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chief international anchor christiane amanpour, because john, thank you so much for joining us. i wonder to what extent do you think the us is going to be successful at convincing israel that they should now not retaliate against iran. what leverage the us has enlight of the help that they gave israel last nine. of course, the ongoing support at least in terms of weaponry in the war in gaza gaza this is the question frankie alex, because the united states has been urging israel >> throughout the war in gaza since october 7, to abide by rules of the international road and that has proven something that israel has not wants to do in terms of how it's targeting gaza. so if you've flashed now to this extra potential regional escalation, the very real question is is there a division between what the us wants, which is not to
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escalate. the united states from the white house. they've said the president biden will not, and it's told netanyahu will not join any offensive action against you is there a division between him and netanyahu on this? we know that for many, many years the israeli government on the death again, when frankly previous one, so the previous one he wanted to drive the us into their conflict with iran. >> and so far that hasn't happened us provided defensive help overnight. so did the uk, so did fraud to try to head off the worst possibilities of the iran garage. but now this is a real rubicon that has been crossed iran in the 45 years of the islamic revolution. and its conflict with israel and israel those conflict with it has never attacked inside israel. now, let's face it, this one was heavily, heavily telegraphed. it was very, very clear that this was going to happen. the united states mu,
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israel knew everybody in the region, you it is retaliation for frankly and unprecedented attack by israel on a diplomatic facilities of the r&b iraq we still don't know the cows isbell is there was once why did israel make that attack inside damascus? also, we know that for many, many years there has been a shadow war between israel and iran, whether it's on cyber, whether it's israel taking out various targets inside iran, like the scientists. and you remember centrifuge malfunctions and the town's, et cetera. on his new deal program. so there has been this shutter the war going on. now, iran says that it took its defensive measure. it called it, it's un mission set out a statement last night saying that it was abiding by the un charter on the right to self-defense. so now everybody is covering themselves in this right to self-defense and if israel continues to do that in
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terms of retaliate for the retaliation is very unclear where this will lead, but nowhere good. that's for sure christiane this, this was absolutely telegraphed when we are considering what scenarios iran would undertake. i think this was probably one of the most dramatic, and i wonder to what extent you're surprised by what we saw in terms of the launch of these three drones and missiles. and what you make of the iranian messaging ahead of the attack, essentially telling the us stay out of it. this is between us and israel and then saying very clearly in the middle of the night, at least our time that now this attack is over indeed. >> i mean, look, yes, it was a huge number hundreds of ariel ariel. ariel mechanisms drones, cruise missiles, ballistic missiles. >> on the other hand, >> if one can say it was very top yes, it was very limited in its in the direction and
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everybody knew it was coming they say the quite a lot of them were intercepted even before entering israeli as safe. so i think that this is not a showpiece because that would be to minimize the real real tensions that are happening. but it was what he wrong, certainly from its perspective, believed was an absolute necessity to take this defensive measure. this went right up to obviously i told her how many the so-called supreme leader of iran and it was determined that it had to take this action. now, if you remember a few weeks a months ago, iran, through its proxies, attacked and killed a time to base and killed several american service people and for that, the united states responded very, very heavily and killed dozens of those proxies pandor, pandor iranian because that was outside iran
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and that has stopped that kind of engagement so far. so iran is saying now you did this thing to us in damascus, in our diplomatic headquarters. we don't know why israel did it other than it potentially could have been simply a target of opportunity because they weren't military people there as you saw >> and >> now the question is, is this going to be an endless cycle of retaliating for retaliation and on and on and on. >> and that is clearly >> what the united states and the neighboring countries are trying to avoid. it is also, and we mustn't be get sort of moving the spotlight in the energy away from trying to stop the disastrous situation in gaza and try to get the hostages home. because that is as far as we know, not proceeding in the way that certainly the united states, wants. and certainly the people in the region want that's right. >> that's >> ceasefire deal that would see those hostages released appears to be stalled, at least for now christiane amanpour.
