retirement age, the privatization of both social security and medicare. and that's when democrats were disparaging republicans for their medicare plans. they were saying you a turn it into a voucher system. but unlike most republicans, donalds actually in that negative term. from democrats. take a listen here >> when it comes to medicare reform. i think what paul ryan's i started to say is correct. >> we do have to go to two up to a payment subsidized system

where we give that voucher if they want to call it, i'm not afraid to call it a voucher. that's exactly what it's going to a voucher to that person, to that person who was on medicare. here is the amount of dollars we have allocated towards ignite. it is your responsibility to allocate those dollars effectively so jim, we did reach out to donalds office to ask how do you square what he was saying then with what he saying today? and they told cnn in a statement, quote, president trump is considering byron as his running mate because of the congressman's steadfast support for the 45th president and his historic policy we'll see agenda, the fact that these decades old posts are now resurfacing in the middle of running mate deliberations is weak, but typical cnn, so it's gonna be interesting for all of us to see how those comments and what he said then plays into trump's vp considerations >> and of course, no denial in that statement. either andrew kaczynski, great reporting. thanks so much i'm coming up

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that's blocking ships from entering or exiting the port of baltimore. >> there is a massive steel truss bridge going across that channel. and at the bottom 50 feet down at the bottom, there's also concrete. possibly some containers, other debris that we have to get off the floor, but it's a delicate operation, is going to be a monumental task. this is going to be piecemeal section by section, piece by piece until they can estimate the entire area. >> dr.. oscar barton is the dean morgan state university's engineering school and was a professor at the naval academy for 21 years. what would you be most worried about if you were supervising the crane and this entire operation going too fast, meeting the expectations of the public to move to quickly. we've got to be very methodical, very slow, and very precise and getting and stuff the chesapeake 1,000 arrived this morning, but that section >> of bridge, that straight over the front of the vessel, that portion of bridge alone ways 4,000 tons. my most

capable crane there is 1,000 times. so we're at least going to cut that into four members, a major complicating factor for cruz trying to break up the rest package in manageable chunks, light >> magen tried to do that 50 feet down in the dark with a diving suit on and we've got to do the same level of analysis on the bottom of that channel as we have to do for those members that are out of the water and the cleanup work itself poses risks to the crane operators, divers, and crew. it is dangerous. there could be tipping of the crane. so the balancing of the crane is most important >> meanwhile, the national transportation safety board is continuing its review. the ntsb shared video with cnn showing ntsb and coast guard investigators moving around on the bow of the dali right at the point of impact? the closest view we've gotten so far of the shear devastation of this disaster. >> so >> when will the channel be open to shipping traffic? i >> don't think we're talking days. i don't think we're talking months. once we get started, i think we're talking weeks brian even talking to one

of the top commanders of the army corps of engineers who is actually taking part in the operation. i wonder what he told you about how dangerous this will all be. >> well, jim, a general scott spellmon of the army corps of engineers told us that the metal, the constitution of the metal at the wreckage site is like a rubber band. when you cut it, it doesn't just fall straight down. he says, when they could have large chunks of metal that snap when they cut it and whip around like a rubber band and that could really be lethal. that's one of the many dangerous that the salvador's are facing. jim. >> wow, that's, that's that sounds scary. no question, bryan todd, thanks so much for joining us now is former fbi special agent bobby to cone? while at the bureau, he served as team leader of the new york dive team. bobby good to have you on tonight >> thanks, jim >> so now that we have the cranes on site along with the tugboats, the barges, all these pieces, the salvage salvage vessels? where does the salvage crews began in all this >> i think they begin by taking

