in the world >> yeah. i mean, i think about it when i look at it through the lens of parents, right? this is a really scary type of abuse and i think the biggest thing i would say to parents is it's important to sit down with your sons tell them that this is actually digital abuse. that if these types of ads come up in high school, that it's not okay to gamify or point a camera at someone and quote, digitally undress them using ai. it's almost hard because parents don't even know that. we need to have these conversations, but these conversations need to happen because not only are we creating a new generation of victims but this type of technology when misused, is creating a new generation of abusers. >> yeah, it's a new form of a talk that you might have to have with both your sons and your daughters hopefully, the laws will catch up soon because if it's here now, it's not in the future. laura segall. thank you very much. looking forward to seeing the results of this investigation and thu so

much for watching news night. laura coates live starts right now >> raw. emotion in a michigan courtroom sends a historic message to parents in america. you can be held accountable for your child's actions. plus a law that was passed during the civil war, now banned daily all abortions and arizona and one republican is calling it an asinine ruling and a warning from retired military leaders about donald trump's claims of presidential immunity going all the way to the supreme court tonight. and laura coates live so what happened in the michigan courtroom >> today has never happened before in this country, the first parents to be held criminally responsible for a mass school shooting carried out by their son. will they have now been sentenced. james and jennifer crumbley, whose son shot four fellow students to death in 2021 each sentenced

to ten to 15 years in prison weeks after being cricketer their own cases separately of manslaughter. remember they were accused are purchasing the gun, billing to secure it and ignoring signs of mental health issues in their son, both apologizing today and jennifer crumbley backtrack that are previous api that she wouldn't have done anything differently. now, she says she was misunderstood >> this was not something i foresaw with the benefit of hindsight and information i have now, my answer would be the drastically different as a parent are big sphere >> this >> losing our child were children and lose a child? >> i my heart is really >> broken for everybody involved >> so yes what happened in the michigan courtroom was about the law

>> there was also >> about four teenagers who died in their school where they were supposed to be safe hana st. juliana, 14 years old, tate myre, 16. justin shilling, 17, and madisoldwin also, just 17 years old. they died when their lives had hardly begun, when they had so much to look forward to in life what happened today in that courtroom. it was about them. there's also about their families and their communities and their victim impact statements that phrase has always bothered me just sounds so routines, so legal clinical. it doesn't begin to express the emotion behind those statements made by those impacted by what has happened the anguish of mothers and fathers and siblings whose lives are changed forever on the de, the people they loved were killed listen to nicole beausoleil, who is the mother of madisyn baldwin, fighting back tears while speaking

directly to jennifer crumbley while you're son was hearing voices, and asking for help i was helping madisyn, pick your classes while you were purchasing seeing a gun for your son and leaving it a lot i was helping her finished your college essays >> when you knew the gun was missing, you all the police, knowing it was your son who took it i was having family call every hospital describing what she looked like when you texted ethan, don't do it 16 madison, i love you. please call >> when you found out about the levs your son took that day i was still waiting for my daughter in a parking lot while

you were hiding i was planning her funeral and why you were running away from your son and your responsibilities >> i was forced to do the worst possible thing, apparent good. do i was worse as i go by the way madison >> you don't have to be a mother or father to hear that emotion, to feel the anguish in her voice to empathize with what she must have been enduring. and so many others she lost her child at the hands of a schoolmate what happened in that michigan courtroom today? it was about those families and those teenagers and it was also about something else accountability. james and jennifer crumbley are going into prison their son is already behind bars now, if you're a parent, you may be held accountable for the actions of your child if you're

a gun maker, you may be held accountable. if you're a social media company, you may be held accountable because congress seems unable to offer anything other than well, thoughts and prayers now i want to bring in mary molar, her son elijah, suffered a gunshot wound to the face at the oxford high school shooting he survived also with mia, sarah rodgers, and she is 11 is aunt and a community gun violence prevention advocate ladies, thank you both for joining me tonight. i mean, it's unimaginable every time you even reflect on what has happened there and other places as well. married, let me begin with you. and your son, elijah suffering from that gunshot wound during that mass shooting back in november of 2021. thank god he survived. >> but how always he doing today >> well, it depends on the day. he has ptsd and anxiety