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thank you so much for your time and for your expertise today. still to calm israel and its allies are looking at their options after night of those iranian air attacks with drones, missiles will we bringing in a noted military analysts to look at those options, stay with us >> are you for all-star de return crura waterfront redemption, showdown, like in a bring it. but only one will make us flash. i think we nailed it, rocked the box season finale, monday night at nine on hgtv a heart attack. >> do they have life insurance? >> no. >> but we have life insurance john i'm trying to find something we can afford >> fortunately, it only a few minutes, select poll found john a $500,000 policy for only $29 a month and his wife and a $500,000 policy for only $21 a month go to select quote.com now and get the insurance your
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were shot down. now, israel's foreign minister is reiterating earlier comments that if iran attacks inside inside israel, israel will then strike inside iran. that is the big question this morning whether israel will undertake that action against iran. iran is military chief of staff is saying that the united states and israel have been put on notice, not to launch any military response. meanwhile, israel, iraq, and jordan have now reopened their airspaces, perhaps an indication they think that at least this chapter is now over the united nations security council is set to meet in the coming hours after israel called for a condemnation of a ron's overnight attack but this is inside iran >> celebrations, as >> you can see, they're breaking out on the streets of tehran after word of the iranian attack against israel. god out, joining me now is
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retired major general mc ryan of the australian army. he is the former for a commander of the australia defense college and the author of war transformed the future of 21st century great power competition and conflict joining us now from brisbane, australia make thanks so much for joining us. i want to get your sense of what you make of the iranian attack it could have been bigger if you will. it was very significant. there was some proxy involvement, but not all that intense. so what do you think the message that iran was trying to send was with these 300 drones cruise and ballistic missiles woman settlement of this retaliation array1 seems to have >> calibrated the attack, so it's not too small to the irrelevant, but not so large. so that would have overwhelmed israel's defenses and cause
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massive casualties. it's worth noting that the tactics around use a very, very similar to those used by russia in ukraine, in combining multiple different types of drones and missiles in a text against ukrainian infrastructure general, do you think there will be an israeli response? obviously, there's a lot of concern here in washington and in fact, direct messaging to israel, to prime minister netanyahu that the us would not support a retaliation against iran i'm not sure that you always messaging to israel over gaza has worked well and it may not in this case, the israeli cabinet is probably >> considering a variety of options that would extend from not responding all the way through to a massive hammer blow yes. these riley's will be wanting as they did after seven october to do what they call re-established a term that will
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be a guiding principle in their response. >> and that is something they could do asymmetrically as well, right? i mean, they have so many different options, whether it's special forces or cyber or as we saw in damascus last week, they could attack iranian interests elsewhere aside from a direct strike against and military targets inside iran, what else could it could israel do if not a full blown, very high-profile attack against iran >> well, that could surprise everyone and do nothing. they could say, hey, we easily fended off that blow and seek to humiliate around that way. i don't seem that will be the option they choose. and given night normalize strikes against iranian proxies in the region it's more likely than not that some kind of activity in array ambient, an airstrike or special forces mission or cyber strikes will be included in what they most likely to do
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generally, it's one thing i think for the israeli public to get attacked by hamas rocket fired. but those rockets pale in comparison to what they were facing last night. and i wonder to what extent you think this extraordinary attack by iran historic will play into the war in gaza. what will be the impact there >> well, i think as cristian's, i don't post it in the previous report. this really has crossed the rubicon for rain. it has not, in its modern history, attacked israel directly, always preferring to use proxy. so this is changed the game somewhat in the middle east, it's a change in iranian strategy and the israelis are probably going to have to just shift their strategy and how they deal with a rain all right. >> retired major gentleman mic ryan in brisbane, australia. thank you very much for your time today. i really appreciate it >> thank you >> still reaction to iran attack on israel continues to come in from around the roles we will have those responses stay with us debris in the sky,
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trying for yourself go to that, let x.com and shocked today reaction is pouring in around the world to iran overnight attack against israel, the president of france, emmanuel macron, has condemning what he is calling the unprecedented attack launched by iran towards israel, warning in a statement that the attack, quote, threatens to destabilise lies the region. and then china meanwhile is expressing what it calls deep concern and is calling for calm and restraint. a statement released by the ministry of foreign affairs says, quote, china calls on the international community, especially countries with influence to play a constructive role for the peace and stability of the region and then there's. a similar statement from the government of qatar in doha expressing what it calls profound concern, the ministry of foreign affairs saying that qatar has quote, called on all parties to cease escalation, calm tensions, and exercise maximum restraint. and then in germany, the foreign minister of that country
