spectacular thing. i know people have told you this jake, and it's all good. but 90%, one thing totality is another thing. when it goes completely dark, it is a different thing and i saw a couple of things today which i'd never experienced before, a way off in this the east, you can see sunlight at first and then it went dark. and then the other thing that happened, like there's a breeze, right now here in texas. but during the during totality, the briefs there were some effect with cold and warm air that the breeze was held up, was cool, it was spectacular. all right. well, science, you may, spain 2026, a case of that fredericksburg, texas wine it's a date >> all right. >> i'll see you there. >> thanks so much. if you ever mis or coverage continues now, onepiso you can listen to the show once you get your podcasts or coverage continues now, on cnn,

see tomorrow canada periods after witnessing a rare total solar eclipse standby for the amazing images and moments from across the country. and we're also following breaking news and doing york appeals court judge, just deny donald trump's

latest request to delay his hush money trial. we're breaking down trump's last-minute motions one week before jury selection is set to begin. and the nc doublet women's tournament comes to a thrilling close with south carolina defeating iowa veterans sportscaster >> millions of american catching a once in a generation total solar eclipse turning de, tonight for everyone along the path of totality, people coming from all over the world to see this rare event in the sky >> in >> indianapolis at the largest watch party in the world. thousands cheering the eclipse from the iconic motor speedway

>> dad, what did you think >> amazing >> i have no words. it was much more dramatic than i thought would be a mom what did you think about it first time seeing a total solar. >> i'm trying. >> and in arkansas, more than 350 couples tied the knot in a total eclipse of the heart event on a mountain top in vermont love was also in the air as this couple of got engaged right before the eclipse ended, very it was a rare and breathtaking celestial event for millions seeing it for the first time was shocking down my spine, even for the animals at the dallas zoo who were clearly aware of something happening, the logo has gone over by his pen where he normally would go right before he puts himself to bed. an absolutely captivating moment >> here in indianapolis, it will be 129 years before this

city gets to see another total solar eclipse. i just feel so lucky and moved that i got to see this one. and you heard my dad say he was speechless. my mom cried. >> i did not see that one coming and wolfe, i just i don't think i've ever going to look at the sun quite the same way ever again. >> i suspect you're right edges speak for so many of us who were so moved by what we saw. kristin fisher. thank you very much. i want to bring in cnn analyst miles o'brien right now, as you know, he's a veteran of covering space and

aviation. he's over at the cotton bowl stadium and dallas, texas, where he watched the eclipse you are in the path of totality to the eclipse miles. you watched it from that historic location, the cotton boll. what was the most memorable part of this experience >> what do you, it's funny, kristen mentioned somebody getting married well, there's t strange light temperature, which is very difficult for me to describe. it's kinda bluish, almost gray light which

is really eerie and you don't see it in any other context it is, it's a reminder wealth that we are part of a big celestial system kind of very small pieces in that system. >> but >> for me, also, it's a great reminder of where we are in the scientific world. the fact that we can predict these things down to the second and launch airplanes and rockets and spacecraft to learn more about the most important star we know of our sun is also good. so it reminds us of how the humility

and the humble nature of humankind, but also how far we've come >> yeah, you're making an important point because scientists and astronomers are studying this eclipse already. what are some of the questions they're hoping, hoping to answer >> well, the big one, which really affects all of us is the sun operates on an 11 i was oute here in washington, dc and i saw some of that partial eclipse and it was amazing for me as well. miles o'brien, thanks as usual for joining us and joining us. let's continue this conversation with former astronaut. may jamison, who witnessed the total eclipse as it passed over bloomington, indiana. may. thank you very much. this was so exciting for all of us. so you were there in

the path of totality at that event in indiana, what was that like? >> so for me, it really was about the connectedness i think we've just heard wolf talk about sorry, miles talk to you wolf about a lot of the science that's involved. any talked about humility and he mentioned that's really important we're smack dab in the middle of the cosmos. >> i hope that it >> showed us that we are connected with this universe. and so for me, that was a part of it because it was right there in your face, the moon orbits the earth. the earth is rotating the same time we're revolving around the sun, but we're all part of this universe and the universe was showing us some of its secrets at that point in time. >> as i mentioned, here, a former astronaut. so you've been to space. how does that shape your perspective as you experienced this kind of very rare celestial event? >> so as i was looking, again, i was thinking about being a

