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from a couple here, possibly to ten, maybe 20 over by the tree line over there possibly coming in this direction this is already too close if they can dodge, it would all be over a torchlight used to always be enough. or they would bang pots and pans now, nobody wants to risk it's going soft. so they reach straight from gunpowder usually the elephants just run button, but sometimes they charge and it's us. who after run nick paton walsh. >> says, is full report elephants versus menn errors this sunday night. on the whole story at 8:00 p.m. eastern pacific right here on cnn. >> sure. to not to miss that on monday, tune it to cnn for
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opening statements that trump and the trump hush money criminal trial. i'll be at the courthouse and 9:00 a.m. with the team and my colleagues proceedings begin at 9:30. the news continues. the source starts now, i have a great weekend straight from the source tonight, full steam ahead. the states now set for opening statements the store at first criminal trial of donald trump with a full jury is seated in just four days for the great dismay of the criminal defendant, who openly wants it all to just slow down. i'll see you in a more ranks for trump, new york's attorney general now asking the judge to throw out the hundred and $75 million bond, trump posted at his civil fraud case. could the former president since assets now be at risk again, that chord here and get this set for monday morning. while trump is in criminal court, just down the street. and the republican house speaker in even more jeopardy tonight as a third number of mike johnson's conference signs on to the effort to oust him, meaning he could need democrats to step in and save his job. i'm john king
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in for kaitlan collins. >> this is the source donald trump's first criminal we'll trial is about to get real much more intense, but no opening statements now set for monday. at the heart of it, a hush money payment to a former porn star just before the 2016 election that trump in the white house phase one. now in the history books 12, jurors, six alternates are in place. that full jury empaneled after a four-day process that yeah. yes. had a few bumps in the road, but overall, things did move quickly. something the former president does not sound very happy about trials. >> jackson which is lovely for a lot of people. the judge wants to go as fast as possible. reasons not for my eraser and this is really a concerted which are simply everything urine so which by numerous judges democrat judge
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juan merchan on does seem to want to move things along, but that's how it works. there is no proof, zero proof of a witch-hunt. day for also included a heated debate over what the former president could be asked about if he chooses to testify, how much, for example his past legal issues can be brought up during cross-examination, like the e jean carroll case, his civil fraud verdict, trump's lawyers objecting to all of it. the judge said he'd rule on that by monday yes sir. yes. but testifying would be extremely risky for the former president. so we'll see, we'll see in the days ahead if that actually happens, the judge also gave the trump defense team a stern warning today. stop filing motions. he said to try to re-litigate decision's already made, the judge saying, quote, that has to end. except my rulings. let's get straight to my legal sources tonight with me. just talk this over criminal defense attorneys. cnn legal analyst joey jackson from
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a federal prosecutor, david kelly, who served as the us attorney for the southern district of new york in two veteran new york rucker attorneys for not us to beall, author i dala. let's get straight to the question. gioia, monday, it starts this process was important and we'll talk a little bit more about the jury selection process and what we learn. but on monday, it's starts. so what is happening right now? do you see each side spends the weekend thing, first impression matter. you want to win the jury on day one without question, john, and it doesn't start this week began certainly it started months ago, right? >> because monday is about your narrative. and so i think we know what the narrative of the prosecution will be. we've heard it. >> it's been laid out in the statement of facts that the prosecutor has already indicated. i expect monday for them to go at it and really lay out to the jury what is their theory to talk to them about what the scheme was all about? i talked to them about the players involved in the scheme to talk to them about the evidence they have to substantiate it. and i also, john do believe that they're going to talk about the issue of corroboration. we know they'll go after tax. michael cohen and he's alive. he's a perjury that won't happen to
