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step counter those sport matt and wireless remote call good morning. good morning. >> welcome to cnn this morning, it's saturday, april 20. i'm victims walker. here's what we're working on for you this morning congress is in session for a working weekend because see a final vote on a $95 foreign aid package for ukraine and israel as early as this afternoon. >> a much different vote though could cost. mike johnson, the speaker's gavel, marjorie taylor greene says there's a civil war in the house of representatives. and as another lawmaker joining her motion to vacate, we're going in-depth ahead annually, a half a dozen blasts, rock a military base belonging to an iran-backed militia in iraq at a time of high tensions across the mideast. what we know about it coming up and former

president donald trump hits the campaign trail today, just two days he's before opening statements begin. in an historic hush money trial in new york, the judge's stern warning to trump's legal team, that's coming so in just about three hours, the house of representatives will gavel into what's shaping up to be a grueling weekend session three foreign aid bills for israel. ukraine, and the indo-pacific region are up for debate. plus a fourth bill with offerings to placate house republicans, like sanctions for russia, iran, china, and potential nationwide tiktok ban. at the very least, those aid bills are worth about 95 billion. total expected to pass. the rule for the foreign aid bills passed with more democrats and supportive it, then republicans, yeah, speaker mike johnson worked across the aisle to get those bills passed, but that bipartisan effort could cost him the gavel. he's only been speaker now for six months, just yesterday, representative paul gosar of arizona became the

third republican harlow liner to join the effort to oust johnson and joining representatives marjorie taylor greene and thomas massie. >> now, greene is leading the effort, but hasn't enforced floor vote on the resolution just yet, the earliest we could see that happened is today joining us now is punchbowl news congressional reporter max cohen up bright and early for us, max get to see this morning. let's start with a votes on the house floor today, speaker johnson's plan is to put those four votes on the floor this afternoon. >> so you have each aid bill, one for ukraine, as we said, israel, taiwan, and the other with sanctions for russia, iran, and china, they'll all be voted on separately why the strategy now several months in and of course, what are we expecting? >> yeah, i think we'll see all four of those bills. you just disgusted past with pretty broad bipartisan support. and that's a really big change here from my johnson for months. good resisted putting these aid bills on the floor.

>> but in a real change of direction earlier this week, he said, look if it's worth my job being lost? >> if it's worth being ousted, just like chem a carthy, then i'm going to do it because he believes that's in the national security imperative for the united states of america he mentioned is sun is going to be going to the naval academy in the fall. and he said he'd rather send bullets to ukraine, then put his own son and other americans in harm's way if russia continues to march across europe. and this are the major turnaround for someone who voted against ukraine aid before he was speaker? yeah. yeah, he said that he's going to do the right thing and let the chips fall where they may right? so as you said, speaker johnson fighting for his political survival after we've got more democrats to vote for the rule that publications on friday which advance that $95,000,000 bill, he will need them again today, right. as you were saying, it's called by partisan ship. and of course we are continuing to hear some and the right flank we've mentioned those three calling for his ouster, but they're also divided on that. listen to

be asking the most concerning question, what has mike johnson made a deal to do? >> what has he promised he will give them in the future. and this is why we have to remove mike johnson from the speakership because he has made a deal. >> this was a terrible mistake however that doesn't mean that i support what i would consider to be not the most prudent action, right now, we're six months before an election. we've got a two or three vote margin. there's a far greater degree of uncertainty in that situation. then there was back in september so that was a house freedom caucus chair, bob good. but clearly there isn't much of an appetite for another speakership fight and the chaos that came with it will there be a floor vote to oust johnson? what what's your take? >> i expect marjorie taylor greene will force a vote in the coming weeks. as you mentioned, it could be as soon as today, but i expect it probably will happen after the house returns from recess, perhaps in a week

but at the end of the day, democrats have indicated to me that they will vote to save mike johnson in this event, if a vote comes up because they think he would have done the right thing on foreign aid. but taking a step back, i think the real issue is my johnson simply can't continue is the leader of the house gop after november, i think no one wants again amount now and republican party except for maybe a dozen or so. but it's not tenable for him to remain in power past november if democrats, the ones who are profit above de, that there were concessions made. minority leader hakeem jeffries didn't answer directly when he was asked of house democrats got any concessions from republicans after they helped advance this bill. and we also heard there from marjorie taylor greene that there was some kind of deal believes and this is why this bill passed. what what are your thoughts yeah, as you mentioned, jeffries is pretty tight lip there, but i think the main concession was simply the fact that these four foreign aid bills are being voted on. >> this is what democrats have been demanding for months ever

