find. and i just keep coming back to jonah's point though, right. the reason why this has become such a flashpoint and obviously they've been incidents across at different campuses. but to your point, again, i mean, we just heard josh not hammer say that he was there. you heard people saying october 7 again, 1,000 times 10,000 times. i mean, what it does seem if you're a jewish students shouldn't you be able to attend the classes you're paying lots and lots of money for without me to hear that yeah. >> look, i mean, like we we we spent a long time in the last ten years talking about all these speech code things, about all these like a hypersensitivity, things about triggering words. but somehow gas the jews, go back to poland. all of that kind of stuff. well, that's complicated. i don't think it's complicated, katie. >> that's horrific. >> but when you're talking about the column mission, call it the cops to get those. what i'm not i'm not saying that they shouldn't. >> i'm saying that that has inflamed the situation. fair. and that is i mean, i'm just talking about what the result has been clearly, they are in a bind, clearly, it is deeply

problematic and they don't know what to do. but what we've seen is when they did that the result has been, this has spread and not been contained into so unfortunately, gianna, we don't have an hour. we do have to go. thank you very much for that conversation, guys. thanks to all of you for joining us as well. i'm kasie hunt. don't go anywhere. cnn news central starts right now as donald trump already violated the gag order ten times this morning. >> we'll find out as the judge is about to weigh & and trump heads back to core protests rocked college campuses across the country. >> how universities and authorities what to calm the tensions that show no signs of slowing down. >> and a ransomware attack at a major american health care company may have put your private information out of the open, will tell you what you need to know to try to protect your data. now, i'm sarah sayyed or john berman and kate bolduan. this is cnn news

central a warning a fine or a stent in jail this morning. >> these are the penalty options because donald trump could be facing as the judge overseeing his criminal trial is holding a hearing about the gag order that you put in place, donald trump has been at minimum testing the limits of that gag order. and now for the first time since this trial began, the judge is going to hear arguments and decide if trump went further than that, possibly trampling all over that gag order? the da says they have ten examples of violations already. >> if the judge agrees, he then needs to decide what punishment donald trump's should face after that, the jury and the first witness, david, will be called back-end, is a key player in the alleged hush money scheme at the crux of donald trump's 34 criminal charges here cnn's in june, grass is live outside court for us. >> once again, bring can you

first walk us through this gag order hearing? what what is expected could be happening yeah okay let's first remind the viewers what is that gag order, right? it was put in place at the end of march, essentially says that donald trump as a defendant in this trial, cannot talk ill about any of the witnesses in this case, any of the jurors, family, members of the prosecution, and also family members of the judge. we have an idea of what will be argued in this hearing which gets underway at 9:30 this morning. court filings from the prosecution and they have argued in court, like you said, that trump has violated this gag order by verbally, but also social media ten times. now they're asking the judge to penalize trump thousand dollars fine for each time he violated that gag order, but they go a step further. for essentially saying that also he could face some jail time. so we'll see what actually wins in court. one other thing prosecution wants the judge to remind donald trump, hey, you're the criminal defendant in this case, and that means aza

criminal defendant. you are subject to court's supervision. again, possibly that jail time. well, we see that we don't know, but this is certainly something that is going to come up the very start up core trump and his defense team essentially said, you know, i have witnesses coming after me. i have no way to defend myself. one of those witnesses. well, not surprisingly, that feud has continued with his former fixer, michael cohen just yesterday, trump was saying stuff about michael cohen after court ended, michael cohen responded in a tweet essentially saying that he had desperation attacks with his words. so we'll see if that even plays into the today's hearing. but that is what the gag order will sort of be covered and see how much, if any, donald trump has violated it according to the judge and then after this, then they get back to the trial at hand and they get back to another witness, not michael cohen, the first witness in this case, which is david. he's back on the stand. he was only briefly on the stand yesterday. brynn, what did we learn then? what is going to pick? how's it going to pick up to now?