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monday, but i think through their testimony in jury selection, they've conditioned the jury to having unsaved three witnesses. and i think they'll talk about don't only rely upon our witnesses, rely upon the text messages, the emails, what the last point and that is a defense. would be curious to me is to know how much they're going to commit. will we see a defense or will we say it's not about donald trump? keep an open mind. they have to establish it to reasonable doubt this has nothing to do with politics. i want to know whether they lay out a defense that is the defense team or whether they keep it generic and general. >> well, let's break it down more sharply. let's start with the prosecution, your prosecutor? no prosecutor has done what's going to happen monday morning. prosecutors stand up and ask the jury to convict a former president of the united states. how important is to come out of the box? fox and frame the case. >> very important. i mean, there's the opportunity for the prosecutors to kinda laid out lay out a roadmap for the case. and part of this case really is not so challenging in the sense that you have to prove the falsified records and so forth. you have to prove the
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criminal intent of the the defendant. but i think most important you have to prove the so what that's not a legal requirements really a factual requirement. why should we care? why is it such a big deal? so that's the one that i think that's one of the biggest hurdles here. second thing is i go into the opening statement, what i'm gonna do is someone you said, which is two, i want to bait thin and a little bit get him to say more than he needs to say because defendants don't have to say much of anything the burden's not on them, but you want them to try to commit to something that you were pretty sure he can prevent them from accomplishing at the end of the trial. >> and so what about the defense perspective? >> i'm going to stand right up by a laser. jonah, the jury, you know what the evidence didn't show the evidence going to show that stormy daniels try to shake down blackmail donald trump. you the evidence going to show she's the criminal and the courtroom. she's the one who shook them. oh, and just in case you want to know the other criminals in the courtroom. all the main witnesses. here's the guy who did time a gel will
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hear about oldest ville willy about where he slept and what the meals that he eight when he was a gym as he was in jail that's who they want you to rely upon to put the president of the united states in jail and they're going to fail miserably. >> how much does this matter? the tension we've seen between the judge and the defense team. it's in the pretrial phase. it's in the jury selection phase. but if it carries over into the trial, it can get interesting. this is judgment for sean today, talking about you. he keeps issuing rulings and the trump team essentially moves the semicolon around, it appeals again, and they filed again and they challenge it again, the judge saying that has to end. there comes a point where you accept my rulings. i've entertained your motions. i've entertained your arguments and good faith at some point, you need to accept my emotions. trump was glaring at the judges that went through does that matter does it matter? >> i mean, it doesn't matter. you don't want to be in the courtroom and the jury getting the impression that the judges against you. so people have to be careful, you don't want to be angering the judge, but on the other hand, you can't stop people from doing their job. you can't stop people from filing motions. they have to make a record. they may have to make an appeal here. so they're
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just stealing their job. >> but we heard his one word answer yes. when the former president was asked to testify, we've had this conversation before, but if he testifies now, we still the judge still has to make his decision on the so-called sandoval rule. what can the prosecution bring it cross-examination, but but the among the potential things, the e jean carroll case, a lawsuit that was ruled frivolous. the trump brought against hillary clinton but $450 million civil fraud judgment october 23, gag order violation of that case so you don't think he's ever going to get on the stand, right? now, but let me just say it from a legal perspective because it's very timely and it is a little personal any minute, we're expecting the new york state court of appeals to hand down a ruling in the case of people's state of new york versus havi one feinstein, which by firm tried and argued. and that it's on sandoval. it's on that exact issue. and that court of appeals ruling is going to tell everyone in the state what you how much you can put in and what you cannot put in. >> so tuesday is actually a possibility when that ruling could come down and it could
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cause because this trial judge to adjust his ruling depending on what the highest court in the state said. but i think there's a distinction author from the excellent representation that you provided for him and i think that there without question, known author for a long time except penal lawyer. the reality though is that in your case, there were just so much that was lead in with respect to prior bad acts of sexual conduct when the case was about sexual conduct here, they're going after trump yes. on a fraud issues as it relates to business records. but there's so much more the violation of orders, sir. you know what orders are and you continue to violate them. why isn't that fair game issues relating to defamation and issues related to e. jean carroll. so i think there's a distinction between the numerous sexual allegations lead in in your case and what could be let in in this and we have seen including in the courtroom today, when e. jean carroll came up, trump is shaking his head. you saw the energy, but in the public sphere, we've seen even worse so we've seen the language, we've seen just the caustic things, the hostel, the horrible things he says about her. would that be a gift to
