brianna, you as we were standing out there, i realized you were emotional as i was. yeah. but one point, it overwhelmed you. >> talk to my goodness, as it was starting i just was like a ball baby. i was sobbing and i don't know. i just was sort of struck by the moment. it was really i was sort of thinking about who was not here with me if i'm being honest and that made me sad and then i was thinking about i wanted to be here with me in the future. and so i would like to see another one. and until then i'll i'll have to save this t-shirt. >> you'll have clips. that one boris sanchez, this very fine. shirt that briana produced for us. it's been so emotional watching the path of totality across north america. it's been such a treat to join you. thank you so much for being with us this afternoon. >> the lead with jake tapper starts right now

>> and welcome to the lean. >> i'm doing jake tapper and we start today with our out of this world lead and the once in a generation phenomenon across the united states right now, parts of the northeastern united states are still experiencing the solar eclipse, which passed across the us, plunging parts of 15 states into darkness. mexico's pacific coast was the first to experience what's called the totality. that's when the moon fully blocks out the sun. huge crowds gathered along the path of the totality in cities from mazatlan, mexico to one of the largest watch parties in the united states at the indianapolis motor speedway all the way to niagara falls, new york and all that travel is expected to provide a 6 impact on the economy according to some analysts, if you miss today's eclipse, you might not

need those special sunglasses again until august 2045. that's when nasa says the us will experience. it's next total solar eclipse. but we're going to bring the highlights from coast-to-coast. let's go straight out to derrick van dam, live on mountain mansfield and stowe, vermont and derrick, the path of totality passed over you, but people in your area should be able to see the partial eclipse for another 30 minutes. what are you seeing right now >> okay. so we'll sunlight has come back to mount mansfield. this is the highest mountain in vermont, but i got to just tell you, i'm trying to come up with the adjectives to describe what we just experienced. it was almost supernatural. it transcended time and space. it was on spring as a meteorologist to have these things come together in this way was so special and for the

thousands of people that join me here on top of mount mansfield and stowe, vermont i think they've got quite a treat because it was perfect, ideal eclipse viewing conditions and once in a generation experience, and someone cap this off with the most magical moment for a future couple. i want you to see what happened during totality. it's incredible you marry me >> gauge mint during a total solar eclipse okay. >> this is a supernatural moment as >> all right >> you guys we are, i'm standing next to the happy heavily engaged couple. i've got one question. how are you

going to tell? office on your anniversary >> i'm not i'm just not i really don't. i mean, unless i can make another astronomical event happened, i cannot. okay. so for us married people, you set the bar. i had a bar here. i did pretty well. you set the bar like way up here, not intentionally so thanks for doing that no, really you guys that was such a special moment to be a part of it caught everybody off guard including me, but i can imagine you. so tell me what you felt at that very moment. >> funny enough. i was looking at those clips of it and saif and then my turnaround and he starts making rooms. >> what was so astounding to me is that we were plunged into darkness and you timed it perfectly because as he asked her to marry him the sun came back out. as she said, yes. what were you feeling >> what a great coincidence

>> it's like you plan this. >> i wish i did. >> i just told that i told my friends to let me know when 3209 that didn't work. so i just started doing it >> i don't know. >> i think your cue was when the lights turned on in the room. >> that's a good cue. that's what i could do. probably should know guys that was really spectacular. and i just wish you all the best and thanks for making that happen up here because that was really just the perfect unity of everything. the natural world and also your marriage. so congratulations. thank you so much. >> yeah. jake, i mean, you saw the moment that's the that's the engaged couple >> it >> was phenomenal >> a really special thing to be a part of, but to witness that just was the cherry on the top, jerick, go back to them >> what are their names? where are they from? this is so cool that you got to see that and it happened okay, the moment of totality. >> i agree. i agree >> so jake tapper are one of

