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cup playoffs presented by guy called begin tomorrow on tbs breaking news or is this our multiple breaking stories this hour in the middle east calls for de-escalation, right now. that's after a us official so says israel launched an attack on iran. overnight explosions were reported about 200 miles south of tehran. and your major iranian military airbase. world leaders are now pleading for restraint, hoping to prevent a wider war back here in the, where president donald trump returns to court on day four of his criminal hush money trial of full panel 12 jurors has been selected. today's order of business selective remaining alternate jurors needed so that opening statements can begin. let's begin with the overnight strike in iran, seen as reporters. all around the world to bring you the very latest corresponded jeremy diamond has in tel aviv, cnn, chief
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international security correspondent nick paton walsh is london and national security correspondent at the tasha bertrand is at the pentagon for us. let's begin with the tasha here in washington, natasha, us officials say they did not quote green light this attack. what mourier learning well the biden administration is being extremely tight lift about all of this secretary of state, antony blinken, he really declined to comment at all on the matter during a press conference earlier today saying only that the us was not involved in this operation against iran snot, even discussing or acknowledging that israel was behind this. >> now turn israel is also declining to comment on what occurred in around last night. and this is purposeful. the us does not want to see seem like it has played a hand in this at all and they had been telegraphing to the world and telling israel directly over the last week or so that it would not participate in any offensive strike against iran. but the he administration had been anticipating that something like this might happen. they knew that it was
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very likely that israel was going to respond in some significant way and they were advising them to make sure that that response was limited in scope and we reported earlier in the week that intelligence officials did believe that israel would carry out some limited strike inside iran directly just because of course the strike by iran on israel was so massive and so, and required a very significant response. a us officials here, they were warned just before israel carried out this attack. they didn't get a ton of warning, but still israel did appear to heed. the us is calls for them to give them some kind of heads that before they retaliated against those iranian strikes, jim are in tasha, thanks for that. let's go to jeremy diamond in tel aviv. jeremy what been the reaction inside israel to the strikes? >> well certainly in terms of the israeli government and the israeli military, there has been absolutely no comment on these strikes, no public acknowledgement that these strikes even took place, and that is very much intentional.
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it is intentional because as we've been talking about over the course of the last six days, israel has been looking for a way to carry out a strike that would send a message that that iranian strike on israel over the weekend was unacceptable that across the red line, and that it needed a necessitated a and response to it. but at the same time, by carrying out this limited strike without the kind of public fanfare that might normally accompany us such a strike. israel is saying very quiet about it in order to avoid publicly embarrassing, iran publicly drawing iran into the next level of this for tat. and so a regional intelligence source now telling us that it appears that this is it in terms of this for tat, that iran does not appear to be declined to respond to this at the moment. and so for now, it appears that some kind of balance has been reached here to de-escalate the situation and prevent this from escalating into a full-blown war between the two countries.
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but that doesn't mean that the public debate inside of israel is over. we've already heard from itamar ben-gvir, the country's far national security pretty minister in a one-word tweets saying lame, effectively, seeming to talk about these israeli strikes. and so there's no question that netanyahu is still going to come under some pressure from his right wing that there should have been a more forceful, more public response to this attack by iran. but overwhelmingly the israeli public wanted this response to take into consider iteration the concerns from the united states and other allies who helped in that successful air defense effort. and so it appears that balance has been achieved with these strikes all right, jeremy, and let's bring in nick paton walsh, who has been watching this from london, nyc. what can you tell us about the reaction from inside tehran yeah, look, i mean, since these apparent strikes this morning, we've had minimal information out of iranian military officials, some suggesting that three drones were shot down. >> some suggests in the explosions heard so data is for khan were essentially air
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defense in operation, no real transparency on any damage that may have been calls, though it appears that a military base near if found may have been indeed the target so, so far to run not necessarily speaking of immediate retaliation, not seeking to escalate back, although we did here prior to the strikes, some extraordinary rhetoric from their foraminifera speaking to cnn, here's what they said in case the israeli regime, for a bit hard but dome embarks on adventurism again and takes action against the interests of iran then next response from us will be immediate and at a maximum level now obviously, it's important to separate the rhetoric from what people are capable of and what they actually want. it's quite clear. i think from all the signaling we've seen from tehran, they don't want a regional war, frankly militarily, it would be and y's for them, it was certainly require them to activate their