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prosecutors if he actually took the stand? yeah. look, i think we can all focus on cross-examination what they live and what they don't let in. but i think from prosecutors can put take that all the way. i don't even really care what they let me cross-examined about because it's given his history and what he's done before. i don't know that he can stand up and even on direct appear to be credible in the face of all the other evidence. >> and yet, i've been saying this all week. i'm a contrarian on this issue to a degree. the guy got 77 million votes. he doesn't have to convince that many people, the jury box i go you it's three because it's legally it's one. right. is a hung jury. but three, you could like you can't get bullied by the other ones and you stay strong. and yet, we know we have that one juror on that, who she already says, i don't like trump. i don't like the way he treats people. i think he's selfish. so i'm not even looking for an acquittal. i'm looking for, you has the most star power of anybody in that courtroom by four and some of these jurors, if they have mixed feelings or if they like them, they might be totally star struck by him and might be anticipating him
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to testify. >> so they'll disregard the evidence. i mean, the reality is starstruck or not, it comes down to the okay. you take as a juror and that allows requires that you follow the law. and there are multiple counts here. so are they going to say with respect to every count there's nothing to see here that ledgers fine. that invoice is fine. i just don't know there are 34 counts, but there's only one lie. >> right? it's just the same lie repeated over and over again. but we know that jurors decide cases based often on emotion and then they back into the logic. so he good do himself a favor by tested. so then how does the defense team work this out? >> then i assume despite what their client says, that there they start this thinking we'd like to keep them off the stand how do you make that calculation as you go, if you think you're losing, you say, okay let's roll the dice, let's put the politician in there. and when a vote is that how you doing wave it's going well for them of cross examination, they will these guys are smithereens. you're turning around and telling your client no way do you get on that stent? now, obviously this
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is a difficult trial client to control and ultimately, whether or not to testify as a client's decision, not the lawyers decision. so it's anybody's guess how this is going to help me with the opening statements calculation. it's been a long time, but i sit in courtrooms and sometimes the prosecution gives this long laundry list instead, it's all my might all be great. it might all be substantive. they might have a great case, but they lose the jury. they just put them since the auc other case are they just come and say we have a lot to talk about over the next six weeks here are the five or six things you need to know today. boom, boom, boom, boom. move on. what do you do here? >> i would do that because what you really want to give them is an overall attempt thousand foot view. and you want to give them, you want let me give them a roadmap. you want to give them kind of inflection points just two points of reference. so they know what's going on as it happens to go into the details and given the whole long-winded story without any context, not going to work, you got to go my cousin vinny, i stand up and say what he just said is bs >> i know. i think you're getting up there forcefully, passionately and with joe jackson mentioned last night, i think when we're on is about jury nullification sometimes
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you can in a case like this, with passion and reason, you could say they prove their case. what came out of here, you determine what justices. >> and so then helped me with the second level. he's helped making the opening argument for the defense. he did the prosecution. you're the lawyer at the table? what are you doing? you watch him, you watching the jury trying to figure out who's doing what i'm watching both, but i'm not a big believer in watching body language or facial expressions because we've all had the experience, a jordan nods at you throughout the entire island, you lose. so it's something that doesn't really work. >> you know, it's funny because you'll sometime be watching majority of the whole trial it could be months long and you think i got this juror at the end of the day that's the one you did everybody hear not that i think they keep it thematic. right. i think that's how you captivate your audience. you keep it really generic, just giving them a sense of what you'll do. but i'm looking for what the defense will do at the end of the day quickly you can talk about michael cohen being a perjurer. you can talk about stormy daniels being unsavory.
