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bloodbath. that is new immigration branding from former president donald trump, who was back on the campaign trail yesterday in michigan and wisconsin. trump, who we should note was the first president to disrupt the hallowed american democratic tradition of a peaceful transfer of power making this claim i'm here tonight to declare that joe biden's border bloodbath. remember they used the name lead beth, i was talking about something entirely different, but this is a border bloodbath ends the day. i take the oath of office. if we don't win this may be the last election, not country ever has. and there could be that's where we're going because joe biden is a threat to democracy. he's the threat to democracy he's a threat to democracy. >> a bloodbath >> language, of course, came from donald trump's mouth when he warned about the consequences for the auto industry and the country if he were to lose the election, let's watch that we're going

to put a 100% tariff on every single car that comes across the line and you're not going to be able to sell those guys. if i get elected now, if i don't get elected, it's going to be a bloodbath for the whole that's gonna be the least of it. it's going to be a bloodbath for the country that'll be the least of it. but they're not going to sell those cars okay. >> are panels here. let's bring into lu oleh run at the white house bureauhief for the washingt post republican strategist m mormon and carrying finish. she iformer senior adviser to llary clinton's 2016 presidential campaign. >> good morning. >> to all of you on that cheery note that gorman, let me start with you because look, this is a thing that donald trump does regularly tries to basically take some criticism of him, flip it around on a ted, use it to his own advantage. he's also trying to do that. he's he's doing that in both places, right? both a bloodbath language and trying to say joe biden is a threat to democracy we've, got two things going

on. one, an issue, immigration where republicans do have strength, but to them trying to flip this messaging about democracy on its head like swing voters do not buy that. we see in the polling. what do you make of how he was campaigning yesterday and whether he is in the space that he needs to be if they the space is campaign advisers want him to be, let me put it this >> is working. i mean, you saw the wall street journal showing ways a five out of six or six out of seven swing states. he has a lead above. >> yeah, we can actually show everybody. yes. >> me. look, it is working and look. >> this is a tactic we've >> seen for decades and politics, right? take a weakness or perceived weakness, try and turn it again. it's your opponent turn into a strength. and so i think that's what he's doing here and we saw this in 2022 as well. it, democracy is kind of a broad bucket. it's kinda of what i view and i think a lot of other folks view as not solely owned by one party or the other is when someone when usually the base of our party feels so strongly about where the country is going, that the

threat of the country can end some look i get where you're going with that. but i guess i just keep coming back to january 6 and the actual transfer of power, >> my point is that when we look, we see democracy as one of the top issues. it's not all democrats is not all coming from the left point of view. i cannot tell you how many people you come across an iowa, new hampshire, who also look at democracy or the country possibly ending from the other side of the >> so that's the one that's >> that's what my it's my point. okay >> he's trying to >> co-opt it >> with those people, but at the same time, i mean, the polling dosha oh that anymore when you get underneath just the top lines voters trust democrats more on this issues because they, they do see trump as someone who is working to undermine many layers of our democracy. the other thing i want to just point out about immigration is that first of all, i'm a little skeptical. public pools bull's i come by it honestly, if they all were

true, i would be in the middle of a second hillary clinton term, which were not so fair enough >> and >> reproductive freedom, what not have been a winning issue in 2022, but when you get underneath the hood and you ask people why they're upset about immigration. they don't actually blamed biden. they actually blame republicans. they have gotten the message that republicans were the ones who walked away from a deal, doesn't mean they're happy about it. >> but i >> think we saw a similar thing in 2022 where people were saying, yes, the economy is a top issue, but you had to go deeper and say, why? i think we always have to remember that the polling is the what, but the why is where the campaigns are run. >> you listen to the rhetoric coming from both sides. it's clear they are both seeing this as a base election. they want to rally up their faith by for lack of a better word, scaring them. you hear president biden talk about how democracy is on the ballot if trump wins democracy could potentially go

