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has gone to court trying to push out too early partners in this venture. former for contestants from his reality show, the apprentice, >> you'll fired west, you're fired >> if he wins, that could increase his share of any dividends. but he'll still have to wait about a half year before he can lay his hands on any of the theoretical billions, the company is correct currently worth if you valued this business like a typical business right now, you'd be looking closer to the 100 million figure, then you are ending this billion-dollar figures then you heard that, right? as the stock cools down, which almost every analyst says it has to do, it could be worth off a lot, lot less, meaning trump might make millions off it. but as far less likely to make the billions everyone's been talking about aaron. >> all right. tom. thank you very much. and thanks so much to all of you as always. based ac30 60 with anderson starts now
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>> tonight on three 60, the former president fails again to delay his first of many criminal trials and special counsel jack smith challenges the trump appointed class it's fine documents, judge, to make a ruling so he can take her to court also time. we're live from taiwan after the worst quake there in decades. and millions of people for plotting and planning and gearing up for the total solar eclipse just days away, we have the latest where you can see it and how you can do it safely. >> good evening. thanks for joining us major development this night in two of the many trials, the former president has been trying to delay in a moment the one who has largely been successful in slow walking, the federal classified documents case in florida we begin though with the one that he can't seem to stop though, not for lack of trying. namely the new york hush money trial. now, just 12 days away, cnn's kara scannell joins us with how his latest to delay attempt failed. so what's the former president been asking for now? >> so donald trump's team had asked the judge overseeing the new york case to delay it until
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the supreme court decides presidential immunity questions in a different federal case in washington dc related to the election subversion indictment. and then the judge today come me out with the ruling denying this motion, saying, frankly that trump has made it too late. he initially filed this motion on march 7. that was when this trial was scheduled to begin on march 25th, judge said that was just way too close. he wrote the fact that the defendant waited until amir 17 days prior to the scheduled trial date of march 25, 2024 so file the motion raises real questions about the sincerity and actual purpose of the motion. he also mentioned that the notion of presidential immunity was something that trump knew because he was using it in the federal case. but he also tried to use it in this very case to try to move it into federal court. a federal court judge kick that back to judge martian but this is just one of a flurry of motions that trump's team has been making in the past few days. and even weeks to try to delay this trial. they've asked the judge
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recuse himself because of work has daughter has done with democratic groups and they've also asked the judge to postpone the trial because a pretrial publicity, those motions are still up for the judge to rule on. anderson. is there anything new that so to the argument that trump has been making to effectively delay the trial because we talked about this last 90s, trying again to get the judge recuse himself. >> right. i mean, in the recusal motion, they're saying that they've done some more homework about some of the money that the company has daughter worser has made from democratic groups on the pretrial publicity. one, they took a survey of new yorkers mean this trial is going to take place in new york county that has manhattan. so they produce survey results showing that the market has been saturated with news about this trial, about all the other trials that trump has been facing. the very questions about e jean carroll defamation case, which also took place in new york. and they pointed out hope that new york's new yorkers tend to vote for trump's rivals overwhelmingly. and so they're concern there is that now that they have this data presenting to the judge to try to persuade him that he needs to do something. i mean, the judge was skeptical of this
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argument once before asking them, do you really think it's gonna be better in may when he denied it from the bench at one point, and prosecutors because they're opposing this, because they say, no matter when or where this trial takes place, it's the trial of a former president. there is going to be substantial media attention. >> so it doesn't seem likely anything is going to delay this trial for starting on the 15th. >> it's really hard to imagine that they could come up with some new legal argument to get that convince a judge to move the case. he has been pretty methodical well about how he's deciding these motions. i mean, he did grant the delay of 30 days for the trial when trump's side had raised concerns about misconduct by prosecutors, but he was quickly two he moved quickly to dismiss that once he realized what the allegations were, that trump's team was making any seems pretty set on making sure that this child starts without any further delays on april 15th kara scannell. thank you. now, the mar-a-lago classified documents trial, which cannot seem to get going, special counsel, jack smith's attempt to kick started. now, it's a little bit confusing in a late