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do you have corroboration was a shell company established are not are there text messages indicating that this was a game plan or not? are there emails? is there other other things that show that what you're saying is unsavory as you are listen, it's true because there are other things to establish that that's going to be significant thing. we throw around historic and unprecedented. >> we use those words too often. this is truly historic and unprecedented. we'll see you on monday, gentlemen. appreciate all your time tonight. thank you so much. it was a dramatic and emotional day in court. if for some of the prospective jurors to two broke down in tears. understandably feeling weight of it all up next the pressures on the shoulders of the jurors with the legendary white house counsel john dean who knows a bit about what it's like to feel the heat. and later to trump post a bad bond on for his hundred and $75 fraud fine. why new york's attorney general is now asking a judge to void it the source with kaitlan collins brought to you by jp morgan wealth management
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with the pressure this high, can i keep it together? will they follow the rules joining me tonight? someone who is no stranger to high pressure moments in american history. the form of richard nixon, white house counsel john de john, it's great to see you. we spent a lot of time. what's at stake for donald trump? the tension between the judge and the lawyers, the prosecutor who's stay going to stand up and try to put a former president of the united states in jail. it's never happened before. but what about these 12 ordinary americans who have to sit there who are now part of huge history and they have enormous it's pressure and also enormous stakes well, they must feel it especially by the fact they're anonymous and then they know that they know that their identity is being withheld. >> in fact, one of them resigned from the jury pool when or the initial jury when she found out she had been uncovered by media coverage in general. and others figured out it was her. so yes, they're under a lot of pressure. they know what's ahead. it's a big decision. they're going to have to make at some point when they
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deliberate on whether this man is guilty or innocent. so yes, i'm sure there's a lot of pressure and we'll see how they handle it. >> so one of the potential jurors raised her hand in the middle of the quest's said she was feeling extremely anxious. she too was removed emotional turmoil, but yeah, when trump was president, we all lived it through his tweets. now you have 12 people, 18 people, if you count the alternatives in a box, there what do you, what would you if you were in that courtroom? what did we looking for every day or if you are a fellow juror or what would you be looking for in your peers, your colleagues, every day well, juries are hard to observe as your panel initially noted, citing some jurors not at lawyers, some smile at defendants. and what happened? have you that's not a very good read because when they get into the deliberations, other things seemed to happen as you read the history of jury service. and i've read a number of books that have addressed this it varies from jury the jury, but they take on their own chemistry and their own personality. so this jury
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is so young, we don't really have a read on it. but these are a bunch of strangers who don't know each other, who are going to be very intimate for probably at least six, if not more weeks and you have personal experience at this being involved in something high pressure that involves the words the president of the united states how does that make it different? >> how does it make it more intense well, i think the parents the parallel you're referring to is i was the key witness for the government in us versus mitchell haldeman are like men at all, which were the former attorney general, chief of staff of nixon his top domestic advisers others involved in the watergate cover-up. >> and the president was a coconspirator in that he did not get he had been pardoned so that he could not be indicted. but he was a coconspirator. there was a lot of pressure on that jury. in fact, the jury was sequestered by the judge i wouldn't be surprised if this jury gets sequestered, also, given the pressure they're under, it's not from donald
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trump that the pressure is going to come. it's from his followers in his over exuberant supporters at times, we know what they did in the capital. we know that they can be activated. we know that he called for them becoming demonstrate. so sequestering this jury would not be an out-of-order sort of arrangement. and then they would become even more in a minute. >> but it also becomes more stressful than you take people away from their family for matter waster. so i think the judge at the beginning does at the beginning, the judge has tried to say, let's see if we can do this. the quote unquote normal way oh, but that means they're not supposed to talk about a case that involves the former president that states that means they're not supposed to post or look at social media in a case that involves the former president of the united states. so it's incredibly difficult and this has come up troubles listening intensely. another potential jurors shared she was worried she'd be disqualified because of a prior criminal conviction and judge merchan said this, we heard from a very brave woman who shared we're very personal things about her life. i know that wasn't easy to do in a room full of strangers, please be kind to this person. what's your perspective kind? that's a
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message to donald trump, the defendant, who sometimes scholars and people who sometimes also could be quite charming with people if you had a room with him, but it's also a message to people in our business to be careful about what but we do disclose about these people right exactly. >> and that's been one of the problems. there's often been an overreaction or a reaction to trump's beitin of the media. and we know that the right-wing media has been more than willing to be his defender to go out and go after these people. we live already fox news has already targeted this, this jury claiming that liberal activists are slipping onto it. so that's this all baloney. there's no basis for it. and it's very early in the process and i think we have a good judge john, who will be able to handle this with equanimity and justice. >> we start that second phase on monday, johnny and grateful for your perspective tonight. thank you, sir and as john was the one about the high pressure here today and all the focus