understandably and he's back in the building at the high school. he goes there every day. i don't know how he does it, but he does. and he's doing really well on all of his classes and he's a mural early college program but its day-to-day struggle >> i mean, i can't as you say that the idea of returning to where that was, the strength that he must be demonstrating is unimaginable marry, you were over in that court today or you heard about at ten to 15 years for both the parents of the oxford school shooters two shooter who did this what is your reaction to that sentence >> it brings some closure and validation for the things that we've been saying with the parents. it's always not been about what they did do, but what they didn't do and what they didn't pay attention to and what they didn't act on and what they didn't listen to so it's actually comforting to

know that the court system sees that mcs that we need accountability for it, but it's also a little empty it doesn't solve any other problems that we face as a nation regarding community gun by i don't at all. there's no prevention in it. it's on the other side of it. night rather, focus on the prevention. so that no other community has to deal with this i want to talk about that very point and sarlin, bring you into this as well because after her sentencing, jennifer crumbley made this statement a kind of warning to others. listen to this this could be any parents here up here, my shoes, even could be your child. to be your breath, check, your knees, your nephew your brother, your sister, your child, make a fateful decision, not just what the gun, but i'm not a vehicle intentionally or unintentionally if there's anything the general public can take away from this, is that this could happen to you too

>> sarah, when you hear that statement and the work you've been doing about trying to advocate for changes to prevent this. what is your reaction? >> well, in this particular case, it's frustrating to hear that from this particular parent because it's not intended to rally the community. it's intended to diffuse responsibility. but if we take it in a different context and really sort of take, it in a more productive direction my hope is that in addition to a deterrent effect, this, these prosecutions and these sentences which are unique and hopefully will deter or make parents think who own guns, think twice about their security measures i also hope it's an incentive community incentive for an all community approach to the reduction of community gun violence, including peer-to-peer safe storage education, parents parent and investments, real

investments in social, emotional learning, and gun violence prevention, which is vastly underfunded in terms of race search into what works and what doesn't work. and then things that we know work like threat assessment teams and making sure that those are operating properly. and every county in every district all over the country, >> you and mary also say that there are some proposals to the point you're just raising that have been made in the wake of shootings, don't really solve the problem. you address metal detector vectors, bulletproof glass, clear backpacks, or they just not enough? and why >> yeah. i mean, not only not enough, but in some cases harmful to other kids so these are all policing or hardening measures. they've been called in other in other conversations around this issue. and really what we know works is supportive action for our kids it's the same cost or a

similar costs these security companies prey on fear and say, this is the answer when studies are showing that it's really investments, again, social, emotional learning, and threat assessment teams that are going to make the bigger impact in terms of reduction of community gun violence and prevention of mass shooting thanks mary. >> i'd love for you to weigh in as well. and what you think would be the next steps to try to stop this from happening >> well, i come from the perspective of the school system. i'm a teacher and have been for 20 years and i see the need for building strong relationships with kids and their families, not only within the school, but the community at-large we don't necessarily i know this is a societal issue. we don't necessarily talk to our neighbors. and i know that sounds simplistic, but the more connections we have the more we can look out for each other >> well, i tell you the world is truly connected to your families and just saying what has happened here and just

hoping that it does not happen again. but our eyes are towards your communities and thinking of a construction ways. married before you go, i'd love to ask you if you had a chance to speak directly to jennifer crumbley or has been a mother to mother, parent to parent. >> what would you say >> i'm i might talk to her about the difference between having feeling regretful and fueling remorseful. >> i'm >> not sure that jennifer and james crumbley really understand the impact of their negligence and it would i would come and sit down as a mother to a mother. and not accusatory, but maybe explain this is what's happening. >> and i'm not sure you get it >> thank you. both married mother, sarah rodgers, and thank you. and we certainly hope that elijah continues to thrive thank you