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night filing overnight, jack smith all but challenged the judge, aileen cannon, to make a binding decision on a central the point in the case in time for him to then contest it namely her order for both sides to proposed jury instructions they're centered on the presidential records act, which the former president is repeatedly said, will exonerate him now, the special counsel's filing calls that seemingly trump-friendly order fundamentally flawed and ask it's for a quick ruling before the trial on how to apply the act, quoting now, it is vitally important that the court promptly decide whether the unstated legal premise underlying the recent order does in the court's view, represents a correct formulation of the law. jack smith adds, the government must have the opportunity to consider appellate review well, before for jeopardy attaches, that wouldn't that means is that if the issue is not decided before the trial starts in the form, prison is acquitted on that disputed legal basis. it would be impossible to challenge that acquittal because the fifth
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amendment's double jeopardy clause. now, the special counsel is seeking a decision now, so he can then ask the 11th circuit court of appeals hill's to overrule the judge, which that court has already done twice before. now, as for the former president has claimed restated in his own filing that the presidential records acts distinction between official and personal records would clear him. jack smith's filing calls that quote, a post-hoc justification that was concocted more than a year after he left the white house house and it's also not like the defendant didn't know what he was taking, wasn't personal or that he somehow declassified them before leaving office. he knew and what's more he said he knew it. here he is at the club in new jersey on tape showing one of them around yes, as president, i couldn't eat that. no, i can't help. but this is is dead interesting >> joining us now. is john jones, the third who retired as chief judge for the us middle district of pennsylvania, also senior legal analyst, elie at williams and karen friedman, egg nicolo, joe jones, can you
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just kinda explain in layman's terms why you think judge cannon is off base here >> yeah unfortunately, andrew said, first of all, it's good to be with you, but i think that she's a way off base. i think what's happened is the fence in its argument is turning that presidential records act on its head and she seems to have bought that and in layman's terms, what she's doing is really allowing via these questions suggested questions, the jury to make a determination as to whether a record that that trump has taken is covered by the presidential records act as personal and the absurdity of that in my view is that these are classified documents that are in play. they couldn't possibly be personal the presidential records act records act has a very narrow base. and of exclusions for things like diaries or cards, or newspaper clippings what we
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have here, our war plans, we have classified formation and jack smith, rightly, once the judge to determine that before the case goes to trial, in my view and karen the special counsel their team, pushed back on this broad broad reading of the presidential records act. they wrote the pra is distinction between personal and presidential records has no bearing on whether a former presidents possession of documents containing national defense into information to the judge's point is authorized under the espionage act, and they went on to say indeed based on the current record, the presidential records act should not play any role full at trial at all. >> do you agree with it? >> yeah. they're really conflating different issues and there is a standard jury charge for the espionage act. and jack smith actually cited to it and his motion and said this is the charge you're supposed to give the jury. this is the law. they're supposed to determine because at the end of the case, a judge gives the jury the elements of the crime that they have to find beyond a reasonable doubt, and it
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doesn't say anything about the presidential records act, but soever this is about s the espionage act. it's about national defense information. there's no way that these documents made by intelligence officials, by military officials, and that they were used to brief the president at the time. these are personal records. what i mean so >> ellie is the judge's misinformed. is she not wanting to see what you know? >> and i have been looking at this issue all de and just mind-boggling by what the judge has done here. and i mean, that and part of it might be misinformation, part of it might be being missing formed rather part of it might be trying to test the waters of a potential argument she might confront, but did pick up on karen's points. these are two vastly different schemes. one governs where we're mugs go that foreign leaders give the president, that's the presidential records act, does nothing to do with classified or sensitive documents. defense specific information, and she's really mixing up the two in a way that seems like just a missing nearly what happens if
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she refuses to rule on the pra, whether it applies before the trial will come. >> she has an obligation to roll here because under the rules the judge has to rule on issues that would take away a party's right to appeal down the road. this is an issue that bay the prosecutors can't appeal. they learn so she's an obligation to rule. now, if she doesn't number one, i think they seek to have her removed from the case for failing to avail to get parties in an option to take advantage of illegal pleading? an appeal that they >> regard to all that is going to take time and there's no way this thing is going before election >> i don't think so. there's, there's other motions that also haven't been ruled upon. she's slow walking this case, so this is not going joe jones back in the new york hush money case. i want to get to the former president's delayed tactics with ellie and karen in a moment, but you've been very vocal about your concerns for the safety of judges and their families last year morning threats the judge who signed off in the mar-a-lago search warrant, you wrote, quote, he and judges like him signed up
