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revenge. i got to tell you, harry, i just went up in my roof and i saw a really pretty cool eclipse in new york city. you shouldn't just say of course, of course, then you didn't invite me to that roof. maybe i wouldn't have had the wouldn't have to come out to western new york to see clouds. i could have been on your roof with you enjoying it >> this is just a yet enough the reason why you should never leave new york city you know, i think that's exactly right. this is the reason why should never leave new york city. it the reason i'd never i've been to canada before, although i should say a lot of your viewers think that i should be joining canada. maybe you and i can go together to canada. it can be in my first experience north of the border of canada is one of the greatest countries in the world that the pupils are so incredibly nice. there was so was there one experience, a big take any takeaway from this? we only got a few seconds left >> yeah. i think my big experience in here is what you just said, stay in new york and less than two of us are going to canada because the truth has any time i leave the city, only bad things happen. all right? harry enten. thank you. i'm
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sorry. i didn't see it, but it will show you some videos. the news continues right here on cnn >> out front. next we've got breaking news. trump denied and time is running out. a judge killing his last-ditch effort to delay the hush money trial we have just obtained the jury questionnaire for trump's criminal trial that begins in six days. we're gonna go through that with you right now. >> plus a sight to >> behold, >> nearly every single american could see at least part of the eclipse sweeping across america if you had the glasses, 32 million people though we're in the path of totality. a stunning thing. one of the former nasa astronaut tells me it's like nothing has ever seen before. >> and >> marjorie taylor greene linking the eclipse to the new york earthquake as poked sign thanks to repent in america. this is her efforts to house the house speaker are making her even more powerful in the gop. let's go out front good evening i'm erin burnett outfront tonight we begin with breaking news. trump's last-ditch effort to delay
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denied. a judge, just rejecting the former president's request to delay his hush money trial, which starts in six days trump is trying to move the case out of manhattan and it comes just as cnn has obtained the crucial jury questionnaire, that potential jurors will have to answer in trump's first criminal trial, are paula reid obtain them and they offer a lot of important clues about the trial we're about to witness you've got questions ranging on whether jurors have supported any fringe groups like q and on to where they get their news, whether they've ever listened to certain parts i'd casts to whether they're married, all sorts of details and also questions like this. do you have any feelings of opinions about how mr. trump is being treated in this case. so what is 42 questions and all we're gonna go through it as trump is throwing every piece of spaghetti he can find at the wall and a final effort to avoid his facing judge jury in that first criminal trial. and just six days, he's also phonetically trying every last ditch effort to get his georgia election interference case tossed tonight, turning to the georgia court of appeals, his
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team writing that the former president's is quote, indictment wrongfully criminalizes core political speech and expressive contact protect, protected. i'm sorry. by the first amendment. remember this is the case where trump appeal to the secretary of state of georgia to find him votes that did not exist. listen >> i want to do is this. i just want to find 11,000 votes, which is one more that we have >> these two cases are not theoretical possibilities anymore in new york or georgia, they're real and they're happening. and in the case of georgia, the prosecutor promising the quote, train is coming and that she wants a trial this is very crucial in this one because it's different than the new york one. >> it will be >> televised. >> and so the whole country >> can see it coming into the final days of the election. she wants it to start in august. so let's get straight to paula reid on the breaking news tonight. and paula, you've gotten these jury instructions and the criminal trial in new
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york that they refer for too, is starting in just six days, even though he is trying one more hail mary after another here to try to delay it. >> yeah, trying unsuccessfully today that new york appeals court judge rejecting this last one minute efforts to pause the trial will trump continues to try to argue that this should be moved out of manhattan, and trump lawyers argued that pretrial publicity is making it impossible to get a fair trial, but process thank uterus area and they said, look, it's too late to do something like that when the way we will weed out bias jurors is through jury selection. and that's where the jury questionnaire comes in and you look through this, the question some of them were similar to the questions we saw during jury selection and the e jean carroll case. they ask where jurors get their news. they ask if they are anyone close to them, has ever worked for trump or attended a trump rally. they also ask about membership in extremist groups like the proud boys. and the oath keepers no again, these
