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things with kate bolduan streaming week days excluded resolutely, oma victims call now 30 billion in trust money has been set aside. you may be entitled to a portion of that money all when 8085920400. >> that's when 8085920400 these cnn's breaking news we're following breaking news or team outside of a manhattan courthouse with former president donald trump's hush money trial is happening. just witnessed a disturbing scene a man set himself on fire near the location where they were going live it happened just moments after the court and paneled the full 12 member jury. >> a historic moment. >> it was let's get right down to cnn's laura coates and laura, you were standing there interviewing a guest when this all happened and i know this was deeply jarring & affecting to watch this happen walk us

through what you saw happen outside the courthouse while we were standing, as you know, just outside of the manhattan courtroom when history had just been made by a fully empaneled jury. and we thought we were reporting on that history instead life would change the course of events here today when a group of people who were standing near an area that once had a trump flag that was waving in the wind in the courtyard area. and group of people began to scream our attention was turned towards that area as onlookers saw some sort of pamphlets go up in the air immediately over the course of what has come to describe modern american history. >> we had first thought it was an active shooter to look to the area where people were running away from at that point, i saw a man lift his arm and appeared to put something on his body followed by flames that engulfed his entire person not only lit his body into flames, but the area around him. people were screaming around the area in an immediate

smell came around from not only some form of a chemical accelerant, but also from the sent of burning flesh now, we had people in this area law enforcement is all around, including mayor adams at one point on monday, you'd come by to witness the presence of police. remember, it american president was sitting inside of this courthouse secret service law enforcement detail in the heart of manhattan, an area where law enforcement as well-known to be. it's in front of an active courthouse. they all ran. you saw many officers who were taking off their coats trying to stop the flames from he has been taken away on a gurney. now we see a number of people in the area trying to pick up pamphlets all across the park around us. police officers, law enforcement detail. we're trying to get a sense of what was on those pamphlets as well. and we'll bring you the latest reporting as soon as we have it. >> laura coates for us, they're outside the courthouse in manhattan. lauren, thank you so much. and just to remind everybody kind of where we sit right now, we have this fully

empaneled jury history has been made. the first ever former president to face criminal trial. it is moving ahead. we now have an eye toward me. monday where the judge is expecting to begin opening arguments. >> now, as that was happening, we were talking about that news. >> laura was talking about that news. that is when this person appear to set themselves on fire just outside the courthouse, will of course, continue to monitor that news and bring you the latest details as we get them. but we do want to focus on what was happening in cord we have with us cnn legal correspondent chiefly will correspondent paul read, also cnn legal analyst and former federal prosecutor, jennifer rodgers, apollo. first to you, we are anticipating the sandoval hearing this afternoon and effectively, this is going to detail what aspects of donald trump's legal history could be entered into this case? >> yeah, this could be pretty fiery given the circumstances. here are the increasing tensions between prosecutors and defense attorneys and the reason they're having this

hearing is because trump and his team, they are seriously considering having him testify in this case. that is surprising to many people because most experts would agree that is probably not a good idea based on his previous appearances in other civil cases and how he's conducted himself so far. but look, his defense attorneys and they believe that he could handle himself and he and hope hopefully help his case. so during this hearing, they're going to go through what would be inbounds for prosecutors to cross-examine him about if he takes the stand. so this is going to be really interesting to watch it. >> sure is. >> let's also go out to jennifer now and jennifer now that we have all of these jurors that have been empaneled for this historic jury. we've learned that during this process, several prospective juror for his got emotional during their questioning is that unusual for jury selection? does it speak at all to the unique and high-profile nature of this case and the pressures that exist around it

i think it absolutely does. it is not normal for jurors to get emotional sometimes prospective jurors get annoyed, right? >> that they're going to have to sit and not go to work or do whatever they normally do. but i think it's just shows the pressure that they will be under the safety concerns they may have. >> the fact that for the rest of their lives, they will be public persona's at least even if people don't know their names, right, they will have participated in a historic event and then not to mention the pressure of deciding the first criminal case ever against a former president. so i think that it's not surprising that people are concerned about serving emotional about concerns are conserving anxious about serving, and all of those things. and i think we may continue to see that i'm afraid we haven't seen the last of a juror saying, i'm not sure i can do this that may happen even after the trial starts, which is why it's a good thing that the judge and panel six alternates jennifer i'm curious about the way you mentioned security concerns and

