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larger conflict in the middle east are now front and center sure. can further escalation be avoided. our panel breaks down what to watch next >> cnn breaking news hello. i'm jake tapper in washington with the special live expanded edition of state of the union, where the state of our union is bracing for what's next new this >> morning out of the middle east, israel's war cap i'm going to use meeting this hour to decide how to respond. >> that >> iran is unprecedented overnight assault. that's according to israeli visually, israel says that israel and other nations intersect that. did it 99% of the more than 300 missiles and drones fired by iran directly from iranian soil during its five-hour strike on israel. over the us intercepted more than 70 of those attack drones and at least three ballistic missiles. according to officials, president biden is set to convene a meeting of the g7 today to coordinate what he calls a united diplomatic response to iran's brazen attack. >> it >> was a night of booms and
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flashes of light and explosions over israel for all his air raid sirens wailed israel says seven year-old girl was injured by shrapnel and the rockets did not come just from iran more than 55 were fired from lebanon and israel, according to the israeli military biden met with his national security team in the situation room late into the night, getting minute-by-minute updates as the attack unfolded, biden also speaking and with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu telling it's an yahoo that israel should consider this a win, since nothing of value in terms of targets was hit according to a senior administration striation official and the united states would not participate in any offensive operations against iran iran says the attack was in retaliation for the april 1 strike on an iranian consulate we're building and syria, that killed a senior iranian military officers. now the middle east and the world is on edge for what comes next. let's bring and cnn chief international correspondent clarissa ward in tel aviv. clarissa, what, what's the latest on the ground? and israel?
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>> so as you mentioned, jake, we are now waiting for that war cabinet session to get underway. we anticipated it'll start in the next half-hour. president biden has urged israel not to escalate further, but one israeli official telling cnn that they will respond it's simply a matter of the scale and scope of what that response will be. this after, as you mentioned, 300 cruise missiles, ballistic missiles, drones fired towards israel last night, 99% of them intercepted, but tellingly, the idf has said that a number they won't give the specific number of ballistic missiles. did make impact at the never team at air force base in southern israel, that is where those f35 fighter jets are are based. iran has said that that is the base they believe was used to launch the april 1st attack against the consulate building in damascus. so the question now becomes,
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what does israel do next on the streets? the feeling is relative calm, a high degree of anticipation israel has reopened its airspace, jake, that we're seeing that a number of flights are being canceled, a number of airlines choosing not to fly in and out, some even canceling flight it's across the region and iran has said that it will cancel all flights civilian aircraft in an out of the country, at least until monday. so heightened state of alert here, jake. >> all right. clarissa ward in tel aviv will come back to you. thank you so much for joining us now in studio white house national security communications adviser, a retired admiral john kirby. admiral kirby, what is the assessment of the vitamins duration right now of how serious this strike was, was the biden administration surprised by the scale of this attack? i mean, i can't even imagine this is just for people out there who don't know this an attack from iran directly from iran on israel of this
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magnitude, it has never happened, >> no, truly was unprecedented is a good word that you use there. i mean, t size and scale and ope just not seen this before. >> we had >> been watching as closely as we could. i can i tell you that we anticipated every single dronand every single missile? probably not, but we cerinly had a good sense of what iran was planning to do more critically the israelis did as well. and the response by them, the defense by or israeli counterparts. and of course, the united states and an additional partners also was unprecedented. i mean, this was an incredible success really proving israel's military superiority and justice critically, there are diplomatic superiority that they have friends in the region. they have friends around the world that are willing to help them so let's talk about that for one second because obviously the iranians please correct me if i'm wrong, it appears as though the iranians were not only >> attacking israel, there were violating the airspace of other arab countries, including