by the wayside. you hear trump using similar language while also calling for a bloodbath if he doesn't win the election. and so they're trying to rally their base by focusing on the negatives of the other side as opposed to talking about why people should vote for them in the first place, clear that they think that this is the base elections, although i will say that the biden administration's willingness to go as conservative as they did in that border compromise, the republican sank does say that democrats acknowledged the sort of vulnerability they haven't immigration. i also want to show you something else that the former president said on the campaign trail yesterday about hoda unquote suburban housewives watch you know, the suburban housewives is actually like donald trump, you know why? because i'm the one that's going to keep them safe. they just say well, to suburban housewives, i don't know. i think i do great with the suburban housewives because they want to remain safe >> so let's just say up front that the polling shows that the quote unquote super been housewives, women in the suburbs of america definitely seemed to have a problem with

donald trump. if you ask mitch mcconnell, that's why they keep losing senate elections and key states like georgia. >> but >> karen, i will say that his point about women voters being concerned about crime is something that's cylinder lake, who is a biden pollster she had this to say it in political yesterday. she's to quote, voters are definitely feeling crime is increasing. and i think you have a combination of increased shootings, increased media coverage of crime increased petty crime, post-covid, that is really unnerving to voters, particularly women voters. she is actually saying the same thing as donald trump. they both, right? yeah. i may have talked to her about this. look, i think part when we sit here from washington, dc and this was something that really giuliani did very well when he first became mayor of new york city. what did he do? he got rid of he focused on petty crime because immediately if you can, we'll a broken window theory. so the squeegee guys and panhandling, things that just when you're walking down the street make you feel safer i mean, the murder rates are down, but the pet, but if feels

more like if you can't go into a cvs without everything being behind the cupboard where you have to get someone to open, you're going to feel less safe. so i think that that's where the rubber meets the road and that's bigger than whether president can handle that's about mayors, that's about policing on the streets. it's about i mean, there's about a lot more thing. it's a >> like look, i'll be honest, i'm getting he gotta do see a mood, virginia, and it was broader than purely crime. it is also looking at what people pay in rent. will we be people can cost of living and looking at the return on their services. and i think that is a little bit more from a technical argument, but it's one nonetheless, i think that i think people look at two. yeah. >> well, i mean, i think that that cylinder really gets at the point here that it is the perception of what's going on. because obviously we can note that crime is down across the country. it is up here in washington, dc. we see that it being up in new york you have young, young adult children living in those cities. you're worried about them. it's something that i clearly, we've got everyone agreeing. this is

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the white house how did we canceled and replaced with a policy discussion because it invited attendees did not feel comfortable breaking bread while over 1 million palestinians are starving in gaza. both president biden and vice president harris were in attendance. >> one >> palestinian american doctor walked out before the meeting ended. here's his reasoning. >> we are not satisfied with what has taken place. there has been no concrete steps but keep in mind, we're very concerned about the people that are over in the gaza strip that are in palestine right now, who are not just starving, but are facing the threat of a looming refer, invasion and so i was able to share that with the president and let him know that out of respect for my community, out of respect for all of the people who have suffered and what have been killed in the process. i need to walk out of the meeting and i want to walk out with decision-makers and let them know what it feels like for somebody to say something and then walk away from them and not hear them out and not here. there once i turned in the panel, cnn senior white house

reporter betsy klein betsy, this really kind of a crystallization of the anger that palestinians americans, and supporters, many young people in the feel towards the administration around this issue.hawas the white house at reaction and the bend the scenes texture here? >> yh. so were in e middle of ramadan. is the holiest month of the muslim calendar. and every year the biden administration has done something to commerate that last year, hosting 350 peopl for a celebratorreceptn viously this year, there is this feeling that they couldn't have that kind of a lebration. they needed to scale it bacand they ended up having plansor an iftar dier to break the fast wita small group of muslim mmunity leaderand it became clear to the white house in the course of my reporting with my colleague, alex marquardt and kahlil abdulh but there just wa't an appetite to have a dinner, to break bread at the white house when so many people in gaza are on the brink of