since the senate pass its own version of chemo, referees have been saying, bring the senate bill to the floor hello, mike johnson has done essentially is do exactly that. but three bills, you grade israel in the indo-pacific are almost identical to the senate bills. and the fourth, those you mentioned with tiktok bands and other sanctions. that's not super partisan johnson didn't tie this to border funding. you didn't tie to other poison pill piece of legislation. this is largely a democrat when in many ways, which is now correct myself and the bills haven't passed it. i was talking about the role that procedural motion to advance the bill next, cohen. good to see you. thank you. >> let's go now to cnn, white house reporter camila to she is traveling with the president in wilmington, delaware could be a look. good morning to you. so as max mentioned, passing these bills would be a big win for democrats. of course, a big win for the administration what's the white house saying this morning well, the white house has that president biden will immediately sign these bills if

they are passed and signed them into law. >> luck, this is a big win for the biden administration if these bills are passed the white house has been demanding for months for congress and lawmakers to quickly act like act and pass these, these bills put provide additional assistance to countries like ukraine and israel. they've also pointed to the fact that ukraine's military has almost weekend and lost a lot of ground to their fight against russia they cited that it's because they have just lacked monday and they need more additional support from the us. so this is a really big deal. and also with these bills included in there, it would provide about $9.2 billion in humanitarian aid and assistance is a big thing for biden as well. so if these bills are passed, biden has signaled he is quick to act and sign these bills into law back to you, amara victor? >> yeah. so sorely needed that 9.2 billion in humanitarian aid camila digitalis force in wilmington. thank you. >> a jury is seated& historic.

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>> suddenly me assessment by one top us a, it's saying that neither side wants to see this being taken further. we've seen only iranian sayyed and effort to downplay israel's attack on its for harm. we've heard from iranian officials somewhat diminishing really the scale of the attack describing israel is using tiny drones at the impact physically was limited to just a few smashed windows. and as you mentioned, we heard yesterday from the iranian president ebrahim raisi speaking no mention of israel's attack, although their continues to be a focus on iran's retaliatory attack on israel following israel's consular strike. and so clearly, there appears to be a consideration of the broader regional impact here. and of course, as we know, iran has recently re-established ties with both the united arab emirates and saudi arabia. both key ally to the united states in the region. we know that the us has been vocally pushing for neither side to take this further. normally is really sayyed of course, this is also

being taken as a wind domestically, just as it is in iran. we've seen from these really sayyed, no clear acknowledgment of responsibility for the strike. but what this is really signaling on the israeli side is that there's clearly an intelligence advantage here. the targeting of s a heinous course, crucial and strategic. this is a province where we have a key major military airbase. we have a nucleus facility. this is an industrial hub known for producing missiles and drones. so clearly there is a strategic message being sent here when it comes to israel's intelligence advantage. but of course there is a fear more broadly in the region that this could have provoked and triggered a broader escalation, particularly when it comes to iran's proxies in the region. we've of course seen this explosion now in iraq, fears there around the possible connections the us and israel both denying any sort of involvement are responsibility for that. and of course, at this current point in time, it appears as though both sides by

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will go on they filled the remaining five alternate seats. >> moments after the full jury was picked, a bizarre and tragic moment outside court as a man set himself on fire. authorities say he was previously known to the police. and while they are searching for for any domestic terror connections, that is not believed to have been the motivation in court. a handful of perspective jurors became emotional one was excused after she told the judge she had anxiety and was worried as the trial goes on, more people could know she's part of the jury saying, i might not be able to be completely fair and not emotional. so that concerns me. another was dismissed after she began crying, saying, i'm sorry, i thought i could do this. i wouldn't want someone who feels this way to judge my case either. i don't want you to feel i've wasted anyone's time. this is so much more stressful than i thought. a third with sent home after noting she was feeling anxiety and self-doubt as she listened to a line of questioning about

the credibility of witnesses at the defense table, trump set flipping through papers with charts, photos, and graphics. he whispered and passed notes with his lawyers and at some points was hunched over with his elbows on the desk prosecutors susan hauwa, fingers started off questioning potential jurors, telling them this is not about mr. trump being a former president, is not about his being a candidate for the presidency. it's only about whether the evidence proves he's guilty during her presentation, trump leaned back in his chair at one point, his eyes closed trump's attorney, susan necklace focused on bias against the former president. she told those in the jury box, you all bring biases and you particularly bring biases about someone who is as publicly and outspoken as president trump. there's no me that doesn't know him in this room in the afternoon. the court moved to a routine hearing to determine how much of trump legal history the prosecution will be allowed to ask him about if he testifies, which he said he plans to. prosecutors argued they should be allowed to question trump about the