child when i was in chicago years ago and there was a partially clips and just trying to get a handle on things. and then as an astronaut, i always think about the fact that people talk about how we looked down at the earth and everything that we know is here. >> for >> me, it reinforced the feeling that when i look up when i look away from the earth, when i was in space, it again connects me with this world, with this universe. and know that i have a responsibility when we start to think about all the kinds of things that we know how to do these days in science. >> you know, the prediction of the class >> started a long time ago and we are building up on all of that knowledge in the past. so i ask, what are we going to do to the future? what are we going to pass along? that's what happens to me. >> i'm wondering what we can learn may by studying it's eclipse >> it's so, let me just tell you one of the things that had been learned. and one of the clips in the early 1900s, they

were able to verify einstein's theory of relativity because light bends around the moon and you could actually see that there was ways of verifying thank things that we talked about. you can look and see what what's happening to the corona or the surface area of the sun. there are lots of things that you can look at actually helium was discovered in the sun back in the 1800s. so there are lots of different things we can look at. but i hope what people discover is themselves and they're connectedness to the rest of the universe. their connectedness to the past, and that whole swath of the us that was touched by the eclipse >> i hope we >> understand that we're connected in this world >> regardless of whether we want to be are we certainly are solar eclipses may, as you know, are a great moment to teach young people and the public for that matter about space what are you're hoping, hoping people will take away from today's really rare, very

emotional, moving event >> so that space is dynamic, right? so it's not just the thing sitting still in one plane. it's dynamic and hopefully we take away that when the wind started it's a cease that's an immediate takeaway that the sun affects our atmosphere that are atmospheric effects us. so i hope that we paid attention to how many things changed just as the moon was crossing the surface of crossing in front of the sun. >> yeah, it was amazing moment you may, jamieson. thank you very much for joining us just ahead. there's more news we're following, including breaking news. i'm donald trump's losing a new effort to delay his first criminal trial by trying to move it outside of manhattan and later trump makes a statement about his position on abortion rights and faces backlash from antiabortion groups. stay with us you're in

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prosecutors themselves, but the judge and alvin bragg, the da, are still free for trump to speak up, but they're also appealing in that order. we're expecting arguments in that to be tomorrow. but for now, this trial is on flex monday. walls >> we'll see what happens. ra scannell in nework for us. thank you. let's get some analysts, carry rdero and gal normen norm, what's your reaction? first of all, to this appeals cour judge rejecting trump's latest effort to try to pause the case and move it to a different lation will fit said to be expected in fact, in my ok coming out this case, i predicted that t trump would attempt to use this action. it's known as a section two 30 motion. youo

directly to the appellate court, not the trial judge. you say,ey too much etrial publicity move this case of se, he wasoing to y it by my count.t's his ninth delay tactic, wealth, becaus he's ve nervous about facing a jury on thallegations of election interference,ut it wasn't going to work because donald tru himself is responsible for so much of the pretrial publicity, the judge also released a very detailed jur questionnaire today, we're jurors are going to be asked about, doesn't of potential sources of knowledge about the case. and using that questinaire and th interrogating e jurors in at courtroom is how you will scen for bias, not moving the

case. it was a dead loser from the get-go. good. they'll lose thatp, thaappealndustr trump carry. have any other avenues to try to delay or can we definitively now sa trump's new york crimil trial will begin next monday it certainly seems like it's on the path to for monday, there is this outstanding issue as qarrah was reporting >> on the gag order. and so we do need to wait to see how that hearing goes tomorrow, but that would really govern the conduct of the trial and what but he can and cannot say during it, not necessarily whether or not it goes forward. so i think all things look in the direction that jury selection really will begin a week from today but i think it will be a lengthy and very intense jury selection. and process. >> i think you're right nor my trump is also suing the new york judge over the gag order. he imposed on him. lay this out for us. >> well, it was a one-two punch toy, wealth and lawsuit against the judge strange as that may sound, is actuall allowed under new york law. it's called an article 78 tion. and it's en you think a judge s done something that is so wrong, so illegal that u sue hito get an appellate