our main anchors at cnn, would like a little bit more time with you guys. and i want to i want to give this to him, please. i don't know your names. this is a terrible reporting job on my behalf tell the world >> i'm leo. this is cast nice where are you from >> southern new hampshire, although we live in massachusetts now yeah. >> same areas. if you traveled that far by car or by plane to get here, how by car? we drove up yesterday. yesterday. >> yesterday. >> how long how long did you have the ring for and how long were you planning >> so the ring i purchased probably about a month ago and the ring i've been making for like a month-and-a-half. like i make making practice ranks last weekend, i made the first iteration of the ring, which was bad and so i yesterday or on saturday, i went and i remade the setting for the

stone so that i would actually fit the stone and hold it pretty tightly still worried that it's going to fall out. but if it doesn't, i'm gonna be really happy >> everybody looked for a blue emerald on the snow. listen, is there any significance? seconds here with the ring that you chose? are designed with any kind of celestial meaning at all. i'm curious, like the sun, the stars, the moon, this >> no stone is the stone. the stone was her choice that she didn't know that one of my favorites. and then i thought point would accentuate the point on the stone but also. i had a dremel and i just kept using it >> well, you did a beautiful job and again, you raised the bar for all married couples are derrick tell country and again, thank you for that derrick derrick, tell them the next the next total eclipse in the united states is august 2045.

and we expect to see them and all their future a little eclipse babies on that time, august 2045, it's a date your next eclipse is august of 2045. and we expect to see you guys with your little eclipse >> babies walking around c.y. in the next all right, derrick, thanks so much >> jake tapper. derrick. get there. get their info so we can send them a nice wedding present when appropriate. but let's let's check out with some of our other correspondents and our anchors. cnn's we're keilar and boris sanchez are at the indianapolis motor speedway, one of the largest watch parties today. brianna and boris. before we ask you about your top highlights i have to share one of mine here. here's video of you earlier today, draws the sun and the moon. i did not see that coming by the way, but i did not i didn't i liked that.

i like to recreation i can look directly at it and i appreciate it to both you. thanks. thank you for the scientific reenactment, but tell us more about what what you got, where you are yeah. >> look anything for science. i know you'll be very surprised to know that the idea behind that was conceived in a bar. jake, i know that's going to be a big surprise for you and boris is always good for a fun time. so he was game to go along with my ridiculous idea. >> it was a great demonstration of what was happening in the sky. and it's a frank moment. so we decided to have some fun with it. one of many highlights throughout the day, indie was a fantastic place to watch the eclipse. jake thanks to both of you really appreciate boris sanchez embryonic healer. thanks so much. let's go to cnn's >> let's go to, >> you got to bring back some shirts for us though. i have to say cnn's kristin fisher is also at the indianapolis motor speedway dressed in human clothing. christian did today's eclipse live up to all

the hype for the people who were there. and for you as a space expert >> yeah, you know, this is my first time seeing a total solar eclipse. and what a way to see it, because this is the largest eclipse watching party in the world, 50,000 people were sitting in all of these seats surrounding me and jake, just the amount of oohs and odds from the crowd as they took in that moment was something that i'm we're going to forget the music playing as the moon passed in front of the sun was it was better than what everybody has said. it would be. and this, yes, it was the biggest watch party in the but here's a little sample of all the other ones it's parties from texas to maine that were happening during this incredible total solar eclipse of 2024 >> this is an extraordinary cosmic coincidence millions of

americans catching a once in a generation, total solar eclipse >> turning de in >> tonight for everyone along the path of totality, people coming from all over the world to see this rare event in the sky >> in india annapolis, the largest watch party in the world thousands cheering the eclipse from the iconic motor speedway >> it was much more dramatic than i thought or via mom. >> what did you think about it first time seeing a total solar i'm crying >> and in arkansas, 300 couples tied the knot in a total eclipse of the heart event. >> everybody is very quiet because totality is hitting. it is getting very dark. >> and in cleveland, home to the rock and roll hall of fame celebrating the event with pink floyd. it was a rare and breadth taking celestial event for millions even for the animals at the dallas zoo who were clearly aware of something happening to belgo has gone over by his pen where he normally would go right before

