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romo, the georgia state capitol in atlanta. >> this is cnn welcome to inside politics. i'm dana bash, jury selection is nearly complete in the case the people of the state of new york versus donald j. trump, 12 jurors and one alternate have been sworn in right now. judge juan roshan and lawyers from both sides are trying to fill up the panel with five more alternate trump is inside the room and we're told that he's been looking right at jurors as they answer questions and whispering with his attorney. now, if you were wondering about his mood on the
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way in, roll the tape rape, drug. >> it's coming from the white house, new york it's going down is a very corrupt place to do business dying in any amount of people are not going to be moving to the yard. this will go on for another four or five weeks and is very unfair people know. and people know it's hard. and i have to be released to the gag. >> they've taken away my constitutional rights to speak and editors i have a lot to say to you, and i'm not allowed to say okay, again, there's no evidence that this is coming from the white house and what you just heard was him speaking. he's just limited and the things that he can say about the judge and the judge, his family because of things that he has said on social media now, going back to what's happening right now, if the jury selection situation wraps up today, opening statements are expected on monday, it will be a trial. the likes of which this country has never seen before. cnn, chief
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legal analyst laura coates, is still live in front of the manhattan courthouse. laura, what's happening right now what a day this has been. >> we are that much closer to getting the 18 jurors that are needed. that's to 12 plus the six alternates. who are those alternates, by the way, might very well be needed over the course of the next several weeks by this trial goes on we know now that the questioning will be the same for the alternative. they had the same standards. they must meet as being not only qualified to be on the jury, they'll have the same questioning the same word, deer, lots of details about whether they could truly be impartial wearing a lot of questions from the prosecution shin and of course, then the defense on the tissue, how about 25 minutes per total to talk to the entire jury pool of alternate two will also be seated. the jury alternate, they are aware likely that they in fact, will be alternate, but they will have the same requirement to to be attentive and to listen because they might have to assume the role of one of the deliberating jurors at the end of the
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inclusion of this trial, we know that if this wraps up this morning later on today, they'll have the examination. what's known as they sandoval hearing a phrase you're going to hear a lot that's just lawyer speak for. i want to give the defendant notice of what might come up. should he choose to testify? they laid out a number of categories. it might be included in that realm. and so he'll have that hearing later on today with an eye towards on only partially opening statements on monday, but also the gag order hearing it is not been resolved yet. that will happen on tuesday. i want to bring in right now the kristen holmes, he's got some breaking news for us about what at least one juror is saying about the pressure. kristen, what are we hearing? >> yeah. this is really fascinating because it goes to show you just how intense this process is for some of these people. they believed that they could be fair and impartial. they believe they could sit on this jury. they have set through rounds of questioning and now we have one juror who was waiting to see if they would become an alternate. and this is basically the prosecution is now doing their
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questioning the 30 minutes of questioning she began crying when she was handed the microphone during the questioning and said, i'm sorry, i thought i could do this. i wouldn't want someone who feels this way to judge my case either. they went on to say, i don't want to feel like i've wasted someone's time. this is just so much more stressful than i thought it would be. and this is really indicative of what we are seeing here and just how pride profile this case is and what it means to some of these jurors to be sitting in the room with donald trump, a former president. we know that he is sitting there. yes, he is looking at some of the jurors with the times he's going through paperwork there talked about their experience was just how shocking it was to be that close to him. and also the pressure of understanding that this is going to be covered by the media so closely that understanding who this defendant is, what this could mean moving forward and so this just gives you a real embodiment of why these alternate are so important. yes. she hadn't been chosen to
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be in alternate yet, but you can see we're not even at the beginning stages. she had gone through several different iterations, been asked multiple times if she could be fair and impartial. and essentially broke during this questioning because it is so stressful and that is something that could happen again to various journey because as we move forward, the elephant in the room truly hair dana is the fact that you've got a presidential candidate. the fact that a prosecutor talked about this not being about trump being a former president, not being about a candidate for the presidency. it's not about popularity, it's not about who you're going to vote for. they said it's about whether the evidence proves he's guilty beyond a reasonable doubt with the crimes he's been charged with. this is a fascinating morning, dana i sure as wow, what a scene that kristen just described. let's talk more about this with caroline cook. she is a lawyer and jury consultant also our very own chief legal correspondent, paula reid. thanks so much. both of you. i want to start with you. i mean, you have been through many, many scenarios