>> yeah, you're right. so they only got into a little bit of hu david is for these jersey, is that former publisher of the national enquirer? he is on the stand under subpoena. his lawyer is also in that courtroom. >> and what we essentially are going to learn is what the prosecution laid out for us in the opening statements, how davidai good, according to them, is a coconspirator in this scheme to sort of catch and kill stories that we're defamatory to donald trump. >> and one of those stories of course, is at the heart of this case, has having to do with stormy daniels. so i imagine we will learn more about the stories that david would seek out as this former publisher of the national acquire and then crush in order to keep donald trump looking good in the lot, in the limelight of the presidential election in 2016. so i imagine we'll get very details of what his role is according to prosecutors in this entire alleged scheme. so we'll be on the lookout for that and that starts it's at about 11:00. that's when we

expect yours to return to the courtroom after they get through this gag order hearing first. >> all right. brand. thank you very much, sarah. >> or also this morning intriguing new details and donald trump's classified documents case. the stunning question being asked what's trump's valet turned co-defendant, walt nauta, promised a pardon if he was caught lying to the fbi and charged for that according to one witness, he was cnn senior crime and justice reporter caitlin polantz is joining us now. katelyn, these are stunning details get us some sense of how significant this is well, sarah, we just don't know yet what the prosecutors and the fbi thought about this when they heard it from a witness in november of 2022. >> so there fbi is investigating the collection and keeping of documents at mar-a-lago after the trump presidency. and they sit down with a witness who according to these records that we received last night through the court, they're heavily redacted. the

person who was speaking to the fbi is just called person 16 in this record. and it's a record of that person's interview in the interview, they're talking about what they witnessed in the trump white house this person worked there and then had a little bit of interaction with trump afterwards about the records and says, at one point to the fbi, investigators and it's in this court record now that walt nauta, who became a co-defendant of trump and is a very close political eight of his, that he was told by the former president's people that this investigation was not going anywhere, that it was politically motivated and much ado about nothing. what nauta was also told that even if he gets charged with lying to the fbi, the former president will pardon him in 2024. we don't know what investigators did after that, how much investigation they may have done into this particular point that this witness spoke about and recalled to them. and we

haven't gotten any explanation or comment from not as attorney at this time. we're still working to see exactly what this means or even if it could come up in trial. but these new details coming out in court this is the stuff that we could continue to learn about as records from the mar-lago investigation become more public, both through the court system and then maybe even at a trial, another detail out there yesterday from these court records is that that investigation by the fbi was called plasmic echo. sarah all right thank you so much katelyn polantz for the new reporting this morning. appreciate it. john crisis on-campus colleges struggling to manage pro-palestinian demonstrations will have put graduation ceremonies in jeopardy. >> in a major development in baltimore, the city is suing the owner of the cargo ship that destroyed the francis scott key bridge. and air wars, the critical battle and political advertising, who has a major edge heading into the

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it's omar jimenez is at columbia here in new york where this most recent wave of protests began. what's the scene there this morning? let's quiet. i have to say yeah, no, it is quiet this morning, really the only signs that there are added tensions at all or the number of barricades that are put up in the caution tape outside the gates of the university which is where we're standing right now. >> this would be are essentially we've seen a week of what at times have been tents pro-palestinian demonstrations, and it's part of why the university has now directed all of their classes to be hybrid through the rest of the semester with last day of classes is on monday, but bottom line, they say they said as part of their statements that safety is their highest priority. and look where at the start of passover week and one rabbi linked to the school the urged jewish students to stay home over safety concerns, even though the campus hillel organization disagreed with keeping jewish students home. and we've seen protests come

in multiple forms. i'm very much peaceful and in solidarity with gaza, some very openly anti-semitic and even violent messaging in nature as well. but in particular, there have been contrast between on-campus protests and those fueled by people off campus as well. in fact, organ organizers of the student protests have said their demonstrations, including a large encampment on one of the school's lawns that you may have seen videos of. they've been peaceful and distanced themselves from non-student protestors, calling them inflammatory individuals. who do not represent us. now, this all started last week when the university's president was testifying on capitol hill over anti semitism. that's when the encampment started. here at columbia, one that was created to to urge the school to divest from corporations that profit from and i'm quoting israeli apartheid, genocide, and military occupation in palestine a day later, university sent in the police

to clear out those protests, ending and arrests and suspensions as well. decision that is still being criticized by many on campus as well. in fact, yesterday we saw number of professors and others walk-out in solidarity with those students. and as you mentioned before, coming to me, john, it is not just been here, it has been places across the country three yale, mit, harvard, and even out in california as well. john all right, omar jimenez outside the gates at columbia omar, keep us posted. >> thank you very much. >> okay. >> and in competent crew is significant maintenance failures& negligence. this is how the city of baltimore is now describing the cargo ship company that crashed into the he blast mon. and the now the city is taking the owner to court and one of the largest health insurance companies in the united states scrambling to contain the damage this morning and disclosing hacker stole health and personal data of a substantial proportion of americans from its systems