starvation and so the white house canceled that plan to have the iftar dinner and scaled it back instead to have this much smaller listening session with the president, the vice president, the national security advisor, and other top officis and it just it didn't goplanned as you mentioned, ispoke with dr. thaer ahmad. he is a palestinian americ doctor from chicago. he has spent time in gaza, one of the hospitals israel's. and he really f described in great detail that devastatiothat he has witnessed the patient's he is taken care of who are dying in who are injured, and also who are displaced and he made clear at the end of that that he fell out of respect for his palestinian american community. he was the only palestinian american invited that he needed to leave and walk ouof the meeting. and predent biden understand why you're doing this. and before or he left, he hand him a letter from an eight-year-old, orphaned girl in rafah. really encouragi him toelp israel, encourages

real to stopts planned invasion of that area. and i think thmoment just underscores we've seen that pressure on the president, but also there is now it's a real raul emotional moment of tension between these communities. >> well and toluene, i mean, one thing we know about president biden is that he is often most affected an impacted by these pernal moment because he doesn't get to have as many of them as a normal person would. >> yeah, >> that's one of the non president was one of the challenges in his response to the situatioin gaza lot of palestinian americans have said president biden is known for empathy, is known for being able to connect with people and weight and they haven't felt that when he's responded, he's shown a lot of empathy toward the people of israel and how they were impacted by what happened on october 7, but not as much about the palestinian americans. now, yesterday, the president put out a statement saying he was outraged by what happened to the volunteersor world central kitchen who ar killed by an israeli strike. and so we are starting to see more of that from the

presidt. and i think these moments where he's being directly tolabout the situation on the ground and how people are starving and how people are being impted by at israel has do over the past six months. that is starting to have an impact and we're starting to see it in thrhetoric from the president today as well. yeah. betsy, i mean, were you struck by the language in that statement that they put out in the response to the killing of the world central kitchen employees? >> absolutely. i mean, it marked an escalation, but they've also called this a humanitarian catastrophe, a crisis. we've seen this white house really lean in on that language in recent weeks and months. i mean, that started really with vice president harris at the edmund pettus bridge last month where she really she discussed in great detail how people are starving, they are eating animal feed or nothing at all >> all right, that's the climb. thank you very much for your reporting. i really appreciate how many are coming up here. donald trump's rally is taken your honor religious tone. we're going to talk about how christianity is coming out on the campaign trail. plus, right now in taiwan, a desperate search for survivors after a massive

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sudden shift in tone. or were they it goes from very high-energy almost a solemn church like atmosphere the net effect here is trump has turned the republican party into something resembling the church of trump. >> the church, of trump, a news story in the new york times showcasing how many trump rallies are looking less like campaign events, at least at the end, and more like a church service. times reporter, michael boundary saw him their rights. this the atmospheric quotes soft, reflective music fills the venue as a hush falls over the crowd. mr. trump's tone turns reverend, and some number prompting some supporters to bow their heads are close their eyes. others raise open palms in the air or murmur as if in prayer. in this moment, mr. trump's audience is his congregation, and the former president, their pastor, as he delivers a roughly 15 minute finale that evokes an evangelical ultor call, the emotional tradition that concludes some christian services in which attendees come forward to commit to their

savior my panelists back, i'm going to set aside hasn't what does that aside the golden calf for a moment mag mormon. but this is something that we are seeing increasingly on the campaign trail, but also just in our zeitgeist in the way that the former president is reaching out to christian voters. tim alberta attack well, this in the kingdom, the power and the glory >> what do you >> see here in these crowds, in the way that trump is doing this, it is actually different from what he did in 20202016. >> it's a little bit different. you're right. i mean, look at a lot of what benner described. it does resonate a little bit spending lot of time, especially how an iowa and other areas like but that's very normal. what you'd see in these sorts of events, whether the even joko audiences, it really is. i think number two is one thing we're not talking about. look,