i'm curious about the way what we watched unfold outside of the courthouse could impact the proceedings in the sense that there may be an argument to potentially change venue or to further secure the court room itself any indication as to how that ugly incident might change the way that this is this case proceeds well, i think it depends what we learned boris. >> i mean, if if you're assuming that the person who set themselves on fire was a rabid trump supporter and that it was some sort of protests against the trial and then take the logical leap that someone who feels that way may also try to harm jurors, then sure. i can see a juror saying, wow, people feel so strongly about this. i'm concerned about it, but we don't know that yet there is a ton of security around the courthouse as it is actually sits in the middle of

a bunch of law enforcement headquarters and offices anyway. and then of course for the child securities, even further beefed up. so i think and hope that the jurors should not take anything away from it. certainly at this point. and i'm sure that the court staff will do whatever they feel needs to be done. if there does need to be an increase paula, i want to come back to you as we await the next step in all of this, which is this hearing where they're going to go through trump's criminal history and decide what they can talk about if he decides to testify when you're talking to trump allies and if you're his defense team, what are they hoping to get out of this? >> i know that there is the thought that that he actually may well testify. >> yeah. they believe that he has learned lessons. >> he's been through multiple civil trials just in the past here, about about a block away from where they are now, they believed that he saw what worked there. he saw it, didn't work for him there. and that he would be prepared to take the stand in a way that would be constructive for his case. now, we'll see how that

goes. in reality. but of course, they would hope that prosecutors would not be able to bring in most of the largely civil history that he has or any allegations of criminal conduct because of course, this is his first criminal trial. he's never been convicted criminally. be has had a lot of civil civil litigation gen. in his past, i'm sure they want to bring in as little as possible we want to bring in cnn's kara scannell to the conversation she's outside the courthouse for. >> she's been in the courtroom throughout the day. kara, what can you tell us about exactly what's going to happen when we get back? from this break for lunch well, now that these seated this full jury and all six alternates, the judge has sent them home and told them all to come back monday morning where he expects they will be opening statements this afternoon when this when this interview gets underway or excuse me, when the hearing gets underway? >> and they'll discuss the sandoval issue. that is how

much of trump's pass legal issues they can bring up will be debated between the attorneys and prosecutors want to bring up several recent verdicts that's the e jean carroll verdicts were trump was found to have sexually abused her into fainter. also, the civil fraud judgment, nearly half 1 billion for the judge found that trump had engaged in persistent and repeated fraud and did not find his testimony on the stand to be credible. so these are all issues prosecutors think that the jury should be able to hear donald trump challenged on if he does take the stand at his lawyers are expected to oppose this. we have not heard their arguments yet. they have not filed held any public papers on it, but this will all play out shortly after the lunch break this afternoon. and the judge is expected to make a decision, if not today, certainly before donald trump testifies and likely before opening statements because it may shape some of the things that the lawyers will say in those opening statements. but this will take place this afternoon now that they've got the biggest thing done that they

needed to do, and that was just select the full jury, 12 jurors, six alternates. now in place for this trial to get underway for us i'm kara scannell, paula reid, jennifer rodgers. thank you all so much. we're going to continue to follow all the breaking news into cnn, a full jury is seated now for the historic trial against donald trump, and we're expecting an update from the nypd within the hour about that incident that took place outside of court? stay with us. we'll be right back there's new ally in the fight against climate change. >> this is a car business blue carbon week me to protect nature will do the rest corbin plus cnn fill sunday at nine okay. >> everyone, our mission is to provide complete balanced nutrition or strength and energy ensure with 27 vitamins and minerals, nutrients for immune health and ensure complete with 30 grams of protein doctors recommend coli stool softener, four gentle