he puts himself to bed an absolutely captivating moment >> so it, it really was just an incredible few moments of totality. it was so dark that was something that really struck me, j. i couldn't get over how dark it was my dad was the one who has been chasing a total solar eclipse for most of his life. but it was my mom, dr. annuli fisher, former nasa astronaut, who actually started crying mom. >> i wasn't expecting that why what brought you to tears >> well, you know, i really don't know quite frankly, i wasn't all that excited about an eclipse. you know, i wasn't it was i just you know, came to be with you and i was surprised at how emotionalt is. it's almost i would say like a spiritual experience and wn you realize how the planets align like that, and it only happens every so many years like the next time it will be on this path is 360 two years from now. so you know, you're seeing something that nobody on

the planet will ever be alive for. so i guess it just says really moving when you think about it, no >> mom, jake tapper was a bit of a skeptic when i talked to him last week, he was like, i'm not quite sure. >> i >> get all the hype was did it live up to the hype? and what can you say to jake to maybe try to sway him to get out and see the next one, get into the path of totality >> i also thought that being with all these people, thousands of people here would be kind of you annoying and you have to fight the crowds and all that. and i thought, but having all these people around and have that sudden hush and all this wonder when thousands of people well, it was truly a moving experience and highly recommend seeing one in your lifetime >> mom. thank you so much. i can't believe i got to watch this with you is so much fun. >> care that >> you gotta get out here for the next one, 20 years, we'll see you. >> i was i was out there with my glasses and i'm very excited about it actually this point in time, kristin fisher partial j.

i know well, i saw what oh, i see what you're saying. go out to indianapolis next time or wherever i hear the path of totality. >> well, in any case, i'm glad i got to >> see you and your mom, dr. anna lee fisher, the first mom in space who we salute, and it's nice. you guys were able to do that together coming up thousands gathered at one of the most scenic spots in the to view the eclipse. in totality, we're going to take you there and former president trump making an announcement on his position on abortion and abortion rights. but did mr. trump say anything new or just further try to muddy the ground will tell you. >> next eclipse across america brought to you via miracle-gro grow like martha i spent a lot of time thinking about dirt at three in the morning >> and you >> what people don't know. is that not all dirt is the same.

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>> the fact is i've been here now since i think friday and whatnot been here since thursday. and the weather has gone sort of back and forth and yesterday was so sunny and then today i woke up and it was cloudy and to be honest, most of this de has been dreadful dreadful. it was called, it was drizzling at some points. it was a disappointment until that moment of totality hit. and while i couldn't actually see the moon pass in front of the sun the darkness that came upon here is something that honestly cannot be explained in words. i'm not a very religious man by any stretch of the imagination. but it was a religious experience it's the type of thing that makes you think that we're not alone in this universe it makes you think that we are just a small part of a larger world. and everybody here, even though it was cloudy, absolutely was

enthralled by the experience. myself included suited and as someone who's been to western new york for disappointments before mainly the bill's losing the chiefs earlier this year in that key divisional playoff game although for most of this events, it was a disappointment when that moment of totality hit. it was anything but and it truly wasn't experience that i'll never forget. >> parry it sounds like it was worth the hype we're so glad we sent you there harriet's and thanks so much. cnn was onboard a flight all the path of totality will show you what that looked like coming up all right >> i'm going to fight this war and when it against the. king >> and i will pay it back 100 times over >> crush this beast at its head cost to fix jury now, this one of violence to war then our eye