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where you have jury selection going on. nothing, of course, quite like what we're seeing now with the former president who by all accounts, is staring, right at the jurors and the potential jurors, which i'm sure is something, that they have not witnessed before and certainly they have not felt before this particular potential alternate crying saying that she thought she would be okay and she doesn't think she can be impartial yeah. >> well, you know, the great thing about the jury system is it works and that's a perfect example of somebody who's taking her duty series fleet, giving it a lot of thought. and wanting to be a fair person and being honest about the fact that she can't handle it. and that's what i mean, honestly, i've seen so many different situations with lay people's approaching important cases they're, up to the task of standing up to big corporations, standing up to the government. they do the right thing. and so i think it's encouraging and should be
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encouraging to the defense and to the government to see jurors feeling that they can admit when they can't do it and, others, of course, saying that they can do it and they feel that they can be impartial. yeah absolutely. >> this is moved a lot faster than a lot of experts and even members of both sides, aza two teams expected if we are on track as the judge expected to begin on monday, and there were some folks who were suggesting that this could potentially take weeks. so it does appear that they have i've been able to for now seated jury now, they just got to see it. this alternate let me take a broader look at what this jury looks like so far. and we're just going to talk generally about their jobs, right? >> salesperson, investment banker, a corporate lawyer, security engineer, english teacher, software engineer, civil litigator, retired wealth manager, a speech therapist, physical therapist first thing i'm thinking is this is very manhattan right which is what you, what you want, you want a jury to represent the people in
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the place in which this trial is happening well, yes, in theory, i mean, that's the way the rules apply. but i don't think that's what the defense wants. and you know, it's just interesting because the prosecutor is saying to the jury pool when he has his time to do the questions he's actually really just lecturing them, which is really not void year. he's telling them what to think. this is not about politics, this is not about who you're going to vote for. well, it really is in the jurors know that that's why they're break that's why people are saying, i can't do this because they know it's bigger than just what's in front of them and so i just think that that having a balance of power is important in that even though this jury is representative of manhattan, it's not really representative of the rest of the country. however, i think it's a good cross-section and from trump's
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perspective, i think i would be okay. yeah. with who those people are. yeah. i'm glad you said that because that is when you talked about that, not necessarily being something that the defense is quite happy with and that, of course, has been trump's one of trump's argument's going into this and his lawyers as well, that it's manhattan. i'm never going to get a fair trial. it's manhattan, of course is not the most conservative island in the world. then i just want to dig deep specifically on one of the jurors, paula der 11 she is somebody that trump's legal team wanted out. she's not married, doesn't have kids, works for a multinational apparel company, does not like donald trump's quote, persona only reads headlines and industry specific publications. what are you hearing from the trump team? so they clearly tried to remove this person. >> the judge it rejected that on the law. she said she could be impartial. the judge is correct, but it was a little surprising. i've talked to some
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sources that she was not removed because this does open an avenue of attack for the former president. he has to be careful because this is a juror, but this is certainly something that they're going to bring up on appeal. they are reserving every single issue this issue of can they get a fair a fair jury, right. they fought to get that specific number of how many people said at the outset, i can't even be impartial. i gotta go right because they wanted to show how difficult it is in this venue. then you see someone like this getting on the jury after she called him selfish. and i believe self-serving. >> one of the graphic. but that did surprise me that the judge let first day, even though you know that this is going to be an issue not only the court of public opinion, but in a possible appeal if there's a conviction, let's put that up. he just seems very selfish and self-serving, so i don't really appreciate that in any public servant. so i don't know him as a person, so i don't know how he is in terms of his integrity it's just not my cup of tea yeah. >> it's an awkward position to be in when you're the defendant and you have to you're being forced to either use a strike and was out when