court to consider it before the trial has concluded, before the usual course of appeals the problem with donald trump's article 70, 78 action is the same one that afflicts the vast majority of them. they almost never work here. the gag order that has been put in place follows that that has been approved by other courts by judging goran in the civil fraud case against trump, by the dc circuit in the 2020 election interference case. it accords with first amendment principles and we've seen the threat that trump's words can constitute most dramatically as alleged by jack smith on january 6 the appellate court is very unlikely to strike down that gag order could tweak it, like the dc circuit did, but they're not going to strike it down. >> keri, are you surprised

trump is taking this step, suing the judge. and what could that mean for the case >> well, it is i mean, it's it's a specific thing to new york is norm was describing an avenue that he has available to him. i think his approach in these cases, and it's pretty evident is the fact that he's he will directed the attorneys to take every single possible potential legal avenue that there is to try to take things off course on the trial or at the very least delay them. and so if this was a potential legal channel available to him than it seems like he would direct as attorneys to go ahead ahead and try that, even if after time it determines that it is unsuccessful. >> three cordero der myosin to both of you. thank you very much coming up. donald trump is also weighing in today on abortion rights. why is due statement is generating backlash in his own party and beyond we'll be right back

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people on conservative social, social conservatives who are trying to get him to back this national ban, but also for more moderate conservatives who are very concerned over the idea that he might hurt his chances with independent voters voters, particularly when it came to abortion. so what we ended up hearing from him today was really what we had heard from him almost two years ago, that he was proud of overturning roe v. wade, but also that he believed that all decisions on reproductive rights should be handled by the states. take a listen i view is now that we have abortion where everybody wanted it from a legal standpoint the states will determine by vote or legislation, or perhaps both and whatever they decide must be the law of the land in this case the law of the state. >> now the statement on abortion has again open the door for democrats. they are attacking him, seizing on the fact that he never mentioned a national abortion ban, essentially saying that he was leaving the door open for

supporting a national abortion ban at some point. and i will tell you again, i spoke to senior advisers who said this was donald trump putting a button on the issue. this will be the campaign stance. of course something we'll wait and see. but interesting, we'll, he also was getting attack from his own side, from the right. in particular, his four vice president mike pence, who posted this on twitter. he said, social conservatives, excuse me as president trump's retreat on the right to life is a slap up in the face to millions of pro-life americans whwho voted for him in 2016. an 2020. >> again, this is an issue >> that is not only plagued republicans, but donald trump as well. he would have rather not talk about this at all. he doesn't believe as a political winner, but given his own public flirting with this national abortion ban, they felt like you needed to come out and say where he stood on the issue, wealth >> kristen holmes reporting for us. thank you very much. let's get some analysis right now from cnn senior political commentator scott jennings and cnn political commentator karen finney. karen trump appears to

be trying to appeal to republican leading women who've drifted away because of roe. can you can that work you think >> no. but i think you're right. look, i think he's actually trying to have it both ways. he's trying to find a place down the middle where he can appease the far right, which as we've seen in the early reactions, it hasn't quite worked and so that for people who are more moderate, as you point out, and who believe the government shouldn't have the ability to tell women what to do with their bodies that they sort of hear what they want to hear. the problem though wolf among many, is that what this also means is that the range of horror first that we're already seeing in the states were women and doctors are criminalized, were women's lives are endangered, will continue. >> i'm at the state level >> because basically he's trying to say he's for the status quo. what that means is women's lives will continue to be in danger scott, i want to