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are questions that we have seen before. then they get more specific about this case, about feelings about trump himself. this is the process are in that prosecutors insist we'll help them weed out anyone who has a bias. no question. i'm getting a lot is how long is this going to take? remember in this case, there's only four days in a trial week because court is off on wednesdays, the most have a couple of religious holidays over the next few weeks. so this process of selecting a jury for this, the first criminal prosecution of former president trump could take a few weeks could take a few weeks just for the jury to be selected. all right. very significant, paula. thank you very much. paul. a breaking news and obtaining this questionnaire as well out front. now, ben's ginsburg, the longtime republican election lawyer, harry sandec, former assistant us attorney for the southern district of new york. and instead, herndon national political reporter for the new york times. so thanks very much. it's all of you here. >> you've been going through this juror >> questionnaire and as paula points out some of the questions in here are ones we saw before in the e jean carroll case. whether you've worked for trump, for example, where you get your news 42
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questions as she points out what stands out to you. >> sure. i think it's a very thoughtful approach. many of these questions are typical in any jury trial about the background of the juror and what they do, where they live, those types of things. but then they're aimed at trying to elicit people who can't be fair because of course, trump is entitled to have a fair trial of jurors who don't go in with a preconceived notion about his guilt and the judge has said that anyone who says i can't be fair, they'll just simply be excused, which will make the process take a long time, but will result one hopes and a fair trial, right. >> and you hope of course, if people give honest answers to all of these things, this isn't an odd moment in america, >> ben, what stands out to >> you as you look through this and interesting on the places where you get your news. i mean, sure, newsmax is on there msnbc, you've got all the but but then x tiktok, all of it, all of it is here, ben >> yeah, it is all there. and it's designed to obviously to try and get her with people are
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believing. i do think it's it's no that the judge center in his cover letter that the two sides had not agreed on the jury instructions, so that anticipates something we probably all knew alon, which is there going to be appeals on this that there will be station over the jury selection process and you're right, it is going to take an awfully long time, as paula said, weeks all right. put a pin in the appeals and the time it takes for one second. said just going through this, what stands out to you, it's interesting. they even go so far as to say, have you read certain books and listened to certain podcasts? >> yeah. i mean, i think it shows the painstaking process, the legal process goes through to make sure you weed out. folks have bias, but then my political hat thought and those that donald trump, no matter what the process is, very, very likely going to say that is biased against him no matter what ascii has been doing this whole time. i mean, they've had pretty much the same set of goals since these indictments came down last year to obscure
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the facts and also to delay this for long enough so that it starts blending in with him in the political calendar over the summer here fact that we are talking about the hush money case and not the january 6 cases. the trial that's going first. what's considered a victory for the trump folks, they wanted this case the kind of go for saying it gets easier to the folks have actually ingested the facts here, but i think that as this comes on, we do see polling say that maybe people will change their opinion if a conviction comes or as the election gets it's a little closer. so all of this case may not be the same in terms of severity substantively as the other ones. i don't think we should put it to the side and assume that it doesn't matter for vote. >> all right, so here what's the timing we're looking at here? you presume, interestingly, they didn't agree on the jury i guess so few things. is that normal and how long do you think if trump appeals that? what does that do to this six-day start? does anything changed that including his last-ditch effort for a change of venue today? >> sure. i don't think anything let me put this randomly. anything should change it. the fact that the parties didn't agree on the questions to put to the jury is very common. i'm in typically,
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each side, the government and the defense, they make proposals in the judge picks between pick some from one and some from the other to do what he thinks is fair. now, you can always appeal anything but typically the way it's done is not as you go, it's done after final judgment. so if trump challenges these questions or challenges he or anything else, it's not that he doesn't have a chance to challenge it. he will on appeal after a conviction if he's not convicted, they just basically say that the the conviction itself, if it happens, is biased that's right. therefore, should be thrown out. that's right. any legal error that he identifies, he'll be allowed to appeal at the end of the case. all right. so ben, what do you think happens here and does any of this in your mind add up to changing where this case goes in six days. and also if you could weigh in on how what's the timing air if it's going to take us weeks to even get a jury selected before you get an initial verdict >> i think paula was right about the time it is going to take it is going to take a