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jordan and saudi arabia. is that accurate? absolutely. there's no way to do what they did last night. without violating international airspace to do it. >> president biden has repeatedly say, said that his goal is to prevent the war in gaza from becoming a regional conflict. has that nightmare scenario become a reality? i mean, is this the beginning of a broader regional war of not just israel against hamas and hezbollah, but israel against iran. >> we don't believe it is normal. we believe it has to >> the president. i mean, almost everything he's been doing since the beginning since october 7 has been to try to de-escalate, to try to limit the opportunities here for a broader regional war if you've flipped about just last night in the pre positioning that the president ordered additional ships additional aircraft, fighter pilots into the region to help take down these drones and these missiles. i mean, everything he's doing is trying to set the conditions so that that does not have a number of the attacks came not from iran, but from iranian
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proxies >> in >> syria >> and in lebanon, or just in lebanon, it was there was some proxies firing out of iraq and syria and iraq and syria and even in the, from the houthis as well and from the houthis as well. so it was from iranian proxies all or they certainly included the proxies, jake, but the vast majority of weapons that were fired at israel came from iran proper. >> president biden spoke last night with prime minister netanyahu after the attack. what can you tell us about the call we are reporting? the president told netanyahu that the united states is not going to be part of any offensive attack against iran. did netanyahu give president biden any indication of what israel intends to do next? >> i certainly won't speak for premise or netanyahu and what they're thinking and whether and how they're going to respond. it's really that's up for them to decide. the purpose of the call was to check in with prime minister netanyahu at the at the end of the operations. now, not everything
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had finished getting into israel in terms of the drones were still on the way, but we felt like we were near the end. the president wanted to congratulate prime minister netanyahu for an incredible military achievement. the prime minister was very grateful for the support that president biden offered and demonstrated in supporting israel and the president made it clear that the self-defense of israel is something we take seriously and we will continue to take this seriously. >> do you have an assessment right now of how many drones and how many missiles iran fired? >> i think central command the defense department is still working through the exact numbers. the israelis put out a number of more than 300 were certainly no position to challenge that it was several hundred. >> if you several hundred drones and >> missiles, drones and missiles, you count everything clearly several hundred, the exact count i think there's still working through how many of those did the united states shoot easily, several, dozens. and again, we'll get a better count as we get throughout the day. i mean, this is all just happened overnight. but but several, dozens the us fighter aircraft and us destroyers in
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the region were also able to help you love to shoot down president biden said that america's commitment to israeli security from iranian threats is ironclad if israel launches retaliatory strikes against iran in iran, not just in lebanon or or the houthis in yemen, or, or hamas will the us support that? or is it a us position that israel should not retaliate to iran on iranian territory. >> i would just tell you that number one, our iron, our commitments aren't clade to defending israel and to helping israel defend itself. and my goodness, that they prove their capability about that last night. i mean, just an incredible performance. and as the president has said many times, we don't seek a wider war in the region. we don't seek a war with iran i think i'll leave it at that how much can it be perceived that iran is not afraid of the united states if it is willing to conduct an attack like this on israel, unprecedented >> in its size, shape, and scope mean it's not about trying to instill fear here in
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iran. it's about making it clear to iran, which we did privately and publicly that we're not going to tolerate any threats to our troops our facilities in iraq and syria. >> and that we >> will help israel defend itself. and my goodness, jake, i mean, i you can't look at last night and not see in the iranians can't look at it in that c. how serious we are about that commitment. i mean, think about what they threw at israel, right? several hundred drones and missiles over the course of a few hours and what damage did they cause? >> not very much. i mean, it was an incredible effort by israel, but also it shows that iran is not the military power weight that they, they claim to be so a girl in israel has been wounded or killed. >> i think the reports are mixed. i mean, the last that i heard was that she had died from her wounds, god, from her wounds, and the reporting i have is that she was in an arab israeli girls. >> is that our understanding as well? yeah. in a little town outside the never team airbase,