>> now, i want to turn to the state of arizona, traveling back in time we're talking way back in time, not not even this century or the last century, more like all the way to the year 18, 64. >> what was going on then? well, for one thing as civil war was raging on top of that, it was a time when women in this country had no right to vote. it's also when a law forbade abortion, except to save a mother's life. and arizona, by the way, that was long before arizona was even a state. well, that law is now set to go back into effect. the arizona supreme court ruling today that the 18, for law which sat dormant for decades, can be enforced why? >> well, because roe v. wade had been overturned during analysis handful commentator and national coalitions director for the biden harris, 2024 campaign. ashley allison,

and former national republican book and senatorial committee aid. >> liam >> donovan. thank you both so much for being here. i mean, you see the rewind of that clock. i see your eyes right now who cannot hide for expressions on her face. and this moment, where should you have to, what is your reaction fact that this is happening right now? >> i'm not surprised. >> we've known that the attack on bodily autonomy has been at risk for some time. and when the fall of roe happened in 2022 we knew that there would only be a matter of time when i say we people who've worked in reproductive justice, social justice work, we've been warning that this it was only a matter of time that we were going to rewind the clock back to go to these this time in our history, when women didn't have the right to vote to your point, we were fighting a civil war so that folks could be free. and the reason why we are here is because in 2016 when donald trump was running to be pressed president, he said he was going to appoint supreme

court justices that wanted to overturn roe. and so they did. and just recently he says he wants to take it back to the states. that's his position on abortion. well, this is what happens when you take it back to the states. you get a law that was founded in 18, 64 my thing, final thing i'll just say on this is that so often when we talked about donald trump's campaign slogan, make america great again, people often thought it was just about race. >> well, >> this is how an attack on women. and so in 18, 64 women didn't have their full rights. black people didn't have their full rights. and so many others didn't have. this is the country that people who identify with agha republicans want and the question is, i'm not surprised that happened. is the question is, what will we do as voters to put a stop to it? >> lamb, i mean, it's there, there's obviously a lot of fallout from this. there had been followed even from bands that had six week or even 12 week proposed are 15 week proposed welcome back in the clock. republicans are well aware this is a major issue on the campaign trail that spans party lines. how will this

impact the elections? >> so i think anything that raises the salience of abortion in the next 209 days for counting out that's how far it is. >> counting out to her. nine yar >> if you're with the trump campaign, you're feeling pretty good general. you've led this race for the last about six months. he's pulling better than he's ever pulled in the previous two races. he's leading in six to seven battleground states. actually, i'll seven if you look at the full ballot so you're playing prevent defense, you want the election to happen tomorrow. if you look at the issue matrix that out, it's out there were mostly thinking about cost of living. we're talking about immigration, things like that. so as these things pop things related to immigration or excuse me, related to abortion, we had the alabama case. we have this case. there's a florida ballot measure that we'll be going on. the more we're talking about this every day that we have this in the news that is not what they want to be talking about. that as a day lost and it's a break that the biden campaign needs. they need to keep getting these things and it's a reminder you're that whatever the poll say in his studies, they've been six months is a long time

and they can change on a dime in terms of what voters are thinking about when they walk into the voting booth way, both to listen to some of the responses from the ruling today. >> there's fallout. listen this is a disaster for women and arizona arizona women deserve the right to make their own decision about abortion. there will be women in arizona that could die because of this room ruling by the supreme court. >> i'm not going to enforce an unconstitutional abortion ban until the people of arizona have a right to have the ability to get to that ballot initiative this will be on the ballot come november, but even, even a republican senate candidate, kari lake, we all remember her, of course is disavowing this ruling. listen to what she said. she said i opposed today's ruling and i'm calling on the democratic governor, katie hobbs, and the state legislature to come up with an immediate common sense solution that at arizonans can support. but just two years ago, she actually praised this same law. what's the turnaround for the reasons liam

