the sympathy for protesters build the size of protests and also increase the voice of more extreme activists in to horrific episodes. the vietnam era, violence turned deadly in may 1970 on the campus of state university, ohio national guard troops opened fire on student protesters, killing four of them. and injuring several others. days later, during racial injustice protests at jackson state college in mississippi, police fired at a dormitory, killing two students and injuring a dozen others, possibly a closer comparison to what's going on now took place in the 1980s when students across america protested against apartheid in south africa, they called on schools to divest themselves from companies and groups that supported the apartheid regime in south africa, much like students are now calling on colleges to divest themselves from israeli linked companies rarely we talk about boycott divestment and sanctions. that's what it was. we're

going to use a nonviolent peaceful resistance. >> another dynamic that hasn't >> hasn't changed across these arrows of protest. >> they've got a lot of energy and they're idealistic government's handling of it, wolf ryan taught at george washington university here in washington. thanks very much. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room. thanks very much for watching do's continuous next, on sienna tonight are three 60 bodycam footage. >> you'll see first on three 60 of new york police moving in on protesters at columbia university that a new details from can fill the vargas jones who brought us exclusive reporting last night from campus as it all went down. also tonight, live reports from

coast-to-coast is protests spread to more schools with communities and please struggling over how to respond and with his trial and recess today, the former president goes campaigning, trying to make student unrest of issue. good evening. thanks for joining us. we begin again tonight with the latest from university campuses nationwide, where in just the last 24 hours, hundreds of demonstrators have been arrested. the lion's share at new york's columbia university late last night last night we brought you an exclusive look as it happened from cnn's julia vargas jones and our photographer, we're the only television crew who broadcasting live from campus. now tonight, another exclusive seen as john miller himself, a former new york deputy police commissioner, is the first and only reported to obtain nypd body cam video from officers as they carried out the operation last night? he joins us now. so i haven't seen the video tell us about it. well, you know, we've been talking past 24 hours about according to columbia university's president, a protester snuck into the building and then hit

there till after the building was closed. and then covertly lead in dozens of other people who then took over the building barricaded it with an elaborate network and layers of debris and furniture and chains and lots and bicycle locks and smashed all the security cameras. so police to retake that building really have their work cut out for them. and this is their video from their bodycam of going in to hamilton hall. >> let's take a look the retaking of hamilton hall by the nypd at the front door, students singing a protest song the first layer, a tangle of barricades metal tables, and chairs stacked and tied to the doorway outside police break a window through a vestibule,

more furniture and debris the door changed shut police use a high powered electric saw then a hydraulic tool, the jaws the life in an attempt to breach the door, but it wouldn't budge not. >> finally, they break through in fronted by another tangling layers of furniture chains, and metal grading police said unable to see beyond the barricades, they deploy distraction devices upon entry with loud bangs and blinding flashes the disorient anyone

who might have posed a threat it took six minutes and 40 seconds to reach the layers of barricades, to reach the protesters who had been holding the building has one protester appears to advance towards police, a second protester wrestles him to the ground police reach a stairwell and advance upwards through the building finding more locks jane's barricades. but no more protesters and you just got some new information from the nypd about who they arrested licensing. so the rest about 40 people that were in that first floor of the building and they have now taken that identification of the 40 people their names, pedigree, and provided that to columbia university. so the university

can determine how many of these people were students, how many, if any, were not students, and where they were from i just want to bring in columbia graduate student and cnn reported julia vargas jones, who brought us exclusive reporting from campus, just steps away from hamilton hall as police winning and then julia, first of all, you and your photographer did a great job who is your photographer's name? cream kataib in. okay you guys did a great job last night. what you did this on like your cell phone. i know your battery was dying. this one? yeah. that was it. the broken one. broken screen. yeah. well, we appreciate it so what is it like seeing that i'm you were on the outside and getting that. >> you saw that that line that we're just seeing that for the first time. >> well right when that started, we couldn't see any of that. right. so they push us out and i was live with you at the time. they pushed us out about at least 50 yards and there was blockage and await. we couldn't see anything that was happening aside from police leinz and leinz police officers going past the now the bleachers for the graduation