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operations, jessica disservice joins us now. she hates to be called the eclipses are, so do not call her that. jessica. thanks so much for joining us. did everything running smoothly as you'd plan for so far so good. >> i was able to watch it was a little cloudy and niagara falls today or i was but we had a moment where we could see full totality and it was really a special experience, is the traffic gridlock in new york, super bad. now not yet. not yet. >> we have i think everyone has heated the governor's advice and has we've been telling people to stay and not get on the road immediately after i just came from niagara falls to amend our regional operation center in buffalo and traffic there is traffic, but it's not backed up yet. we are anticipating that as we get later on in the afternoon and the evening, that traffic will increase, but we have all of the assets and increases. we've searched a lot of resources to the places we think there's going to be traffic. so we'll handle it do you have any idea

of how much money the eclipse tourism might have brought in for the state of new york not yet because i think it was hard for us to predict exactly how many people were going to be here. we knew that the hotels and airbnbs we're full but that doesn't account for dave visitors and people going from one place to state to the other so we will be paying a lot of attention to that, but we anticipate that is gonna be a big number. >> you spent months planning and preparing for this day. how do you feel now that basically new york's part of it is over >> i am the eclipse was really cool and i can't wait to go see another one where i don't have to work we have this is where we do our real jobs and making sure that as people are leaving or going back home, that they do it safely. so it's going to be i'm not quite ready to kick my feet up yet. we've got a long night ahead of us here, but we're confident the next total solar

eclipse to cross over new york it's not until 2079. but for whomever it takes charge of that one. what are some words of advice you'll give them that they can watch in their brain phones in the year 2079 when they whatever they have to do to conjure for this interview i think planning early is one of the best advice i could give that to anybody. i think start early so that at the end of this when it starts to fever pitch, that you're not panicking we worked hard for a long time and so yesterday it was we just need this to happen. so i would say start early and what's the worst thing that you prepared for is, i assume some sort of well, what are one what's one of the worst things you >> prepared for the thankfully, didn't happen i'm still waiting for gridlock. that was really the thing that had scared us. we didn't want and there's a difference between traffic and gridlock we don't want people stranded on the

road for ten hours because that causes all sorts of health and safety concerns that has not happened yet again, we have a long way to go tonight, but that was really one of the things that kept me up when i imagined that you wondered if people were just going to stop driving in the middle of the eclipse and look up or whatever and that would just start horrible traffic. if not traffic accidents >> and that didn't happen. we also started telling people this week that all of our law enforcement agencies would be ticketing and to'ing people. >> so i >> think that was a deterrent for them as well. >> all right. jessica, two serous. thanks so much and congratulations. donald trump's lawyers just finished arguing before a judge in new york what we're learning about the former president's latest attempt to delay his first criminal trial. that's next

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still love janice and now so to my neighbors i'm evan perez at the federal court in washington, and this is cnn >> in robotics donald trump >> weighed in today on one of the most contentious issues facing voters in november, a bortion, the former president, faced pressure from social conservatives to back a federal nationwide ban on abortion. but in a video released earlier today, he took a different stance. take a listen hi view is, now that we have abortion where everybody wanted it from a legal standpoint the states will determine by vote or legislation, or perhaps both and whatever they decide must be the law of the land in this case the law of the state >> well, it's certainly not accurate to say that this is abortion is where everybody wants it from a legal standpoint, but certainly where conservatives wanted it at

least to begin. let's discuss. so kristen, you cover trump. there was mounting pressure on him from social conservatives to to push a nationwide abortion ban he didn't say whether if something like that landed on his desk, he would sign it into law. he did say that he was proud of the fact that the justices, he appointed overturned roe v. wade was there actually anything new that he said today? >> no one i will remind you that this is actually exactly where he started at. i mean, publicly for last two years, he has been saying it to be left up to the states. this is not an issue that he in any way wants to take on. and this was really him putting a button on it. this isn't going to change before the election unless something catastrophic happens. i'm told by advisors like this is the stance of the campaign and of donald trump. and the only reason that he came out and did this was because he was getting so much pressure from both sides to come up with a definitive stats. now, he was getting this behind the scenes, kind of pushed back as you said, from these evangelicals, from the social conservatives. and he was listening, any was