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for a job that entails risks. they didn't sign up to be killed. what do you make of the foreign >> presence? recent social media attacks on judge merchan and his daughter i think it's scurrilous. anderson, i spent a number of years on the judicial security committee of the judicial council of the united states and i'm well-versed in threats to judges, but this now transcends that. we're talking about judges, families, we're talking about prosecutors, prosecutors families and what i've opined and what i fear greatly is we're going to get somebody killed 99.9% of the electorate will not act out whatever their feelings may be. but you're talking about that fringe element that here's this, like a dog whistle and things that they're doing the will of their benefactors i what really worries me and judge, my child is riding the tiger here >> but >> if i were presiding in this case, i'd bring him in
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personally. have a really pitched discussion, and i think i'd have to tell him that if he continued down this road the next appearance would be one where he'd bring his toothbrush because, you cannot tolerate this kind of painting outside the lines. it is not a question to the first amendment. it's a situation where it's injurious to the administration of justice and and, you know, he's really pushing the envelope here and it's going to be very interesting to see what the presiding judge does. in the next couple of weeks. and i have no doubt the judge were child is going to try to get this trial convened like it or not, by the former president yeah, macquarie, what do you what's your response to the judge not delaying the the new york trial until the supreme court rules on immunity. >> well, the judge knows what trump is doing. he's actually said it in his decisions. you're trying to delay, you're making motions that have been ruled on already. very last minute, things that should have been done a long time ago trump has violated this new expanded
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gag order at least twice since yesterday. so he has been re-posting other people's statemenattacking the judge's daughter, and at will violate the section of the gag order that talks about making are causing to be made statements about family members. you are adopting one else's statement as your own, you're posting it on truth social. that's making a statement. i think he's trying to bait the judge because he's tried to bait the judge to get him to delay or he's trying to bait the judge to do something so that he then can ask for recusal. so far you haven't seen the da's office come forward and say he's violated it and you haven't seen the judge do it because the judge is not going we've take the bait because he's not going to let this delay, but trump continues to violate it. and at a certain point, i agree with the judge. he's going to be called in and he's going to be he's gonna be told specifically you do it again. you're going to be held in contempt. and at that point, there are several options that can be done. one of which is to put him in to force him to stop because money doesn't make him
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stop. warnings don't make him stop a court order is not making him in jail that you think that's an actual option. >> that's what has happened. and does happen to every other defendant and has happened many times. that's where the phrase bring your toothbrush comes from, right? i mean, that is what judges do. and what if he were anybody else. that's what would happen. somebody who is flagrantly violates it as trump does minutes after he is hold not too, he literally will repost statements, whether it's a fox news interview talking about it or today it was laura loomer. there's some post right before we came on here today talking about the judge's daughter, he was specifically told not to, and trump is putting that on truth social. he is taunting the judge because he wants to get the judge recused. and the judge is very smart. he's not going to take the bait, but at a certain point it is dangerous it does impact the jury pool and they're going to have to do something to stop him, free me. ella williams, judge jones. thank you so much. appreciate it coming up next, chef jose
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andres speaking out about the israeli strike that killed seven of his world central kitchen aid workers. also later, some polling political watchers believe florida is now up for grabs after the state supreme court upheld a restrictive new abortion law or ran dk talks a women voters that are get their take on how abortion could affect the presidential vote there's the amendment >> seven astronauts setting off on a scientific mission, columbia used in check. >> i didn't know anything concerning it happened there were people that did though >> the space shuttle accident, it's usually not one thing, it's a series of events >> you follow the debris for you, what's it telling you >> it should have had that test on day one? we need to figure out what the hell happened >> space shuttle columbia, the final flight premieres sunday at nine on cnn. welcome to stormy heights, where the windows are always pellet pelvis, fiberglass is the strongest material for windows and patio doors the fiberglass sprain let's even scratch and
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>> i mourn liebermann at the pentagon and this cnn chef jose andres, we'll out today about the israeli strike that killed seven world central kitchen workers delivering food to people in gaza. the prison, prison biden is about to take it up directly with israeli prime minister netanyahu. we'll have more on that in a moment. but first, warren, tell you what jose told reuters television about what do you call this targeting of the aid workers
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>> we didn't have all the information, obviously in the first minutes and hours, but very clear the situation began i'm being very obvious when we began seeing images of these bodies and these baths porch in the hospital that confirm these were our people. the anions while we know what everybody knows, >> seven >> team members between the spatial specialty security people, we have three british individuals and three three international crew plus one palestinian that they were target systematically carbide car. this was not use bad lag situation where we dropped the bomb in the wrong place or not. this was over 1.51 kilometers with a very defined humanitarian convoy that had signs in the top in the roof a very colorful logo that we are