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matter of weeks given everything in this case and the holidays. so it is going to be a prolonged period. as for the substance of this case i think this is the weakest of the cases that have been brought against trump and there are going to be legal points in here in which trump actually has a pretty good argument but it's also true that this case is going to present a series of not so flattering fats about an instances that took place in this and that does stand to very much tarnished reputation. >> no matter >> what the outcome of the case is and how long the appeals which is interesting is said, because we are talking about things that have been very well litigated in the court of public opinion, right? whether people care that whether trump's slept with a porn star, people have opinions on that that were set prior to the first election. >> absolutely. i mean, we actually could talk to people about this case. they feel like it's old news. i mean, as we talked folks across the
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country, people bring up the fact that he hasn't been criminally indicted about january 6, and we're looking at the special prosecutor, even things like taking the documents cut through because of the mar-a-lago search, when we think about this case specifically, every time i've heard someone bring this up, it's kind of a confusion as to why this has been relitigate it right now, i think that should be separate from that kind of legal questions pc here, but politically trump is going to try to use that to his vantage. what we ask about why these appeals are happening some of it is because he wants to be able to make the political argument in a public arena about them. so they may fail and they might delay the trial. all of that is a possibility, but we know he's going to try these to weaponize it against the process itself. >> and harry, you're in terms of when you look at the georgia attempts to delay on fani willis, which failed thus far. and again, in this case, do you anticipate both of those going ahead? >> i do think that that trial we'll go ahead the grounds that were argued for the appeal about this being free speech. that seems like a real long shot. you're not allowed to say anything that you want that's not what the first amendment protects. that's and
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i thought the judge's decision about whether to disqualify the district attorney seemed like a balanced decision saying that she couldn't have this one particular lawyer working on the case due to the appearance, but not disqualifying her entire office, which is a drastic step, and said quick final word to you in terms of paying for all this trump's trying to raise money and have other people pay for it. but to the extent that he's had to pay for there's some things himself, even some of the judgments in the manhattan real estate valuation case is net worth has been affected and you've done a deep dive on that. what have you found, especially in light of truth social, which is now like the lion's share of his net wealth worth for a brief moment, even though it may be f mural to say the least the right? >> exactly. last week we focused on trump's finances for our podcast and vulcano through is really the person doing it, extreme juggling act. and so the money has dwindled these using to pay for other people, other people's funds that pocket the money has gone away. so you might have to sit further into those personal funds to basically be able to pay for the legal expenses coming forward, you have to judgment. certainly you have the legal trials. certainly.
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you also have a political campaign that is bleeding dry. the biden campaign is raising so much more money than donald trump. and partially that is because his money is tied up in five different places right now, so much so that it's not just the brand that's being affected. it actually his ability to legally his ability to actually do the things he wants to do politically and personally now, which is a huge thing to actually say, it's in the past, he always had that ability. it was always didn't want to use his own my now a very different story that you paint. all right. i said, thank you, harry. thank you, ben. thank you. great to see all of you and next, a spectacular show from texas to maine, a rare solar eclipse turning de into night for millions now cars lined up for miles because guess what, it's time to go home. these are live pictures outside of indianapolis, which was in the path of totality plus marjorie taylor greene lives i've been georgia at a town hall where she's tripling down on calling for speaker mike johnson's head. how the fringe congresswoman is growing ever more powerful than the gop tonight plus a top staffer for
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>> tonight, live pictures near indianapolis, heavy traffic >> wow that looks absolutely miserable, but maybe they're all in such a great mood because they were there at the center of the path of totality from that rare solar eclipse today they had that moment. 32 million people in the path today altogether as the moon cross mexico, texas border, and across 15 states massive crowds gathering to take in the spectacular sight looking up as a whopping 99% of americans were able to clubs catch at least a glimpse, a glimpse of partial eclipses. bill weirs outfront every day, the shadow of the moon bounces willy nilly across the lifeless milky way. and when it hits earth, it mostly darkens ocean or ice with no human witnesses. >> that >> darkness has >> settled into kerrville, texas but on this day random fate sent that shadow on a north american tour, like no