publicly flirting with the idea of a 15 weeks national band. but we hear these moderate republicans who were going to him, they were telling him this is a huge mistake politically, you cannot get out there and do any sort of national ban. so yes, he did not mention it, but i am told by the campaign this was his way of putting his marker of where he's going to stand and that's not going to change alice. >> his >> former vice president, mike pence posted on x on twitter this response quote president trump's retreat on the right to >> life is a slap in the face to the millions of pro-life americans who voted for him in 2016 and 2020. and we saw a similar note of criticism from republican senator lindsey graham of south carolina who said, quote, i respectfully disagree with president trump statement that abortion is a states rights issue. dobbs, that's the case in which roe was overturned. dobbs does not require that conclusion. let legally and the pro-life movement has always been about the wellbeing of the unborn child, not geography, meaning state-by-state. trump took to truth, social this will just

moments ago to attack lindsey graham by saying in part, senator lindsey graham is doing a great disservice to the republican party and to our country he basically is saying that that's a loser of an issue politically. so republicans shouldn't be there >> what do you think >> any of this is going to have any impact on anti-abortion, pro-life voters i don't think so. they are taking this as an opportunity to really express their frustration with this. you have groups like susan b. anthony who say keeping this in the hands of the state really seeds this to the democratic will on abortion, which they think is late term abortion. you have groups like concern women for america who say that they support donald trump's position, but they would like to see a talk about a national limits on abortions, not bands, but we have to recognise the fact we're past the republican primary. he is the presumptive nominee. we're in a general election and donald trump needs to appeal to independent, more moderate voters. and politically speaking, he's not going to do so if they're threat hangs out there of a federal ban and you can be pro-life, you can be

anti-abortion, but we must recognize the political reality if he did not put a pin in this and explain exactly what his position is democrats would be hanging over his head about a federal ban, which mind you couldn't happen because neither side we get 60 votes for a federal ban. but it was important politically for donald trump to put his flat in the ground on this issue. >> i had a democrat see it because i don't think it's like that. >> i don't think they do. i think that democrats think this is a losing issue for republicans. i think that time and time again in the midterms and in these conservative states for ballot initiatives have lost this is not a winning issue for republicans. democrats are going to take full advantage not only from a fundraising point of view, but also at the ballot box in november this is an opportunity for them to reach out hi to those moderate voters as key haley voters that are so important for joe biden to win a nobel. >> and i will say that's the one thing that democrats and donald trump's seem to agree with winning issue for republicans >> although i don't think he took it off the table for them and in any case, because i mean, obviously they're democrats are still going to say he didn't say whether he

would sign it and he said that he's the one that's responsible for this. he began the video focusing on ivf, which is obviously an issue that has like 90% support and making it clear he supports families making their own choices when it comes to that type of family planning so i guess he is trying to walk a line, but it really is just not where the swing voters are. >> no, it's not. and i think again, donald trump knows that this is a losing issue. and if it was up to him, he probably wouldn't be talking about this at all. and part of the pressure was not just from the social conservatives, but it was also from democrats getting out there saying he doesn't have a stance, look at him, waffling on all all of this. so we had to put something down there, something on paper, but obviously it's donald trump and he can't get out there without reminding everyone that he also is the architect. he's responsible for the overturning of roe v. wade. he's proud of what he did there. >> again, despite the fact that he doesn't want to be talking about abortion at all. it will note on the ivf stuff that is something that he felt like he handled really well, that he got out there right away, that he was saying he was supportive

of ivf, that he everyone he has talked to has said that to him. so that's probably why he led the video with that, then ing th we were all waitiactual to hear, which is where he it doesn't change much in terms of dememocrats are still we're gonna go after him and now you have the social conservatives, evangelicals going after hi just definiti and whethe it more stds so that thedea of a oming national ban isn't hanging over him. >> and ihink iwas important to your point, him to talk about pporting for ivf, which republicans are pro-life and they support that issue he also made point to mention he supports exceptions for rape, incest, and life of the mother, which is another important issue. but what he went out there today to your point he recognizes every time this issue is on the ballot or an initiative, the pro-abortion side wins and he understands there needs to be more nuanced position from republicans. you can still be pro-life, you can be anti-abortion. but in order to be more protective of the sanctity of life, we need to appeal to independent voters. so i saw some coverage that