i've sat in this set many times and talk about how to on a lot of issues republicans are on defense, on social issues. and when it comes to abortion in the light but there are issues where we feel on offense when trump says election day is going to be a day of christian visibility. when we talk about trans issues in sex changes for minors and women's sports. those are issues and social issues where we feel like we're playing offense on. and i think there is a little bit of walking with a ford foot on some of these things you're going to be hearing a lot more about those sorts. most social issues in months to come and maybe less about abortion. >> i'm going to play that in a second, but i think my question for you is why is it that people view trump as a seemingly or treat him like a seemingly christ-like figure when the bible specifically says like you're not supposed to do that, i think that i think it's a little bit different. it personifies itself differently with trump than others. but i >> do think for another candidate has gotten promising republican. i mean, he is not treated this way. moos politicians, i wish i will say

this though in a, in a secular way, not in a evangelical directly away, you saw >> biometry like this. he was yes, absolutely, absolutely. >> there was a sort of people >> not not an evangelical religion. we need a shot of parents face so i will say this when you are present of your party in real leader of your party, there is a base where it is a secular deification in a way it is, yes. >> look, i think as you pointed out, tim talks about at great length in his book, ten albert kim, alberta, this fusion that has happened in the event alkyl movement to the point that it is father's on funeral. he was getting attacked for things he'd written about trump, write this fusion and what you're seeing. i think trump understands and this is where i do think it's similar. 2016 and 2016. he understood that there was a cadre of voters who are afraid of a changing america. and he understood that by demonizing an othering black

and brown people and immigrants, that that was a way to galvanize that base this time, i think what he understands is that his popularity in the evangelical movement would say he's not perfect, but he's fighting for us, right and so that's why they're willing to accept a lot of us they will, but he's had a divorces and all these things but they think they understand. they think he's fighting for them and it's become part of identity. and i think he's understood that the second ago i would say is what's frightening about it is, as we've seen, the, he is also using very violent rhetoric and it makes many people feel less safe. it's also using, again, he's perverting the words of god and jesus. jesus did not pre-state. he did not preach in the past that has favorite bible verses, an eye for an eye, which is firmly in the old testament. the new correct >> i want to >> show you what two maps

earlier point. he did talk donald trump yesterday about trans visibility day, and easter sunday coinciding this year, not every year, but this year, watch >> and what the hell was biden thinking when he declared easter sunday to be trans visibility day such total disrespect to christians and november 5 is going to be called something else, you know, it's going to be called christian visibility day. when christians turn out and numbers that nobody has ever seen let's call it christian visibility >> okay, so wait a second. these guys are arguing, sorry, sorry, i'm sorry. do it on >> the iowa caucus. we did see that the ad that we've played here before, that was likening the birth of trump to the birth of jesus that's right where he literally compared to their

happen evangelicals who said, okay, that's too far. >> and >> tim alberta in his book talks about how some of evangelical movement have had are uncomfortable with this fusion and perversion of the teachings. do you agree? no. because look like i think the adenine pumpkin primary where there's a trust among republicans and a little different when you get to a general election, that, that choice will fuse. i don't think you're gonna see biden, even joko votes in iowa suddenly gaining steam here. he's >> not he's not going to lose, he's not >> going to lose any votes off that. i think it's a winning >> absolutely not absolutely not as a winning issue for and press that advantage if you're trump thinks the bourbon women, let's go back to them, are comfortable with donald trump converted our comfortable with him. literally saying, i'm your god, i want to know who all of a sudden see that that one thing about, you know what now and turned off they have after almost a decade of this,

that's going to break it. >> no, it's not just that. what is that shows is someone who will do anything to win, who has no boundaries, who has no sense of decency, who has no sense of what's appropriate, what's not appropriate. he'll do anything to win if it means comparing himself to god. that's what he'll do. >> i do >> think that falls into a narrative that we started to see particularly amongst suburban women in south carolina, by the way, these were rick, but these were tim scott voters who said, i'm not comfortable with that. they literally would bring him up and focus groups that i did and they would say we're not comfortable with the meanness, were not comfortable with the nastiness. we're not comfortable with the way he's idolized. >> yeah. sure. again, we i think we've been having the same conversation for a decade. like again, we talked about meanness, this same sort of thing that hillary clinton talked about. i just suddenly wonder that suddenly in the year 2024 after donald trucks bound to for this for a decade, that people don't wake up. you know what now he's to me, i was going to vote for him, but