findings in the e jean carroll defamation case, among others despite trump's attorneys strong objections the former president shook his head as the prosecution spoke about how he defamed carroll. judge merge son said he expects to rule on monday on what prosecutors could ask donald trump if he does take the stand and testify in his own defense. prosecutors also said the expected call their first witness on monday, trump's lawyers again asked if they could know the identity any of that witness. prosecutors said they would tell them on sunday, but they said if it ends up on social media, it will be the last time amara, viktor kara scannell force there joining us now to discuss former federal prosecutor and defense attorneys shan wu shan. good morning to you. let me pick up where kara left off there and i want to start with the question of this hearing judge merchan says that he'll let the attorneys know by monday what's germane what's in and what's out? what is he likely considering over the weekend to determine? what's within the

bounds for potential trump testimony really, he is considering the relevance to the trial, the reason, first of all, let me say i think the prosecutors were somewhat conservative in the different areas that they put forth as being potentially useful for cross-examination. the main problem for trump here is that the areas that they want a cross-examine him in all go to veracity credibility, and he's on trial for fraud. >> basically. and so that really opens up an issue if you've previously found to be lying, and that's what's really opening the door to all of these other issues. so there's been some discussion, i think a little bit confusing in the media that this is all bad character evidence that's true in a sense, certainly, because it slams up his character but it will only come in because he's taken a stand and his credibility, any witnesses, any defendants credibility is very much an issue when they're testifying

and these past acts lying about someone, the defamation, civil fraud, and business records, those things all go to his honesty and credibility that the jury is always allowed to consider. >> yeah. there's all well, so the decision by prosecutors not to tell the defense the initial witnesses these first witnesses until sunday, and they initially didn't want to tell them the names at all. is this something that is of any substance for potential appeal i know of course, the trump team has any defense attorney would be they're looking for what might give them a better shot in case there's a conviction i don't think that it is a substantive grounds for appeal because the timing of the order here for of the witnesses is really just something that's more of a professional courtesy. >> i do think it tells us a lot about the concerns that the prosecution has over the security and the integrity of the case. i also think it leads

to the question of whether judge merchan needs to reconsider the way he is protected in a jury, as well as the gag order on trump the jury. so we know that they're gonna be stressors we hope that there will not be some effort to disclose information about them while this trial is going on. >> i mean, you could ask ruby freeman samos what it feels like if you're targeted by some of the president's former president's supporters why not sequester this jury? i mean, i can imagine if i'm on the jury and i come out and find out that a man has set himself on fire outside of the courthouse that would add to those structures and pressures. >> oh, i think that's a great question. i think the main reason he wouldn't sequester them now is because when they were picked and being questioned, they weren't told that they would be sequestered, so that could cause some more problems you might have to go

into the all-trans because being sequester is like big chunk out of your entire life at that point, he's certainly should consider sequestering them further deliberations. >> part but i was just thinking yesterday and watching all the stressors with these folks saying that there are understandably anxious that he might need to reconsider that he may have underestimated just how stressful it would be. >> he's done a great job working through the jury selection process, but he may not fully appreciate just how stressful it is for the jurors. >> yeah. i just i thought about after of course, the reporting of what happened, leaving that courthouse and knowing that it happened just outside for whichever reason the man chose to do it. could be intimidating in some way. let me ask you about this hearing is coming up on tuesday the prosecutors are asking for a fine for trump, $1,000 for each post that they claim is a violation of the gag order it is the purpose to be a

deterrent. i mean, what's $1,000 to a billionaire what's the value here i think it's really making the record. >> it's nice to attach amount that each violation because you can show how many violations there were. i think it's not quite as straightforward as is looking legally because, for example, when he quotes somebody else saying something about the jury, excuse, be at about the jury then he could argue that look, that's not covered in the gag order. it certainly violates the spirit of the gag order, but the order actually says he can't personally talk, rather tell someone else to talk about. he might say, well, i'm just quoting someone else. my personal opinion is that the judge needs to be more expansive, needs to supply a little bit of a will smith's style to the gag order saying, just keep this trial audie your mouth, period and minus that's the violence. but i think it has to be a much stronger gag order at this point. and of course, he really does need to

follow up with i mean, whether trump goes to jail or violations, hard to say but i liked the idea of amounts assigned to every violation because pretty soon you can see, hey, you've got 50, 60 collision going on here. >> now, will smith is sitting somewhere wondering now how did i get it keep my juries name out all right. let me last one here for you if you are watching from florida or you're watching from dc, or you're watching from atlanta. are there any trends? it's forgivable lessons from what's happening in this trial that applied to the other criminal trials i think the big lesson is for everyone. >> now to fully appreciate how stressful it is to serve on that jury and even though these are very experienced judges and the other cases, with the exception of florida, i think they really have to reconsider what kinds of measures they're going to put in place to