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pennsylvania. and this is cnn there is great concern for what could happen next in the middle east after the latest salvo between israel and iran was officials say israel carried out a military strike iran overnight, explosions were reported near a major iranian military airbase. >> now ron claims it shot down three drones, satellite images obtained exclusively by cnn show no oh extensive damage at the site. a us official says that washington was given a heads-up, but did not participate in the attacks the white house says the focus is now on de-escalation to avoid a broader war in the region cnn's nic robertson joins us now from tel aviv. so nick, where do things stand after this? >> a retaliatory strike board? >> i said really seems to win a situation of ambiguity, strategic ambiguity versus escalation. why do i say that? i think partly the language that we've heard from iranian officials, lot exculpatory

language. in fact, the language they're using to tell the public about what's happened that they saw objects at their air defense system, shot at& that they would investigate it. and around that's the language for nothing to see here. there were protests on the street in tehran, but that is used the usual thing that the government can organize certainly don't get protests anterior israel protests like that spontaneously erupting in tehran. so that seems to be the strength of it. and as well a couple of hours after the strikes were reported, i spoke to a regional intelligence source and it's well-placed and he told me that he did not expect an iranian retaliation. and i think we're also getting ambiguity here on the israeli sayyed, the israeli government has not come out and made a statement about this. all we've seen as something of a social media spat between the hard right, one of the hard-right members of prime minister netanyahu's cabinet it's my ben-gvir saying lame, one of

the opposition senior opposition figures, yair lapid said that that was actually damaging to israel's security interests. and that it would be heard all the way from tehran to washington but neither of them actually said that israel had perpetrated a strike on iran. certainly it shows that israel can reach right to where iran s for harm in the city of isfahan has a strategic nuclear facility where it enriches uranium enriched uranium way above previously agreed international thresholds dangerously close. some people say to making a weapon. so there is a message in the strike, but the fact that neither sayyed is beginning this up, israel's quiets, the iranians are essentially saying something happened, but let's move on it doesn't take away from the fact that the tensions exist between israel and iran. it does seem to say that direct state-to-state confrontation is not in play. that is a dangerous moment because the

red lines at the two countries understood twin each other. those are blurred so if we're not closer to regional escalation, certainly the cost of it became a lot clearer over the past week absolutely. >> nic robertson, force in jerusalem. thanks so much for that reporting. and i want to bring in that sandra in national security analysts, former deputy director of national intelligence, beth, we're glad you're here with us. listening to nick's reporting there. i think so many people around the world are wondering, what does this mean now, where are how higher the tensions and what's the risk of escalation? what's your assessment i think if we pull back a little bit and say, where are we right now in terms of this 30,000 foot level in the past few weeks beaks we've seen this context changed completely all these red lines that nick just brought up. >> they've been broken. the norms of behavior between israel and iran have now

changed. and it means that iran is willing to strike directly and massively at israel and israel's response was measured, but they made a point. and that means that we're at a new level at this new normal that we've seen in taiwan and other places that we're going to have to deal with. and then problem is, is that the underlying context of this is all those things where we're worried about before a war in the north with hezbollah, this shadow war that, started all this off on april 1st. all those things still exist and will continue. but now it's going to continue in this context of a heightened threat environment and risk environment. so it's not good. >> us officials have said a lot by not saying much like secretary of state antony blinken kept his remarks on this short essentially saying israel told the us, but the us wasn't involved. the us didn't give the green light, so to speak what is the us position now?