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they ran out of strikes. >> i believe so because it's very close to the end and they were trying to remove her for cause. i believe so, but it was very chaotic. that's all happened really quickly, but i think that was part of the issue. >> if i were in that situation and i had two strikes left, i'm like saving my strikes for the worst of the worst. >> and that's a big disadvantage the way they did this jury selection, because you can't see all the dented apples at once. so you don't know if tomorrow is going to be worse than today? i would probably live with her too because people he isn't people's cup of tea. he he knows that he's not trying to curry favor with anyone. i mean, that's sort of his, you'd think he would behave a little bit more with a judge, but he doesn't because he is who he is. >> what on that note, paul, i gotta ask you about the fact that the assistant district attorney, josh steinglass is saying that he is not going to let the defense know ahead of time which witnesses are going to be brought once the trial starts is presumably that will happen next week. and when
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blanche, who todd blanche who was trump's lawyer, proposed that he would assure the district attorney's office that trump would but not post about the witnesses if they shared their witness list. the judge responded, i don't think you can make that representation so they're the judge is not only saying no, i'm not going to force them to give you the witnesses, but also i don't think you have control of your client, so it's great for the defense team. >> there. these are the legal consequences of these political attacks, right? if you we're not abiding by the gag order. the district attorney's offices look, we're not gonna we're not gonna extend that courtesy that we normally would to give you these witnesses. and this is something that i'm sure it's very frustrating to the trump lawyers because they would love to know who has gumming down the pipe so that they can adequately prepare. but the district attorney's office, clearly that is an argument that is a fear that as well founded, the judge agreed. and i should say first of all, thank you, both. i should say that there will be a hearing on the gag order that is in place, that he the former president, is maybe think a little bit,
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that's going to happen next week. thanks so much for your expertise. always good to see you, paula, and coming up. is this it new images exclusive to cnn show the aftermath of israel's retaliation inside iran, the question, hey taking over the entire world now, will iran ratchet up already sky high tensions in the middle east? stay witness there's new ally in the fight against climate change. >> this is new car business bucaram. >> and we just need to protect nature will do the rest. >> carbon plus cnn, sunday at nine million turn-off alarm amelia, whether reason send amelia unlocked the door, i'm afraid i can't do that. >> can why not did you forget something i approaching shake the future isn't scary. >> not investing in it is so
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this is cnn right now, tortured uncertainty about what happens next in the middle east us official confirms to cnn that israel struck inside iran. >> its daring move.& the question now is whether this back-and-forth will continue or even escalate into an all-consuming regional war or a fairly limited nature of the response may have found a goldilocks way through the trickiest of crises that we have seen in the region in years the strike happened here near isfahan, and that is a military base. us officials tell cnn the target was non-nuclear. the us was told ahead of time, but a senior official says the biden administration did not bless the strike let's get straight to cnn's jeremy diamond, who is in israel. jeremy, what are you hearing from sources inside the netanyahu government well
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then the netanyahu government, as well as the israeli military are completely silent on these overnight strikes. >> and that is very much intentional as we've been talking king over the course of the last week about the ways in which the israeli government might be able to thread the needle here, both ensure that that attack by iran over the weekend, the first thing and its, of its kind on israeli soil would go on, would not go unanswered, but also at the same time trying to avoid escalating this conflict between is berlin, iran, into a full-blown war? and it appears here that they have actually managed to thread that needle. and the lack of public fanfare around this is very much a part of achieving that goal. we have heard from the iranians last night, hours before this strike actually took place, they had hated that an israeli attack on his iranian soil would result in an immediate and overwhelming response of by
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iran targeting israel. and so far that hasn't happened. and in fact, a regional source, intelligence source has told us that there is no indication now that that for tat between iran and israel is going to continue suggesting that israel may have achieved the right balance here in terms of sending the message that it felt it needed to send while avoiding further collation here. now, in terms of the united states, what we are hearing from them is a continued focus on, not on what happened overnight from israel, but rather on a ron's attack over the weekend. and that was also a goal of this israeli response, was that to ensure that any israeli response wouldn't from what has begun to happen over the course of the last it's few days. and that is the international coalition forming once again to isolate iran, to hold iran accountable as the secretary of state, tony blinken said today, and that is also very much something that fishermen netanyahu would like to see continue and in this way, it seems like it will be able to continue. dana. >> oh, such great reporting how