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writing on x we condemn the ongoing attack in the strongest possible terms. adding that the attack risked plunging the region quote, into chaos for more joining us is international correspondent scott mclean in istanbul. so scott, what else are we hearing from around the world? >> alex, good morning. look, it is important to remember that this attack wasn't random. it didn't come out of the blue. this is something that the iranians had been telegraphing for some time in response so april 1st attack on its diplomatic compound in damascus, something that it pointed to the un security council and said that it should have been condemned there, but it wasn't because the us, the uk, and france had pointed out that there were still unanswered questions about the true use of that building. think that was hit on that compound in damascus, which is similar to the israeli line that this was actually a military facility. when it
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comes to this latest attack, though there has been very swift condemnation from those countries and from the west >> more >> broadly, the british prime minister rishi sunak, wrote this. he said that iran has once again demonstrated that it is intent on sowing chaos in its own backyard. the un secretary general antonio guterres, who had actually condemn that strike on the damascus a diplomatic facility said this, i am deeply alarmed about the very real danger of a devastating region-wide escalate relation. i urge all parties to exercise maximum restraint. some of those parties involved in israel's defense are the ones that i mentioned us, uk, and france are all part of the security council. and that is who the saudi foreign ministry is directing its statement boards and saying, this region is crucial for global peace and security. and the security council must act to prevent the crisis from escalating, which would have grave consequences if it expands. and of course, the countries in this region would be the one would be the
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ones to feel those consequences. countries, many of whom are already struggling with very poor economic circumstances, like here in turkey, like like the egyptians who are also trying to broker peace between the israelis and hamas. the foreign ministry of egypt road this, this escalation is nothing but a direct result of what egypt has repeatedly warned about regarding the dangers i've expanding the conflict in the region. as a result of the israeli war on the gaza strip. and the provocative military actions being exercised in the region. that last line could easily be a reference to both the israelis and some of their strikes in the region on, on iran and on iranian proxy forces, i should say, in the region it could also be a reference to the actions that we're seeing from iran through its proxies, whether it's the houthis are hezbollah or some of its other groups aligned with tehran in iraq, or with syria, and in the past week, alex, we've seen the us and
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the west really trying to send a message other directly or through diplomatic back-channels to the iranians not to strike and to try to turn down the temperature on this conflict. and now we're seeing the opposite. the iranians trying to very clearly send a message to the west into israel that look, if there's no more strikes, this is over. but of course, it's not the west that's going to be deciding whether this is over. it is going to be israel and israel as we've learned since october the seventh since this war began, israel has been very reluctant to take advice even from its allies >> yeah, one through line in all of those statements from around the world, the hope that essentially this is it, and that this does not, does not escalate from here. it's mccain in istanbul. thanks very much. and stay with us. we will have much more of our breaking news coverage of iran direct attack on israel. just a moment right here on scene
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after a wave >> of iranian attacks on israel, a ron's army chief of staff has warning the united states against any future attacks saying that american bases we're will not have any security and will be dealt with prime minister benjamin netanyahu has spoken on the phone in the past few hours with us president joe biden biden urged prime minister netanyahu to avoid escalation and said that the united states, and this is very notable, will not participate in any offensive operation against iran. that is the main concern right now. to what extent israel will fill feel the need to respond to this on the streets of tel iran, you can see right there are people celebrating waving palestinian and hezbollah flags. the commander of iran's revolutionary guard-core saying that if israel attacks iranian
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interests or assets, that iran, again will respond directly now, so much of the focus has been, of course, understandably on this attack by iran against israel overnight. and as these regional tensions explode, we can't forget the very dire humanitarian situation in gaza that has unfolded over the past few months there's also swift reaction from capitol hill on e tacks in israel congress saying that they could consider legislation supporting israel metime this weekea routes to he s ua on flting pier thl be ud to deliver humanitarian greene aid from the s intgaza. it expected to be up and nning by the end of aprior early may i'm alexarquardt here in washington, dc. will have more of our breaking news
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