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other and from mexico to the maritimes, that shadow moved people >> weep and share >> marry i love you. and propose you marry me >> it moved >> animals, triggering both flamingos and penguins at the dallas zoo to bunch their flocks tighter for nighttime safety, the penguins are all clustered together. the flamingos are all clustered together. other birds joining together the swath of darkness over 100 miles wide moved clouds and dropped temperatures by ten >> degrees, that chill in the air is getting cooler and cooler but for science lovers, what did you think it will
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chill use for other reasons, it was incredible >> you know, i've seen several solar eclipse. is this though, was the best i've ever seen he saw the diamond ring effect and then baily's beads and the sun coming through the mountains >> and with the sun less blinding the normal, this was also a rare chance for nasa to use high flying planes and rockets to study the sun's corona and the massive eruptions of plasma happening as it son's cycles through its most active phase. solar storms have the potential to destroy satellites and fry entire electrical grids so scientists are hungry for clues that could help predict space, weather >> so amazing >> though soc when you look at some of the things they're trying to do, and nasa has a moment like this to observe what were they trying to learn >> well >> the power
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>> of this star that really gives us life. it lists or moods tanzer skin, but it's also a thermonuclear bomb that's been called off billion years. and on an angry de, it emits enough electrical power, enough energy from those spasms in the plasma that could. really fry the electrical grid here on earth are really wreck havoc with our satellite systems that keep us connected through gps and weather and finances so their study seeing that they're studying the ionosphere that charged particles, that sort of crackle around the earth is the sun comes up. i now and it's just that artificial so shade that science enjoyed today. let's them study stuff that normally you can't see because the sun is so bright also, an amateur radio operators ham radio well operators bouncing their signals off the ionosphere to see how it's altered by this. but what a de, of just pure human connection, whether you're an astrophysicist or seventh grade you can see faces light up. most people saw it
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despite warnings of cloud cover. all in all, a nice nonpartisan uniting force of nature across america erica, in the next one to give you perspective, aaron, toddlers today will be old enough to drink for the next total eclipse in the united states, 22 years from now wow >> that's just something sobering to think about. >> fight indented. all right. >> thank you very much >> and i want to go now to former now as astronaut mike mess amino, who has traveled to space twice, also the author of moonshot and nasa astronauts guide to achieving the impossible. so my people traveled from all over the country to be in the path of totality. and i know people who travel around the world constantly looking for these things. you know that there's, there's something spiritual about it. something that touches the soul. you made the journey from new york to run seville, arkansas, to go to one of the best viewing spots in the country. and you shared some of your images from today with us tell me what what did it mean to you earn it was it
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was amazing. i have gotten to see some amazing things during my space flights, but i would say this is the most amazing event that i've witnessed here on the planet as far as our relationship with the cosmos and our in our being here on this planet and how we are part of this cosmic dance between the sun and the moon and the stars. this was quite an event and it was the totality of it. i'd seen other partial eclipses, but this was the first good weather total eclipse that i had been able to deserve to see that diamond ring that it looked like a halo in the sky. it was emotional and to be there with some of my family members and with a very nice community made it even more special. >> i'll never forget. i i've only seen one total eclipse. i saw it today, but i was not in the exact totality i've only seen one in my life stumbled upon it. yeah. an unforgettable day in my life, but, you, mike,
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this is the thing when you say the most incredible thing you've seen in, array, you have seen some of the most amazing things that human can see. in fact, that so few humans have seen spaceflight. you shared images with us, but that's not the same as being there yourself, right? for spacewalks you work held, travel 1,300 miles for the eclipse from the upper west side, manhattan. where are you still would have had a pretty darn good. you just barely outside the path of totality >> what made it worth it? >> well i had heard that >> getting to >> totality is a big difference than even seeing like 99%. >> yeah. and i >> had heard this from sources that i trust. and their right. are you really was different. it was the whole thing was kinda cool to see the moon current ban and the sun gets it, gets eaten away little by little like a pac-man and then when it goes and you can remove your glasses again and it's dark and it's cool. and you're looking up at it astonishing sight. it's something about it that no photo can really do it