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statements and the trump hush money trial. >> starting monday at 90 tonight new york police say they're reviewing security measures around donald trump's trial that after a florida man lit himself on fire right across the street from the courthouse, please say that man now in critical condition, this was the scene after he was removed smoke still billowing. >> the motive is unclear, but officials say the man did throw pamphlets about conspiracy fiercely theories into the air before dowsing himself with a liquid and setting himself on
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fire as people screamed and ran from the area. remember donald trump, just yards away inside the courthouse as lawyers vetted the final set of alternate jurors, my legal sources are back with me, adjoint. let let's start with that. this is an extreme incident. we hope an isolated incident today but it does remind you big events like this can become a magnet for people who are trying to make some kind of a statement whether it's anything to do with donald trump are not. plus there's the added factor of we have seen around events that involved donald trump before, protests. many of them peaceful, but it's gonna be an episode without question, john and that brings to mind the issue the gag order that we'll be addressed on tuesday. why? because the whole nature and purpose of the gag order is to protect people to not have the president with the bully pulpit that he has former president and so many followers who believe in him, who like him. some hatim, some love them. but people are moved to action. and if you talk talk about certain people that you shouldn't talk about, like the judges, family and others. if you talk about
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witnesses, if you talk about jurors, there could be consequences. we pray not. but in response to your question, when you see issues like this, it brings to mind the realities of what tuesday's hearing about the gag order is all about you incite people to action. and this could be the result let's go back to the conversation has how much dean about the jurors he says, maybe the judge suits your the judges decided not to do that. >> i think for humanity reasons, you want these, you take these people away from their families, their lives. it's going to be stressful enough. you want them to go home, sleep, they're on bad, see their own children, partners, friends, and things like if that how does th balance out though? what are the risks? is that the right thing to do on a high-profile case? and what are the risks? well, luck. i think a happy jurors are thoughtful juror number one. number two if judge marsha wants this case to move along, and he decided to sequester jury at the outset. this we wouldn't be talking about opening statements come monday. so i think look through an anonymous and they can take
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steps to protect them and predict their identity so they should take every effort they can short of sequestering to keep this trial moving john de is right. there. may come a time. there may be events that unfold that many say, hey, look, i'm gonna have to request for you, but for now, i think he's on the right right course to try to keep things in place and you walk us through the rules. >> how anywhere in the world, but especially in manhattan, you associate the asked people to go off the grid gothic omega it's very difficult, but that's what the instruction will be. >> do not look at any media about this case, do not read about this case, do not talk talk about this case. the other thing is the jurors are not gonna be able to discuss the case until they enter. their deliberations. and that's very difficult because that's the main thing happening in your life. so when michael cohen takes the stand, of course they're naturally going to want to talk about that, but they can't. they have to talk about other things like sports or the weather? so it's very challenging situation. >> can you expect these people? i mean, this is this one of those things online. you gone
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lot, let's say you think you're going to do sports no matter where you go. this is going to be how do you i guess if you if you just see it, what's your what's your responsibility to, judge? i was doing something i thought i was one of those it popped up. i didn't dwell on it. i took it off. how do you work that out? >> yeah, that has happened where juror comes in and then fesses up that they saw something, but it really the method of technology, it's like there are these pop-ups so they're not even trying to do it in terms of sequestration. john when i was a kid jurors during deliberations was sequestered like, i think in b and a felonies. so once the judge charge the jury or the day before and say bring your overnight bag once you start deliberating on bomb, locking you in i don't think that would be such a bad idea here for either sayyed to say, hey, once you wants to, the cases in the jury's ads, but it's really protected seven, put them in a hotel with the court office. >> and until then helped me understand if you may have different perspectives. so a juror violates the rules, maybe so small violation with the pick violation, i assume everybody agrees that juror has to go. that's why you have
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altered it. but if it is just something, something popped up or i told my husband not to talk to me about it, but he did how do you how do you then make an assessment of your going to ask the judge? >> it's usually calls him in one-on-one. you go in the backyard, the judge's roving room, everyone's their all their back to participants. and you see it's really about a matter of degree. and then both sides take a position if it was a person in jury selection, you didn't like this is your opportunity to say, judge, you gotta throw them off. and so when you judge wasn't such a big deal, but also the judge might want to err on the side of getting rid of the juror because if you keep the jury are creating a issues and the court depends upon the nature of the violation, and you always get called to the principal's office. that is the judge. and then you explain what goes on. and i think we could expect and anticipate that's why we have alternate things are going to arise. accord offices is going to hear some discussion for the jurors as you noted, or they're not supposed to talk. i heard them speaking together. they would talk about michael coleman. they would talk about salami, dan's issues will arise. it'll be up to the judge to determine whether it reaches the gray to get them off the jury.