>> complicated i mean, you would not want to be a policymaker right now at the white house or the state department because you're trying to juggle all these things like, here's more context. >> the hostage negotiations hamas has rejected them. >> they are going nowhere there is no peace agreement deal going on with hezbollah on wednesday 14, israeli soldiers, six seriously injured by drone and missile strikes from his bullet into iran. i mean, like all of this, and then they're trying to thread the needle to a two-state solution by all this stuff. and none of the things at the beginning of that process are going well oh crisis averted but all the problems underlying problems are still, here, are still there. >> and israel has been facing mounting criticism from the world, from one of their most important ally as the united states, over their prosecution of the war in gaza. and yet over the last week, beth, we saw its allies come to its

defense. we saw the western world and even arab nations come to its defense and also rally around it more sanctions on iran if you're israel and your, the israeli government, where do you go from here now that you've gotten to that point? and what does it mean? maybe for gaza, possible invasion in rafah? >> well secretary blinken, also, as you mentioned earlier, his statement today included we still do not support this invasion of rafah, but in israel, to brigades of reservists have been called up. and we'll start showing up in the next few weeks. so they are going to do the rafah operation i do think that this sets up israel and the reason that they were so restrained is that they realize that they're actually in a public relations winning position, right now but i believe it's temporary because all of the things that need to be dealt with getting rid of

hamas, what's on their plan is still on the table. >> you mentioned the inception of a plan to move toward your state solution, not going great. there's speculation out there that the white house is going to try to tie something that you noted that the assistance from some of the regional players that israel got over the weekend, specifically recognition by saudi arabia, correct. and a closer relationship with riyadh between riyad and israel, that they would dangle that in front of netanyahu and exchange for some kind of movement toward a two-state solution, right? >> is that a big enough karatay, big enough incentive for him to shift his position i don't think so yet. >> i think that the number one objective still has to be accomplished for them, which is making sure that hamas is military organization in gaza is wiped out. so that means a lot of carnage to come. so

we're still a ways off and we don't have a ceasefire in order to get the aid in order to get to a place where we can have everybody talking. so while it's not closed off it's not right now. and i think we can kind of overdo the idea that saudi arabia and uae provided some radar information as being like, oh, they're all in for israel still limitations because they have their own interests to look out for, right? exactly. and their own populations. and they're worried about those things. so with the gaza the carnage still to come more, still to come, it's, it's, we're not over that hump yet where we can get to that place that san are thanks so much for seven by three. >> appreciate. thank you. >> up next, we're going to take you back to new york city. were a full jury has been seated in the trump trial. >> we'll be right back.

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president trump and his criminal history. and what if he takes the stand, he can be asked about cnn's laura coates is outside the new york courthouse okay. >> laura, we now look ahead to this afternoon& for monday when we're we're expecting opening arguments i mean, history is being made as you know, this is a former president united states on trial criminally about 15 floors above us right here outside of a manhattan courtroom there are 18 jurors who will be impacted, and panel that includes six alternates. >> and of course, the 12 jurors who were already 2nd to be the ones to deliberate now, those alternative would be very important still, because those alternatives will likely or might be high opportunity to actually deliberate in full. i want to get now to kara scannell, who has been in and out of the courtroom all day today on this wealth frankly, a surreal de, but one of the surreal aspects of this includes an american president on trial, and he has been closely watching all the taking place. >> yeah, he has been we saw yesterday. he was very engaged

in jury selection in the question and the answers today, he was he was slipping through papers on the desk keep. but then when his lawyer for started questioning the jurors and asking about their views of donald trump. he was very engaged. again, he had turned his chair again. he was craning his neck. he was looking to the look at the jurors as they were speaking and giving their opinions of him. there we're not as many people today in the jury box for the alternatives that had as strong of opinions as we heard in the prior days of the questioning, but they did challenge a few on their social media post going back several years but a lot of the jurors in the wells said that they either had neutral views of him or they didn't essentially didn't have any real strong views. and so this alternate process actually went pretty quickly once they got to the point where they had gone through all of the vor, deer and all of the questioning of 20 two jurors that were in the box, but he was definitely engaged. he was looking at them all as they were responding to

these questions to try to take the temperature, what they felt about what struck me as compared to what happened in the initial 12 voir dire process trying to determine who could be impartial or not. remember coming into all this. i don't trump has sat through his legal counsel. he does not feel he could get a fair or impartial full jury here. he thought that the voting practices of this overwhelmingly so-called blue city would not inert his benefit and that would be a detriment to him. but we're seeing in the process over the course of the morning, there were a number of at least the alternate jury pool, a part of the overall part, who spoke about their affinity for lack of a better word for his policies were not going to be pressured into not liking him. and even when asked about how they viewed the potential for being unfaithful and his marriage been interesting views and i think trump was leaning into yeah, i mean, the jury pool has been very diverse in terms of their views. it is not as trump had built it to be that it would be all of these democrats and all of these people but dislike him in there are a number of people in finance and their opinions toward trump tended to veer