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obviously very proud of. that that's very clear who we are and what we do >> chef jose andres talking to reuters more now from jerusalem and scenic jeremy diamond, who's there for us tonight. jeremy, chef jose andres also wrote an op-ed in the new york times titled let people eat. and in part of it, he said, we know israelis, israelis in their heart of hearts know that food is not a weapon of war. israel is better than the way this war is being waged. it is better than blocking food and medicine to civilians. it's better than killing aid workers who had coordinated their movements this with the israeli defense forces in the worst conditions have the worst terrorist attack in its history. it's time for the best of israel or show up. you cannot save the hostages by bombing every building in gaza. you cannot win this war by starving entire population what are israeli official saying tonight? >> well, interest and we're hearing deep expressions of regret from israeli officials, the recognition of the gravity of the situation with the chief of staff of the israeli military publicly apologizing
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for this, and he's really prime minister expressing deep regrets for the situation. but there are still many questions that remain about exactly actually how these three vehicles could have been misidentified mistakenly targeted by the israeli military as they claim. and chef jose andres in this interview with reuters is making clear that the israeli military and his view systematically targeted these vehicles, that they were clearly identified, saying that's what was not just a bad luck situation. he also said that his team tried to communicate with the idf as these strikes began to happen indicating that as we have seen with our analysis as well from the visual evidence on the ground that this was not just one strike as the israeli military has tried to suggest, not just one mistake, but multiple strikes targeting these individual vehicles a half a mile apart in one case, a mile apart in a second case. and so clearly there are still many more questions that the
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military is going to have to answer here as they conduct this investment proven biden is expected and toxin netanyahu tomorrow, what do we know about that phone call >> yeah, this will be the first phone call between these two men since this deadly strike that has drawn international condemnation as well as outrage from president biden himself one administration official is telling are a colleague, mj lee, that president biden is angry and growing increasingly frustrated and that he intends to share those frustrations with the israeli prime minister on this phone call. and this will not be the first time of course, that we've seen tensions between these two men boil to the surface, but it comes of course, as the united states is trying to pressure israel not to go into rafat with a ground offensive. and it also comes as the israeli prime minister is facing not only international pressure, but also pressure here at home, tonight. benny gantz, a member of the israeli war cabinet and prime minister netanyahu's chief political rival for the first time, calling for early
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elections as soon as september he has also asked the israeli prime minister directly for those elections. we haven't heard a response from prime minister netanyahu yet, but it comes as this week we have seen a growing number of protests directed at the prime minister calling for elections certainly a fulcrum moment that we are seeing rising pressure on the prime minister, how he will move going forward remains to be seen. anderson, jeremy diamond. thank you now, the earthquake in taiwan, which is just happened as we were getting off the air last night, at least nine people are known dead more than 900 injured, dozens remain trapped still with more than 100 buildings damage we have more videos show you. so i'm good his graphic. we don't know if anyone in one of the cars you're about to see is among the nine who've died it was taken just as the quake triggered a landslide, which the drivers must have seen further ahead because they're backing up when this enormous boulders come crashing down again, we can't say one way or another who was in the car that got hit or what happened? more in the bigger
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picture now from cnn's, i've and watson just, before 8:00 a.m. on wednesday, the ground in taiwan starts to shake. the island rocked by the most powerful earthquake to hit taiwan in a quarter century in the capital taipei dnn photo journalist john meese tries to protect his wife and children as the walls of their home lurch back and forth. >> since i'm looking earthquake >> is just hit announces the anchor of this morning news show. as she struggles to stay on her feet but the worst damage is at the epicenter in the rugged mountains of ytn county on the islands east coast told that ethan, the 7.4 magnitude earthquake triggers massive landslides authorities say several people were killed by falling rocks in the town of
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what an apartment buildings on the verge of collapse emergency workers inaction authority say they've rescued scores of people from toppled buildings and highway tunnels. >> but more than >> 900 people have been injured. and rescue teams are still trying to reach others trapped high in the mountains the work has continued in yen throughout the night mao, no one's left inside this building says this firefighter. he adds, people are frightened on mpn. sure. though wave, there are constant earthquakes here, says this woman, i've lived here 50 years and never felt one so big it's really scary people in taiwan are accustomed to feeling the earth shake, but rarely with this much destructive force wants and joins us now. and those pictures incredible how strong have the aftershocks been?