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>> i think at the bottom line as a judge has to determine in the exchange with the juror, notwithstanding everything, can you still be fair and listen? some to just the facts and decider on the laws. i instruct you and the judge is going to have to evaluate the credibility of the juror, whether or not they can in fact do that but i assume that's got to be a lot of wow, walking out of the courtroom, but that's not talking about it, right? >> if you just say, wow, what a day, but that's not theirs. fair enough. that juror can stay while i still have to say, well, let's see on much more hi these guys don't agree on much. we've got a full unanimous agreement. you can say, wow, joey jackson, david kelley, were not arthur adela. thanks. so what's your attention and thank you. have a great weekend, a revolt to house the house speaker, mike johnson. now picking up steam, he may soon need democrats to throw him a lifeline and yes, drumroll, please. speaking of bad blood, taylor swift if it is spilling it in a big way on her new double album, that's already breaking records in just one day. she just dropped the first music video from it this evening and she said off, yes, a swiftie frenzy there's
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let's start there, congress and a lot of drama to discuss a lot of theater but the substance, are you convinced now after this vote today and you're coming in tomorrow that the money for ukraine, the money for israel, the money for taiwan will finally, after months of debate and a lot of drama clear the congress john, before we start, i just want to say, i'm not wearing a tux because you're filling in tonight. >> i'm at the moldova in american convention gala. so that's why i'm in a tux. but let me just say this is critically important. today i spoke before the moldova in american convention. they're very concerned about what is happening in ukraine. we need to lead the united states is the leader of the free world. we cannot shirk and are responsibility i think the speaker deserves a lot of credit for putting this on the floor, knowing full well, it could cost him his job as speaker, but it's the right
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thing to do. russia, china, and i ran are engaged in an unholy alliance that seeks to undermine and destabilized the free world holt, and ensuring that our allies israel ukraine, and taiwan get the aid that they need is critical, not just for the future of the world, but america's role in it. and i think putting this bill on the floor, getting it passed in a broad bipartisan vote tomorrow pro is essential. i think the speaker in the end will be fine because he's doing what is right by the country and by the institution. and i think all of us republicans and democrats need to take the opportunity to also do what is right and not throw this house into chaos. by joining in with a handful of malcontents and removing the speaker. >> if you say you think he'll be fine it's you have three already, and you have a whole bunch of others who are
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disgruntled, who knows if they would vote for vacate but if he's going to be fine, is he going to need democrats to survive at least for now if they file that motion absolutely. i mean, look, it's a reality of the math in order to remove the speaker, you need all the, all of the democrats to join in. as we saw with the removal of kevin mccarthy. and i think it's incumbent upon everybody, republicans and democrats to uphold the institution and say, we're not going to partake in this. we're not going to join in on this chaos with the matt gaetz as of the world or the marjorie taylor greene's or paul gosar, we're going to do what's right. the speaker is making a very courageous decision. yes, it's his job but as we've all seen, it's not always easy to do the right thing. and he's doing it political consequences be and i think that's something that people should respect
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within the institution and recognize that look removing the speaker is not going to result in a democratic speaker. we have a republican majority will be a another republican but throwing the house into chaos for another three weeks, or maybe even more. this time around is not in the interest of the american people and that's something that i think all of us have to recognize collectively. >> one of the reasons the principal reason marjorie taylor greene says she wants to remove speaker johnson is because of the ukraine issue she says he's with the democrats. i came to washington when ronald reagan was president, was very different republican party back in those days, you're in the room and we see what it said. publicly. we see what it says on the floor. you're in the private rooms. i just want you to listen here to marjorie taylor greene, who sounds like she's a kremlin spokesman. and then speaker johnson with very different perspectives on what's at stake here. >> fight. amir putin has not said he wants to go march across europe and take europe.