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them of negligence, alleging the ship was unsc worthy when it left port and was staffed with a quote, in competent crew, six people died in that catastrophe. cnn's gabe cohen is in washington following the very latest force gave what is this city? >> trying to do, wanting to get out of this lawsuit? >> what do they say okay. >> it's gonna be a lot of money. we don't know the exact amount at those point, but you can expect it is going to be many millions, if not billions of dollars. and in this lawsuit that we're talking about here, the city of baltimore is claiming that the owners and operators of the dali ship yep. were grossly, if not criminally, negligent here, remember the ship experienced some sort of issue that caused it to lose power and steering just before hitting the bridge the morning of march 26, federal investigators still trying to figure out exactly why it lost power, focusing in on the power system right now. but at this this point, the city is pointing to reports

that the ship experienced a power issue even before it left the port of baltimore, saying in this lawsuit that the power supply problem, whatever it was, was either not investigated or not fixed and that the company's didn't maintain the engine, the vessels engine. it's propulsion system, its steering, the ship was not suitable for use as you mentioned, they also allege that the crew onboard was in confident that the crew was inattentive to its duties improperly trained, and that it failed to comply with navigation customs as it was making its way through the channel. but bottom line here for kate, the city is saying that these companies that own and operate the vessel were negligent and they have to pay up and that is because there has been this massive economic impact to the baltimore area as they put it in this lawsuit, they say the economic engine of the region would grind to a halt on march 26, 2024 we're talking about 70 billion in economic value, more than

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>> we don't know, but the fact that unitedhealth is confirming to cnn that they did pay this ransom to hackers. >> so just how worried they were a about the sensitive data on many americans here. >> now the company says that this is just a preliminary analysis, but these initial findings, they are startling because listen, we know this attack in february did a lot of damage to the health care system. it paralyze pharmacies, hurt doctors, offices, hospitals, frustrated a lot of customers, a lot of patients out there now the company has the statement out there saying that the initial final links have said that they've found quote, files containing protected health information or personally identifiable information, which could cover a substantial portion of people in america now, no precise estimate has been provided biden yet the company says that a full analysis and actually notifying people that is something that could take months. now, just to remind people what happened here, we're talking about a attack on that change healthcare. this

is united health insurance billing firm and it is massive. look at this processing 15 billion transactions a year one in three us patient records touch this company so clearly this is a company that is sitting on a treasure trove of data about all of us& the company was so concerned here that they went out and actually paid hackers. we don't know how much they paid them, but the hacking group that has been blamed for this, they say that it was 22 million in ransom. >> my god. what? can people do and what is the company doing to try to help patients deal with what could be information out there that gets their identity stolen, right? right. so the company is so concerned that they're not waiting for this full investigation. they're already taking some steps here. they've launched a customer website that provides resources, launching a dedicated call center, and they say they're going to provide free credit monitoring and identity theft protection for people who've been impacted for two years. company says they're going to continue to monitor the internet and the dark webs. they say that so far the only seen limited evidence that

information has actually been published to the internet. but still, sarah, this attack really set off alarm bells and shows just how exposed the whole health care system is. the cyber and really ultimately because it's our information at the end of the day, all of us are exposed yeah. >> and all of us may end up paying heavily for it. thank you so much. appreciate that. >> in a matter of hours, manhattan prosecutors are expected to continue a questioning of david is the longtime friend of donald trump, who is the publisher of the national enquirer for years and during that time, he was a central player in the alleged hush money scheme to suppress negative information from getting out about trump when he was running in 2016 the prosecution argues that was the eyes and ears of trump's catch and kill scheme to influence the election. yesterday, he said this from the stand the tabloids we used checkbooks, checkbook journalism, and we paid for stories. cnn's hadassah gold has much more on this. >> he does catch and kill is going to be front and center