more favorable. they appreciated his his background as a businessman. a lot of them so that they agreed with some of his policies, not maybe all of them, but wonder potential juror today had said that she liked his tax policies. so there was a more balanced view that he might have thought going going into this number of jurors had already the art of the deal. his book that he wrote many years ago it wasn't a knee-jerk reaction across the board for a number of jurors, listen to both npv. one juror said he listened to npr and also fox news, and he kind of joked that there was a remarkable difference in the viewpoints of those programs. but people seem to have i'll kind of a more global sense of who he is. one person was trying to dissect him is he's a person. he's a politician. he's a businessman and my views for each of those categories might be slightly different. so people were it seemed trying to give honest answers about their viewpoints of him and that really showed that people did not just have

one solid view of him. it was a more nuanced view. again probably for most of the jury. >> now, if you are in the appellate world trying to look at this and put possibly appeal the process specs of whether there's an impartial jury or not go through been struck for cause or otherwise remember, at the very beginning of this, the judge that he would distinguish those who said they could not be in part partial and a different category without asking follow-up questions compared to those who explained later in the wider your process, those now in florida seemingly impartial jurors might be problematic or an appeal you're trump. let's look ahead to the opening statements here, but that's a very important point now that you've got from the spectrum of jurors on this panel. if you're the prosecutor if you're the defense attorney, you're going to now try to tailor your presentation of the evidence was for the audience as before you today, and that includes those who might be leaning in favor we're i'm trump and those who might be leaning away. but all ultimately impartial right? i mean, that's the that's what all the juror said. they would be able to look at this based on the evidence in the court room and put aside anything

that they may have heard or read because the judges even said to them, and the prosecutors and the defense, we don't expect you to not have ever heard of this case they said we don't and expect you to be living under a rock, but they just want to get the point to the jurors and the jurors individually all and we're asked the question of, could you put all that aside and just base your decision? vision on what you hear in this courtroom and they also spent a lot of time talking about witness credibility. and if someone has the change their story, if they had one story at one point and then now we're saying something different could you evaluate that or would you have a preconceived bias that the person must be a liar or for that they must have changed their story for some other reason and they spent a lot of time both sides. i'm trying to understand for the prosecution, could you understand that someone could change their mind? and for defense and and would you keep an open mind if this could be corroborated by documents, because a big part of this case is documents falsification of documents. there's chest invoices, general ledgers from the company all of this is going to

be a big piece of the evidence in trump's lawyers trying to make the jurors of ab if someone changes their mind, there's a reason and you shouldn't believe them. so they were really testing the jurors and their responses to this to see if they could keep an open mind. i mean, it was a funny moment. one of the perspective jurors had said he in his spare time, he tries to avoid reading documents and so the prosecutor said there's a lot of documents in this case but he joked he just met that even like to do it on the weekends. >> remember, morris, jessica, we're talking about 34 felony counts of falsifying business records. you'd better believe documents are gonna be a big part of this and expect on presumably monday that we believe will happen for the oral are the opening statements in this case that on monday, you're going to have the defense team wanting to go immediately at the credibility of witnesses whose names may be familiar to the american audience. stormy daniels, david, michael cohen meanwhile, you're going to want to have the prosecution focusing on the

underlying charges. and of course dot to prove their case. this is history in the making and monday might be opening statements in the first ever criminal trial, four former president of the united states of america. >> yeah, huge moment. not just in american history, but also for the 2024 presidential campaign. laura coates kerosene canal outside the courthouse in manhattan. thank you so much. >> next, setting up for a showdown in congress. will republican mike johnson lose his speakership or will far-right members of his party lose their own power we're going to ask a house republican that very question. and just moment every piece the evidence tells a story how it really happened with jesse l. martin, sunday, april 28 at nine on cnn i consumer cellular, you get the same exact coverage as the largest carriers for up to half