talked about knowing it's a problem. >> well, kari lake is inconsistent. writ large, and so i'm not going to hold her to a standard that she just will never we're be able to meet and that's to tell the truth. >> but >> i think she she's seen the backlash. we saw kansas. we aren't just talking about in democratic states. i think that people think about this as a political issue. this is a person issue. we're talking about the people in this country the women that live in kansas, which is traditionally a red-state, my home state of ohio, where they just had a ballot initiative in kentucky, another red skate, a democratic governor. but in 2023, they voted because he ran a campaign forced or centered on abortion. and then in the midterms, the red wade that never happened is because of this issue. so kari lake, she lost in 2022 also because she didn't believe the election results were real and a lot of other issues that she was problematic about but she knows she's on the ballot again, she's not extremely popular in her state, and that if she were to occur actual stance and what she actually believed she would lose again,

now she probably still will lose, but she certainly will lose if she sides with where she fundamentally believes is where the law how should it be an 18, 64. so i guess i say to the people of arizona and every state is stopped letting these politicians play games with your life. they have told you where they stand on these issues. donald trump, pass, ron desantis has nikki haley has and now kari lake has and hold them to account and the best way to do it is with your vote, liam, i want to get your action as well because you mentioned that every day they're not talking about what are more perhaps winning issues for republicans, immigration, the economy, and beyond our days are better for the biden harris ticket. but harris is the one i'm focusing on right now. now. she has been propelled to the forefront on these issues. reproductive rights on really a tour of the nation on these very issues there had been insults that were lauded or lobbed at her as vote for biden was a vote for her now, this issue, uh, winning one for democrats, frankly, does that change things?

>> it's interesting. i think they've been looking for a way to use her in your best, highest and best use. and this certainly fits that. she is certainly more equipped to go out on the trail and hit these key states. then president biden, it so i think this is actually a really nice rule for her, but it does play into some of the messages that republicans are going to have, which is just from an actuarial standpoint, when you make this with friendly with both these menn, the vice presidential pick is going to have a salients and a resonance that is more than we've ever seen before because you have to think about this when you're talking about but 78, 81 year-old's. i mean, these are people that are going to be four years from now. and advanced agents. so i think the prominence of vice president harris is going to be something that is potentially good for democrats, but also something that republicans are really going to want to lean into it really quick. >> do you think that this is going to change in some some respects? the fact that trump was crowing about overturning roe v. wade. but then one of the issue here, the states, he could lose some pro are anti-abortion voters, period.

>> you know, i'm i'm a little bit skeptical of that. i think he recognized that when he came out yesterday and said what he did. i mean, there was a there was there was even talk to those as his sister soldier moment that he came out and elicited reactions from the susan b anthony less and the groups him being seen as at odds with the far-right is not a bad thing for him. they thought they live buy, they will buy them more than a day when before they had to deal with a new fire to put out but i think actually in some ways that's what gave kari lake and people like her acu that actually president trump has your back, he's sort of given the permission structure for you to come out and probably say what voters want to hear whether or not that's something that's believable based on your previous response. >> my only issue is you can say what voters want to hear, but what are you actually going to do and that is overturned roe and take us back to 18, 64. >> well, full stop. there it is. liam donovan, ashley allison. thank you both so much. ahead >> a big >> warning to the supreme court about trump's immunity claims. but guess what? it's not coming from jack smith. it's

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hearing from the military. in fact, 19 retired military leader is filing an amicus brief with the supreme court, arguing against trump's immunity claims and they include retired generals and admirals and service secretaries who served under republican and democratic presidents. as you know, trump is charged and that federal election subversion case, which is on hold while the supreme court weighs his immunity claims at the supreme court, justices can consider this brief now, when they hear the arguments on immunity, when on april 25th, it says that granting presidential immunity would threaten the military's role in society. and actually, here's a quote from that amicus brief we risk jeopardizing america's standing as a guardian of democracy in the world. and further feeding the spread of authoritarianism thereby threatening the national security of the united states and democracies around the world here with me now, one of