that one thing, no, this thing is taking out my son >> that's that's that's my point. was like, okay, again, you're not perfusing my point, but again, i think what i heard is that suddenly suburban housewives your words are going to wake that the cat is that kind of language, that kind of behavior is getting another thing that people say that goes too far. that's too much. i'm not comfortable with that in the white house with his finger on the trigger for the nuclear codes. >> i mean, look, i'm really enjoying this back-and-forth between the two years. so till you and i are just so over here, i chelan, but i do i will say karen, i i i when you look at the imagery that these people where and the thing that they do at these political rallies. mean in some ways it favors what matt is saying here, that there are so many people that that the way that trump is treated is just totally different than other political candidates. i don't know if i take your point, but i get people got we're very excited about obama, but it was secular and pull it in was like

about grievance and retribution and but it was with obama, it was hopeful because what it hold off because of what people felt like. i know you'd love to interrupt me, but of what people don't like the country that maybe we have moved to a place where this was possible. i think what you see in trump though is more of a grievance narrative definitely dejectedly true. >> grievance versus i >> mean, hoping change is not the same. >> i think it shows frankly a fracture within the republican party within the event gel local movement about what's, what trump quick last word, really quick when you could be presence of popular presence of part of parties always have a certain cool personality around the oh, is it's always manifest itself different we're probably something about ronald reagan, like, let's not act like this suddenly the trump, this like, oh, my gosh, why are people in our base? sunday? yeah. in a different way. but the shoot >> his i could shoot people on fifth avenue in my basement still be with me. there is something about them there, yes that is a different totally

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amounts to the sharpest some of this sharpest language. he's used throughout this entire conflict to criticize israel's approach in gaza, a senior administration official told cnn that the death of the central kitchen workers really raised the frustration level among president biden and his top advisers to hold new levels that was evidenced in the very first words that president biden used in his statement yesterday saying, i am outraged, a word that he has rarely used in this conflict. the president also warned israel that they have not done enough to protect civilians in gaza. gaza he added, quote, this conflict has been one of the worst in recent memories in terms of how many aid workers have been killed. this is a major reason why distributing humanitarian aid in gaza has been so difficult because israel has not done enough to protect aid workers trying to deliver desperately needed help to civilians incidents like yesterday's, simply they should not happen. the white house also noted president

biden spoke by phone with the central role central kitchen founder, jose andres, a celebrity chef based here in washington, dc to express his condolences for the lives lost including one dual us canadian citizen. but this episode, really lazy it's bear the tension points between president biden and israel at a time when the administration has increasingly warned israel that they need to take greater care to protect civilians in their operations and also get more humanitarian aid into the enclave. one big question though, is how this might impact the president's approach when he is thinking about how to handle israel amid this conflict at a time when he's also facing domestic pressures on that front here at home >> all right. are arlette saenz force at the white house. arlette, thanks very much. i want to bring our panel back and we're also joined by the great david sanger. >> david >> the overnight last night, there was an op-ed in the new york times your newspaper from

jose andres, who has been pretty careful in how he has spoken about this conflict. while of course being very, very committed to the actual humanitarian mission with world central kitchen this is what he says quote, we know israelis, israelis in their heart of hearts know that food is not a weapon of war israel is better than the way this war is being waged. it is better than blocking food and medicine to civilians. it is better than killing aid workers who had coordinated their movements with the israel defense forces. there's a lot of nuance in that right there. what do you hear in it and how significant is all of this? >> but he's finally giving voice. i think to what he's been saying privately, i've i've spoken with them and others have at the remarkable thing here is that what he put together by himself with his organization was the best thing they have going for the israelis to show that there was food moving into gaza the