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there's there's a village and what we understand was a piece of shrapnel from some of these engagements landed in that in that village, and injured her and see sadly sisi succumb to those rooms. so >> the republican leader in the senate, mitch mcconnell, says it's time for biden, quote and match words with actions will he or is it, or is it just going to be a diplomatic or i don't know how you can look at what happened right night and say that he hasn't he said we're ironclad commitment to israel when my goods are defending it though, but not i think when mcconnell i was talking about is a response >> again, i think you look at everything that we've done since october 7, actually before that, but since october 7, the president has been a man of his word. we said we're going to help israel defend itself, and we've been doing that in addition to what happened last night, which was extraordinary, we're continuing to make sure that israel has what it needs to defend itself against. hamas, which is still operating inside gaza. so i just respectfully have to disagree with the
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leader there, everything that the president has done since 7 october has proven his word as good animal. >> kirby, thanks so much for being here. i appreciate it. what will israel do next? joining us now, the spokesperson for the israel defense forces, colonel peter lerner and our kernel. good. >> good morning. first, let's start with the casualties admiral kirby just told me that he was or the understanding that a young girl in israel and arab israeli who had been wounded by shrapnel has to come to her wounds and died. can you confirm that? what else can you tell us about any damage or injuries on the ground? >> good morning, jake? >> no, i was just >> listening to apro kirby reporting that i have not seen that report at this stage. i was trying to get it as i was coming on i've asked to try and perhaps update during it. i know that she was still fighting for her life think seven year-old amina a few an hour ago, so, but i can confirm that at this time, israeli defense minister you'll have golan said, quote, the campaign is not over yet. so what we'll
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israel's response to this attack look like is the idf preparing to strike within iranian territory >> so before we go into that, i would like to weigh on what admiral kirby was talking about. i think the unprecedented coalition, the international coalition, which was basically a roundtable of decent people coming together against the diabolical intentions of iran it proved itself. it proved itself that together we can work to save lives. and that is exactly what we did when they fired some 300 rockets, missiles, cruise missiles, ballistic missiles, and explosive drones towards israel. they had only one thing in touch and death and destruction of israel and israelis so as we look forward and we need to keep that those will intentions in mind. we also need to think that we don't necessarily need to believe what they are telling us. the fact that they've announced that its concluded. we've had rockets fired at us by one of their proxies this morning from lebanon, by
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hezbollah. so we don't necessarily take their word for what, for more than a pinch of salt. jake, we have to navigate what we're what is good for israel currently the government is considering the route forward now, the idf, of course, will lay the opportunity options on the table for the government to decide. and we will operate accordingly. >> you just mentioned the international coalition. and i wanted to just get a little bit more information about that. obviously the united states helped israel are respond and shoot down these missiles and drones more than 300 according to admiral kirby. obviously iran also was violating saudi and jordanian airspace. in this who else was on board with the response with shooting down these missiles and drones? what was the jordanian government was the saudi government. who else are among the players that you just referred to? >> so i can't go into the
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specifics of the original nations that felt that it was the right thing to do to stop around from spreading their hate and destruction but i can say that the american leadership was very, very clear where general kurilla was here over the last few days. and the coordination under the american leadership helped put this coalition together, which was a successful coalition with the brits. the british and the french and regional players that felt that iran has intentions, has a very hostile attitude towards the towards excuse me regional stability. >> and >> therefore, they felt those those those players felt that it was relevant for them to step up. i think what is more important is to look forward and see the strategic alliance that can actually benefit and grow from this. and i think that is something to be positive out to have a positive attitude as we move forward. it was undoubtedly an unprecedented attack against