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>> i enough that the us geological society, he's talking about survey rather, it has talked about as six magnitude earthquake in the first 12 hours after that initial earthquake. and several that have been of magnitude five. and the authorities who are predicting that could reach up to seven over the next three to four days. i think a big part of the story anderson, is that even afteis mammoth earthquake tt shook book the capital taipei and you saw that footage that our own photojournalist film tt him and his family trying to take cover. i can rept they' all see a single bitbren even glass here in the center taipei. and i'm surround by skyscrers. the story is differennear the eceer that's about 0 miles from here a hundr, 60 kometers away >> but there have >> been a tremendous number of rescues that said there are about 140 people that the authority said there's still trying to rescue in some 71 of
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them. >> are >> minors believed to be in two different minds that the authorities are trying to reach. so we'll be watching that very closely and trying to see if the roads can open from here to that stricken town. yeah. andrew, some hope they get those people out. i've been watching. thank you. coming up to critical abortion rulings from florida supreme court this week, pushing the issue front and center on the ballot. this november 360 florida get reaction from women voters. here, what they had to say to our ndk next sunday new interviews with the return israeli hostages. >> what is the meaning of being hostage, raising those certain and the fight for the release of those still in captivity. the whole story with anderson cooper, sunday at eight on cnn >> always dry scope before you run >> hot dog died, gametes >> sure it's time. we listened to science one a day is formulated with key nutrients to support whole body health.
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within the margin of error and it's too close to call. and setting the president, former president out for obviously very close rematch. we should know prison biden won all these states except north carolina in the 20 20 election. meanwhile, in florida, a pair of state supreme court abortion rulings this week have democrats hoping it could flip blue again on monday, the state supreme court decided against halting the 15 week abortion ban, paving the way for a six-week ban to take effect may 1st. but in a separate filing, the court gave floridians the option to decide whether to enshrine abortion protections in the state's constitution on the ballot this november 360 randy case spoke with some florida women following the rulings. there's her report united states of america should allow abortion to anybody who wants it and if you don't have a uterus, you don't have a say, seven months to go before the presidential election and abortion laws are top of mind for women here in florida. >> hideous, disgusting, and backwards women losing all
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their rights >> after florida's conservative supreme court ruled in favor of one of the country's strictest abortion bans women. we spoke with were mainly split across party lines that will couple of republicans do feel the band is too restrictive, i think to happen flat over overall rule. not necessary. >> what do you think about the six-week ban that will be officially in effect? may 1 >> not happy about it. >> republican haley barry says she doesn't like the idea of a six-week abortion ban because it's just too early >> usually it takes about like eight weeks before women even know that they're pregnant and most of the time, if it's like an accident or they're not expecting it >> in fact, we heard that over and over from women, both republicans and democrats, majority of most women do not realize they're pregnant. >> the six-week ban in florida includes >> exceptions for rape, incest, fetal abnormalities, and when it comes to saving the mother's life, but that whole band could be wiped off the
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books this fall, if voters approve a constitutional amendment, florida supreme court ruled could be added to the november ballot amendment four says, no law shall prohibit penalize, delay, or restrict abortion before viability or when necessary to protect the patient's health as determined by the patient's healthcare provider and would clear the way for abortion rights in florida at least 60% need to vote in favor of the amendment for it to be approved some democrats told us that will drive them to the polls. >> i feel like it's 19502024 and a women's right to choose, i think is it's paramount. >> the biden campaign is hoping the ballot measure could give the democrat in opening in florida a onetime battleground state that has backed republican donald trump in the last two presidential elections. >> look work. there is about how hard it will be to win florida. but we also know that trump does not have it in the bag
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>> despite team biden's hopes, this republican voter says regardless of the six-week abortion ban, she's sticking with trump this impact your vote at all as a republican. >> know though that it, that it won't. >> why not >> with everything that's going on with inflation? jobs and the border, i that's more important to me honestly, and israeli conflict that's going on. so i have to she's that first same goes for the others. with this ruling impact your vote. and in terms of voting, republican, no no, >> not at all >> not after everything. biden's not a chance. >> the country has gone to >> hell and a handbag quite rapidly and it's not getting any better. >> i would never swing my vote anyway against republican because of a pro-choice or pro-life decision >> and randy joins me now. so the six-week ban will be in effect until and unless voters