very detailed sonar imaging of the underwater environment that they're gonna be working in. so there's sonar will give them a very good idea of the shape, the size, and the position of a lot of that debris down there. and it'll give them a sense of how much they have to cut and where they should start, what's the first thing they should start lifting off the bottom. so it's detailed sonar imaging that they have to start reviewing before they ever get in the water you heard brian todd describing that kind of rubber band effect as, as you begin to cut some of this metal to get through i wonder how >> divers and the teams will manage a challenge like that among what i'm sure many challenges yeah. so that twisted metal as he described, is under tension because it's a gerta that's twisted and now something's laying on it, so it's under tension. the minute you cut that, that tension is released and you have movement and that can be extremely dangerous. so what they're going to be looking at in those images, though sonar images. and then once the first divers

get down there and start giving a bottom report backup topside is to see where things might be under tension and they'll try to deal with that as best they can you know, you have to relieve that tension somehow. so there's, there's there's incremental cutting of it that you can start to release some of that tension without it going old off at once. >> got it >> you're describing that coordination there. i wonder how they communicate coordinate to help the divers in their piece of the job, to make it safe and to get through this yeah coordination is everything. and when i lead my team to minneapolis on the i35 bridge collapse in 2007, we work hand in hand with the army corps of engineers and navy salvage divers. we did a lot of sonar work. >> it's the >> engineers, the only corps, the private contractors who are putting divers in the water. it's so one of your earlier guests said, it's taking your time and moving slow. there's no reason to rush this right now because that's where the

danger lies. if you rush it, mistakes can happen. things can be missed and people could get hurt the governor of maryland was asked how long it would take to complete the cleanup. he wouldn't commit to a specific timeline. i wonder. can you give us a sense? i mean, are we talking months, years? what's your what's your best guess? >> i think it will it'll depend on how much resources they throw out at you saw the one big crane that they have in place. now, can they get more cranes, moore crews, and can they start like divvying up the work and can they do more? >> at >> more than one thing at a time and that depends on how much resources they have available. so you can be looking at anywhere from weeks to months to six to eight months on the short-side, probably two to three months, maybe shorter if they can get additional crews in there. that's just to open the shipping lane. >> two to recover all that debris is going to be a lot longer during that rebuilding. of course, a lot longer than that. i wonder because you still have missing bodies in

here. how they balanced the divers will be involved in that, how they balanced that search. of course, extremely important to the families with the larger work of cleaning it all up yeah. >> well, you have two separate operations going on, so they probably have a very narrow area where they think the bodies are likely to be the navy divers hopefully will be operating or have been operating in that area. if the navy divers withdrawal than another commercial team should go into that area and just and just still treat it as a recovery while other teams are working on other parts of the debris removal. so they have a very narrow area where they think the bodies might be hopefully, they should have that yeah. >> let's hope those families get that relief at some point, bobby ciccone. thanks so much for joining tonight >> thanks, jim. thanks. pertain. >> in russia for a full year. now is the us any closer to freeing journalist evan gershkovich, you're going to hear from his sister when 360 continues?

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what do want us to do? >> this time? journalists weren't even allowed in. is that attention of the wall street journal reporter on espionage charges was extended for another three months outside us ambassador marked a bleak anniversary this verdict to further prolonged evans detention feels particularly painful as this week marks. the one-year anniversary since ever and was arrested and wrongfully detained in your catherine berg for simply doing his job as a journalist >> the >> accusations against evan are kept categorically untrue they are not a different interpretation of circumstances they are fiction but incarceration behind the walls of the fault of oh, prison in moscow is a grim fact. us officials say they're negotiating with moscow for his release. even the kremlin

confirmed this week contacts on a prisoner swap a continuing for the russian president, the 32 year-old american newspaper reporter is a tradable asset >> we're willing to solve it but there are certain terms being discussed. the via special services channels i believe an agreement can be reached >> and this is who putin has hinted he wants in return vadim krasikov, a russian operative, jailed in germany for killing a chechen dissident in a public park. so far the germans have been reluctant to set him free. but the kremlin knows painful agreements have been reached in the past in 2022, us basketball star brittney griner, convicted of possessing cannabis in russia, was swapped for victor boot and the tourists russian arms trafficker >> i want to tell the world that i'm a victim of political kidnap and random russia is also holding other americans