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us. but the unprecedented coalition that came together it is really, really, i would say it's a very, very strong sense that israel is receiving this level of support and understanding. and as we, as we move forward, we understand and expect that those that are concerned about iran's actions need to be concerned about their actions in lebanon with hezbollah need to be concerned about their actions with the houthis, need to be concerned about iran's actions in the sea as they conduct attacks against america the maritime route, i need to be concerned about how they are powering everybody. that is a radical player in this region. so these organizations equipped to them train them extensively on the iranian government this morning that it's specifically had targeted the airbase where iran says israel launched the strikes targeting iranian constantly in syria, killing at least seven iranian officials with the quds force. what is your response to that? was is
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row behind that strike in damascus, syria. what's your response to iran saying attacking that diplomatic facility crossed the line and provoke this response iran has been behind everything bad four years in this region with an intention to destabilise the region in the last six months, they have been the puppet master, be tied behind hezbollah, the hutus, and hamas and of course, what's happening in the at-sea, in the maritime corridor around didn't need an excuse. they chose to come to the forefront of this and attack israel. we have obvious concerns about iranian activities because they're using their proxies to attack us i would say that our perspective is this didn't begin on april 1. it began well well, before that. of course that reality where they feel that they can attack an
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airbase. and indeed, some of those ballistic missiles they hit the nevatim, airbase. each one of those fired 120 ballistic missiles towards israel a handful of those hit the airbase they didn't cause too much damage, but each one of those carries a warhead of anything around 100, 220 kilos. it didn't cause much damage. the base was operating rational throughout the course of the events in the night. and we will continue to defend ourselves against iranian proxies or iran as they, as they try and conduct their actions in excess right. >> can you just give us the numbers 100, hundred and 20 ballistic missiles? does that mean it's about 200 drone attacks? were there also rocket attacks from hezbollah houthis, et cetera, like what, what's the what's the aggregate number you have of incoming ordinance? >> so the numbers are still not 100% clear, but i understand 120 ballistic missiles, around
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30 cruise missiles were fired at around 170 explosive drones, explosive uavs that were on route. the same types of munitions that they've used and given to the houthis the same types of munition munitions that are being used against ukraine. these are the same type of weapons that they are using around the world that's what we faced in front and confronted in the early hours of this morning indeed, there was some very small amount of weaponry, five i had from the houthis they weren't successful either. and hezbollah in the course of the hours in the hours of this morning have also conducted some attacks against us. we have retaliated against those against hezbollah positions in one this morning as well. >> i i would say though that >> what we see is a tax form yemen attacks from iraq. obviously a form iran attack, attacks from syria, from from lebanon this is a ring of fire
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that iran has built around israel. yeah, it's nicely for this reality. i'm very happy to say that they failed in their attack. most in part because of the extensive coalition that was built. a coalition of decency against the a ring of fire of hostility and eight, okay. >> idf spokesperson, lieutenant colonel peter peter lerner. thanks so much coming up a close confidant of president biden's weighs in on the white house response to iran's attack on israel, democratic senator chris from biden's home state of delaware will join us live. that's next >> i met with the turbotax expert because i had two full-time jobs lawyering and miami, count on me, mia. >> i'll file your taxes for you with >> 100% accuracy guaranteed, lead to turbotax full expert, do your taxes as soon as today >> yeah. dp disrupts cid p derails. >> let's be honest stocks.
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israel's calculus being shaped do you think by the fact that it's already fighting a war in gaza and in its north battling has bola jake, it's hard to tell. you. had the spokesman for the idf on he didn't seem to be a tool concerned about that. he was just talking about a ring of fire and iran and the rest of it, but i did here and cnn did interview former prime minister ehud bragg. i interviewed the former mossad chief, a frame halevi, and they both said that israel, the netanyahu government needs to basically take its time, think, realized that it won this round as you've all been discussing, because none of those projectiles, missiles, drones actually reached any target of any consequence whatsoever. there were no injuries except unfortunately apparently for a little girl and that was because of anti-aircraft missiles, shrapnel, according to the israelis and what baraka said is that israel has to look at the whole picture right now.