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many layers of important nuance there, jeremy, thank you so much here to continue talking about this moment and the consequences cnn, military analysts, retired major general spider marks and founding partner and washington correspondent for puck news julia ya fee. thank you so much for being here. both of you general marks. i will start with you talk about what we saw overnight from a military perspective. >> well this was an attack by israel very clearly against a military target so i think the definition of proportionality is at play here. i think it works. israel went after the delivery capabilities that the iranians used last saturday night this was an attack against missile production. missile capability. it was an airbase. it's got military ground capability, and it was not as reported an attack against s for khan nuclear enrichment capability and research and development
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capability really this is all about deterrence. deterrence is all about trying to convince a potential adversary on aggressor that there's a better alternative than going to war and in the case of what took place last saturday, israel demonstrated deterrence. the iranians fail dramatically. i think it's fair to say that it was feckless. it fell on its face and did nothing that iran was hoping it might do. on the other hand, israel has now responded to iran and does or-awn feel like it has achieved a level of detail? so this is where we are right now about what's going to take place in terms of next steps. >> and julia, it, talk about the sound of silence from both the biden administration and jeremy's reporting largely from the netanyahu government will put ben gvir aside for a second, who? it's very right-wing and called it lame or something to that extent. but just picking up on the deterrence idea that general marx talked about the
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intentional quiet response from the biden administration in particular, what does that tell you well, it tells me that the two allies, israel and us have different objectives and different interests here for the biden administration, it was very clear to signal very loudly, which it did through various leaks to the press that it was not interested in this becoming a wider regional war that it did not want israel to retaliate and that it did not back israel's retaliation against iran nor did it guarantee israel. >> it's help if israel went further in this, right? so kind of distancing itself, israel felt it had an interest in providing some kind of deterrence. again, this was an unprecedented attack on israeli soil, which itself was an honor a response to an unprecedented attack by israel on a
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diplomatic facility, whether or not the shingle had been hung up two weeks before, not under the vienna convention. it's still considered sovereign iranian territory. so israel felt it had to respond somehow but also calibrate its response in a way that wouldn't alienate the us more than it already has in the last six months. so again, you're seeing allies don't always have total overlap in terms of their interests and their priorities in general, i want to read you a quote from cms shine, former mossad head of research. this is a quote given to the new york times today the way they presented to their own people. this is speaking about iran and the fact that the skies are open already allows them to decide not to respond can you kind of take it from there and explain what that means with regard to the positioning and
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posturing that we're seeing now yeah i think. >> what it says is that iran understands it. israel's got an incredible capability militarily. they are comfortable operating on multiple lines of effort, right? you got stuff going on and gaza, hezbollah as routinely their israel has some internal political things that have to deal with and now they can conduct a strike and we haven't gotten into the details because we don't know the details. of what the strike looks like. i mean, did they aircraft fast mover transit over iraq? did it make it without any kind of detection i would assume it did, but will have to piece that together. so iran understands that is dealing with a very capable adversary in the form or the idf. they're going to remain silent. what i would also say if i can comment very briefly as i don't know this, but the us silence indicates to me that they were apprised of what was going to take place and that's why i think we saw the secretary of state earlier today was very, very silent. he
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didn't answer any of those questions. and you have to assume nine states understood. didn't approve. they weren't the decision loop, but they understood what was going to take place on the nature of the attack just real quick. >> i see you nodding your head, julia yeah. >> no, i agree with the major general that the us again, didn't approve, but was appraised. i think it would've been very much in israel's interests to appraise washington of what it was about to do. but to me it's also very classically iran. think about what happened after the us strike that. assassinated general qassem soleimani, who was a much bigger deal than the two generals that were assassinated by israel earlier this month right? is iran talked a really big game about how this man had been martyred, about how it was going to retaliate and in the end, it sent a dozen there's missiles at a us base in iraq, right?