israelis should have been or could have been sending convoys to protect the movement of that food instead, they get involved in what i'm sure was accent on anybody deliberately wanted to target this group. but the president's outrage comes from the fact that this has simply not been a priority for prime minister netanyahu. and i think the president is realizing belatedly that hizon spot that right now, he politically is in a spot that is untenable at both sides. he's got democrats and particularly progresses, but pretty large number of democrats saying that he has embraced netanyahu far too much and has been too slow to separate. he's had a hardcore group that thinks that now he is walking away from israel when in fact it's just trying to walk away from netanyahu. and he just can't break himself out of the box we heard

from john kirby on all of this a little bit earlier and share what he had to say >> this isn't the first one. >> there are issues of deconfliction that clearly needs to be fleshed out. an improved. our expectation is, and we've made this clear to them that they'll come clean about what they've learned. there'll be fully be transparent and people need to be held accountable, that there'll be held accountable can almost see in the way kirby is there how intense the feelings are around this to david's point about the white house being squeezed from both sides mean, how do they thread this needle, especially with i think coverage of this, what happened with these world central kitchen there's still continuing to snowball and we were not at the end of the story. >> yeah. jose andres is someone who is well-known in washington dc. and this attack, this strike on these aid workers has resonated in a way that other incidents have not resonated even though there had been more than 200 aid workers killed over the course of this war, and thousands of civilians killed. the fact that this is an effort to provide food for

people who are starving, who were struggling is really resonated across the aisle. and i think that's part of the reason the white house feels the pressure to put more pressure on prime minister netanyahu, who, for the most part has not been publicly responsive to the pressure. but what we saw from the israelis last night, including a videotape statement where they said they were sorry three, where they said they were going to do an investigation. it's clear that they are feeling the pressure from the us, from the west end, from the white house that they're going to have to change to get any kind of continued support from that idea of video. very remarkable. >> david >> you speak with these leaders privately. obviously, you report on them extensively publicly what is your sense of the level of influence that president biden has at this moment with benjamin netanyahu, is it? and how does it compare to the influence that he had at the beginning of this conflict >> i actually think he had more and has been declining when he first went israel, he embraced them. he he said that we were all love world whose width him in an after october 7, the world was by enlarge with them

with some exceptions >> he had one word of warning at that time case you remember he said we overreacted after nine 11. and did things we came to regret and now the israelis have walked right down the path, i think in biden's mind that he feared that they would his influence has been pretty low but it is interesting to think that a few weeks ago, prime minister netanyahu said they would go into rafah before ramadan if there was no agreement on releasing hostages? well, there is no agreement >> they are not now >> in rafah. there was a long and tense meeting, two-and-a-half half hours with jake sullivan, the national security advisor, secretary of state blinken, and there is rarely counterparts about the rafah plan and from everything we hear about it, the us push back hard and said it could be months before you could

evacuated civilians out of there israeli still don't believe that all right. >> david sanger. david. thank you very much for your time this morning. have you could come back. i 53 minutes past the hour. here's your morning roundup. at least nine people are dead and more than 100 others trapped after a 7.4 magnitude earthquake rocked taiwan's east coast it is the strongest earthquake to hit the country in 25 years today, a federal appeals court will hear arguments from texas against the injunction that's blocking the state's controversial immigration law. the measure allows police to arrest anyone who they suspect is in the country illegally today, disney's future will be decided in a high-stakes board vote the billionaire nelson peltz is running for a board position if successful, it could mean an early departure for chief executive bob iger. one to watch >> house republicans introducing a bill to rename washington, d.c.'s ellis airport after former president

trump. it is currently named for john foster dulles, a former secretary of state, who fought against communism among other things would they give it with a retitle it? djt if they did probably set of iad, probably. >> uh-huh. >> i wonder if that would cause more or less confusion. >> between deca at less confusion with dallas? yes. all right >> now, let's turn to the man who loaned >> donald trump, the $175 million bond in his new york civil fraud case. >> and how >> exactly this deal came to be. >> this is. the man with the good sense alone. a lot of money to donald trump. you can dairy is the next owner of mar-a-lago billing or dawn hanky, also known as the king of the subprime car loans don hanging. he sells loans to people with less than exceptional credit forbes said his company repossessed this is about 250 cars a day or former president has got a loan from a repo man