the signatories to the brief former air force secretary, deborah lee james, secretary james. thank you for being here this evening. it is so important to read this amicus brief in particular, given the audience, of course, if the supreme court and the writers themselves, let me begin here. secretary james hypothetically, if trump were granted immunity, that doesn't mean the the military is immune to play this out. what would the military do if they were asked to carry out something unlawful by an immune president >> well, first of all, are thank you for allowing me to come on in program my kopan, colleagues and i filed this abacus brief just because we wanted to emphasize with the supreme court, this is such a broad issue. there are many there are many implications across the board, but let's not forget the important national

security and military principles that are at stake here. >> there are >> certain principles that i'd like to just if i may briefly describe, first of all, civilian control of the military, it is embedded in our constitution of the military acts not by itself, but under civilian control principle number two, that's important here is the military must follow the president's lawful orders regardless of party, they are nonpartisan, they are supposed to be above politics, not follow a republican president because they like republicans or a democrat because they liked democrats, but followed the president all lawful orders. now here comes the answer to your specific question. principle number three, the military is charged with disobeying an unlawful order, such as the instance you cited earlier, such as ordering troops within united states to block the transfer of a

peaceful transfer of power after an election such as killing innocent civilians in warfare, the mean lai massacre in the vietnam era. fail and failure to disobey a disobeys such an order could lead the military member themselves to be prosecuted. so the military would be in a state of confusion. number one, if many, many unlawful orders were being issued, what to do, and this kind of confusion is likely to lead to disarray i mean, the notion we hear about the commander in chief, and there is this, as you're describing it, this false perception that would ever is ordered by the commander in chief >> must be obeyed. but there is the guardrails that are in play, but on a case-by-case basis, you don't want the confusion among the military as to whether they're trying to decide which is lawful and which is not which leads me to a big question. i've been wondering about. i spoke to a

voter or a few weeks ago on this program, who wanted to know where former president's former commanders in chief stood on this issue. you and your colleagues, lese, 19 retired military leaders have weighed in on amicus brief do you think that former president's need to speak out in a formal fashion >> i would hope that they would i would hope that they would. and the principle that in this country no one is above the law has been a bedrock principle, and frankly, i never thought we would be worried about the president believing that he or she might be above the law >> a few years >> ago, i wouldn't have even worried about this but it is it is a major issue today and i would hope that former presidents would weigh in >> you were very clear about the military only following the orders of commanders in chief that are lawful, but also not wanting to weigh into politics we know that the body of these cases that are being brought against a former president,

there is a lot of rhetoric surrounding them that people believe in some areas of the country and in clinical areas >> but it's >> partisan that it's all partisan politics where are you concerned about speaking up with your colleagues about this very issue for the fear of the perception that what you're doing be viewed as political >> well, sometimes you have to take a risk. laura, and if you look at the 19 of us who signed onto this amicus brief and who have similar views we some of us have served and republican administration, some of us have served in and democratic administrations the retired four-star generals and admirals typically have served both republican presidents and democratic presidents. and i personally have no idea. no one has any idea how they may or may not have voted so we are a bipartisan, nonpartisan group, but we are like-minded and we all have had major years of service to our military and our

very worried about the impact that this would have really important to hear that perspective president biden was actually asked about the biggest threat to democracy in a new interview, a listen to what he had to say >> what in your view constitutes the primary threat to freedom and democracy at home? >> don't trump seriously don't trump talks, uses phrases like you're gonna eviscerate the constitution. he's going to be a dictator on day one >> do, you agree that he would be the biggest threat >> i don't know that i agree that he's a bigger threat than china or russia. but certainly it is a threat when we start to say that someone, someone looks such enormous power as the president of the united states is above the law. again, i come back to the principle, no one is supposed to be above the law >> secretary, deb, really, james. thank you so much.