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justice. it's being in that moment and noticing that in real life, this is something that only happens is you said it's not going to happen again here in the for 22 years in you're witnessing it for a few minutes. it is worth the trip. it really is, and i'm so glad i did so >> one of this thing and i guess this and other events recently all in their own different ways, whether it be earthquake or crazy weather have made us all realize how vulnerable we are, right? how things happen outside of our control and, you especially in the context now, we worry so much about the environment and climate change. >> one >> of the things bill mentioned in his report right? there was a point in some places where the temperature dropped as much as ten degrees during the eclipse. so in just a few quick moments, now we all feel that when a cloud goes over the sun, and yet somehow experiencing it in the context of what we saw today was quite different i mean, what that's an incredibly it's an incredibly large and swift a change in temperature
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>> it's a >> reminder of >> how dynamic and fragile things are, i think because when we end, you said and when it gets cloudy out it's a lot different than when the sun is shining on us, but it's really the same reason during the eclipse, it's just that less solar radiation is reaching the surface and reaching us. so it's cool or we feel a cooler temperature with the moon blocking the sun. it perfectly blocks it. the moon the site is 400 times larger than our moon, and it's also coincidentally 400 times further away than our moon. so that when we get a total eclipse, like we had today, it perfectly blocks it out. and so that we're seeing a total blackout for those minutes of of of that reduction in solar radiation and that's why we get that huge temperature drop. we see the effect of what the sun does to us and how fragile that can be when it's blocked. >> yeah. i mean, what an amazing thing when you say 400 times larger, 400 times farther away, even in the context of the billions and trillions, whatever, there's no word for the number of stars out there,
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just to think of the odds of such a perfect ratio coming even in the context of our sadly average little son that does give us everything. >> all right. thanks so much. i appreciate it. >> thank you. next republican congresswoman marjorie >> taylor greene's war with their own party heating up tonight, threatening to house the house speaker and blow up the house if she does not get her way >> how dare he go on tv and say it's his top priority to fund ukraine for 60 million dollars >> plus trump taking a lot of heat tonight from conservatives after opting not to support a national ban on abortion it's a. >> new >> day. >> when were shared values propel us towards a more secure future. >> through >> august of partnership built upon cutting-edge american australian, and british technologies will develop state-of-the-art next
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house that i voted for two sell us out i will not tolerate it >> comes as green again is making headlines for social media posts. the latest linking the eclipse to the new york earthquake and calling them all strong signs to quote, repent sunlen serfaty is out front this majority is a failure reason. the >> why don't you gauff rash? and >> ever the provocateur know, i reclaim my time. you're a liar. congresswoman marjorie taylor greene is holding the reins at the center of the effort to take down speaker mike johnson, threatening to throw the republican party into chaos. >> it's more of a warning and a pink slip since filing the motion to vacate green only intensifying and her attacks, mike johnson >> has hey literally turned into mitch mcconnell, twin and warned democrats slinging political arrows directly at
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the leader of her own party. >> he is a fool, stable, and he's, he's a liar >> greene said off by the spending package johnson negotiated two avoid a partial government shutdown. the current >> speaker of the house we have right now is getting rolled in every single meeting. he is negotiating from weakness and we have loss competence. is there any >> johnson calling her move a distraction, just trying to send a message. i respect the message. i share. her again, her her frustration about about the process with some republicans dismissing her as unserious. >> nobody cares what marjorie taylor greene says or thinks she's a one man and show she's grandstanding and she wants attention >> the congresswoman has trafficked in some of the moos deeper conspiracy theories are bringing the most questionable views and wild opinions to the us capital green claiming this weekend that today's eclipse and friday's earthquake in new york are assigned from god to
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repent and warning about things to come? >> yes, eclipses are >> predictable and earthquakes happen and we know when comments are passing by. however god created all of these things and uses them to be signs for those of us who believe greene isn't elected it should denier today. >> i'll be objecting to a stolen election. we can't allow >> this to happen before coming to congress was acu and on sympathizer promoting conspiracy theories for his about the september 11 terror attacks. >> this so-called plane that crashed into the pentagon and mass shootings. you guys are being >> used. that's right used by the left because you're young, anger been tricked and having your second amendment slowly chip away and taken away from you and anti-semitic conspiracy theories out about jewish space lasers let's about juice by now. >> why don't, why don't you go talk about jewish space lasers once claiming that the deadly wildfires in california in 2018 were caused by a laser from space, possibly controlled by the ras child investment