get your reaction to part of president biden's response in which he accuses trump of lying. let me put it up on the screen. the screen now, trump is scrambling. he's worried that since he's the one responsible for overturning roe, the voters will hold him accountable in 2024 so scott, how concerned should republicans be that voters will hold trump responsible >> well, look the voters who are motivated by this issue will absolutely hold donald trump responsible. and that cuts both ways for the pro-life voters who wanted to see rho go away he's responsible for it and for the people who lean karen's weight, they also hold trump responsible for it. the question is, is this going to be the top issue in the election? and that's really the friction between the two campaigns. the biden campaign wants this election to be largely about abortion and other cultural issues. the trump campaign they announced their position today, wolf on eclipse, because they're hoping this issue is eclipsed by the

economy, immigration, and the border. what have you and so whatever donald trump's position is, he said at today some people are happy, some people are not, the democrats are going to call them extreme in the real question is can democrats elevate this up? fine and make it more important than say, food prices or the border chaos, or crime. and i'm dubious, they can do that. >> qarrah, and i want to play another part of trump's statement today. listen to this you must follow your heart of this issue, but remember, you must also win elections to restore our culture. and in fact, to save our country. >> the key phrase in that quote, you must also win elections. how do you interpret that? >> well, i also heard him say to restore our culture. and so which means to me he's completed ghibli out of touch with the eight and ten americans who don't think that government should have a role in making these decisions for women. and i would just correct something on what scott said the way democrats are viewing this issue and voters that we're talking to.

>> this is >> a human rights issue. this is not a moral issue. this is about women's lives and women being able to make our our own decisions. now on the electoral portion of this wolf to your question. sure. >> again, donald trump, like anybody else, is looking at what has happened every single time, people have gone to the polls. and this has been on the ballot. and what's happened, republicans have lost and people, voters won't. they don't buy that. fifth jeanne weeks are 16 weeks is a limit. it's a ban. they understand it's a ban. and they've see what, how it's unfolding in their own lives. and so i think the main thing for trump is voters just are no, they can't trust him on this issue. and again, because it's human a human rights issue, it is an connected to democracy. i think it's going to be a pivot well issue in this election. >> i thought it was interesting, scott and former vice president mike pence immediately called trump's statement today a slap in the face to the millions of anti-abortion voters who supported him back in 2016 and

2020, does trump have a potential problem on his right flank? >> well, there are some pro-life conservatives who were very angry with trump today. they wanted to see him make a forceful moral argument about why abortion is wrong. >> he >> chose not to do that. certainly mike pence falls in that camp, the raul political calculation for trump though, is where are these voters going to go? they're certainly not going to vote for joe biden in who's been all over this issue for his entire career. he's held every position you can have on abortion, but today, he's the most liberal president we've ever had on this issue. so if you're a pro-life conservative and you're looking at two guys on the ballot, the trump bet is hey, you may not love my transaction elysium on this, but what are you going to do? vote for biden, and they're betting those folks couple of the other options they could do. scotus to vote, to simply stay home that could potentially be a big problem for trump as well. lifers are regular voters. they, they, they tend to turn out. >> i just mentioned though one thing with president biden as somebody who's worked on myself, who has worked on this issue for over ten years.

president biden's evolution on this issue actually represent dance what a lot of americans have gone through, and that is from someone who, from a perspective of initially faith, ma'am, said, this is not something i agree with, but then the understand i actually have been in meetings with the president when he was vice president and saw him come to understand what this issue means as a human, right? it's issue for women and in a democracy, how important it is that we have control over our bodies and our lives. so i think people see that. >> i think it's fair to say this is going to be a huge issue in this upcoming election. karen finney, scott jennings to both of you. thank you very, very much. just ahead. we're going to take you inside a triple rocket launch by nasa aimed at learning more about today's solar eclipse >> cardin, a cnn filled sunday, april 20, first at nine at planet fitness, you can get energy without the upsell