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say otherwise in november, how did the people you spoke with feel about that? >> anderson most of the women we spoke with were pretty unhappy about that. they would have preferred if the band had just been postponed until they could have voted on that amendment, come note remember, but i did speak with one republican voter who's of likes how it sets up. she said this way, she can vote for the candidate that she wants would be donald trump in her case and then she can also vote. yes. on abortion rights. so she would vote in favor of that amendment, which would, if approved, clear the way for abortion rights here in the state of florida. but remember anderson, they need 60% of the vote odors here in the state to approve that amendment four to officially become part of florida's constitution and override that six-week ban, which would have already been on the books, anderson all right. randi kaye, randy, thanks. joining me now is florida democratic florida democratic congresswomen valve deming's and seeing them political commentator, or less far griffin, a former trump white house communications director. so congresswoman, is this how you expected the abortion debate it to play out
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in florida, the state's highest court effectively greenlighting this six-week ban. you'd also voters get a chance to overturn it >> what anna said, it's great to be with you and look, i don't believe florida protecting freedom, the organization who really relays are focused on this single issue. they did the work they raised the funds, and they got more than enough signatures, almost 1 million million signatures. i don't think they'd left the florida supreme court much of a choice. but to approve this constitutional amendment, to go on the ballot in november. and what we also know is that florida floridians about 77% of them believed that a woman should have the right to choose and that crosses all genders, all races, and all ages. and so look, we're not saying that this is the end-all be-all to florida's election issues, but i really do believe that men and women are motivated about this issue, and we do believe
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that we will see strong turnout come november >> i want to play something that trump said about governor desantis says six-week ban i mean the sanctus we're willing to sign a five-week and six-week bends, you support that. you think that's what he did is a terrible thing and a terrible mistake. >> he said he's going to make an announcement about this thing next week he seems to kind of just stay away from this. >> yes, donald trump understands that abortion is a huge liability for republicans in 2020 is called it a political loser. i think he honestly more so than probably any other republican because he doesn't actually have any core conviction bound at most of his life and public life. he was actually pro choice until he decided to run as a republican. and even in his first campaign, the way he talked about life issues were so out of step with where the pro-life movement is. i expect him to moderate his tone. i think that he's going to come out in an ounce of 15 to 16 week ban, something that the vast majority of the country can support something in that area. but the, what the
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biden team is going to have to do is be able to communicate. he may be saying that now, but these draconian laws that we're seeing in some of these southern states are a direct result of his supreme court appointments. >> whether >> that will break through as an open question comes from, according to politico, some florida democrats are warning president biden against politicizing the abortion ballot effort because they're going to need the help and moderate republicans to get it passed >> yeah. and anderson, certainly those almost 1 million signatures that we have did involve about 150,000 or republicans. and so i believe because of the work that was done by a florida protecting freedom, the organization that it led to this ballot initiative, the way it was written, very clear i believe that this issue can really stand on its own on the ballot in november. and remember, we know that 60% threshold is not easy. but florida has seen it before in 2018 with amendment for that gave citizens are
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convicted felons restored their rights so that they would be able to vote. we cleared that threshold by more than 60%. and so i believe if we can continue to work hard for turnout continued to talk to people who care about this issue. as i said, about 70% of viridian support, a woman's right to choose this as clearly about protecting a woman's right to choose. and i believe that floridians will show up to do just that. it isn't a single lesson. we heard from one republican woman talking to randy k, who said she's glad it's not going to be on the ballot because that allows her to vote for donald trump, but also voiced her opinion on this, that stood out to me because we have seen that play out in a handful of states. so ohio, kansas, and kentucky all red states had ballot initiatives are constitutional amendments up in the last several months, and republicans turned out and voted to protect abortion rights but then also voted for republicans on the ballot. so i do believe that there's a bit of a disconnect. i think that for a lot of