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bake conspiracy theory. she was forced to apologize for after taking office in 2021 these were words of the past and these things do not represent me >> now the next big question is, will marjorie taylor greene followed through with this threat to get rid of speaker johnson now that she has filed that motion to vacate, chanel has to bring it to the floor. now, after it's brought to the floor, she will officially have to legislative days. is to try to force a vote to oust him. but aaron, she has so far not revealed the timeline of how all this will unfold >> all right, sunlen, thank you. you very much. and let's go now to the former republican congressman ken buck, who was one of the eight republicans who had voted to oust, then speaker kevin mccarthy so congressman you heard sunlen talk about some of the conspiracies green has pushed over the years. and obviously now saying that, you know, if, if the speaker doesn't do what she wants regarding ukraine, she's gonna go ahead what she
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can now do, right. just takes one to force a vote on the speakership. does it worry you that she has this much power in the house of representatives? >> well, marjorie has this much power because we have such a small majority at this point in time mike johnson, the speaker, is on the right side of history and marjorie is on the wrong side of history. we know that russia is propagating these false statements narratives about what's going on in ukraine. we know that she is getting her talking points from russia. and we know that they're false and mike johnson is doing the responsible thing by trying to make sure we get a vote on ukraine funding, make sure that the ukrainian people can fight for their freedom the fact that marjorie is continuing down this false path. i don't think many republicans are going to support her. there will be some and i expect that the democrats recognize this moment in history and the importance of being bipartisan in supporting my johnson while we will see
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that and that's a whole another can of worms, i guess as we could say, but it congressman, she has been going after >> speaker johnson over ukraine funding, obviously specifically, but then she just recently suggested to tucker carlson something that took me aback. she had no evidence to back it up, but she's said that the whole reason that he may be doing this is because johnson maybe being blackmailed. let me just play the exchange >> mike johnson has made a complete departure of who he is and what he stands for and to the point where people are literally asking, is he blackmailed what is wrong with him? because he's completely disconnected with what we want. do you >> think he is being blackmailed >> i have no idea >> all right. so she's saying people are literally asking you to being blackmail. ben says she has no idea when tucker asked her again do you take this seriously
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>> no, i think it's irresponsible >> as so >> many of the statements that marjorie has made over the years are completely irresponsible. the idea that somehow the speaker is corrupt because he believes that we should be supporting an ally that spin invaded by a war criminal, vladimir putin. and the idea that somehow anybody who is in agreement with, ukraine and our nato allies is corrupt it's just another distraction that she uses to take away from the core arguments that are so important so when you talk about her, it is, it is a bit different obviously than what the man you voted to remove a speaker, kevin mccarthy said about are in fact this weekend, he said this about congresswoman green the one thing i've always found about margery, she's a very serious legislator that deals with policy and the best way to deal >> with anyone like that is sit down and talk to him. you've
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worked with or more >> recently, did what he say add up to you at all and well i think kevin is much more experienced talking to marjorie about policy than i do. first of all secondly my experience with marjorie is people have talked to her about not filing articles of impeachment on president biden before he was sworn into office. i'm not filing articles of impeachment that were groundless beit on other individuals and the biden administration. and she was never moved by that. she was always focused on her social media account and moscow marjorie is focused now on this ukraine issue and getting are talking points from the kremlin and making sure that she is popular and she is getting a lot of coverage all right. >> well, congressman, i appreciate your time and your blunt non his words. thank you very much. i appreciate, sir >> thank you. >> next, we've got breaking news. the special counsel, jack smith has just filed a brief with the supreme court on
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prosecution for things he did in and around january 6 and efforts to subvert the election because he has presidential immunity. this is an argument that was rejected by the trial court, was rejected by the court of appeals. here are the supreme court is taking it up. it will be the subject of a much anticipated supreme import argument next week. now, here they make arguments. they say the special counsel says, quote, the absence of any prosecutions of former president's until this case. and does not reflect the understanding that presidents are immune from from criminal liability. it instead underscores the unprecedented nature of petitioners alleged conduct. they described the charges against him, aaron, as, quote, an unprecedented assault on the structure sure. of our government. so here they are asking the court to reject this argument and to do it quickly. >> yeah. i mean, it's interesting and as they go through, as you point out it saying that nixon's acceptance of a pardon was also making it clear that he felt that there needed to be a pardon because he was subject to prosecution for acts he committed during