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television or with special glasses. nasa scientists were busy launching not one, but three rockets all designed to advance eclipse science so brian tatas, that gases facility out there on the eastern shore of virginia? brian, tell us about these launches that you got to see firsthand will three very exciting launches from this facility today with the goal of giving scientists some crucial information >> about how this eclipse might have affected our satellite communications if you blinked, you really could have missed it. >> and our first apec rocket is left the real in a matter of seconds, a so-called sounding rocket blasts off, then disappears from view at nasa's wallops island facility on the virginia coaston, traveling at about 6,000 miles an hour. three of these rockets carried special payloads tailored to the solar eclipse launched just before, during and just after the peak of the eclipse, each

rocket traveled about 260 miles above the earth to the ionosphere, the uppermost layer of earth's atmosphere that borders space once the motors are done burning, we will deploy booms that take measurements. and then we'll also deploy these swarm modules that shoot out away from the body of the payload >> the swarm canisters each about the size of a two liter soda bottle. and the booms are equipped with instruments to measure the disturbances in the ionosphere during the solar eclipse, nasa officials say they need to figure out how those disturbances impact things like satellite communications. >> layer of the atmosphere that scientists are studying for this mission is also where our satellites are at. and you use our satellites for communications. we rely on them daily. >> the sworn canisters floated around the ionosphere during the eclipse, took data transmitted get back to nasa, then we're programmed to drop back to earth hundreds of people flock to a special viewing area today to watch the rockets lift off. people like david kwame, who came from the dc areas. >> this isn't the combination

of all the wonders that we ever talked about, right from science. so the wonder of an eclipse the magic of what human karen can do to go observe it and bringing all those together. this is just a really exciting day between the rocket launches, the total eclipse, and the science of it. all it made for an exciting de, in the marshes of southern virginia. >> i've always wanted to see a rocket launch up close. i've always wanted to go into space as i just think it's really cool, this is my ideal job. i want to be in that building working on rockets like these, seen them get excited and amped about anything related to science were all about, of course one nasa official told us that while they receive the data from these instruments within minutes today, it will actually >> take months to actually analyze the data and really determine how this disturbance in the ionosphere from the eclipse might have affected our satellites wolf. >> very interesting. brian todd reporting for us, thanks. you, brian, very much coming up. the israeli prime minister benjamin, ateneo now says, he

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prime minister if he ends the war without invading rafah it's the latest layer of political pressure in fronting netanyahu was already facing a growing swell of protests calling for early elections and the hostage deal >> in the early days of so where are you really didn't see these kinds of mass demonstrations against the current government. there was a sense of wartime unity that it wasn't appropriate to protest. but now we're seeing more and more israelis coming now it's a protest, raising their voices against the current government and against benjamin netanyahu. >> none of us wanted to protest. we just want meant to survive. basically, how can protest when you're afraid for your life? might think we're not afraid for life at this moment and this is the temporary place for government. >> former prime minister ehud olmert says, netanyahu should resign, accusing him of putting the survival of his government above the interests of the country who can draw initial interest on the basis of personal interests the prime

minister that's what he was doing and therefore, he is not fit more than 50% of israelis think the same they don't trust him. they think that he is running the war on the basis of his personal interests aviv bushinsky, a former netanyahu adviser, says his former boss learn decades ago to always prioritize those who will keep him in power. >> never betray your natural allies they are his allies, his bodies he has to adhere to the we'll pay a heavy price political price, but this how his coalition is so crystal strong and solid >> despite the rhetoric from ben-gvir, netanyahu's right-wing partners don't seem inclined to pull the rug out from under him just yet. scom their mother holds for new elections from his chief rival war cabinet member benny gantz, >> israeli society needs to renew its contract with its leadership and increasingly

vocal criticism from the white house or drawing little more than signature defiance from the israeli prime minister can you a little shorter >> hamas, hamas hopes that >> the pressure from outside and inside, it will make israel surrender to these extreme demands. the pressure of the international community should be directed against hamas for now netanyahu is staving off early elections, which polls show he would likely lose to benny gantz, who is still >> mulling a potential exit from the wartime unity government what kind of impact you think you would have for him to leave this unity government? >> i think it will probably trigger the public reaction. the vulcano of the public bitterness and disappointment and rage with babies, government. and that will force early election because right now we've seen more and more people taking to the streets, but it's still not enough is what you're saying. >> it's moving in the right