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mostly landed and open heels there were and iran said, okay, we're done retaliating. >> they talk are really big game, but they're not willing to escalate it to the point of a major war. >> all right, thank you so much. both of you for your insight, your expertise, your reporting, all of it. i really appreciate it up next a key foreign aid package advances with help from democrats but can house speaker mike johnson hold onto his job a key republican congressmen will be here next every piece of evidence tells a story. how it really we happen with jesse l. martin, sunday, april 28 at nine on cnn did read this did i get where i'm icky his memory and thinking issues keep piling up it may be due to a buildup
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as easy as 123. >> i'm natasha bertrand at the pentagon.& this is cnn just within the last hour, the house voted in a bipartisan manner to advance a key foreign aid package. >> major step towards sending support to ukraine and israel it was a pretty extraordinary move. more democrats supported that procedural measure than the republicans did. republicans, of course, are in control of the house of representatives. it was 165 democrats compared to 151 republicans. and those democratic votes were key for speaker mike johnson, overcoming opposition from his right flank. that reliance on the other side of the aisle means johnson's future may be in jeopardy now, the third republican said, just moments ago that he supports ousting the speaker. i want to get straight to cnn's melanie zanona on capitol hill. melanie
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malibu dana. >> yeah, there you go look. speaker mike johnson's job is certainly at risk here he is on very thin ice, but he knew heading into this day that putting these foreign aid bills on the floor and needing to rely on democratic support to do so was going to spark an uproar on the right, but it is still a very rare moment here to see democrats support these procedural votes just historically, they've always been done along party lines. and in this case, more democrats actually supported this procedural vote. then republicans, i want to read you the vote breakdown because it's very interesting seeing here 165 democrats supported that procedural vote and just 151 republicans voted for it. now, johnson says he's not worried about his job being at risk here. any also delivered a very forceful defense of this foreign aid package, which will receive a final vote tomorrow. just take a lesson the legislation that we were, we would write if republicans were in charge of both the house and
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senate and the white house, this is the best possible product we can get under these circumstances to take care of these really important obligations. >> and so we look forward to the vote tomorrow. we let before to every member voting their conscience and their desire, and that is exactly how this process is supposed to work and how the house is supposed to operate now, greene has not taken steps yet to actually force a floor vote on the motion to vacate and the house has adjourned for the de so the earliest this could actually come is tomorrow, but given the fact that there are now three republicans who have signed on to this resolution. >> that means johnson is going to have to rely on democrats in some way to bail him out. now, democrats have not made any commitments so far, but they have signaled some willingness to help johnson keep the speakership& a large part of that is because of the republicans who are behind this effort tab house johnson, dana malady. >> thank you so much for that reporting, joining me here now is republican congressman dusty johnson of south dakota, came over after your vote. thank you so much for being here, sir.
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what does it tell you? that this is a procedural vote and for those watching at home, they might not know that it's this kind of boat that is almost always strictly along party lines. you heard that the speaker are you well maybe that's not a bad thing, but this is how it's supposed to work that's not how some in the right flank of your party's see it. what does it say about speaker johnson's leadership right now? >> i think it says a lot of positive things about mike johnson's leadership. if mike johnson just wanted to play the standard political games and be safe and make sure that everybody in our conference loved him. he would have played it safe he wouldn't have been willing to cobble together this bipartisan strategy. but if dan, if, if you pull the lens out, pull the camera what just happened it group of bipartisan members came together and said, let's have a conversation about israel. let's have a conversation about ukraine. let's put these things on the floor tomorrow and let's have a vote. isn't that how our system is supposed to work? burke? yes. >> but it bipartisan is a very dirty word for people like
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marjorie taylor greene and now paul gosar and congressman massie, the three of whom are saying that they support the idea of kicking him out for the high crime of bipartisanship listen, i don't have to be happy with reality, but i do have to accept the reality if you're going to govern a country, you don't get to live in fantasy land of the democrats are in control of the senate republicans are in control of the house. >> that means under our constitutional system, it is literally true that no bill can ever become law unless you've got votes both sides of the aisle. it's a pain in the butt. i get it. >> i just think it's time for the grown-ups, the big boys and big girls to figure out how to govern a country and it's gonna be messy sometimes i just want to read you a couple of quotes. >> a democratic congresswoman, grace meng tweeted last night, minority leader hakeem jeffries is essentially functioning as the real beaker already. tom massey, who i mentioned before, the us house is now officially in an alternate universe where