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proxies. hezbollah in lebanon to the north of israel that could be potentially exceptionally damaging for both sides. it may also be something israel doesn't really want at this stage still preoccupied in gaza, potentially talking about the invasion of rafah emily, despite the us wanting a clear humanitarian plan there for that. and on top of that all to the united states, very keen to prevent escalation here, particularly during the forthcoming election campaign, nobody needs a raging conflict expanding in the middle east that drags them in. and so while this region jim is phenomenally unpredictable and we got to this point through miscalculation by israel and iran i think it's fair to say what we saw last night was a calibrated israeli response. and iran now the great benefit of being autocracy, they get to basically dictate what people believe has occurred or put the information out there as they choose their saying, not much happened here. let's move on. israel gets say they retaliated. iran gets to say it didn't really hurt them them, and potentially this chapter
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closed, although the taboo of both sides directly attacking each other broken a big change essentially on that alone gym all, right nick, paton walsh. thank you. and thanks to everybody bringing us reporting from all around the world. we appreciate it. and for some analysis, i want to bring in brigadier general mark kibet, as well as jonathan chanzeaux, the senior vice president for research at the foundation for defense of democracies. he served as a terrorism finance analysts at the treasury department in general. can we are here with me in the street? let me go to you first at what's your reaction to what we saw overnight? i mean yes israel retaliated. but is it the kind of retaliatory strike that. might sort of calm things down for the moment. >> i think it will calm things down. but more importantly, what i think it's going to do is move this war back into the shadows, 45 years. we're in israel have been fighting each other, quote, in the shadows. this month was the first time it came out. i think both countries want to get this back into the shadows yeah. i mean,
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is there a dangerous element? >> to this? is there not in that both sides struck each other in their own territory over this past week. i mean, you can say, well, israel was able to knock out along with that coalition that came together, knock out all of those missiles and rockets and drones that were coming in and iran didn't really sustain that much damage. but something has been breached here well, in fact, israel has gone into around many, many times this shadow war. >> and the shadow war, we're not really sure what iran has done. >> the, it's relish, probably wouldn't admit it had been done in any case. >> but i don't necessarily believe this breaching of this line between attacking the country's rather than through proxies really did anything more than show both sides they want to get back to status quo there has been some reciprocity and some balance real richie, real question is, has the term it's been achieved again yeah, jonathan, what do you think
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about that? >> has some level of deterrence but achieved as general was just saying i do, i think actually the israelis had done something fairly remarkable last night and i'm not sure that it's fully registered here or even around the region. >> they use some kind of standoff weapon last night some people are saying it was a glide bomb. other people are saying that we don't even know what it's called, but they fired it from quite far away. they were able to actually penetrate iranian air defenses without alerting anyone that it has happened. and they did so in an area that was near some of those nuclear facilities that iran would like to protect. what the israelis have essentially done is to say, look, you've just tried to attack us and you failed. we have sent roughly ten of the munitions that you sent our way. we sent them to you and we were able to hit things that made you blind, that you are now unable to protect the facilities. some of those nuclear facilities that you treasure. and so what the israelis have said is if you
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keep doing this, you're going to lose a lot more. you're going to lose your eyesight around the country in areas that you never even thought you can lose. and so i think that there has been some deterrence re-established here on the part of israel. i would actually even dare say that the iranians have swapped followed this, that they want to move on because they now understand through messages sent kinetically. and i think also verbally from the united states or maybe germany or other partners, that this is a war that the iranians can ill-afford yeah i, mean general kevin what about that? >> and also the us was given some kind of advanced warning before this took place last night, and it was communicated that the administration was not entirely on board, not on board with this does that indicate that prime minister benjamin netanyahu is not listening to the president or maybe indicates that he did in fact, i think throughout the war against gaza and now this organ saron it is clear that prime
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minister netanyahu was more focused on his own national interests his own national security it's great to get advice from your friends. >> but at the end of the day, he is the one that's responsible for protecting israel. and that doesn't matter if somebody else from washington dc tells him otherwise. now, regarding the target, what's very interesting about the target was it was in s4 khan near newton's but let's be candid deaf facilities built into a mountain, very little chance significant damage could have been done. this was performative. this was a show of force nothing more yeah. >> and and jonathan, i remember from my days of the white house at the israeli army, they are hyper-focused on these nuclear facilities in iran. and that target in particular seems to be, seems to speak a lot of volumes, speak, speak volumes what do you think? >> i do? i mean, again, when you look at the isfahan area, there are a number of facilities actually that i