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time. >> i just want to start first by saying democrats did something pretty rare and using their votes to help get this to the floor. yet it seems it's ultimately going to pass with pretty wide bipartisan support. port. what does this say about the situation and the current state of the house i think it shows that obviously it's a house that's divided, but that we have the ability as democrats and public ins to come together for the united states of america and our allies. >> i think today was a perfect showing of democracy and how again, democrats and republicans from all corners so this country could come together to do what's right. and i praise speaker johnson, not because he's from my party, but because he's doing the right thing at the right time for for what's important to not only this nation, but again, but for our allies. >> and they end some people in your party want to punish him for that. and i want to get that do that in one second, but before we get there, ukraine aid was a major hang-up for something in your party, your republican colleague, michael

mccaul, who chairs the foreign affairs committee earlier this month, said that russian propaganda has quote, infected a good chunk of my party's base again, some of them very reticent to give ukraine any aid. do you agree with that russian propaganda has infected a good chunk of the gop base i, don't know if it's propaganda or if it's the fact that there are members of his party that want to see where that money is going they want to make sure that there's checks and balances for billions upon billions it's of dollars that we're sending over to ukraine. the threat is real and russia is a threat not only to ukraine, but to the united states of america and democracy. and i think that what we saw just a week ago today with regards to iran attacking israel we need to make sure that we show the strength of the united states of america. and this package tomorrow, these bills will do just that will support our allies will show that we are standing up for democracy and we're not going to be in the shadows of waiting thing to

watch what happens. >> but there is oversight money in that aid package. so there is going to be oversight where to determine where that money goes so why do you think there's a hang up? for number of your colleagues on aid to ukraine well, some of the hang-up has been that before we send more money to ukraine, that we should be securing our border and i agree we need to secure our border and that's one of the reasons as to why back in may, house republicans sent the secure the border act, hr two over to the senate, where it collected dust and quite frankly, that should have been the starting point, that should have been the ability for democrats and republicans to come together and begin to negotiate on how we secure our border. the democrats in the senate didn't do that. >> what they did was they put together this magical bipartisan. >> well, it was negotiated by republic james lankford, so it wasn't democrats only. it was also independent. kyrsten sinema and christmas josephine, just my cousin, just because it was just because it was negotiated by a republican doesn't i mean, that it was

right. i mean, i have plenty of republicans that i serve in the house with that, i don't agree with everything that they do either. and i think that parts of that that bill had had good good stuff in it, but there was some of it that we just could not i don't think we looked at it as a solution, but more of a surrender where we should have started was her2. if the senate was truly looking to secure our border but are and make changes along, our southern border than it should've started with hr to, but it did it. >> okay. let's put that to the side because right now immigration is on any legislation is on ice because it's just not going anywhere on capitol hill. this is what you guys are voting on tomorrow. and speaker johnson, there are now three republic bookings who signed on to this effort to oust him over bringing this, these foreign aid bills to the floor. >> but there's just three of them in a conference of 218. >> is the republican party in the house living under the tyranny of the minority here i think that there are certain members of our conference that are making decisions that for

some of them are personal. i think that we are showing that tomorrow r0 this is about putting america first. it's about putting democracy first. i think they need to put their personal concerns aside and do what's right for the american people. and i've said it's this morning and i set it to speaker johnson last night and reminded him again this afternoon, the world is watching and these days that we've had started thing with iran attacking israel. and of course october 7, now leading to us voting on these packages, the world is watching. this is going to be in history books and i think that history is going to look very kindly upon those members of this body as well as our speaker who stepped up and did the right thing at the right time. >> in quickly before i let you go, you have said that you would be in favor of consequences, repercussions for mike johnson's detractors, those specifically on the rules committee who multiple times have blocked rules supported by the speaker who are threatening the others who are maybe