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in other words, that it is at war in gaza. it hasn't finished there. it does have his hostages still there. it hasn't got them back the border between northern israel and lebanon is very volatile. so all of these things have to be according to morocco a former prime minister former head of the military, et cetera. trump have to be taken into account before rushing to some kind of response to iran. so too did the former mossad chief, he said, you can't have a quote, revenge attack on iran right now and number one priority for israel and for this government should be to get the hostages back. so at least those two elder statesman are saying what they believe should be the next political and diplomatic moves the stunning attack last night, unprecedented in size and scope, and the fact that it was from iran ramped up the pressure on a white house already, very >> worried about a wider conflict in the middle east is there a way for the white house? do you think to dial
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down the temperature? so this does not become a full-scale war so jake, this is a real case for a massive concerted diplomacy, serious diplomacy actually talking two parties, even though there are no formal diplomatic ties either between israel and iran or between iran and the united states. now, nonetheless, they do have channels and we know that iran the united states, have been diplomatic negotiations previously but this is yes, crossing the rubicon, i think the most interesting and important and consequential comment that came out of iran today was the head of the revolutionary guard corps we're saying that this has changed the equation i, ii and we know that in 45 years of the islamic republic of iran has never directly responded or attacked israel. there has been a shadow war going on for decades. israel has attacked inside iran, has used covert operations to kill an
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assassinated scientists and militaries. and this and that. but there's never been from the other side. so this is a potential shift that could increase the chance of miscalculations unless they step back from the brink. now all right >> christiane, thank you so much for your insights joining us now a key biden ally and member of the senate foreign relations committee, democrat chris, have delaware senator, thanks so much for joining us. so last night you call this attack on israel by iran a brazen escalation. we're now learning that israel intends to respond to its according to an israeli official, what are your thoughts on the latest? what? what's your view on what would be appropriate or inappropriate for israel to do in response if anything >> well, i think would be most appropriate for the congress to do in response is for speaker johnson to put on the floor tomorrow this supplemental that was passed by the senate by a broad bipartisan majority and promptly send it to president biden. that will send a strong signal by funding israel,
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humanitarian support, ukraine, taiwan, making it clear that after months of dithering, the house will act. what i think israel should do is pause for the moment consult with its close allies and partners assess the damage and the activity, and then decide what is the most appropriate response. president biden has forcefully engaged in this region ever since october 7 to try and avoid escalation to a regional war. as you just heard from christiane, we must be mindful that last sunday was six months in captivity for the hostages being held by hamas my hope would be that this remarkable display of an effective and forceful defense of israel by israel and several critical regional partners and allies will give them the room to make a deliberate and considered response in terms of their next steps forward. >> who are the critical regional allies and partners is des jordan and saudi arabia and any other countries willingly
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participate, allowed, not just allowing the us and israel to shoot down drones and missiles, but did they do anything beyond that? >> well, jake, by all published accounts, this was a massive attack, 300 missiles and drones and arab partners like jordan and the saudis and provided some particular, some analytical and active support. but i'm not basing that on anything other than the accounts that i saw last night. we haven't yet been briefed in the senate. and i do think one of the things that israel now has the time to do is to consult with its partners and allies like the united states the british, the french, the jordanians, the saudis, the emirati assess what their next steps are, both in terms of their preparedness and their supply and the reliability of the support that's been shown by the united states and others in the region. >> you mentioned israel's war against hamas in gaza the latest information from the
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middle east and efforts to get a ceasefire and hostages home is that hamas has rejected the most recent proposal. what's your response >> how >> does, how can the united states get this process to a better place? >> even more forceful pressure on qatar and egypt who've been good interlocutors, who've been working with us on trying to pressure hamas to release these hostages i think it's time for us to make it clear that hamas does not have a future in the region and that the united states intends to the forcefully engaged on both sides to get them to the table, to get this resolved, and to get these hostages released. i think that's been happening privately, but i think it's also helpful for it to be clear publicly that it's not acceptable for hamas to continue day after day the torture of hostages and their families. i just met last week with rachel goldberg-polin, whose son hersh has been a