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think the iranians would like to safeguard there. i would also just note here if there is some broader geopolitical implications that we need to look at. this was russian air defenses that were penetrated last night. and i do want sure. whether there's a message that can be sent even to the russians and the battlefield in ukraine, that the israelis have something here, whatever it was last night that they used, that maybe bus can now deploy if we wanted to, if we even have those capabilities. but certainly i think the iranians have to be quaking a little bit here because they were unable to detect what happened. i think there's still scrambling to figure out how the israelis did this last night. and i think that is what is i think pushing everybody to maybe take a step back and pause and reassess all right, a great discussion. both you brigadier general mark kim and jonathan shands or wish we had more time really appreciate the insights this morning. thanks so much. let's discuss more now with republican congressman kelly
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armstrong of north dakota congressman your response to what we saw take place overnight i think we saw that when iran tried to shoot into israel, that with the right resources and the right allies, israel blocked, okay, 98% plus of it and israel proved last night to the to the iranian regime, they can hit them anywhere within their homeland. so hopefully, the response appears to be proportional, and we'll see if we can get everything to cool down a little bit. >> yeah. and congressman me, does it add some or the events of the last week? does it add some urgency to get these foreign aid bills through the house there has been so much talk about this aid for ukraine, but i mean, obviously aid to israel is part of this as well. has this added some urgency? >> well, i think so. i think last week added the urgency. i mean, the reality is we're using million dollar missiles to strike down $50,000 drones. that's i mean, that's the reality, but it worked really, really effectively. what israel needs is resources and they need freedom to operate. and that's how i think the
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republican conferences looked at that in the same way. and i mean from our perspective, i mean, every time they chant death to israel and iran, they followed up with death to america. i mean, this is a real strategic national interests for the united states what about aid to ukraine? >> let's, let's shift to that if we can. what what are you planning to do on that where are you at right now on that? well, i think the biggest problem with this right now and the unfortunate side of what we have going on on our side is i mean, we'll see what the amendment process is, but there's a lot of us that believe in getting lethal, lethal aid to ukraine. >> we think we could get it paid for, but because we can't get out of our own wray way, i think we're essentially going to have to swallow what the senate sent us and to my, to my knowledge, and as far as i'm aware, we'll see what the final packages there's just too much non-lethal money engaged in. there, not enough oversight and so you think it will pass by this weekend, will see all of these these measures go through and over to the senate. i think yeah. i mean, if i had if i had to guess, i think
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they'll all pass probably with different coalitions. i think that'll be the case, but i mean, the first step is obviously the rule vote here in a little bit. and we'll make sure that goes. we'll have an amendment process tomorrow and open debate i've said this since we got here and we got involved in this. if there's ever been anything that deserved real honest open debate on the floor of the house. it's the united states is position as regard to the conflict in ukraine. and unfortunately, we haven't had that opportunity yet and have all of this aid is going to pass at the end of the day. i mean, what was the point of these last couple of months, this whole exercise that we saw in the house with some of the members of your party, people like marjorie taylor greene, and so on, sort of gumming up the works, threatening the speed bigger. and his gavel and so on. did that was that productive? >> i don't know if i would call it productive. i think the original portion of this is there are a lot of us again, that was i think the united states has a role in the conflict but wants more oversight, wants less money spent for non, non-lethal may
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means and then each and every one of us goes home to our constituents. and the number one issue on everybody's plate at is the border and it's really, really frustrating to my constituents in north dakota that we haven't been able to figure that out. so i mean, i agree with the original attempt to try and couple ukrainian aid with border security, but i think the speaker has made a call. i respect the speaker's decision. he's in the big chair. we've got we've got but to vote majority and we're going to move forward right now i mean, what do you think? >> i mean, i understand you're heading for the exits. if i'm not mistaken, you're gonna be leaving the house of representatives. a lot of your colleagues are doing the same thing. we hear a lot of staffers are doing this almost everybody down to just about every person says it's because the house is kind of unworkable at this point. what's your assessment? is it because is it because people like matt gaetz and marjorie taylor greene are kind of in charge over there. what's going on? >> i disagree with that, at least in my personal perspective. this is the second