once again for folks, remind people what this means, why it was happening, and what it really is. yeah. so it's not unusual for tabloids to pay since story, but that's usually to have it as an exclusive, they could splash it on their front pages. in this situation, they tablet editors coined it, catch and kill. this is where they would pay a source for a story. catch the story, but then not publish it, kill the story. and often these would be contracts that would say that if a source spoke elsewhere, if it got onto other tabloids, other news outlets they would have to pay the money back. now, we know this was used not just in situations donald trump, there's actually also been reporting such used with harvey weinstein as well now, why would a tabloid do this sort of thing? now, in some situations, it might be a sort of you scratch my back, i scratch yours. maybe they get a better exclusive later on. maybe there'll be a business deal later on for the magazine, for the tablet. but in david situation, prosecutors are alleging this was political. now, they say that as part of this scheme, it was not just catch and kill. it was to

publish firearm stories about trump attack his political opponents. you remember all of those covers about hillary clinton's health, how she asked three months away from dying and to silence these harmful stories on trump now there are these three sort of catch and kill situation payments. we know one of them is $30,000 that would pay that was paid to a dormant at a trump building and actually a former editor at national acquire laughlin cartwright, who has now come out publicly. he said that they were trying to prove those allegations at the national quiet when they were suddenly told by the people on high, stop, pay the guy and just don't publish flush the story at all. we also know there was $150,000 to mcdougal that was in exchange for fitness columns which prosecutors are saying was really just to keep her quiet. and of course, the $130,000 to stormy daniels. now i have to note here, this is not journalistically, okay? most reputable, reputable outlets will never pay a source for story, whether they publish it or not, right? but clearly with the tabloids was national enquirer. these are not reputable outlets yeah, a very different standard, if you will, that we are seeing exposed once again. and what role it will play in this

criminal trial of donald trump? >> we're about to see as it picks up today, it's great to see you. >> it does. thank you so much. let's talk much more about this joining us right now is criminal defense attorney william brennan. he represented donald trump's payroll corporation, and in 2022, k's william. thank you so much for jumping on let's talk about david. is testimony continuing today? >> what kind of work do you think the de has? >> prosecutors have ahead of them with their questioning today well good morning, kate, and thanks for having me. >> i think the prosecutors have to really walk a fine line because they're trying to use him as a witness, but when we examine witnesses, we talk about sometimes polluted sources in this case, it seems that this individual who's running as some managerial role in the national enquirer tabloid decided that he was going to on his own suppressed stories with his own money and

they just it just smells bad. it doesn't pass the smell test and you have to look at the publication two, we're not talking about the national review here i mean, this is a tabloid whose typical headline is elvis raising alien twins on mars. i mean, this is, this is an area that will give great fodder i think for cross-examination with the defense team and we can see that there are already lining up to try to diminish or counter all of this. we heard in opening statements what they're gonna do to prosecution witnesses. one thing we also learn from the prosecution's opening statement, william, is that they want to portray this case as an election interference case rather than a hush money case. what do you think of that? boys well, they have to portray it that way k because they painted themselves into a corner when they built this case. >> a lot of it really is built with duct tape and zip ties. they have to run it through the filter of the election interference crime because to

get it to a felony it has to be shown that a money was paid, which they have the burden of proving that be what it was paid for. and then see that it was paid in relation to another crime and they're allegation is election interference. i believe that fence will argue that if money was paid, it was paid as a legal fee and if it was paid for even remotely close purposes to what the prosecution is arguing it was paid because the defendant didn't want a personally embarrassing situation that come out that would bring shame came to him into his family. so this is going to be a bitterly fought battle and one more thing on david as he continues to testify, we do know that we heard from the defense's opening statement this in part, there's nothing illegal about what you will hear happened among the national enquirer, ami, david and donald trump. >> it's not a scheme unless it's a scheme means something that doesn't matter. that's

not illegal. what kind of indication does that give you? the defense team strategy here, i think you're good at that i was i think the defense team will hold the prosecution's burden of proving each and every element. >> and if the defense team admits that payments were made to the former attorney, i think there's gonna be a great battle as to what those payments were made for a lot of it may come down to what the memo section says on the checks. if payments were made and they're made the ordinary course of business, this case goes out the window, play in brighton. let's see what happens. very interested to hear from david back on the stand this morning. it's good to see you. thank you. >> all right. >> back-to-back thrillers overnight, a 20 point comeback for the denver nuggets and a buzzer beater that shocked the lakers and something good actually happened to new york basketball for once seen as caroline mano has all the playoff action, this morning.