protect the confidentiality mission. i think in properly got off at the press because he was frustrated at the effect of the pressure on the jurors. i mean, it doesn't do any good. the gag, the press, or it'd be gagging and trump. >> he needed he need did in the past tends to have some protocols where there would be less of this open questioning where people could figure out they're identity. >> so i think that's the big takeaway is the judge is going to be much more careful about how they're doing the volunteers. >> all right. shan wu always going to have the insight good to see you too. thanks i graduation ceremonies at the university of southern california. >> will look very different next month coming up, how the debate over the israel hamas war, as at the school into damage control great teammates trusted each other we're going to do a trust falls, stand up, you close your eyes. >> i'll say before trust what we suddenly up doc he said, i

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>> where speaker of the house, mike johnson and his family live. >> by now he and his wife, kelly well, many people, not so surprisingly, offer glowing rays use about the speakers. >> i think that he's very fair minded and he's led my god, and he really tries so make his decisions according to prayer and his heart. >> and when you go elsewhere in johnson's congressional district, like it's big as city shreveport. you will hear similar vibes great guy. it's got great moles and i think what he's doing is great. >> i think he's a good christian man. i think it's what our country needs, and i trust and even from non-republicans, how many democrats, but you support? >> i suppose my, i like my. >> so with that being said, what the speaker is louisiana constituents think of georgia congress two and marjorie taylor greene trying to take them down. >> i think that there's different factions within the republican party that all have, you all want to be heard and i think that mike's doing a good job of managing all those different opinions. and i think

marjorie taylor greene, it's just causing trouble visit anger, you yeah, it does because i think that, the last thing we wanna do is get back in situation where the houses is in turmoil and there's no leadership. >> what do you think of marjorie taylor greene, the congressman from georgia, trying to oust him as speaker of the house. >> i don't like it i don't i mean, once she do just like his stances on a number of things like funding for ukraine, for example, she doesn't want it so what do you think about that? >> i thought we started helping them. i think we've shaped continue helping. them. >> i think she's making a big mistake promoting that she's not my favorite congressperson what do you think i'm so glad she's not my representatives. we go inside this office building, a downtown shreveport and meet with this man and the oil and gas business, a lot of things that are happening today in this country remind me or what happened back in the 90s, you'd, all of us labia el

versa. hey, chick is from bosnia and says he immigrated to the united states three decades ago in the midst of the sectarian war, which led to the breakup of yugoslavia it's a beautiful country, people were getting along a lot of good people and the divisiveness between politicians have caused a major war. >> and a lot of innocent people suffered in this office, in this congressional district. we've talked to a lot of people wanting republicans and democrats to work together. and in this case republicans and republicans, it's not good to be throwing, throwing up bombs at each other instead of just, let's work together and move forward. >> it's a novel ideas and it police and maryland say they've stopped a school shooting plot coming up, but we are learning about the student they have arrested and the 100 page document say the suspect wrote

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all of this only came to light because last month he sent the book to a friend who he had previously been hospitalized within a psychiatric facility. they read it according to police, didn't even finish it before calling authorities. to report what they saw as an imminent threat of a school shooting. that kicked off this investigation. and since then, police say they have uncovered many more disturbing details online searches by ye about school shootings, ar 15s, and gun ranges, as well as some alarming messages, including one and back in december allegedly to the very same friend where you said, quote, my homicidal ideation has been getting worse lately to the point i might act on it eventually to take a listen. here's a little bit of what the montgomery county police chief said was in this manifesto during the execution of the warrant, officers were able to read 0s manifesto, which alleges is fiction.

>> in the document. ye writes about targeting his former elementary school because little kids make easier targets. >> now, there are still a lot of questions about the major red flags in years past police say a school counselor of saw him dating back to 2022, told officers that you would express violent thoughts such as shooting up the school, wanting to hurt other people people, and would smile while saying it. i want to walk you through a timeline of that hospitalization that i referenced before back in december 2022 of police say ye was hospitalized for threatening to shoot up a school the next month in january 2023, he was reported to be released from the hospital, but police say he was still preoccupied with self-harming school shootings and explosives, then in february, he was hospitalized at johns hopkins pediatric unit where he remained for five months until july when he was released to a residential