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water great while he was in office. so going through and laying all of this out ultimately, though, paula, as you point out, this is the arguments are supposed to be next week. this is all about timing, right? >> yeah. and lift the special counsel has to be frustrated because aaron months ago, he asked the supreme court to just step in and decide this issue. don't wait for it to go through the appellate court and then take it up because he he knew that process could potentially make it impossible to bring this case before the november election. the supreme court declined to do that. they let it go forward with an appeal. now they are hearing this on an expedited basis, but we still don't expect it opinion right now until late june and then even though judge tanya chutkan, the judge overseeing this case, has said she would move pretty quickly. she would like to bring this as soon as possible. she still has to give both sides some time, perhaps a few months to prepare. so we're talking about late summer at the earliest. so timing is such a critical issue here. the
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trump team is even floated the idea that maybe they could just toss it back down to the lower court for more proceedings again, or that wouldn't necessarily be a win for them, but it would be a win in terms of this goal of getting it pushed back until after the election. and i remind people the reason he wants to push back until after the election, because if trump is reelected, he will make both of these cases go away >> all right, paula, thank you very much. as paula continued used to go through that, she'll be back. i've she sees more for you to know about this also comes tonight as vice president, harris is slamming trump. >> the former >> president, ties to big announcement on abortion but the takeaway was just to put it to the states. harris is warning that trump would go much farther to restrict abortion rights, though if given the chance >> if you were to be put back in a position where he can sign off on a law. he would sign off on a national abortion let's be very clear about that >> what trump's decision coming nearly two years after the supreme court overturned roe v. wade also criticized by many
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republicans who are demanding a national abortion ban today as well out front now alabama's state representative, maryland land, she's a democrat who rece fed to republican he district after taking inudg by opening up and talking out e abortion tha she went tough more than 2 yes ag i appreciate your ti, representative land therare me may republicans say, tsay trump punted. why would he pthis to the stateshe shoulhave gone back t50 teeweek abortio ban. others of course, wish she wouluch farther onhe publican side. but you think that what trump said tay by punting it to the sts evore dangerous. h come? >> well i'm finding lip little solace in this today and i know my constituents. i've talked to so many women and families and they are fed up and i just i feel like alabama has become ground zero for attacks on women's health care and reproductive freedom and i
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think my victory sent a real message not just to our state, but to the country that this is unacceptable. >> so trump in his announcement today about where he's going to fall on this at least for now gave a four-minute video. and among other things, he also said this representative it must be remembered that the democrats or the radical ones on this position, because they support abortion up to and even >> beyond the ninth month. the concept of having an abortion and the later months and even execution after birth. and that's exactly what it is the baby is born, the baby is executed after birth is unacceptable and almost everyone agrees with that i know you're sort of >> recoiling even listening to that representative. what do you what do you say to someone like trump who is talking about executing >> that doesn't happen. and what i say is that we need to
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return to roe versus wade, that, you know, that held us for 50 years and the government just does not need to be involved in these heartbreaking decisions. it's just not a place for government it's, it's people's private medical decisions and it should be between a woman, her family, and her doctor and her god so what i want to ask you about this though, that maybe goes a little bit contrary to a house some see it, but i just want to open the door to this. you have some republicans publicly criticizing trump for not going far enough that he supported a national ban mike pence, who's said he won't even be able to vote for trump is calling it a slap in the face. an anti-abortion group says they're deeply disappointed. lindsey graham is upset some of his loyalists, but you know, of course represented voters have shown even in red states like kansas and ohio, your state with your election, that they support abortion rights so are you worried that trump may
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muddy the waters on abortion? assume that he's got the far right. already going to back him, and that this position to go for states rights may make him more palatable to other voters that this could affect what a winning issue this is for democrat i think that what i found in my election is that i had a lot of republican >> support and i feel like people are really fed up and they're ready for change, their ready for something different and i feel like the republic blinken's are very confused on this at the moment. and i know my opponent, you know, wouldn't come out and talk about it. i think they're missing the mark here. i think they're out of touch >> all right. well, representative lands. i appreciate your time and thank you so much for being with me tonight. next here what a top rfk junior staffer is telling republicans whether you support bobby or trump.