event that's coming up in a couple weeks and then coming back on the other side. so we had we were in this blind spot, but we didn't know from being there all day that there was a lot of stuff just keeping police from entering as well as a few dozen students on the outside. now, i'm interested in that number of about 40 people inside because we really didn't know how many people were the protesters. um, you were out there? they weren't really talking to anybody with a camera who was there. not just anybody with the camera, even student press. it was really difficult gold and i think in their attempt to protect their identities, to try and remain anonymous, i think that ended up crania big barrier for us to just get some of the basic information out. >> i want to play johnson sound from the new york police department, deputy commissioner of intelligence, intelligence and counterterrorism. let's listen these students don't come in the doors knowing how to barricade themselves behind

barriers that they've created. >> these are all skills that are taught and learned and that presents a problem yesterday, new york's mayor had talked about outside agitators. that is there may be people from outside. we don't know the makeup of the people inside the building yet. the outside agitators is kind of a common trope also used against protesters in past decades. frankly, going back for a long time, is it clear who the people in the building we were they all students were some of them outsiders. do we know? >> so they're still going through that, but i think what the mayor was talking about was an extraordinarily well known national figure in the protest movement. lisa fithian, 63 year-old protest organizer from austin, texas part of occupy wall street, part of occupy city hall, part of so many protests, seattle across the country arrived at columbia on monday afternoon that was just

before they took that building she's on video helping students with a table that they are using a barricade, the door. so the question that the nypd was looking at is, as this encampment on the west lawn was losing steam did a professional organizer come in and say, if you want to have an impact, you need disruption. now, lisa fithian for the record, talked to us. it's cnn and said, we weren't there to take over the building that just happened. but the question that the deputy commissioner for intelligence my former job of rebecca weiner raises is where did they suddenly get this idea? and all the tactics and techniques for the kind of bear when you see this video, i mean, what stands out to you is, as we watch it, what stands out to me is this was this was extraordinarily well planned and not something that they

would have thought of on their own based on the tactics and techniques they used. >> entering the building having an agent hide inside, then breaking all the security cameras to cut off the view of i mean, there is a history of taking over buildings. columbia going back going back to 1968, they help people hostage. and in fact, in 1968, hamilton hall, this was the first building they took over the police response was a lot more violent and aggressive in terms of how the students and police fought there in this case, it just seemed that they're negotiations reached an impasse. and the coincidental arrival of a national person who trains protesters is something that caught authorities attention until it what's campus like today would or production been line it's quite a different scene, anderson, it's it was quiet, it was eerie there weren't a lot of students and campus, as

you know, not many students there were allowed in general. >> and when we feel live there for your essential staff, so it was weird to see campus. so empty, so close to finals, i mean, at 10:00 a.m. usually it's packed before late for class. there's life, but classes are done now. it's now people studying for finals there are still classes. >> i am still in classes, but now they're all on zoom right? and everything is digital now. and then there is something that struck me this morning as i as i walked outside of pulitzer hall, was seeing the marks of the tense that they left on the lawn. i'm sure you've seen that picture of just that that's to me, it was kind of a poetic scar of a columbia has been through in the past few weeks and especially in the past graduation ceremonies when may 15th, because that would obviously be targeted for protesters if they've they've asked police to stay on campus because i think what columbia has experiences they cleared that west lawn once before. that's where they have the commencement. and now it's okay. we've taken the ground

again. we've taken the building back. now we need to hold it between now and commencement. >> john miller. thank you. julia vargas jones. thank you so much. appreciate it. >> coming up next to los angeles where there wasn't a violent incident on the ucla campus involving israel supporters and anti-israel demonstrators after which classes were canceled two they soon as nick watt is there for us tonight, so what's been the reaction, what happened last night anderson, people are shocked and stunned by what happened last night. >> the college spokesperson said this, that they are sickened by the senseless violence. and it must end. >> i spoken to some jewish students it's here who were also shocked. the protestors themselves listen they are very rightly rattled by what happened, but they are determined to stave during the day today, they've actually been reinforcing these barricades behind me, which is exactly where this incident happened last night take a look at just what happened here late