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best job in all of politics. just turns out for me the best job in all politics opened up and that's the governor in north dakota. but yeah, a lot of people are amino, a lot of people are frustrated so a lot of people want, want to actually govern, want to pass rules. i think one of the things we forget and we'll get to do it a little bit tomorrow is when kevin mccarthy got elected. speaker. he marketized the house. i mean, i served for the first four years here under speaker pelosi, and it wasn't even that minority members could bring amendments you wouldn't even allow our committee chairs to bring amendments on bills. and i just hope we keep that process open. i did it a little too much though. >> we're well first, bring the motion to vacate might be too much of a good thing. >> yeah. i think when you have a one vote majority of which will have next week and you have a one mole vote, one vote motion to vacate. i think that's a real structural problem for the majority kernen, i think it needs to be changed all right. >> congressman armstrong best of luck to you. thanks so much for your time. we appreciate thanks all right. is still to come 12 to yorker's will decide the fate of a former
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it's it's kinda surprising how quickly this one, even after a couple of jurors had to go by the wayside and lo and behold, we might have opening arguments what on monday that's that's fast i mean, get your neck braces out. there's limit a whiplash him yesterday and today we think won't be deferral be different than that. it will actually have the same number of jurors at the end of the day, if not more than we started with, remember, yesterday was a lot of back-and-forth between some jurors who had already been seated, then being dismissed after back-and-forth nothing discussions with the judge or even believing that anybody had been compromised. but here is where it stands were outside the manhattan courthouse today. and i'm joined now by kristen holmes. so here's what's happening now. 12 jurors, one alternate seated, five still needed that number. could of course, change and we know that the jurors aren't going to know that they are the so-called alternate, right the whole premise have an alternate is they have to be able to stand in and deliberate at the end of the trial, should they be to do
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so until they're alerted in advance that you might not be needed grabs, it might not lead since the same extent, but this is going to be a very significant moment if we have the entire jury today that's right. so that's what they're doing right now. so we know already there were 22 people leftover from the 96 panel that was brought on yesterday. they are going through the questionnaire process, right? this second, we are told that both sides, they usually get 25 minutes to go back and forth. they're going to 30 because last time it was only 18 people in the box. now at 22, they've asked for a little bit of extended time when they are questioning these various jurors. >> two so far this morning to people have already been excused of the 22, but again, this is very moving very fast as this fluid people who said that they thought they could be impartial, but they slept on it and decided that they couldn't be we're looking for five other alternate jurors here, possibly more if the judge decides to change that number. >> but right now, we're sticking with this to increase that number by is that number props? so right now we're sticking with this potential for six alternates. one has already been seated and they're going through it's really is this is actually even a more wide variety of new yorkers
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iranian state media is downplaying the impact of the strike, saying the situation in the city is durable and that their nuclear program sites are are secure. a secretary of state, tony blinken said this warning that the us was not involved in any offensive operations in iran as of now, the israeli military said it was unable to comment and tehran has not identified a source behind this attack. so this is another sign of rising tensions between israel and iran. and further raises the threat of a broader conflict in the middle east he's joining me now, former defense secretary under president obama, former cia director leon panetta. ms secretary, what what's your reaction to all of this? i mean, was this a bit of a gamble on the part of israel might've gone spectacularly awful way. i mean, it didn't do a whole lot in both sides are sort of stuff okay. we're moving on now. but it could have ended up a lot worse well, there's there's no question that the rules of engagement, if changed in that part of the
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world. >> i mean, we've just had not only israel striking an embassy complex in damascus, but iran then striking back with 300 missiles into israel and now israel has struck at a target in iran having said that it also appears that israel did pay attention to a lot of the warnings from the world not to dramatically escalate the response this was a pretty targeted effort aimed at hitting a target in iran near the nuclear facilities and sending a message to iran they've kept their mouth shut. they haven't claimed any kind of victory here that keeping quiet and at the same time, iran does not appear willing to respond. so i think i think the hope is that perhaps we have achieved some kind of rough
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balance at this point and that perhaps deterrence has been re-established yeah. >> the secretary i hear a lot of that cautious optimism today and i i'll second it. i hope i hope everybody is right about this. there are some is concerning though, is they're not about the fact that this line was crossed militarily between these two countries over the last week and i think that sets the stage, does it not for potentially more bad things to happen down the road? now that both sides have said, okay, we could do this and no big deal, we move on that doesn't always work out so well if this continues not not in that part of the world the reality is that both sides have in the past been much more targeted israel has used more targeted assassination efforts and going after specific targets and iran basically relied on their proxies to