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republicans, they identified as pro-life when rho is the law of the land. and now when they see in their home states, some of these rules be brought back to something like six weeks, which is extreme. most women don't know they're pregnant at that point. they're comfortable parting ways with the party orthodoxy, but there's still going to vote with the top of the ticket. so i this is why i think president biden cannot bank at all in this abortion issue because there's a disconnect with some voters where they can vote for reproductive rights, but also for donald trump was for griffin. thank you so much, congressman deming's thank you so much. good. debbie, on the program still ahead after the devastating collapse of the francis scott key bridge in baltimore. experts are sounding the alarm about another bridge nearby that could pose a risk. cnn investigation on that as next if you work in spaceflight, this is the worst possible thing that could ever happen >> my dad died doing what he loved him shuttle columbia, final flight, premieres sunday at nine on cnn, the ups stores,
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>> i'm paula reid in washington and this is cnn the. >> collapse of, baltimore's francis scott key bridge last week triggered lasting economic consequences by shutting down america's 15th largest port. but experts are now warning that another iconic maryland bridge could be just as vulnerable the chesapeake bay bridge. here's pete muntean with a cnn investigation this is the center of the shipping channel that would have been used by the mv dali and soaring above is the for >> mile-long chesapeake bay bridge between annapolis and can island. a cnn investigation finds that it too could be vulnerable to the same kind of disaster that took down on baltimore's key bridge. >> that's the symbol of the chesapeake bay. >> captain frank carver showed me the bay bridge at close range, its oldest span now more than 70 years old, multiple experts warn to cnn that the suspension bridges, concrete pilings, and aging peers are
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too exposed to collision on this busy shipping route. state figures show that each year cargo ships carry a total of 11 million tons of cargo underneath. >> sometimes we do at least four times a day, if not, sometimes 10,000 today this is the older span of the chesapeake bay bridge finished in 1953. the newer span, the westbound ss man finished in 1972. both of these combined are critical for the area about 27 million vehicles pass over these two bridges each year engineering professor at ol safety of the university of north florida says the design could be at risk of collapse if the wrong piling was hit. >> if once a board goes down, then the whole superstructure, we'll go down as well and it will pull the other force that's well. it's going to have that kind of failure the >> tower peers that support the main spans of the bay bridge have protective fenders, but l softy points out that is where protections and there are none
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of the barriers known as dolphins use the blunt, the force of an arid chip. >> think that is what we really need to do is to design and pool design better and protect our infrastructure. >> the chesapeake bay bridge is operated and maintained by the same agency that oversees the key bridge in a new statement to cnn, the maryland transportation authority says, after the key bridge collapse, it is looking at options with the us coast guard on the feasibility of increased pure protections for the bay bridge. and what's possible in the navigation channel transportation secretary pete buttigieg said, no bridge is designed for a direct hit from a ship. this >> is a unique circumstance. i do not know of a bridge that has been constructed to withstand direct impact from a vessel of this size. i think everybody i'll definitely be on long are now. that's for sure. >> just south of the bay bridge or the container ships waiting to get into baltimore, still
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blocked by the key bridge disaster. one franc carver says cannot be repeated than one light years realized are never happened. all that an average >> now you can see it just opened up so many more vulnerabilities all around >> pete muntean joins us now, where our bridges that are considered adequately protected >> well, several experts that we talked to said the standout is tampers sunshine skyway bridge. its peers are surrounded by those barriers warriors known as dolphins. 36 of them in total, the design was triggered by a tragedy like what happened in baltimore in 1980, a ship struck that bridge, killing 35 people in the process, lacks release crash also highlighted the work being done on the delaware memorial bridge between wilmington in new jersey. the plan there is to install eight dolphins, but it is not all that cheap. anderson that project expected to cost 93 million. >> and what else are maryland officials saying that the bay bridge well, there was an advisory group meeting tonight
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of a group that's looking at the reconstruction of the bay bridge, something that's been talked about for decades. they said that they had seen in the cnn reporting that hit the the website earlier today, and they said we cannot be sin ducks and after last week's incident, we have to really look at what happens to the bridge. >> now, muntean, thanks very much still ahead. how monday solar eclipse could bring big crowds and big money to some areas of the country. harry enten is on eclipse mania duty next get your viewing glasses ready. >> this is something >> one want to miss. in experience, so rare won't, happen again for another two decades. boris sanchez and brianna keilar, host cnn special live coverage. as reporters and people around the company country take in this spectacle, in this guy's eclipse across america. live monday at one on cnn, or streaming on that cracked