night into the early morning at ucla counter-protestors, pro israel protesters, among them, some clearly not students breach the barricades around a pro-palestine standing and cabinet a firecracker thrown in cones and more flying through the darkness, pepper spray from inside that tamp. >> the college newspaper photographed at counter protester spraying from an aerosol can daily bruin reporters on the scene were slapped an indirectly sprayed with irritants absolutely detestable violence said, la's mayor karen bass, you see officials say 15 injured, one hospitalized, and they promise an independent external review ever since this encampment sprang up thursday morning, tension has been mounting. the first scuffles thursday afternoon more over the weekend the barriers and the buffer zone that was breached last night, the university has allowed the protesters to control who enters the camera monday a jewish student posted this protesters well, outside

of their encampment, he says blocking his way. >> they're not letting me walk in. my class is over there. i want to use it that entrance ucla called this a part current and remove those barriers then last night, this love to dance that's what happened last night was an attack on our encampment by zionists thugs that the university did nothing to stop this morning at university of wisconsin madison law enforcement did get involved campus let's police clashing with protesters while clearing a pro-palestinian encampment for law enforcement officers were injured. >> dozens of protesters arrested. >> they started pushing them. they started shoving them students were held down with pitons. >> most work released without citations. college officials say it's unclear how many were affiliated with the school they say some resisted arrest and say peaceful protest that abides by campus rules are still alive. >> just no tents. we are grateful that our protesters are still here and they are

exercising their first amendment right back at ucla today. >> much more law enforcement on site and all classes are canceled. the buffer zone between the encampment and everyone else has expanded to about half the length of a football field. this afternoon, just outside the barrier. faculty in solidarity with the pro palestinians, shame on you shouted down by pro is real healy protesters. just a couple of faculty and students from either side trying to find even a sliver of common ground so were. there no campus police at the very least at that location last night. and has the police response last night or lack of have been viewed by the community? there there were very few campus security here and they frankly didn't do much. and there has been a lot of criticism of the response governor gavin newsom posted this morning, the limited and delayed campus law enforcement

response at ucla last night was unacceptable and demands, answers. we've asked for answers we're still waiting for them. ucla says that they're carrying out an internal investigation, gathering information, but listen whatever college administrators do, they're going to get criticized. you see what happened at columbia last night at wisconsin this morning where they go in heavy-handed, they get criticized. you see what happened here. they hang back, they get criticized. but there is now a very different posture. i'm looking at about a dozen lapd officers there. we've had california highway patrol here all day lapd choppers circling around so they are clearly they've clearly learned a lesson from last night and they do not want that to happen again. but right now, the reality here, anderson is, you've got protesters in there who were scared. you've got jewish students out on the campus who were scared. no one is happy and there doesn't seem to be any end in sight either the president of the whole uc system today said that they we'll clear this encampment, but only at the appropriate

time now, i don't know what that means and the commencement the main commencement events here aren't until the middle of june, so the uc system is saying we will not divest, which is the demands of the protesters, the protestors saying they will not leave. so what do you you've got you've got classes canceled and you've got dozens, if not hundreds. now, of officers on this campus trying to keep an uneasy peace and no one feels safe and no one's happy. and doesn't require. thank you. appreciate it. next to the former president in blaming the current one for campus on raffa, what voters make of that issue and others with new numbers from cnn's harry enten later, the next strange twist and republican marjorie taylor greene's push to unseat the republican speaker and house when with democrats may do to help him. actually keep his job. that's it. >> you let me just say, i love planet fitness, trying to apply it if it isn't dang, they got lots of equipment. >> did you know that the p of app has workout you can do at home all the benefits.