so what happened? >> go on. then they sit that are pretty good season. john listen, if you went to bet early, you missed an absolute thriller. i woke up and i was like, what happened a couple of these playoff games really delivered the lakers were in control for most of game to, against nugget they were up by 20 in the third quarter, but denver just kept chipping away and chipping away things in large part to the play of jamal murray after missing 13 of his four 16, he had 14 of his 20 points in the fourth quarter and none of them bigger than that right there a step back, fadeaway jumper over anthony davis at the buzzer to give his team the one-to-one 99 when& n2o series leads to the nuggets have now won ten straight games against so lakers is they had to la, for game three on thursday i told my team is like a mom and look for you. >> he looked for you. and every single one of them told me to keep shooting. i had to both two seconds, nothing i knew once i made a couple the next one should go down as well. i'm thankful enough that i was one of the few that wind down

for me. >> can you take us through that last play and just what happened, what unfolded, what was i don't know if you were screened or what happened in that last play. >> you're walmart and later saw no shortage of drama in the sixers knicks game at madison square garden, new york, count by five. and the final 30 seconds. before one of the most incredible come back and play up history. jalen brunson, three-pointer from the corner, bounces on the ribbon, falls in cutting it to two and then later, josh heart would steal the ball from tyrese naxi, get the ll back for the next nte div and shinzo, s. a threpointer for thlead, but the knicks, some how mintry abbed the rebounevtually get the bulb back into his sans. and this time he can to give new york the le they would hold onto when 10411. but the plot thickens re. philly coach nick nurse as he was actually tryg to call a time-out before the sixers in boundethe ball, but says that his request went unanswered by the officials i call time-out

referee looked right at me ignored me one end of diaries are called time-out again note may lay started. >> then yeah, i mean, i'm not i guess i got to run out onto the floor or do something to make sure and get his attention? >> three more games on the schedule tonight, phoenix in minnesota, getting things started at 7:30 eastern on our sister channel tnt, the pacers are in milwaukee and the mavericks and clippers have the nightcap at ten and you can catch that one on tnt as well. and lastly, for you, yankees manager aaron boone finding himself ejected from yesterday phase game against the a's for what turned out to be absolutely nothing okay so

check it out. you can see the yelling towards the dugout. it was actually a fan in the stands who first did that talking boon just standing there and took the warning. and then when the fan started to haeckel again, the umpire thought it was boon who piped up and tossed him out of the game. i feel like john, this is when you have an older brother or sister and they say something and then you end up getting caught for it. it goes like that sometimes i hope i knew the person is standing behind him like that. who got eric booth thrown out it gives me some ideas. >> not that look, no one can afford the seats. >> if there are any achy state, even least behind the dug out there, but, uh, but again, that is something to see, caroline, man. thank you so much for that. >> john was the one causing the trouble, not the one that got get into trouble is where my sympathies lie, but not with aaron boots. >> fair enough this morning, what is the secret to living to 105 years old or wisconsin woman has cracked the code catherine seaberg known at her senior living facility as ms

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competition and drive up prices for us consumers. >> the blue milk that luke skywalker drank in star wars or as we'll soon be available in grocery stores just in time for may which is al known as star wars day because may the fourth be with you? it's also my father's birthday. >> preously, the milk was only available in disney parks. we are told the blue milk tastes like chicken know, vanilla. vanilla tastes like vanilla the royal family released a new photo this morning of prince louis on his sixth birthday. he is the youngest child with the prince and princess of wales. this is the first florida the family his released since the photo editing scandal last month a royal source says this pho is not edited. our photo desk is taking a close look at so crews just broke ground on a high-speed rail line that will travel up to 200 miles per hour and shuttle at least 11 million people a year between las vegas and so on. we are in california at least bassett projection y.