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>> i think that vladimir putin would continue to march through europe if he were allowed. i think he might go to the balkans next. i think he might have a showdown with poland are one of our nato allies the speaker's view is your view, which i think is still the majority view among house republicans, but not like it used to be. >> that minority is growing and it is very vocal. what goes on in the closed-door session when you stand up and say what the hell are you saying? >> you know, i understand the reason that the moldovan american convention tonight is my wife is from moldova. her family lives on the ukraine border. i know full well, the consequence of failure in ukraine it means a country like moldova, which doesn't have a military, will fall of vladimir putin has made it very clear that he would invade moldova. and he is trying to rebuild the former soviet union i think the vast majority of congress and the republican conference understands the threat we are
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facing this is not in a silo. you have iran russia, and china that have been engaged in an unholy alliance that seeks to undermine and destabilize the united states. israel, europe, and the free world when you look at the situation in with iran, for instance, you have a country that is the greatest state sponsor of terror. they fund hamas 93% of their budget. they fund hezbollah or the houthis and other terrorist organizations. you know, where they get the money from, they get the money from china. china purchases iranian petroleum at percent of its revenue comes from china so this is something where in this bill tomorrow, my bill, the ship act, the iran, china energy sanctions act, will be part of the the bill to go after iran and china look, ronald reagan's philosophy was very clear peace through strength. america can keep peace in the world when it is strong, when our allies are
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strong, when we are supporting democracy, that is the objective. that is why i will proudly cast my vote tomorrow in favor of the bill that speaker johnson is putting on the floor america must lead. we have no alternative. and if we shirk in this responsibility, you will see a new world order arise with russia, china, and iran leading the way. and that will be devastating for america economically. and from a national security standpoint. >> i suspect your view will carry the day tomorrow, but i also suspect you'll be back here next week talking about the fallout& the house of representatives, congressman ghraieb, for your time tonight. thank you, sir. thanks, john, the big pivot here. this just in taylor swift dropped the first music video of her new album. it's called fortnite as features to tattooed rapper post malone swift's double album, the tortured poets
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department has been out for less than 24 hours already. it is breaking records according to billboard spotify's most streamed album in a single day this year i'm actually going to vomit right now so here we're just brief thought what are the titles? >> what are the titles? what are the titles? other feature one song one song. >> thank you. amy has listeners convinced taylor's talking about kim kardashian. they've had bad blood since 2016? yes. pun intended for starters, check this out. this is the title of the song with just kam kim capitalised and the song is about a high school bully throwing punches and swift is left to deal with a searing pain. many think it's about kim kardashian is verbal attacks. we'll keep you posted if there's any official response and we'll bring it to twitter
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frankly, what took place when dag, a crooked age petition, james who can make or the fact that i'm going to get drunk on where to get trump. that's all she said for two years joining me now is a journalist with the years of reporting on trump finances, senior forbes editor, dan alexandra, dan thank you for your time. >> letitia james says, essentially this is bogus the deal doesn't meet the standards of how you have to put these things together. does she have a point well, there are some legitimate concerns here. >> the primary one is the nature of thick that supporting this bond so there's $175 million bond on the night that it was posted. one of my colleagues at forbes talked to john hankey, use the billionaire behind the company than solving trump secure this bond. and he said that the collateral was a mixture of cash and investment-grade bonds but now legal papers, his company is saying actually it's purely cash and that's a big question. whether these are ban, supporting this, or
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whether it's cash because the value of bonds fluctuates in a way that cash doesn't and the state wants to know whether or not that 175 million is truly secure. >> so what happens if the judge rules against trump? does he have gotten find another bond company, come up with the cash himself yeah. >> trump's going to be fine here in the end. >> this story. he has more than $175 million in cash other companies will issue them a bond if this one doesn't. >> but it isn't new sense any might ended up having to pay a higher fee. >> knight specialty insurance was a company that actually reached out to him proactively. we don't know the nature of that agreement and exactly how much she's paying fees, but it seems like a safe assumption that it was at the very least fair market deal. it's not bit of a bargain. he might end up having to pay a little bit more. if you ask to go shop around and look at other firms, if nothing else, these two proceedings a few blocks apart, a half an hour apart, remind us that trump has more than one, more than you can fit on a