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the speaker shares procedural power with the democrats it is true that when republicans are not united, when we don't have our, when we don't have people backing in the speaker's play, then you do give a certain amount of power over to the minority. >> it's amazing to me. i mean, i tried to be a pretty good teammates. when you've got a quarterback in the huddle with the 11th football players as gang, it's gonna be a running play. now it may be that somebody on the offensive line disagrees with that play call, but if you want to be successful as a team, you run the dam play. not all 11 players get to call their own play and now you can try it that way, but you're going to fail. and so that's the situation we're in right now. i wish people understood that we could get more conservative policy wins, which i desire if republicans stuck together i want to play something that you told my colleague, john berman, just days after the republicans, eight republicans ousted kevin mccarthy back in
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october we don't change the foundational problems within our conference. >> it's just going to be the same stupid clown car with a different driver. those hardliners their real problem. and i don't think the payroll maybe acts are gonna be satisfied after they burned down one house. i think they're going to have an itching to go welcome down a couple more is that what we're going to see tomorrow? that guy sounded pretty smart. it was almost as though he four told that this was going to happen same same clown car, different driver. >> is that what's going to open my romania actually want to burn it down. this is what i said during the last speaker fight, that getting rid of kevin mccarthy was not going to make america stronger. it hasn't, it wasn't going to deliver more conservative victories. it hasn't. and that in fact, it was going to destabilise my party destabilized the house and heard america, and that is all come to fruition. and now we've got people who want to run that same ridiculous, stupid play
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again, they can count me as a note. >> is mike johnson going to survive, but mike johnson is going to survive out with democratic health well, i think in the end, you're going to have a lot of very thoughtful members who understand that these silly dc power games don't actually serve our national interest. we gotta get a farm bill done clearly, we need to deal with the southern border. we've got a certain number of things that we have got to get done. i think there will be a few thoughtful folks on the other side of the aisle that understand that we should not be putting chaos over this r versus d battle is your republican majority in jeopardy because of all this chaos i still think the democratic vision for this country is not selling all that well across america now, it would be better if republicans i think spoke with one voice if we were more coordinated, if we worked as a team, i'd still actually feel pretty good about republican prospects in the house. >> and i think republican takeover the senate is just about a sherlock before i let
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you go, your governor republican kristi noem of south dakota. she is talked about as a contender to be a running mate for donald trump. should she be? >> she is a heck of a leader. she knows who she is. she knows what she believes, and she doesn't cower from the challenge. i'm gonna be honest, i'm sick and tired of cowardly politicians. and so i'm kinda looking forward to somebody who's got a little swagger who understands what american strength really looks like. >> and that's her oh, kristinoem, be great. okay. thank you so much for coming in really appreciate it. thanks much and coming up, we're going to go back to manhattan to our team outside the courthouse. >> their history is being made. laura coates will join us to talk broadly about the incredible week that we saw in that courthouse. stay with us sanity needs to. save space you have a show were right and left
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don't know, maybe 20 minutes ago, some interesting developments have occurred in this questioning. yeah, of the potential alternate jurors. what's going on well this the, time to really lean in here are those who are questioning these jurors want to get to the heart of the matter. >> what will be presented, whether it's about him being unfaithful. also about what they really think of him. you have a number of jurors who were saying that they are favorable towards him, and they believe in his policy that he's been good for the country one der saying that she takes me more issue with trump's base than she does with donald trump and his criticized them as well. another person asking him asking the jurors about his rhetoric, whether that lead lead them to be more bias towards him or otherwise they seem to imply they could actually be very impartial towards him causing donald trump, of course, to lean in intently about how they viewed him. and of course, the question is about faithfulness are really key part of this, of course, because part of the crazy part of the allegations stem around an accusation that he has been in gaza balls in an