>>o today mark200 days nce hamas terrorists launched their attack on israel, sparking the bloody war that is still pling out. the idf repos conducting 25 airstrikes igaza over the hia building neagaza city, demolishing the top the oors are seeg some video there. n, last night, protesters marked the beginning primministerenjamin aeli netanyahu's residenturging him anhis government to do more to bring home the remaining hostes who a still ing being held there in gaza c's matthew chance h much me for us from jerusam. matthew, what'the ve latt well, the latest is that the ce. there has beemo bodie exhumed from mass grave. the gaza strip. palestinian officialwho are exhung the bodiesthey're sing they fod another 35 palestinian people that were buried there. it brings to 310 and the number

of bodies that have been taken out of it so far. now, to clarify, what we've learned from our staff members on the grou in the gaza strip is that these individuals, these bodies were buried by their families. they were killed as a sult of israeli military action for the most part inside the gaza strip over the course of the past several months, it's all happening around a hospital in khan yunis, which is a city in gaza to the south of the gaza strip. the bodies were buried, there temporarily. what's happened is the israeli forces came in to search for hostages and to conduct their operations against hamas militants following the october because seventh attacks and they dug up these graves to test whether any of them were with israeli hostages. and then they read, buried them in a collective grave. and so that's that's the origin of this, of this mass grave. nevertheless, it is pretty disturbing, sort of graphic details coming out of that region. this of course, as you

mentioned, 200 days since the october 7 attacks, also the start of passover. it's meant to be a time of celebration for jewish people. of course, but this year it's tinge with grief and sadness at the fact that there are stillo many people kild 200 days ago, of course, but still more tn 130 people, israelis missing, believed to be held hostage inside the gaza strip.& as you say, more pressure, more requests, more demands? for the israeli government to do more to get them freedom matthew chance. >> tha you. as always for your reporting, matthew. donarump heads to new york a city courtroom presidentiden. the next couplof hours headg to tampa, florida, where a focus on abortion rights. the biden campaign believes florida is up f grabs, espially over restrictive reproducon right issues. the biden was in the battleound, pennsylvia, iltrump wagoing rough ry selection, enirginia on the first day of ump's criminal hh moy tria and

as the first week of tesmony conclus, cnn whiteouse joining me nowwhat are we expecting frthis particular trip will say i president biden is hoping to use thitrip to florida to once again tie former president donald trump too restrictive abortion laws across the country. >> it comes as the campaign has expressed, some optimism about their chances in florida, which is typically gone republican in recent ten years, but specifically over a law that is set to go effect that would ban abortions at s weeks. governor ron desantis signs that law back last year. cot and it adds to the preme restrictive abortion laws th have been passed across the south. and in otheparts the country,he kansas pain has long believed that the issue of reproductive rights could be a galvanizing issue for voters heading into november and they e hoping at wilbe the ce in orida as well. the state

supreme court, there also is allowing for a vote in november on a ballot initiative, which would in trying to access to abortion in e states constitution, there are similar measures beingonsidered across the country and democrs believe th that could a galvanizing force fomoderate vots, inclung women voters. heading into november's election, that is one of the reasons that the biden campaign is seen some optimism projecting some timism about the state of florida,ut frida really is difficult terrain for democrats if you take a look at the past few elections, former president trump has really widened his margins over his democratic opponents there, including joe biden. it's also a state that can be quite expensive to operate in. so oneig questn going forwd is how much? the biden campaign will be investing in a state le dollars are don't go as far some of the other traditional, a battleground stes, but it all do come at a time when

biden has found an advertising wes, if you take a look at the numbers the mounts thathe demoats and republicans are spending. democrats anden have spent about 27 million in vertising ineven weeks trump about 9 million. so that is one area where the biden campaign continu to hold eight an edge overrump. but in just a few hours we will see the president depart for tampa where he iexpected tmake his case when it comes to reproductive rights, warning of what trump a second term could pose to thcountry, especially when it comes to access to reproductive rights all right, are let sin. >> thank you so much. live there for us from the white house. john overtaken with us now a cnn political commentators bakari sellers and david urba bakari also the author of the new book, the moment out, available in both sces, aza? yesmorning, yet know if that's go so but i might i might have heard about