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smell as good as humanly possible >> this source with kaitlan collins tomorrow at nine tonight, get rid of biden. those are the exact words of rfk >> juniors, new york state director in a meeting with new york republicans, which was captured on video the only way for him for bobby to shake it up and to get rid of biden is if he's on the ballot in every state >> including new york, whether you support body or trump we all oppose biden. and my thoughts are that that's the number one priority in the country >> a campaign spokesperson telling cnn, the state director is quote, not involved in electoral strategy, but those comments come as biden's own coalition is far from locked in. and so tonight, remain marsh has the latest in our voters outfront series >> this november will be the first time lani white and rokia garbo will be old enough to
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vote in the presidential election >> and >> just the second time when we cool and most insurer will casta presidential ballot. none are planning to vote for joe biden or donald trump. >> if i were to vote tomorrow, i wouldn't vote. period. ideally, i would like to vote third party oh, for an independent candidate. i'm >> considering either voting for claudia dela cruz or cornell west at this point. if there is no substantive policy change when it comes to the genocide in gaza, then there's not really a discussion for me when we met at this barbecue restaurant in atlanta off for told me they were raised an democrats, b this ar the president's handli of th israel-ga has tued the away. >> i think what biden has done in aiding and abetng genocide i'd is just something i cannot stand for. >> you're willing to withhold your vote in the presidential election unless there is a ceasefire? yes. >> and it's implemented? yes.
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what not voting in could mean donald trump gets into office. do you think he'll be better on gaza? >> trump would probably say flatten gaza and make it into a golf course. >> i >> have absolutely no faith in him could you not say that also the people who are not voting for one of the two people who are the likely people to really be in this race have a >> role to play? in kind of giving the race to donald trump in a state like georgia where it's going to be like razor thin. >> i'll do you one better actually, i think that just means that's why the democrats shouldn't listen exactly >> radical and more tapped in than their peers is how the group describes themselves. rokia, even helping to organize this demonstration in atlanta last october calling for peace and aid for the palestinian people while they don't speak for the majority of black voters, they're descent poses a real concern for democrats in battleground states like georgia, where biden won by fewer than 12,000 votes. black
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voters under age 30 made up only about well, 6% of voters in georgia is 2020. that group voted for joe biden by more than 50 points. >> we are holding there election in the palm of our hands and they're not listening. >> we're tired of just hearing him say things, these empty promises. we have no trust and joe biden, the republican party isn't earning their vote either both sides or just iga >> nothing is being done for us if enough people vote third party, we can win. that's my thoughts. >> president biden's campaign has touted his success on key issues affecting young voters, including student loan forgiveness, lowering unemployment, and tackling inflation >> still though, i don't feel it people may be employed, but can they survive off of what the federal minimum wage has stayed the same since 2009. i was five and 2009, i'm 20 years old well, i work at goodwill now for $12 an hour and cost of living keeps increasing especially here,
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what could president biden do to? change your mind as far as how you vote in november, kfar permanent ceasefire and actually implemented, i would like us to stop giving aid to israel if he doesn't get elected. that is his fault. that's not our fault. and that's not the black voters here. that's not xyz know, it's on him >> while maga inc. the super pac supporting trump has spent more than half $1 million for ads on black radio hoping to woo those unhappy biden voters. and aaron, we ask the biden campaign about this senate that. we're seeing among some of these young black voters. and they framed it as a race between a president that actually cares about making life better for americans, even if they haven't felt the full impact just yet. and another candidate who they say, and i'm quoting, cares only about his rich friends and himself. all that said aaron, they realized this dissent is there, and they are working. they say it is their priority to turn it around. >> we shall see it rea