among them former us marine paul whelan convicted of espionage and jailed since 2018. us officials have designated whelan and gershkovich as unlawfully detained if the kremlin has any desire to salvage russia's integrity and international esteem. they should do what is right and release evan and paul matthew chance joins us now from saints saint petersburg in russia i just wonder mathieu, if you could put into context how difficult the trade is that the russians are looking for. if the us is trying to convince germany the release someone who committed murder on german soil in order to get an american journalists back. i mean, is that a trade that germany is likely to agree to? >> well, it's a trade that so far the germans had not agreed to i mean, dayton for them, it's politically understandably very difficult to release a convicted murderer

fought for an american journalist. they also think the germans that it send the wrong message to the kremlin to show the russians that this kind of trade is something that might be something they'd be able to do in the future as well. and so look, i mean, it hinges on the germans exceeding to the us demands. and talk. so i expect underway in that regard. but at the moment, as we've seen, the deal has not been done and the germans are holding vadim krasikov still behind bars in their country >> and listen and russia and other countries continue to take more hostages. it seems matthew chance in russia, thanks so much. earlier this week, evan gershkovich, his sister, danielle, spoke with anderson. here's their conversation >> danielle, the last time that we spoke, you mentioned that you were able to exchange letters with evin about once a week. is that still the case? i mean, can you communicate with him? >> yes. it is about once a week

still. and they're an absolute lifeline for me. it's the one way i get to communicate with my brother. >> what what are his letters likes. i know you said more than once he has a great sense of humor. i mean, does he? >> actually joke in these >> letters or what have you learned from him >> i'm smiling because i'm just thinking about his sense of humor and i would say recently i'm going to be moving and he wanted to know is there a good size guest bedroom for him? so we're really can't wait for him to come home and spend time together. and i need to get the guest bedroom ready for him. >> do you do you allow yourself to hope in that way? >> yes >> it's really, >> really important to stay optimistic. we have to stay strong for evan and it's. it's hard not, not to have a fantasy

about the de, the he does come home >> i want to read a part of an op-ed that you wrote for their philadelphia inquirer. you wrote for me. this will always be about my brother, but i've grown to understand that evans arrest means much more than that. his arrest was a shock to the global community of journalists and a blow to a free press without reporters like him on the ground in russia, we know even less about a country whose foreign policy directly affects america. and all americans >> evans work was incredibly >> important to him. and can you just talk a little bit about about that? what he would say about it and the impact that you think is workout on readers haven't was genuinely interested in russia and all of it in the culture and the language and the people. the history he was always coming from a place of hey, especially people. he he just enjoyed learning more about it and i think he he really wanted to

bring the truth as well. it was his absolute passion to be able to travel all across russia and be able to speak to people about so many topics. >> i know there's obviously limitations and what you could talk about, but can you say anything about whether or not your families receive any updates from the state department or the biden administration on on just the status of any negotiations to secure evans released or if there are any unfortunately, the case is opaque and we just have to continue to trust >> that though white house is taking this very seriously and there's a team of experts working on this so we just have to continue to put our faith and president biden's promised her family. we just have to keep moving forward. >> the wall street journal held a 24 hour read-a-thon. they're calling it which is streamed on

youtube or friends and family and fellow journalists read from, from, from evans, work is there anything else that you think might help to keep evans name and his detention to the public eye because that's gotta be one of the things that so i mean, obviously you don't want people to forget, given all that's going on in the world that he is detained and keeping that it front and centers. i mean, that's it's hard absolutely. we're so >> grateful for the wall street journal's efforts for the us government's efforts, and this incredible tribal community of journalists who are doing everything they can to help evan evans reporting is available to read online for free. great. at wall street journal.com, i believe that's wsj.com. and just getting to know more about evan and what a fantastic reporter he is. and just wouldn't amazing genuine person. he is. there's also a

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