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captive since october 7. it's important to remind folks every day that this horrific situation in gaza has in no small part continued because of hamas. and that their use of civilians as hostages and human shields has contributed to this being as terrible a situation as it has been. we're also calling on our partners in israel to flow humanitarian aid into gaza. and a partner with us and making sure that we avoid humanitarian catastrophe in gaza. in the regional context, it's important to remind everyone that iran has been behind all of this, that they have equipped and trained hezbollah, which even today is continuing to attack israel. the who ties which have continued to attack a regional shipping, the iranian militias in iraq, which continued threaten the american presence it's in syria and iraq. so coming up with a way to deescalate tensions, to defend israel and to resolve the conflict in gaza is the heart
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and important work that president biden is leading today. >> what do you make of the argument that the only way to get attacks like this to stop is with a military response, a powerful military response. i'm not saying this is my view. what that is a view out there. certainly senate minority leader mitch mcconnell is out there saying that biden needs to do more to match is with let me let me get the exact language well, it's along the lines of here it is >> sorry >> he said that it's time for biden to quote match words with actions what's your response to those who say, if you want to get hezbollah and hamas and the houthis and iran to stop attacking to de-escalate the response can't be diplomacy. it has to be military >> well, i was also struck that senate leader mcconnell, republican leader mcconnell in that same statement urging speaker johnson to put the senate passed supplemental on the floor tomorrow we all know,
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but it bears repeating that the ukrainians have been facing day after day wave after wave of the same iranian drones provided to russia in their ongoing aggression against ukraine. i think showing resolve, showing that the united states in a bipartisan, enforceable way. we'll resupply israel and supply ukraine and supply are partners in the indo-pacific is the way that we showed determination. i think we should take a breath and analyze what the consequences might be of an attack back on iran by israel. or of any other escalations. so i understand that there are those who think that's the only way for us to restore deterrence. i think the most important deterrent action that congress can take, and this is what former secretary mike pompeo is calling for. this is what republican leader mitch mcconnell is calling for, is for speaker johnson to not take days or weeks to try and come up with some other package, but to pass the supplemental
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ballistic missiles and drones. it's a blessing that the israelis find only 1% god through, but not every night is going to be that good. and unless iran sees a powerful response, that risk will continue and the way to re-establish deterrence is not proportional. that's academic talk. >> the >> way you establish deterrence is by telling your adversary if you ever try that again, the price you will pay will be so much higher in any gain you think you can get. you shouldn't even think about it so i think israel has a wide range of potential targets to start by flattening juran's air defense capabilities next, you might go after headquarters of the regular military and the revolution mary guards. you could consider going after their oil infrastructure the oil fields, the distribution pipelines, the export port facilities and most importantly, i think israel should be looking at this as an opportunity to destroy iran's nuclear we are weapons program,
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which is the existential threat that israel faces. i don't know what they'll do. i can't predict it, but i will tell you this. if joe biden, as some press reports, have, it, is urging the israelis not to retaliate at all he is an embarrassment to the united states. this is an american interest to make sure that iran, which is the principal threat to international peace and security in the region is at a minimum put in its place to spare israel, to spare the gulf arabs despair us from the threat that they pose. >> so i look, i don't think there's any anybody in the white house that if they could snap their fingers and have the iranian regime disappear, wouldn't do so. the question about what you're proposing would be that doesn't necessarily end the conflict that might actually just escalate the conflict. and then you have iran responding even more harshly and even more successfully. and who knows what their nuclear capabilities are right now, and how does one avoid that happening?
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>> well, let's start with what we don't know about their nuclear capabilities. do you want to tell israel to roll the dice that next time a salvo of ballistic missiles comes into their territory, it won't be nuclear. i think that's the point that israel needs to focus on. and i would say this to about this escalation, this fear of a wider war. the administrator ration, fears of a wider war because it's worried about gasoline prices in the united states. it's worried about the left-wing of the democratic party the fact is israel's been in a wider war since october the seventh, which the administration is resolutely refused to recognize if you don't understand the strategic environment, you can't possibly respond to it effectively. this theater of operations has five battlefields at the moment. certainly, hamas in gaza, the houthis closing the red seed international see traffic. the hezbollah attacks in northern israel, shia militia groups in iraq and syria. now we see iran itself and even, even yesterday, they hi i believe it
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was a philippine ship on the high seas, so there are five sources of pressure here is not necessarily the world's most effective alliance, but it's one battle plan which the iranians called the ring of fire. and the administration needs to face up to that which it has not done so far >> nobody wants armageddon, right? nobody wants world war three, nobody wants nuclear weapons used. nobody wants more death of innocent people why are you convinced that your method? is the best way to avoid that as opposed to diplomacy deterrence, and other ways. well, how well is diplomacy working so far, hamas this morning again rejected the ceasefire plan and by the way i have heard from people in israel they believe that there are less than 20 hostages still alive that perhaps 100 of them are dead. and if that's true and if hamas knows it, but has been negotiating these past months on the basis of 40