>> donald trump payday, very rich, some subprime auto finance here, an all cash collateral to keep new york authorities from seizing his assets thank you. told cnn he is a trump supporter and that he was the one to initiate a deal with trump matt gorman >> did this man make a sound investment? >> i think he did, but here's, here's why, here's what i mean by that. >> his name's on cnn. we're talking about this person's picture was just shown up. he's on jimmy kimmel. he's not talking to us he's a talking to the president. if he's reelected, i can guarantee you who's intake is called the oval office. this guy number two? >> yes. great apparently advertising for his business, his play was not to us. it was to a very specific audience and i think it's a little it's not clear. he'll be >> able to read possess whatever the trump has that he's used to repossess cars. but i think it's clear that he is playing a political game in addition to the business game of whether or not this is the wise investment. and that's a

lot of what we see with president trump associates, people that are making calculations politically and seeing what they could get in the off chance that trump wins. yeah, 100%. he is betting that if trump wins, he can just pick which cabinet seat he wants, but he probably wasn't looking at the fact that 20 to 30,000 people in wisconsin, the margin of victory in 2020 actually voted for nikki trump or someone i'm starting nikki. >> oh, well, it happens right or early, or someone else and you know, but again, he's hedging his bat. right. and clearly he's got the dough to do it. >> matt, i mean, there is this general sense to about the if in fact trump is re-elected, the universe of people that's going to come to washington with him. i mean, we've heard that like paul manafort might thank you. back in the fold, ma there's subpri king of the subprime car loan, who i guess maybe an ambassadohip. i mean there's also

nversations about thfact that trump team nes lot calculating, making y are calcations about who might be brought in based on the donor there's that they could bring inhat is the impact on governance quite frankly, because i think there are a lot of people who feel like, well, there were some adults in the room and the first trump administration and those adults are largely going to be absent. >> i think chew things just real quick on the money for it. it kinda goes back to what we talked about initially with blood bath and stuff cannot underestimate how trump talks is also reflective need of how much he needs low dollar and online fundraising. so he isn't to say things and do things in a way to try and get attention bringing low dollar money. oh, as well as the high-dollar money that's number one. but you're right, number two, with the start in 2017, you saw a lot of rnc hands come in. sean spicer, reince priebus, and even on lower levels and communications step like that won't be the case this time, you're going to have a lot of folks were holdover from the end of the trump term, but also other folks from these kind of third-party organizations say heritage and others who, in a way have been preparing for this for a year to now >> and i think a lot

>> of times they felt they took a year or so to understand the machinations, the mechanisms of government that won't be the case this time for better or worse, better or worse, which is frightening mean we just saw this week that one of the top priorities in this plan, 2025, is to roll back civil rights laws, which i find again as a person of color, as a woman, i find that terrifying and just, and their whole rationale around why i do think that will give moderates and independents pause on whether or not they really want to support donald trump. again, this cast of characters trust me, there will be an add sort of the island of misfit toys type of ads that will kind of give a sense of the car salesman for one running our country. >> while i will say that many of the people who came to washington with trump, they left with lawyers >> yes. >> we shall see all right. i will leave you with this. >> the home of >> bratwurst and october fest could soon be home to 20,000

elephants but one wants to deport the elephants to germany it comes after germany proposed banning the import of hunting trophies like tusks from elements, elephants. germany is one of the largest importers of hunting trophies in the european union. but the president of botswana says that his country faces an overpopulation deletion of elephants. they are destroying crops and villages. they are trampling people. and botswana says that trophy hunting helps control the population >> this does sound like it would >> likely be a bluff however, botswana already sent 8,000 elephants to neighboring angola germany says they have not contacted them about this elephant showdown so, okay, elephants to neighboring angola is one thing, but like what are we flying the elephants? how are we deporting? >> now >> a great movie. >> a great movie?