threatening to oust him what would you like to see in that regard i think there just needs to be repercussions we cannot have or allow this conference and especially in a committee like rules where historically they tell us that the rules committee does what the what the conference asieh and especially what the speaker asked. >> that's not happening and our conference is it are the ones that's losing. >> so we need to make sure that we, that there are repercussions for those who detract from the best wishes and the thoughts and the concerns of our conference i think that's fair. >> yeah. congressman anthony d'esposito, we really do appreciate your time. thanks so much thank you much more to come on. >> our breaking news today. a full jury seated in the historic criminal hush wanting trial, donald trump, we're going to talk about the political fallout of that. that's this is a travel show visit my fans you can't buy that kind of propaganda

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political events in a week and let as i just said, with this current schedule on the court's schedule, he is able to campaign for three days out of the seven day week. but of course it's a good message for donald trump to be saying, look, i'm being forced to be taken off the campaign, joe, i'm stuck in this courtroom and that's why you're hearing him say this over and over again. basically, every time he goes to the cameras in and out of the courtroom that he is stuck here, but as i will say, this week, we do not see him hold a campaign event on wednesday, who will be going to north carolina tomorrow. but as of now for my a conversations with the trump campaign, he's not expected to travel next week at all. and so a lot of this really comes down to messaging boras. >> the some of the details in this case just by the nature of it, this alleged affair with adult film star, the hush money that he apparently siphod caaign feel out these hael details coming to light ght noin the middle of this campaign well, i'll say this. this is actually one of the cases that donald trump's attorneys believe is the

weakest of the four criminal indictments that he is facing. however, they also recognize that there are concerns about this being a jury, having the jury before manhattan, a place that overwhelmingly voted for joe biden in 2020. but as you mentioned, the other part of this is that it's very personal to donald trump. there's gonna be a lot of embarrassing salacious details that come out of this trial. i mean, it's about him paying money to a porn star. so that is something he's going to have to grapple with. and that's where a lot of this concern comes from in your point about some of the witnesses who are expected to testify, people like michael cohen, stormy daniels, the alleged adult film star at the center of all of this they could have some pretty damaging things to say while on the stand. that's also why we heard donald trump this morning railing against the gag order. one of the things that gag order prevents him from talking about or criticizing is attacking witnesses and that's a lot of where this frustration is coming from on donald trump's sayyed specifically. yeah. and the judge's family as well as you were speaking,

we just got an update on social media is something that the former president posted. >> he writes, quote, judge merchan is railroading me at breakneck speed in order to completely satisfy his friends. additionally, he has gagne so that i cannot talk about the most important of topics including is totally disqualifying conflict of interest and taking away my constitutional right of free speech. this is something that trump posted on truth, social, ironic, given that he is actually saying these things out loud, he said these things in front of cameras. he's not actually prevented in the gag order from speaking about the judge judge, in the case how does the trump campaign feel about him testing the waters of these gag orders and saying things that potentially could hamper him in court. >> i mean, it's a very fine line to walk and it's something that donald trump, as i mentioned, is very frustrated about when he was speaking about the gag order this morning, you could tell he was clearly get very angry while talking about it, but you're

completely right it is ironic with him saying this. and even when he said at this morning, he's saying i can't speak to the media or speak to reporters while he was speaking to reporters, there's very i mean, for a gag order, this is actually pretty lenient. of course, there are areas he's not able to talk about. you mentioned prosecutors and their staff that does not include manhattan district attorney alvin bragg. he's not allowed to talk about their families, but he can talk about the judge. you obviously just criticize the judge in that pose and he can't talk about potential witnesses and jurors. but apart from that, donald trump is able to speak about these things. and so from what i'm hearing from my conversations with trump's team, they are trying to know to not have him i'm continue to rail against anything that could violate the gag order, but he has a lot of room there. >> it'll be interesting to see how the prosecution now moves forward with sharing a witness list with the defense, something that they didn't want to do, in part because they feared that trump might post something like this alayna treene. thanks so much for the updates they would see on a new central were back in just a few

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