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hand, maybe two hands of legal issues. so there's that just that how many he has, but it's there the connection between these two cases yeah. >> there's are some of the witnesses are the same between the civil fraud case and the criminal one in fact, one of the key people in the criminal cases, allen weisselberg, who was for a long time and cfl of donald trump's company. and you would expect him to be somebody who had testifying the beneficial to trump, however, when he testified in a civil fraud case, he perjured himself and is now sitting on rikers island in jail for committing that perjury. so he's going to come to this case because all of that baggage that's going to undermine whatever testimony and credibility trump's team is going to try to build up behind him. >> but and helped me you say trump has maneuvered his portfolio a little bit. he seems to be anticipating the need for some money. how so yeah, if you look at their claim that this is $175 million in pure cash and you compare that to what is portfolio was a
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couple of years ago. >> he wasn't sitting on $175 million pure cash at that point. >> so he's clearly shifted things where he's more liquid and where you can be ready to outlay significant sums of money. he doesn't, however, have the amount of cash to pay the full judgment, which is north and $416 million at this point, although he can cover the bond, which is the lower $175 million i figure. see what happens in court on monday. dana alexander. thanks very much thank you. this weekend, a new cnn film premiere, blue carbon, natures hidden power. >> here's a preview jaded guy is not your average scientist know it started that way. >> i got my undergrad and biology and ecology and my master's in environmental toxicology. >> and what did you think you wanted to do with your life? >> i wanted to be a professor like i wanted to go the full academic route. >> clubs got, yeah. are to go
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hard, right turn and changed my life music was the other love of her life and when she began making it as dj, dj to g a whole new career took off. >> she worked with mega stars and book gigs and festivals, all wall finishing her mask misters on the effects of toxins on killer whales. >> the two loves merge in her film, blue carbon and immersive journey through the watery landscapes that survey was massive allies and fighting the climate crisis. so blue carbon is basically these ecosystems that are amazing at pulling carbon out of the atmosphere and putting it deep into the ground. >> you're saying this is blue harb business, blue carbon. >> so yeah, it's not blue brown and remember but but it is blue carbon they're like ten times better at it than the amazon rain forest. >> for example, those ecosystems are mango forests, seagrass meadows, and salt marshes. we were taking field recordings throughout the whole film. >> and then i took all those
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field recordings and made a song out of it essentially, and you get to hear that song at the end of the film. i want to make a new anthem for nature by recording the sounds of coastal habitats that we don't value enough. you play these and festivals. yeah, yeah. >> how do you connect your music audience with what you care about as a biologist, aza ecologists, incorporating those sounds automatically gives me something to talk about because people really care and they're interested. >> there's your j to g, the dj per but then there's j to the biologist and that's a paradox at times given the footprint, the energy use it festivals and all of that but it definitely is a paradox like i'm touring dj, i have to fly to my gags and so i handled carbon footprint and then there's this other part of me that's the environmentalist and he study in nature for so many years, how i reconcile that is by using my platform to talk about climate change and the environment.
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>> and also, i want to lead as an example that we all have that parent dogs within ourselves. we all live on this planet. we all have things that we do, whether we're conscious of it or not, that hurt the environment just by existing in the society. and we're always at odds and that's okay. we can still be at paradox and still want to help and save the environment, right? >> and maybe instead of getting defensive, say maybe there's a better way to fill this want or need exactly in a way that's better for all life, exactly when we bring down the defensiveness, it really opens everything up of more discussions and solutions it's pretty interesting. >> be sure to tune in. cnn film presents blue carbon natures, hidden power at premiere sunday, 9:00 p.m. eastern pacific, right here only on cnn. thanks for your time tonight. hope you have a great weekend. cnn news night with abby phillip starts now

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