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coming out with more possibly later and hamas itself saying they can only find 27 hamas may have been conducting a deception operation to build up pressure on iran, knowing full well on israel, pressure on israel, it could never meet the diplomatic goals of the administration. so deterrence failed 320 times last night against israel. if iran doesn't feel the pain i think it's only going to get worse for israel. >> former president trump last night at a rally in pennsylvania, schnucks ville said that none of this would have happened if he had been president. take a listen to what he said. >> people of israel, they're under attack right now. that's that's because we show great week next is would not happen the weakness this set we've shown, it's unbelievable and it would not have happened if we were in office. >> what are your thoughts on that? >> i just think trump is delusional on this point. it's
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a point that nobody can refute or confirm one way or the other. he doesn't have any idea what to do in the middle east in this situation. remember when he threatened fire and fury against north korea within a year, he had fallen in love with kim jong un. so he's not qualified to be president. i think people often ask me, well, if you don't think trump is qualified to be president, why not vote for biden? look at biden's actions in the past 24 hours, trying to persuade israel not to respond this is this is a measure of two candidates, neither one of whom is qualified at a point of enormous threat, not just a israel's national security. let's be clear what's happening in the middle east is a threat to american national security. and we should be standing at israel's to deal with the threat of iran. >> all right, former ambassador john bolton, thanks so much for your view is really appreciate it, but it'd be coming up and unprecedented attack. does this all risk throwing the region into a wider and deadly or conflict are experts handle
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that their attack was gonna be so unsuccessful? >> they absolutely knew what israel's capabilities are. they knew the prospect that they would get anything through was probably limited. but this was something that iranians felt they had to do in response to israel's killing of senior generals and consulate in damascus the question is how far is iran? i'm going to go into 2010 when the united states kill general soleimani, it was the iranian response was one and done. that's what the united states hopes happens this time that it ends here. but i think we have crossed a threshold, the shadow war that has played out between iran and israel since 1980 pd two is now in the open. there's no going back for a long time. it was rhetorical. and now this red is very real and likely to play out again in the future. >> so when we talk about us out of war, we mean iran arming proxies such as from, such as hizballah's, such as the houthis, and having those proxy groups do that. and we mean israel doing sabotage of the
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iranian nuclear program. we believe it was israel or israel doing targeted secret assassinations of various people involved with iran's nuclear program. but now it is out in the open around directly attacking israel from iranian land israel has lots of options. president biden doesn't seem to want them to do it but biden reportedly told netanyahu, take the win >> yeah, that's right, jake and one of the key things to think about here is there are those asymmetric capabilities get both sides have. the israelis can go after the iranian nuclear program using cyber means. i have a lot stuxnet to like you alluded to or they can do something in terms of special operations type missions, but the key thing that they're going to have to figure out is what kind of response do they really want to do? how are they going to really set things up for the future? because at some point they're going to have to figure out how to live with iran, whether it's in a peaceful way or whether it's purpose ritual, state of
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conflict. and you >> heard very different voices on the show earlier, we had chris saying, take a breath everybody should take a breath. and you had john bolton saying taking a breath deterrence has not worked and iran needs to be hit where at hertz. and this is, this is the dilemma facing joe biden. and netanyahu oh, absolutely. and there's some big decision they have to be made. i think historians will look back on this moment as a turning point was anyone willing or able to get in and defuse tensions between iran and israel. the problem is, we're also coinciding with the crisis in gaza, right? and that's not going any place fast soon in terms of resolution and in many ways the conflict between iran and israel mirrors what's playing out in gaza. and neither conflict do you see any kind of plan any takers, and a willingness to try to get beyond these tensions and as a result, by default, the danger is that we get more of this
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rather than a way out. there's just no way out this visible anytime soon. >> and you heard ambassador bolton say that he'd heard from sources inside israel that hamas of the 99 hostages that our hope to be alive, that hamas probably does not have 99 hostages, almost certainly has just a few dozen laughed and this is all been a misinformation game from hamas, just trying to delay. and israeli attack by, by pretending that there are hostages to be negotiated. this certainly doesn't help matters. >> no, it doesn't end the whole disinformation campaign both sides have been engaged in is not helping release the hostages. and that's going to be a critical issue for the israeli public, as well as for the future of how they're going to actually mediate or even run this conflict. so that's going to really determine whether or not they do raf rolfo are not >> all right. >> thanks so much coming up next another full hour of this expanded special live edition of state of the union. i'm going to talk with the biden chairman of the senate
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