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go out and talk about it and talk to the people crooked joe is now reportedly planning. this is wonderful news for you, people in wisconsin, did bring massive numbers of gazans from the middle east well, live to your american towns, your towns and villages is just determined to create the conditions for an october 7 style attack right here in america that last bit refers to discussion for puerto by cbs news about bringing a limited number of people from gaza with close american relatives into the country. not massive numbers as the former president was saying, and it's not administration and policy yet from wisconsin, the form president went to freeland michigan. cnn's kristen holmes is therefore, tonight's the prison just wrapped up remarks in michigan, what more do it? what more can you tell us well, anderson in his one day out of the courtroom, he spent did here in michigan railing against that new york hush money trial complaining about the gag order and attacking the judge. >> all of this, of course, just one day after that, judge, find

him $9,000 for violating the gag order in the first place, he has another gag order for hearing tomorrow. now, you mentioned some of what he said in wisconsin. i want to point out two other notable moments. one, he said that people were thrilled at the overturning of roe v. wade. >> this is particularly notable given what today is it as a day that that six-week abortion ban was put into effect in florida. >> florida is something that people are not over for whelming lee thrilled with the other thing that he mentioned was something that had been deeply reported, but to my knowledge he had never said in detail was about january 6. he actually confirmed the reporting that when he got into his car that day after his rally, he told the secret service to take him down to the capital. he wanted to see what was going on and they told me could not go these again, were things that we had not heard all the way into that detail before. >> it's also telling that his first day of rallies during this trial has meant in michigan and wisconsin, both states that he lost, but the races there we're very close

yeah. >> he wanted 2016 lost in 2020. and if you talk to any of his advisers, they call the must-win states and they really acknowledged that he's probably going to have to win those two states if he wants to go back to the white house, you're going to see him here a lot more. they are trying to find voters outside of his base to court. they believed that his voters will show up his base will show up no matter what, but what they're going to do here for strategy is tried to find voters who maybe have a preference or have thought about voting for donald trump and bring them out to the polls in november, housing been spending the bulk of this time when he's not in the courtroom well a lot of it is complaining that he should be on the campaign trail, but this is really the first time that we had seen him do events even today, he said he had to do two events today because he wasn't the courtroom. >> but this is the first time we've actually seen that. no, no, it's not all because of his own issues. we know that there was a weather issue at a rally, uh, two weeks ago, but besides that here his had dinners at trump tower. he wouldn't played golf at bedminster. he has held fundraiser after fundraiser, and they have had some local

campaign stops, politically motivated, stopped to a bodega. he also went and spoke to a union workers of construction workers trying to chip away at biden's working class voter all in new york. so he could stay there because he has two for the trial. now, when it comes to next week and the week after, we know this weekend, he's going to be at florida for the rnc's spring were treat but after that, we don't know what actual events he has. he has one rally in a saturday, next wednesday on clear unclear what he's going to be doing around his court days. we do know he does have a series of fundraisers at least two weeks from now on a wednesday, he has to fundraisers back-to-back and kristen holmes. >> thank you. as kristen mentioned, the form president weighed in on abortion today, this comes as florida's six-week abortion ban went into effect, as kristen said, and vice president harris in jacksonville made sure to put a return address on it. >> i'll trump was the president who took away the protections of wrote because of donald trump, more than 20 states have abortion bans. trump abortion ban from

abortion ban to trump abortion ban former president donald trump did this a second trump term would be even worse. trump wants us to believe he will not sign a national ban if donald trump gets the chance, he will sign a national abortion ban. this truly is a health care crisis and donald trump is the architect so with one side highlighting abortion is one voting issue and the other side leaning into student unrest. >> the question is, what kind of a punch does each carry with voters here with some numbers, senior data reporter harry enten. so when you look at issues like abortion law and order, israel-hamas war, who to voters prefer button yeah, i will tell you president biden is praying, praying to the electoral gods that the 2024 election is about abortion. it is a rare issue on which voters favorite him over former president trump. it's a double-digit advantage. he does not want this election to be