something. all right. we're gonna talk about the book in just a secd. i want to talk about what president biden is doing going to florida, maybe not a play for florida, but an effort to keep the spotlight on reproductive rights. h much do you expect this from democrats? >> david was giggling a little bit before we came on air. florida is a tough nut to crack fodemocrats,ut i do believe miami-dade broward, those are ars that are ripe if the messaging is corct, i think he needs to go to flida to see i meanwe always have donald tmp does it every year where he ptulates about or every election cycle, what states hcan win. i think flida is in play right now. we'llee what happens, but i think starting in tampa today on this message of abortion, in light of what happened in think is a good strategy. i >> you gotta go. >> is it not surprisingly i'll disagr wh kari and saying that's in play. >> i don't think florida to for democrats to go and show up you've got to play in all 50 states. you kinda have to ke your case. it's i think with tactical move on t biden administration as part to go to florida. well presidt former

president ump's on tal hereo come me the int that he can't be there to defend his home turf. and so it's a little bit of a messaging point, i think as well. >> i do want to ask about the trial since you brought it up we, yo times wrote this trial morning, maggie haberman, othershat apparely donald trump's a little upset. there aren't more trump's supporters outside the courouse greeting him or protesting the times row. it's mr. trump had made no secret of the fact that he wanted a the monstrations have so far l. it tell you?at bt. what does >> i'd y thisn the president should take solace. e circus is inside the courtroom, right and so it's it's cold. you see r colleagues outside fezing out there, right with heaters, it's i've been watching him so i do't think he should he should be conservative with the concern whene did rally most recently in pennsylvania a few eks upporters ning the route to the from the from the airport to the events site to

three deep the hallway. i wouldn't be too conrned. there are pele not sndg outsida courm waiting to see him come o. you n't need mto see home t because gs outside? if the car ickly e coentionalism zolan, ts energizes as be energizes as bas where's that but it's new york citto jot it's not ke, you know, i mean, i think that the president is having a real life kindf come to jesus moment right now he, is struggling with the fact that he is being treated as a criminal defendant. >> i'm a crimin defense lawyer and my clientgo through this all the time and he's going rough this now anwhen he's found guilty or if he's found guilty, i'd be another slap in the face. >> so you're not just a criminal defense lawyer, you aral an author? i am. but bestselling authorendorsed by dad urban in this book, there's a really interesting chaptesure every chapter i interesting, but on black men, yes. and how the democratic party has an issue. yes, right now th you see with black men, what is that issue? and

what's the prescription? the solvent. so in the book i talked about the untapped power of black menn for very long period of time, i mean, we we've given black women their flowers and deservedly so they are the largest demographic of people that vote for the democratic party, the second largest democratic demographic or black men and we just have not paid attention to it. >> and there has been slippage. and so as a black man in this country, it's very difficult to walk outside and a place where you're not luck i've done to deal with the struggles of trying to provide for your family and protect your family and protect yourself and so in this chapter, i tried to give an oh to those who have given what abraham lincoln called the last given the highest angels of our nature and describe the pain that, that it feels sometimes to go outside and have to be yourself every single day. and so this book is for me, it was, it was a love to write the pages in that book. hopefully, people will read in that chapter. hopefully people will pay attention to and david robb, politics and 30

seconds or less, republicans have notice that they can make some inroads with black man. >> listen, i think that the precarious point, right? republicans are trying for the first time they're trying are trying to message to working class people of color whether they are black, brown right there, you're saying, look, we've got we've got some solutions and also on some social issues. i think that republicans are kind of taken taken some votes away. so we'll see, we're making a bid for it. hopefully, you know, we get more and more people of color to come to our side and we eat away at the democratic margin. >> davidai, great to see you this morning i sell his great to see you and congratulations on the new book and waiting on a, waiting on the autobiography of john berman it's more of a pamphlet or the by the biography green cape. illustrated guy a cautionary tale already gave it. thanks. thanks a new era of cnn newsroom starts now