facility. what we don't know is what happened in the eight months after that, how much treatment are monitored? during that year received before march last month when his friend at notified police of that potential threat of a school shooting. now, the montgomery county school district says, ye has not physically been inside one of their schools since fall of 2022. and that's when he started taking online courses, according to police uh, did appear in court on friday on that misdemeanor charge of a threat of mass violence that carries a potential maximum penalty of ten years in prison. he is now being held without bond until his trial scheduled in early june gabe cohen, cnn washington tesla is recalling thousands of its cybertrucks. >> it has something to do with soap will explains how this soap issue is possibly endangering drivers and less than two years after becoming

the first hbcu with a women's gymnastics team, fisk university in nashville, tennessee has made history once again last weekend, morgan price became the first ever hbcus student fleet to claim a national title. >> she won the individual all around at the usa gymnastics collegiate championships. and this week's difference makers, we look at a program filled with young women who want to inspire the next generation, just like the one who ends it's fired them domestics was considered a white sport. >> if you look at this sport as a whole, there's probably about ten maybe of athletes who would classify themselves as a black athlete in this border domestics the teams are always on were very supportive, even though of course, usually i was only like one of two black girls on those teams. >> i was the only black girl on many of the teams gavi was like my idol that watch her win the

olympics and that inspired me to take gymnastics a little bit more seriously. get ready for competitions. everyone will do their hair together and stuff. and my hair is the way different texture from anyone else's i absolutely hated i hear you're constantly surrounded by girls that are just doing slick backs and i pick and put their hair up in a button easily and stuff and it's like, okay well i hair doesn't do that the first thing i noticed about coach de was that she had locks. this is the first time i've ever had a black woman coach in my life. and she had hair that looked like me now i'm on a team with girls with hair like mine, and they can help me with my hair and i don't feel like i have to change anything about myself to fit in sometimes they had to choose between an hbcu or domestics. and so now they don't have to choose. it is the first two master's program

at an hbcu or historically black college or university in history and nyima is remembered as the first hbcu gymnast to ever compete in history that was like crazy, high emotions. i was crying. i was like, oh, my god every meet after that we will be signing autographs or meeting young girls after the competition is because this was huge for them. >> i get so many dms and so many messages and so many i can tagged and so many posts from low black gymnast all over you're one of her favorite gymnast to watch. do you think maybe you can send her some motivation? you are truly an inspiration this girl come maya she did her black history month project on me it was like she wrote like a whole thing and that's also funny because i did i did a black history project on gabby douglas. so it is a full circle thing. >> i remember making i doing a project like this. now someone doing one on me, we still have a long way to go. now, as a young gymnast, you're going to

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>> i got my undergrad and biology and ecology and my master's in environmental toxicology. >> and what did you think you wanted to do with your i wanted to be a professor like i wanted to go the full academic route. >> the club's got, yeah. are took a hard right turn and changed my life music was the other love of her life. and when she began making it as dj, dj to g a whole new career took off. >> she worked with mega stars and book gigs and festivals all while finishing her masters on the effects of toxins on killer whales, the two levs merged in her film blue carbon and immersive journey through the watery landscape that serve as massive allies and fighting the climate crisis. >> so blue carbon is basically these ecosystems that are amazing at pulling carbon out of the atmosphere. and putting it deep into the ground. >> you're saying this is blue car business, blue carbon. so yeah, it's not blue brown. and

remember, but but it is garden. >> they're like ten times better at it than the amazon rain forest for example, those ecosystems are mango forest seagrass meadows, and salt marshes. we were taking field recordings throughout the whole film and then i took all those field recordings and made a song out of it, essentially. and you get to hear that song at the end. the fell, i want to make a new anthem for nature by recording the sounds of coastal habitats that we don't value enough you play these and festivals. >> yeah. yeah. how do you connect your music audience with what you care about as a biologist, as an ecologist incorporating those sounds automatically gives me something to talk wow, because people really care and they're interested. there's your j to g, the dj persona. but then there's j to the biologist and that's a paradox at times given the footprint, the energy use at festivals and all of that, but it definitely is a paradox like i'm a turing dj. >> i have to fly to my gigs and

so i have a big carbon footprint and then there's this other part of me that's the environmentalist and he study in nature for so many years, how reconcile that is by using my platform to talk about climate change and the environment and also, i want to lead as an example that we all have that paradox within ourselves. we all live on this planet. we all have things that we do, whether we're conscious of it or not, that hurt the environment just by existing in the society. >> and we're always at odds. >> and that's okay. we can still be a paradox and still want to help and save the environment, right? >> and maybe instead of getting defensive so maybe there's a better way to fill this want or need exactly in a way that's better for all life exactly when we bring down the defensiveness, it really opens everything up to have more discussions and solutions be