said that it, donald trump said this should be left up to the states. but if you actually listen to what he says, he doesn't say it should be left up to the states. he says it will be left up to the states, which is the current status he's still left the door open for some sort of band and i agree with you. they're just never will be the votes in the senate for that to happen. but he did not close the door on a ban. >> i just don't think he took the stance that everyone is trying to claim that he took this is immune. he left it out there for everyone to interpret and he's like, i don't understand why he even made a stance at all. like why en go out there. he didn't say anythingow and so he just left it more opportunity for democrats to continue to harp on the i and continue to dra wedgin the difference between donald trump and joe biden and where th stand on this issue. and it's incrible thate continues to not understandhat this isn't losing issue. so why did >> he i mean, you >> acknowledging the vy first answer, this is not new. this has been his position for quite some time, which is basically i'm really proud that i appointed the justices that overturned roe v. wade and now

it's going up to the states and that's where i am. this is why even do a video, why even talk about this issue? because as he acknowledges, as you say, as you note he acknowledges this is a loser form. >> when it came to decided to do the video, a lot of it came off of the fact that he himself had begun floating this idea of a national abortion week of 15, 15 week, which again, this is a self-inflicted wound, right? the reason he had to come out and clarify that he wants again, was exactly where he started, which was that the right? so to the states is because he himself had gotten out there and routinely said, well, maybe people agree on 15 weeks, even the hardliners kind of like 15 weeks and floated this idea over and over again like three separate times and separate interviews that he might get behind this. so then it opened the door for democrats to even hit harder. again on an issue that they already have the upper hand. if you look at all the polling and then he had to come out and say actually it's about the state's rights again >> yeah >> curiouser and curiouser. thanks all for being here.

turning to our lawn justice league. now a new york appeals judge has just heard donald trump's latest attempt. the challenge the hush money case involving former adult film star and director stormy daniels, jury selection in that case is set to begin a week from today this morning trump's attorneys filed appeals over a gag order in the case, as well as the change of venue. cnn senior legal analyst elie honig joins us elie walk us through what happened in court just in the last hour yeah, jake so there's two different things happen. first of all, starting an hour ago at 3:45, attorneys for donald trump and for the da, wait in front of a single appeals court judge in new york state court, and they argue donald trump's venue appeal. donald trump is asking to take this trial out of new york county, which has manhattan and move it to another account. county in new york. now, we hear that that hearing has ended and we should get a ruling on that. i think fairly soon i think the judge understands that this is an emergency motion, depending what this judge rules, this could set the table for a full appeal on the venue issue, which would be heard presumably

quickly later this week. now separately, donald trump is going to appeal is in the process of appealing the gag order which restricts what he can say publicly outside of the courtroom. and we're waiting for that one to be argued as well. >> let's look at each of these appeals. how much merit is there to trump's arguments for a change of venue? >> i think very little jake, i think he has very little chance of succeeding first of all, the prosecutors who have charged this crime, where the alleged crime occurred, that's what you're supposed to do as a prosecutor. let's remember the crime here is falsification of business records. those business records around the hush money payment were created in manhattan in new york county payments were made in manhattan, new york county. and that's where the case is charged. and second of all, it's not really enough for a defendant to say, well, i'm on in this county are among this population because what the court i think is likely to say is, well, that's why we have jury selection. we will identify and weed out potential jurors who are biased too much for or against you. and so that's enough of a protection. so i'd be shocked if donald