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respond that that may no longer be the case. >> i mean, i know they'll try to they'll try to get back to that but once once you've crossed the line and you've actually attacked targets in another country it gets very hard when something else now happens for those advising the leadership in both countries to say, wait a minute, this requires a direct attack as opposed to some kind of reduced proxy attack. so once that appetite is there i think it increases the danger. it doesn't reduce it and i guess one of the questions for the biden administration of the president for the white house is, let's say, iran wants to retaliate somewhere down the road, or we get into another these for tat rounds where they go back and forth obviously the world got very lucky last
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saturday when that coalition came together, healthy israelis repel that aerosol from iran. >> i have to imagine ms secretary if if the iranians are more successful next time around and perhaps they telegraphed at last weekend in a way that it was repelled. but next time around, if it doesn't doesn't work out that way, the us could get drawn in what, what, what kind of advice would you give the president, the administration in a scenario like that? we read jumping too far ahead of ourselves. what do you think? >> well i think we're probably looking at two paths forward gym at this point is that i do believe that the better path would be to have israel reinforce that coalition that came together. that in effect really put together the defense of israel by 99%, knocking down those missiles. it's a great coalition made up of the united
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states and great britain and france jordan saudi arabia, uae. i consider that a great coalition for israel to be able to work with not only in dealing with iran, but in dealing with terrorism generally so if, if israel smart and relies on that coalition, i think there's a way to bring the war in gaza to an end. to look forward to what happens in the next chapter in gaza and hopefully resolve some of these terrible humanitarian issues. that still need to be dealt with. that's that's the hopeful path. the path of concern is that if anything happens here and in foreign policy, in that part of the world, it's, there's all ways miscalculations. there's always efforts to try to upset the cart. i mean, nothing has changed the relationship. it's
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still antagonistic and if something happens if there is an action that takes place either by a proxy or by the players themselves then i think it's katy bar, the door because both sides know that they have been successful and hitting targets in the other country and although iran has more questions make no mistake about it, iran is trying to figure out what they have to do to be able to penetrate israel and be able to effectively hit those targets. what israel did show is that they could penetrate iran and that iran could not take defensive action so there are a lot of questions that have been raised here as a result of these efforts. and the question is going to be whether the leadership wants to maintain a period of balance or whether or not they're going to continue to try to hit each other all right.
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>> facet any questions indeed ms secretary? thank you so much. hopefully, we'll go into quieter weekend this weekend. hope it is for you as well. thanks a lot. leon panetta. thanks so much. >> thank you all right. >> good to see you. >> and anytime right now, the house is voting on advancing the foreign aid bills for final passage some very important votes about to take place. please stay tuned for that will take you live to capitol hill next how would really happen sunday? >> the people 28th at nine on cnn ai is redefining work artificial intelligence is super charging our own human intelligence. >> and that's what we'll move business forward. >> machine learning robotics and generative ai are increasing productivity. >> it's celebrating decision-making and the impacting our lives at work and beyond ai's real value is and how come? >> companies use it to empower their workforce and earn trust with customers to maximize your ai and hi investment turned to
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democrats again, what can you tell us? >> yeah, they in fact, this is very unusual. what's happening in the house of representatives , typically these procedural votes happen long straight-party lines. the majority party votes for the minority party votes against it, but the politics have been scrambled year because of the deep republican divisions over this foreign aid package that includes aid to ukraine, two israel at taiwan. this is the first procedural vote that is necessary to take up that larger package. but because of those republican divisions, we are seeing gop defections in this bot right now. we are seeing their 18 republicans who voted against this. if this were a straight party-line vote, that would mean this would fail. but democrats are going to move across the island carry this over the finish line just one democrat has voted, yes so far, but we expect many more. this is all due to the handling of this aid to ukraine republicans had demanded that this be tied to border security. mike johnson calculated, you simply didn't have the votes to tie this to a border security plan. instead, moving forward with this effort
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that democrats do the port. but in talking to members on both sides of the aisle, they are assessing johnson's leadership on this. democrats are applauding him even if they say it was a little slower than they would like. and republicans who have defended him are pushing back against the far right how would you characterize the speaker's handling of this situation on the ukraine aid slow should have been done months ago, should have just put the senate bill on the floor we would have gotten 300 votes. >> and frankly, this is a moment for moral clarity for everyone the speaker is doing the right thing at the right time for the right reasons. and the institution as a whole should respect that, and they should reflect on that and if the motion to vacate comes, i think it is incumbent upon everybody to protect the institution now, the big question is if and when does that motion to vacate come? >> of course, that is the ability of any one individual member to call for the vote of