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caputova truly historic season of excitement for a women's college basketball here in the united dates here saturday night live it's take a listen to this >> it's hard to get excited when i was better games on >> you mean the nba >> the women's tournament >> a woman are excited >> made the women's tournament is where the actions that, but we've got to talk about them into >> okay. fine. let's just get it out of the way. okay. the man's vinyl this monday is i believe between equipment at college versus northern southern state >> neither of those are real schools. so it's actually purdue, connecticut >> all right, let's bring in sports journalist and cnn contributor bob cost bob, as you know, the interest in the tournament was enlarged, part driven by iowa's caitlin clark, watch what she said after the game when i think about women's basketball going forward, obviously it's just going to continue to grow,

whether it's at the wnba level, whether it's at the college level, like everybody sees that >> everybody knows. everybody sees the viewership numbers. when you're given an opportunity, women's sports just kind of thrives she went not to say she hopes her legacy is helping to make women's sports as popular as ben's. how far has caitlin clark gone to make that a reality? >> caitlin clark has been a seminal figure back-to-back women's college player of the year. but the attention she brought lifted everybody else. do you think about dawn staley, the south carolina coach, three-time olympic gold medalist as a player. one another olympic gold medal as the women's coach three-time champion dealt women's college coach at south carolina, an excellent player herself obviously, people knew about her people within the sports community, but now there's more attention on her. there's more attention on the entire south carolina roster and everybody that i will played this year

there'll be a ripple effect. well, as many people watch her in the wnba is watched under these circumstances, no, but there will be a ripple effect this by the way, was the highest rated game, not just in women's history, the highest rated basketball game of any kind, men's or women's college, or nba in five years? >> yeah, it's really amazing when you think about it as you know, you kinda produ, takes center-stage later tonight in the men's championship, the three-point shot has dominated basketball for a long time, as we know, but these teams are unique in that they're both led by two seven foot big men talk about that yeah. >> yeah. donovan clingan, seven two for uconn and zach edey, who has been a real force in college basketball the last few years, in the middle of four, purdue, uconn is the defending national champion going for back-to-back. and until bam, a game live, a pretty good game until uconn pulled away in the late stages, they were blowing air everybody out in this ncw a tournament, purdue was a number one seed a year ago and lost to

a 16th seed, fairleigh-dickinso n. so they're on a redemption tour of their own. there should be a very good game tonight. >> yeah, it should be. and we'll be watching before i let you go today as you know, is 50 anniversary of hank aaron's breaking babe ruth record for career home runs. i know you knew how hank aaron well, talk a little bit about what the basic de and accomplishment that was >> you know, this is a moment that still resonates. i don't mean to diminish anyone else barry bonds on his natural merits is one of the greatest players of all time, but there is controversy surrounding him, and i think to a lot of people, he is the statistical homerun leader, but henry iran will forever be the home run king. that meant something different. 50 years ago. and it wasn't just a triumph of athletic skill. it was a triumph of character and will based on everything he faced, all that hatred, the hate mail, the death threats. he saw some of the worst of america, but he

triumphed and showed himself to be part of the best of america. there's a special respect that people feel for hank aaron beyond his baseball achievements and those achievements were monumental. >> what was it like to watch that moment? >> i'm sorry, say it again. >> what was it like to actually watch that moment that was history oh, yeah, i watched it on television. i was a college student at syracuse, but a huge baseball fan. and what really struck me was that so many people foolishly thought, oh, well, people will freak get about babe ruth. no, no, we had an eclipse today >> thank karen statistically eclipsed babe ruth, but he didn't consign them to the dustbin of history. babe ruth is still a figure of legend, just as no one's accomplishments, whatever they may be statistically, can eclipse hank aaron's place in history. >> he said it, well, i was a college student at the time. and i remember it the bob costas. thanks. very, very much into our viewers. thank you very much for watching. i'm