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but that night he shot sarah and benjamin in their bedroom, leaving their four-year-old daughter unharmed. in his last statement, dorsey wrote to all of the family and loved ones i share with sarah and to all of the surviving family and loved ones of ben. i am totally deeply overwhelmingly sorry. >> words >> cannot hold the just weight of my guilt and shame >> i >> still love you multiple people came out in support of him in his final days. 70 to prison workers from the very institution he lived in were against his execution also, a former missouri supreme court justice several missouri's representatives, even five jurors from the penalty phase of his trial and they're not >> alone. members of the family are split. some were in favor of dorsey's execution others, were against it, including my next guest. i want to bring in

gen. eager house her she is a cousin of both brian dorsey and sarah bonnie. jenny. thank you so much for joining me this evening. can imagine what you or your family has been going through since at least 2006, let alone now i understand you spent the evening with your family. how is everyone coping tonight? >> it's been a really terrible unnecessary day. laura. it really has it's been it's been hard to come to terms with it for one thing you'll usually when you lose a family member you're there, you know, you you see that there's some kind of closure >> we got a phone call hello. to let us know he was gone. so there's definitely a very surreal feeling to it. i don't know that it's quite some again but i say it again. it's

it's so upsetting because it was so unnecessary >> the word unnecessary intrigues me what aspect is that the underlying crime itself or the execution or the delay? what? >> the execution was absolutely unnecessary you know, brian was convicted at a terrible crime. we have never denied that but brian is not the worst of the worst. and a single terrible night. his life didn't justify killing him i mentioned that there is a divide in your family, so i'm family members have described this very day of execution as a >> light at the end of the tunnel, has speaking out for brian alienated you from men >> absolutely absolutely. we've spent most of last 17 years kinda walking on eggshells around each other but we were

able to remain civil. we would have the rare occasion. we would still get together, but i did a an interview with a lovely lady at the kansas city star and when it was published in january things turned on a dime my husband is in the hospital at the time and i go from one day getting well-wishes from these family members to getting hateful texts and messages. the next day being blocked from facebook so yeah, i've i've lost half of my family >> because you spoke out against him being executed correct? correct. i have never said what happened was okay. i've said he should be released i simply said he should not be executed and i've been vilified for it >> what do you have to say to those members of your family tonight? >> i have nothing to say. i'm

done. laura, i'm done. there's nothing left to say >> the tragedy in so many ways of that statement really continues and i think people don't realize the impact of what happens when all of this has unfolded. i mean, you put out a statement and i i just want to read a part of it tonight, jenny you say the death penalty isn't punishment for the convicted. this evening, brian will be set free. his punishment will end. and for all of us, only guilty of loving him. ours will begin prior to your cousin having been sentenced to the death penalty did you have different views about the death penalty and have they changed now? i >> absolutely had conflicted views before this happened because i've always wondered,

do is it our place to take a life be opened then there are some truly terrible people out there. i just wasn't sure but after enduring this experience, the last 17 years, it's not a black and white issue. there's so much to it. there are so many details that you don't hear about these cases. you know, there are a lot of myths, truths that are, that are put out in these cases. it's just not fair to take these lives if you don't know the full truth we read a vigil today and there was a man with the missouri missourians against the death penalty, who had assigned it just really resonated me it says, why did we kill people who killed people to prove that you shouldn't kill people >> that >> really resonated with me. i'm like exactly that is the point. why are we doing this?

we're no better than the initial crime >> it's a very poignant thought that i run through my mind for a variety of reasons as well. jenny, i mean what i what i was really struck by in the case of brian the crimes are what they are, and the lives have been taken him, he hasn't denied that and leaving behind a four-year-old child. i can't imagine what her life has been like as a result. but the support for him and his rehabilitation was really unprecedented. i mean, there were correctional officers and representatives and even jurors and the judge, what do you want people to know about the brian that you knew? >> the brian that i knew was a special soul. there is no denying it bryan was somebody that everybody loved everybody wanted to be around him it's terrifying to me to think that drugs change you so much. can

just leave you so utterly out of control. but you could possibly hurt somebody that you care so much. four when the 72 correctional officers sent that letter to the governor, i felt so validated because for years i've been telling you this is so out of >> character, i cannot reconcile this crime with the one convicted for it. >> it makes no since to me at all. >> and >> when these officers came forward and said the same thing, saying that you know, he's he's a decent person who did a terrible thing. i felt so validated, laura. validated on to any i certainly i'm just so sorry for the loss for your family more broadly and the potential >> loss of family when you think about all that is unfolded since that fateful day jenny, thank you for sharing a very personal story with the world. it's really important to hear. thank you. thank you,