trump prevails on that venue motion. what about the motion for a gag order >> yeah. again, i think donald trump has a very low chance of success here because important to remember, this gag order is really narrow, jake, all it does is prohibit donald trump from commenting publicly on jurors, on witnesses on court staff and family members. it does not prevent donald trump from doing what he spent a lot of the last week doing, which is criticizing in very aggressive terms the case, the judge and the da, and it's worth noting, jake, similar gag orders have been upheld in two other cases in the new york state civil case. and in the dc federal case. so i think there's a very good chance that the court of appeals says this gag order is narrow enough. it's fine. >> jury selection in this supposed to begin in this case in one week could either of these motions upset the start of the case >> i think the short answer is no. the gag order motion has nothing to do with the timing of this case. so whichever way that goes, i think that will not interfere with the april 15th start date if the venue motion gets any traction, which

as i said before, i think is unlikely that would certainly upset the start date here. but again, i think the chances of that venue motion succeeding there are quite low. >> so then there's also the special counsel, jack smith. he faces a midnight deadline to file a new brief with the us supreme court regarding trump claiming total immunity in the federal election subversion case. what do you expect them to say? jack smith so we're shifting over to washington, dc here. and as you said, jack smith's january 6 case, i think we're going to see really a three-part argument from jack smith. one there's no blanket immunity. you're not automatically immune from prosecution for anything you did throughout your time as president to even if there is such immunity, it has to be narrow and within the car i'm finding of the job of president and i think jack smith will argue what trump did here was well outside those confines. and third, i think jack smith is going to argue against trump's claim that first he would've had to have been impeached by the house, convicted by the senate and then only then could he be prosecuted. so i think that argument, i think jack smith is

going to argue that that's nonsense. and those two good things are essentially unconnected legally. >> and what are you expecting from the us supreme court when it comes to this total immunity claim >> so the argument is april 25th, so a couple of weeks away, i do not think the supreme court will have any interest in a decision that any president is covered for everything he does from the moment he takes off till the moment he leaves. i also think that the impeachment argument will be quickly dismissed, but i think if you look at the supreme court's one-page order taking this case and granting argument they do seem to be somewhat interested in this argument about a federal official president can be immune for actions taken within the scope of the job. and then that will raise the question well, was donald trump acting within the scope of his job? of course, trump's team will say he was the president. he had very broad job responsibilities and doj will say, now, we've charged with crimes that go way beyond. so i think the supreme court is going to be focusing on that specific issue. there's a chance, jake, that the supreme court may send this back down to the lower courts

and say you have to have some hearings here. you have to decide whether trump was inside or outside the scope of the presidency. >> honing, thanks so much. appreciate it. continuing with our law and justice lead our series called trump's january 6 hostages. first a reminder of what mr. trump repeatedly says about these individuals they are to release the j6 hostages. they suffered data released i call them the j. hostages. >> not >> prisoners. i call him the hostages. what's happened? >> he calls them the hostages. they are of course, not hostages. they are criminals and criminal defendants from the capital attack, many of them have been accused and convicted of serious violent crimes. today's profile of one of trump's j. hostages, daniel ball a florida mr. ball faces felony charges, including assaulting officers with a deadly weapon. according to court documents, ball is responsible for the most

memorable memorable event for some of the police officers who guarded a tunnel entrance from the capitals lower west terrace. that's where the inauguration stage was being set up according to prime prosecutors, mr. ball made it into the capital and pride a large piece of broken would off a window shutter, then prosecutors say he went back outside, ignited some sort of device and hurl that device into the tunnel. it flashed exploding multiple times. the fbi could not conclusively say what the device was, but its impact was severe. a dc police officer in that time, i'll set his hearing was impaired for months another officer rated painful ringing in his ears, attack out of ten and temporarily even lost hearing. other officers said they thought they were going to die. some said they suffered psychological trauma from that one single event by mr. their ball. now, while those officers suffered prosecutors say a photo shows balls reaction, that's allegedly him with his left fist triumphantly up in the air in the hour after

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