about law and order, where donald trump holds a double well digit advantage. he does not want it to be about the israel-hamas war were again, trump holds the advantage and more than that, it divides the democratic base between older democrats were more favorable towards israel and younger democrats who are more favorable towards the palestinians. and obviously he doesn't want the election to be about the economy either, which is another, of course, important issue she so what a voter say are the most important issues right now? yeah. so if you look at it, i don't think it's a big surprise that donald trump is trying to turn the israel-hamas war into a crime issue, into a law and order issue. why it's because if you look, the israel-hamas war in terms of voters who say it's extremely important, your 2024 vote, it's only 26%, a considerably higher portion of the electorate, say crime is important, right? and that's of course an issue in which donald trump, houlton edge. now obviously, joe biden wants to have this election about abortion. but again, that comes in under, comes in under crime, and more than that, i mentioned the economy that actually is

the number one issue that's more than 60% of voters say that's extremely really important to their 2024 vote. so basically anderson, if you're looking at the top issues those match up much more highly with the issues that donald trump does well on. and compared to abortion, which of course ranks lower down. >> and when it goes to the israel-hamas war, where does that compare to other conflicts? yeah. so we were talking before before we came on here and i mentioned the vietnam war and the protests. a lot of people, especially who are pro-palestinian for these protests, want to make comparisons. the vietnam war and those protests, right? but if you look at the polling, americans do not see them on anywhere near the same level back in 1968, if you ask, what was the most important problem? number one was the vietnam war that was well under the 40s. you look now at the most important problem. you know what the israel-hamas war ranks. it ranks 17th on the list of issues, just 2% of americans say that's the most important problem right now. so these are just not anywhere on the same level, despite the fact that many on the

pro-palestinian sayyed want to put on the same level as the vietnam war protests harry enten, thanks very much. thank you. coming up, congresswoman marjorie taylor greene says next week, she'll pull the trigger on a vote to oust house speaker johnson. now republicans don't sound thrilled, but the question is, will democrats actually come to speaker johnson's aid? we'll talk to a top house democrat next rose sparks engineered for the spontaneous, a dual action formula with the active ingredients of viagra and sialic faster acting and

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there's a problem. >> she doesn't have the votes. >> bless her heart i think this is all about wanting more attention and not producing actual results from 90% of us finally disgusting, retire the chaos retired or they had arche gets the wrong move at the wrong time by the long people. this is a distraction. and i think it's a mistake. would they one vote margin? johnson lacks the votes to stay in power with gop support alone, but democrats, plaintiffs save him in next week's vote. >> this is unprecedented that somebody's foe in leadership, the leadership of the democratic party, would offer to save the leader of the republican party, top democrats praise johnson for cutting the series of bipartisan deals including advancing 61 billion in aid to ukraine, even though it enraged the right wing, it's time to end this chapter of pro putin obstruction. it's

a shift from almost seven months ago with democrats voted with eight republicans to make kevin mccarthy the first ever speaker ousted and the floor, kevin mccarthy guys, voted him out why not? what's different now, i think what we saw with former speaker mccarthy was he wanted to blame democrats the entire time. i just agree with speaker johnson and a number of ways but he lived up to his commitments to put this bill on the floor. >> liberal democrats are objecting. >> i certainly will not be voting to support mike johnson. >> we can't continue to do this every time they want to they want to do that vacate the speaker. yet johnson has the support of gop congressman matt gaetz, who led the charge to oust mccarthy, i think in an election year right now, it probably doesn't portend it too well. >> gop critics agree, are you going to support them? >> very troubled by the

leadership we've seen where you haven't had conservative leadership i don't think the timing sorry for that. >> but republicans worry greene's effort will hurt their chances. in november, we have to understand this is not a junior high school reality television show. everything that we do in the house of representatives should be in the best interest of getting donald trump re-elected this guy right here monarch joins us now from capitol hill. >> so how does the former president factor into this? >> yeah, actually this is a rare situation when there has been some daylight between marjorie taylor greene and the former president acts in fact, donald trump is a publicly thanks plus some support from my johnson, especially when they're down in mar-a-lago together, trump also did not come out and flatly opposed that $61 billion in aid to ukraine. and he also has indicated he has some concerns, but moving down the road of vacating the speakership. but nevertheless, marjorie taylor greene has gotten another route i've put the question twice, de about whether she's doing this in defiance of donald