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your answer? >> he's got great hair all the time as alice is during the anchor chair traces back to a challenging, turbulent upbringing which she actually writes about in her new memoir. it's called combat, love she is here with me now to talk about it, my friend, welcome you know, this book, i thought i know you were friends, but yet i read this book and i'm thinking i don't know if i knew her the way that she describes herself. and it was so wonderful, it was raw, it was poignant, it was deeply as well. i have to know from you, i mean, why did you want to write it? well, it is a raw >> and very personal memoir and i just felt that at some point it's time to peel back the mask and show everybody who's been watching for all of these decades. >> did >> we all have struggles. everybody has a story of survival of some kind and that, that can be a bridge between

people. and in these times, i think it's important to have a bridge between us and the viewer's between us, you know, just together. and so i thought that maybe if people heard about how much ice struggled to become a tv reporter and an anchor. and my dream that maybe it would be inspirational. i there were times i was broke, there were times i didn't have a place to live. there were times that i suffered with deep despair and depression and yet i did achieve my dream and i hope that people that gives people hope you've often the followed a headline you've covered a headline you've done a lot of crime reporting as well. i guess we showed america's most wanted. i had no idea that you had a personal connection to the experience that you tell about your father having been arrested and what that felt like for you as a child and how you've grappled with when i was ten, my father was arrested. this is my father in better days, he was quite elegant man on incredibly intellectual menn very

appealing to people, but he had demons and he was arrested for i mean, i hesitate to tell people because i want them to read it and i don't want it to be a spoiler alert, but they don't spoil it. all right. well, he was arrested and it was my first lesson in how behind every juicy headline there is a real families struggle and it's personal for people. so matter how salacious on this side, we think we're getting a big get and we think we're telling a great story, but it's really a family's pain that you're telling and i've never forgotten that since i was ten years old and i do hope that that's part of why i approach this job with some humanity because i remember that it's not just a great and get it is a family spam. >> i mean, you do have an empathetic approach that is sincere. i just didn't realize it came from a deep personal connection and that is something that could make the book all the more scary to right? and yet you do it in

such a way that you create an open book and you allow people to read it and to learn more about you. and that can be hard to let go of that. i don't want to call it a facade, but that distance and actually to that end, we solicit and openly reader because i was curious what people thought about the book and it's an afterword of sorts if you haven't read a portion for you, it says thank you for accompanying me as i began the path less traveled to pursue my freedom. thank you for inviting me to be your historian as you explored our past. although our paths diverge, perhaps because they diverged, we are now on the same road. i have loved you every day of your life, and i'm happy to be alive that was written by your mom >> that is so incredibly beautiful that is so beautiful. look at my beautiful mom. i mean, i am so honored that she would write that to you and i'm so honored this. she did participate in this ultimately, she didn't want me to do it originally. and then she participated in it it has a

happy ending. there are parts in the book that are hard and that are painful to read about and certainly to write about. but i'm happy that at the end, we had a reconciliation and that my parents lived long enough for me to have closure with them, which i know not everybody gets. and so i'm very grateful for that. particularly to my mom. >> well, it's a happy ending because it's a beginning of sorts and i even can begin to learn more about you. and by the way >> you, you bet through some stuff about the punk rock series and you a little bit of a road there's a lot in this book, i loved it and i love that you shared with everybody. it's called combat love allyson. thank you so much. so great to see you, laura. thank you so be sure to chcheck it ou and thank you all for watching our coverage continues. >> there's new ally in the fight against climate change. >> this is hard business blue carbon. we just need to protect

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