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the ouster of the sitting speaker. we saw that happened in an unprecedented then in fashion last fall to kevin mccarthy. now, there are threats on the far right to mike johnson's speakership. to republicans have come out in support of it. marjorie taylor greene, leading that effort. the question is going to be whether or not she goes forward, she can call that vote at any time. would that be taken within two legislative days? and then what happens then we'll democrats vote with republicans to kill that effort. that is the expectation, but democratic leaders are not saying if they will do that, hoping to more concessions from mike johnson in the process, but that is the drama that is playing out. but the significance of this vote right now, moving forward on this massive aid package, as ukraine says, it desperately needs this money right now, jim, yeah, a lot of a lot riding on these votes over the next couple of days. manu raju on capitol hill tracking it all for us. thank you. monitor very much coming up. we're live outside of manhattan courthouse as potential alternate jurors being narrowed down for president donald trump's criminal trial new ally in the
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call now i'm lauren fox on capitol hill, and this is cnn welcome back i'm laura coates outside of a manhattan courthouse where jury selection for donald trump's historic criminal hush money trial continues. i'm joined by a kristen holmes are really important point here. we've got 12 jurors. we know who've already been seated now we're onto the alternates now. normally in a court proceeding, you wouldn't want your alternatives to know their alternatives because you might think that they may not be as attack but here the judge has already announced, we know who are seated. jurors are, but those alternates are going to have to maybe one day assume a role in deliberations. they've got to focus. nonetheless,
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it's really interesting. >> it isn't, it's also interesting to see that some of these people are taking this very serious flee even as alternate three of them saying that they thought about it and they could not be impartial clearly understanding that the stakes are so high that there is a likelihood that they could be called. and one of the things we've already seen is that to seated jurors then came back and said that they could no longer or at least one of them so that they could no longer be impartial. so they're taking this very serious sally, as you can tell, even though the chances are it's less likely that they would sit on the jury then obviously, if they're in the box, stranger things have happened. of course it's moving very quickly, right now and the afternoon, if they're able to already seat this jury and full, they'll probably at this. what's called a sandoval hearing, a way of alerting the defendant, donald trump, who they might question him about and what but they might question. >> he's going to tell testifies. he might testify as events he might not. but regardless, he's got a lot of people out there who are followers for defending him on social media, even in spite of the gag order, not even just defending them on social media, but really lashing out just at
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the judge, at the jurors. already. the important thing to note here is that donald trump is under a gag order. sure but his millions of followers and particularly some very high profile right-wing social media influencers are not under that guy remember we are getting information about these jurors that we are specifically not putting out because we don't want to release any kind of identifying information however, when it comes to what the actual rules are, other than naming where exactly they work. >> the judge just said, use common sense. so we are using our best comment it sounds to make sure the identity is protected, but that does not mean that these right-wing social media influencers who have access to the same information are going to use the same level of quote, unquote common sense on what they put out which could be a problem for the jury. and also, it really does give donald trump this extra megaphone without him actually having to put forward. >> that's really what we've also seen with him in his actual violations, or at least with a prosecution says is a
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violation of the gag order is him re-posting other people's pose about the witnesses, et cetera. >> so interesting to see this kind of dynamic play out and how it impacts this case moving forward. >> and that's why the alternates are gonna be so important because within one within one de, not even 25 periods, you had jurors who felt that their memory had been compromised and therefore did not want to be or could not be impartial. this is why the gold chains are so important here, but also when you go ahead and think about why the judge is saying use common sense. remember there is this notion of prior restraint. the court can't be in a position of telling you what you can pre publish if it's a matter of public record. and yet and still, we an immediate have to have that balance between access to information for the public and a very high interest trial. and also trying to ensure that the process adjusted this is fair. yeah, it's really important to think about there's so much that's happening right now, jim, there are a lot going on. i'm gonna go back to you in washington as we're waiting hey, missy can make finalize this panel of total of 18 even this morning
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yeah. >> so much happened this week just during jury selection makes you wonder what's going to happen. what are we in store for next week when things might actually get started with opening arguments on everything else. laura coates, great to see a great job as always, thanks so much and thank you for joining us this morning. i'm jim acosta, our next our newsroom with wolf blitzer starts after a short break. have a great weekend let's fill. >> sunday at nine when you're the leader in disaster clean up and restoration how do you make like it never even happened, happened whatever comes your way. there's a pro for that surf crow like it never even happened i'm getting
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