trump. first, she put on her maga hands and there's no bigger supported that her then they have donald trump than her. and then later tonight, i asked her about the concerns from a number of trump allies if this got hurt down, trump's ability to take back the white house. and she said, quote, mike johnson is hurting our efforts to win. she said mike johnson is absolutely destroying our efforts to have the majority in november. so you can see anderson, she's still pressing ahead. the question is if and when this fails next week, that she continued to try to force a vote. she did not answer that question earlier today mano, thanks very much. >> as you heard, democrats are divided about whether they would assist speaker johnson just prefer airtime. i spoke to democratic congressman eric swalwell about the feelings inside his caucus curzon swalwell. i appreciate you joining us. where do you stand on this? do you think democrats should save speaker johnson job next week? >> it's not about speaker johnson's job. it's about doing the job every day that americans expect us to do, which is to get things done. so to pay our bills and lift the debt ceiling to avoid

government shutdowns to help keep ukraine in the fight. and on all of those votes, the majority of the votes came from democrats. and so if chaos agents like marjorie taylor greene and others want to just send us an descend us back into chaos at the expense of getting things done i do agree with our democratic leadership that we should avoid that. whether we are in charge of the house are not getting things done on has to be the priority so i want to play something that marjorie taylor greene said about house democrats and speaker johnson earlier today mike johnson is not capable of that job. he has proven it over and over again. now we have hakeem jeffries and the democrats coming out embracing mike johnson with a warm hug and a big wet, sloppy kiss. >> so congresswoman green and congressman massey, who is also supporting the effort to oust

johnson, are saying that this will provide voters with a list of members who stand with the speaker going into elections, you're running for reelection this year. are you worried about losing votes if, if you save speaker johnson's job? >> effectively? >> no, i promised i'd promised from the very beginning, when i went to congress, died work with anyone who wanted to work with me to get things done. and i think that's the mindset of our leadership. and if marjorie taylor greene wants to say that democrats are embracing speaker johnson with a warm hug. it's not so much that as we are issuing a state in a way order to marjorie taylor greene and the other chaos agents who are seeking to just bring this place to a standstill is there's so many issues that we have to work on it. we're not going to agree on everything. was speaker johnson certainly. but on the priorities that i just laid out earlier avoiding shutdowns, paying our bills, helping ukraine, where there's consensus we will continue to deliver on it. i mean, what does it say to you that so many of your house colleagues on both sides of the aisle are tired of the drama and the

chaos and actually agree that green is basically wreaking havoc in congress it's not a bad thing. and i hope that it leads to us taking on more issues. >> the select committee on china, a bipartisan effort put out a lot of recommendations on what we can do to counter china. and i hope again, we find ways to work together on that and bring that legislation to the floor. we have a potential shutdown again in september, and so we'll need to work together to avoid that. it actually feels good to vote with republicans for the sake of the country. rather than partisan politics that the marjorie taylor greene's and the donald trump's would rather see us engaging. yeah it does even have anybody just take the speaker's job as even clear, who she has in mind there's no one who could win on the republican side. again, they just want chaos and hakeem jeffries has essentially been the functional speaker and the

case will have to make to the voters is that he should be the formal speaker because he had that's kept us the united. he has collaborated when it means getting things done. and we can't give the keys to government back to many of these individuals who will, again, just gum up the works because they'd rather have the fame then doing anything to help people that represent coachman eric swalwell. thank you. >> coming. i pleasure coming up protests unfolding on yet another new york campus in an instrument of prokupecz is there for us tonight, also the question we've been asking every ever since these demonstrations began. just who's taking part some answers at one university, at least ahead the code's not working. >> that's really needs to pay. >> we're gonna get an a minute. okay representative meanwhile at a vrbo, when other vacation rentals leave you hanging, try one where you can reach a human in about a minute. >> this mango hint water tastes just like mango how can water