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extramarital affair with stormy daniels and you also have may or may not be crucial, the veracity of that for proving the underlying charges here, which include falsification of business records. certainly, the rhetoric of that also, there's it's a moment here where a jury is asked about, are jurors asked about how they feel about the fact that donald trump in the courtroom and the juror said a male from new york said we don't really get star struck, are really care about anything like that. he does a normal person that's the way i see it in other person talked about him as a businessman, that he is a family man as well. so a lot of how they're viewing him is really going to be intriguing for the defense and the prosecution as to who they want to ultimately sit as alternates. and remember, he's are alternates versus these primary jurors who will deliberate. but as you you know, and the way the world turns, any one of them could be called to actually deliberate and decide the fate of donald trump that's right. >> which is why picking them so
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important and the process is not over. thank you so much, laura. all week. absolutely. terrific. thanks for breaking it down up. next, the former president is forced to sit quietly, judged, criticized by fellow americans cnn's political director, david chalian, join us for a look at the wild political moment that we're in okay everyone, our mission is to provide complete balanced nutrition. >> or strength and energy ensure with 27 vitamins minerals nutrients for immune health, and ensure complete with 30 grams of protein c idp disrupts the idp derails. >> let's be honest sucks but living with cdp doesn't have to. >> when you sign up at shining through cid p.com, you'll find
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180501, 3636 called now, i'm zachary cohen in washington this is cnn well, what a week, who better to talk about all of it, put it in context than our very own political director, david chalian. >> hello, hello. so obviously it's unprecedented that you have a president to presidential candidates sitting in a courtroom waiting to see who was going to decide his
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fate. but the other part of this is that it's donald trump donald trump is very much in a bubble of his own making. and it's not just because he's a former president, it's because he's a wealthy guy mar-a-lago, who lives in his areas where he has people who are not necessarily critical of him. let's say it that way. and that's not what he's enduring in gaza it's so true, dana, it's gotta be. >> so just plainly uncomfortable for him. i know he complained that the room is freezing and that's uncomfortable. the judge said today they're working on the temperature courtroom, but exactly to your point. i mean any president or former president lives in a bubble. >> that is true. but not every president has also been a ceo of a company in a billionaire living high in a new york city skyscraper for most of their lives on the top, floor, it's like he has lived such a life
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in a bubble for so long. and to deal with this reality of people who are expressing in some parts very unfavorable opinions about him to his face, away from him to his face as he's watching and looking at them intently. let me read it a couple of these quotes i don't like his persona. he just seems very selfish and self-serving by the way, this person is now juror number 11 there had been behaviors that i haven't approved or president trump towards females. sometimes the way he may carry himself and public leaves something to be desired. now, it's not as if he doesn't here for this stuff when he watches television and he's a vigorous, voracious consumer of media, but it is different when in-person. but beyond that, david talk about the moment that we're in in political history yeah. >> so when you look at, as you said, an unprecedented factor right now, we've never had a former president sitting as a
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defendant in a criminal trial. he's also the republican nominee. and this general election is well underway at this point. remember, we are we're in april 2 hundred days and people started voting in september. i mean, we are not that far away. the conventions are right upon us, whether or not joe biden and donald him debate these are all imminent things now, and he, for the next maybe six weeks is sitting on trial every day. and what is amazing. >> we have no idea you and i have covered so many of these. >> what the impact of this will be. we just don't know what it will be we know that people are paying attention. we know that people will have opinions about this and that it may indeed impact voters. >> but we don't know how yet. and so having this huge x-factor when our life is constantly trying to figure out what are all the factors and how do they play in an election is just also an unprecedented and you know, who doesn't know the biden campaign? correct. >> which is one of the many
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reasons that they're staying a little bit. well, a lot away from this. the other of course, is they don't want to give any more fodder to donald trump. false spotter that biden is somehow involved in this or any of the other trials. >> and think about, in addition of donald trump and the campaign, just think about what these jurors are experiencing. americans who have never been in this position before. these 12 that will sit there. no other american has a comparable experience so imagine what it is for them as well. >> yeah, and it is you're basic duty and we should all as americans thank them, the people who eventually get seated. yeah. and thank you. >> thank you. okay. >> thank you so much for being here. please tune in on sunday to state of the union in south dakota, governor kristi noem will be among my guess. i hope to see you at 9:00 a.m. eastern right here on cnn. thanks for joining inside politics cnn newsroom central starts after a quick break john for news about
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