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accustoming.com >> the source with kaitlan collins. >> next so millions of americans are hoping for sunday, monday, of course, to get the best view of the last total solar eclipse in the contiguous >> united states until 2044 really >> it seems like >> a lot of parenthetical francis, they've been planning for the on a sunday. they've been planning for this moment for months, making travel plans, stocking up on crucial eye protection if the weather cooperates with a celestial event, i hate to say it could be raining cloudy in some locations. i don't want be debbie downer. >> the moon >> will completely block the face of the sun for just minutes across portions of 13 states, as well as parts of canada and mexico. other locations across north america. will get a partial view of the club's for up to 80 minutes. a resident eclipse expert joins us now with more first things. first how can we watch the eclipse safely? >> yeah, how can we watch the eclipse safely? well, first off, i have my i can do it like this. yes that will work very well or you can do that here. you have to go all the way
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through like that, right? my glasses on there you go. i have a gift for you >> here you go. are these these are i heard there were like phony ones have gone to ease or logit. my friend, i'm going to put them on for you and i can literally see nothing that's going on. i'm literally blind, so i'm going to take them off. but the way that you know that the these are legit is if you zoom in, you will see the iso approval. oh, you're looking fantastic and you really, you really can't see you can't see anything, but you can see the eclipse. you can see the eclipse right? >> a possible because they collapse, those sun is blocked out. so how would he be while you're seeing it? when remember when it's totally blocked out, you won't be able to see it. but as it's sort of four, falling into the black yeah, right when you get that partial blockage, you don't want to be looking directly into the sun, do not do that. >> you take them off. when is the full blockage? yes, you can you can. but that will only be for a short period of time you've got be very careful because otherwise, you will get those ultraviolet rays that could hurt your retina. just looking fantastic. >> i feel like i'm in devo >> you may feel like you're in devo, but you look awesome let me tell you you are picking up
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the technology, but yes you what you want to look for is the iso approval. it's on the side of your box here. that means essentially that it has been approved, and that means you have real sunglasses that can real glad where's the heading where it can you see it? what's the path? okay? >> oh as >> you sent hinted at >> 13 states. right. so it's going to go up from the southwest and texas. so i guess that's more of the south texas and it's going to go upwards northeast words, it's going to hit a bunch of guys say, we don't have a graphic for, of course we have a graphic for in harry. no, i think this, know, we have a graphic for my wonderful graphic producers there you go. indianapolis let's cleveland, buffalo 30. i don't see new york city. new >> york city will only get a partial eclipse that is why my friend tomorrow night, i'll be heading up to buffalo, new york, niagara falls. i'm going to go on the mate of the missed on friday, scout, things out for you. >> okay. well, hopefully we'll get some video for you. maybe will shot on friday night, needed them made of the missing. so get your like thing. >> i'll >> absolutely my girlfriend went out, she got me some
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mittens, some boots, and even arrange jacket. oh, sweetie. she she she is far two kinds of manners >> you better >> keep her clothes, don't >> this is a reasonably talk about are all of the time. but the fact that you speak about new york city, right? you will in fact be able to let's see, i think upwards of about 85% of the sun will be blocked out. so you're still gonna get a show in new york just because you're not in the quote, unquote. do i have to get these glasses from my kids? do are kids find watching this no. i would del kids will not be fine watching the sun. in fact, you might argue they want their site for the rest of their life. i mean, you're close to the end and they are i'll give them mine. you'll get get them yours. you fell down, but here you go. i have another pair for you. >> it's gonna, it's >> probably gonna be a big boom for tourism in those areas. it's going to be a tremendous boon for tourism. so you know, i've been trying to book the flights going to buffalo and coming back from buffalo because afterwards i want to go on a cross-country ski vacation and let me tell you. all right. we only got four minutes. yeah >> i want to share my life with you. understand? and be honest with you. and i will tell you that the flight prices have been absolutely ridiculous gouging. they're gouging,
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gouging clips, gouging. it's a whole cottage industry anderson, upwards of 5,500% jump in the flight prices. look at this. wow, that's crazy. yeah, isn't that nuts? that's >> just for you to get on. well, flinch or private plans went to buffalo, you know what i heard that he's looking up at the buffalo bills. they have a lot of money now given that they got rid of stephon dairy william shatner is doing an event he told me during the eclipse, he's gonna be like narrating the eclipse. i can't remember what college he said he was doing it at some stadium somewhere. i don't know. i will tell you that that would be absolutely awesome because the fact is if you have the voice of star trek, when, when then what, what else, how long will it actually last? >> like it will >> only it depends on the location, but the whole equip eclipse will last for a little bit more than three minutes to a little bit more than four minutes, depending on exactly where you are. but of course you that yeah, it's a very exciting. you pointed out the weather at this particular point. it looks like burlington, vermont is the place to be. do not go in about texas because the whether there's going to be significant and thank you very much. and thank continues the source starts. now