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there anderson, a very large crowd gathered here outside an encampment. actually that the university has on canvas i am very large encampment on the university property. and what's really interesting here is that there's actually nyu security that is guarding the encampment. he kept me and making sure that only and students are entering the encampment quite different from what we saw the other night when we went to the university of pennsylvania in philadelphia to try and figure out exactly who's behind some of these protests, who's attending them who sleeping in the encampment's. and here's what we found the campus at the university of pennsylvania is open to the public you guys are students here are they students

are. i don't think so. >> do you work for the school or thank you for more than a week the encampment has grown tents filled with people, but who are they i'm asking the suspicion runs both ways i don't know. >> are you on what cnn? >> hi. now, we we're just asking people are you were seeing one man who was showing his faces, having a tough time with the crowd here. this man, sole supporter of israel, he's actually not even from israel. >> he's not israel he's not do she is actually christian, but he said he felt the need to come out here voiced support for israel. so what's interesting every time he speaks, at every time, he says something group here they follow him around they put this blue tarp behind him and they tried or interrupt what he's saying so they're bringing out the speaker now to try and

drown now now what out, what he's saying now they have the speaker out we spot a person named charlotte waving the flag of a terrorist organization. >> the popular front for the liberation of palestine. >> where was that flag that you are carrying? not wondering, i understand. but what was what was what was that flag you were counting? >> i don't do you know that that's lag that you were carrying is a terrorist organization are you aware of that? >> you were waving charlotte? charlotte, you were waving a very proudly charlotte they don't want to speak with us and flee before we can ask any more questions. you're not a student, right? >> okay. and he's not a student no. okay. so how come you're here if you're not students? >> we're supporting. okay. but this is supposed to be for students, right it, this is i'm just curious, that's what i thought, but it seems like yes, people. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> you know, suiting here at

this at this school could be a could be not. okay. when you're first he said no, so i don't know. >> i'm just that's a question for the cops when they come out okay. >> are you a student here do you know are you as students here? no. okay. >> you've been camping out here on campus and you're not a student. >> look, there's a lot of peters law let community members who so was it clear to you what percentage of that group was actually students at upenn? no, it wasn't clear. >> most of the people anderson that i spoke to were actually not students. >> there were a few students, but most of them were outside the encampment. >> and every time i try to talk to them, they would refuse to speak to me as he saw there, but no, it wasn't clear pen is a very open campus. there any entrances and an out of the campus. >> so people can easily just come on campus. >> but the police are there. there's really no one asking

any questions and they're just allowed to remain in this it's a can't been up there are some hostility towards some other jewish j. who had an approach, approach. >> the encampment. and you could just tell that there was a certain tension in there. >> the longer we stay, the more tense it became. and really was quite different than any of the other encampments that i had been to like at columbia certainly, this one here at nyu it's just quite different in trying to ask people questions about who they simply were and they just refuse to speak to us some of prokupecz appreciate it. >> thank you for next on the war at the center of these demonstrations and how it's being waged. we've got an update on a deadly israeli airstrike in gaza. we told you about just two weeks ago, a young girl named sure. head, one of ten children killed while playing outside, or jeremy diamond have been trying to get answers from the the idf, from the israeli military. now, they've finally responded what they are saying and not

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that remains of the daughter, mona poured everything into there is no shah had now every time she came in, she said mom, i would say my soul, my so my soul has gone through shaheds was one of ten children killed when an israeli airstrike hit the crowded street and the almohads, you refugee camp where she was playing with her friends for pink pants impossible to miss among the small bodies splayed around a foosball table in the chaotic aftermath two weeks later, the israeli military still won't take responsibility for the strike that killed her cnn provided the idf with the coordinates and time of the attack based on metadata from two different phones in the immediate aftermath the idf said they did not have a record of that strike they said they carried out a strike at a different time than described

and that the collateral damage as described in the query theory is not known to the idf. the idf makes great efforts to mitigate harm to the civilian population from areas were strikes are being carried out evidence recovered, and documented by cnn at the scene of the strike paints. a very different picture of israeli military responsibility this circuit board and bits of shrapnel walls and shops steps distinctively pockmarked, and a small crater barely a foot wide all pointing three munitions experts to the same conclusion carnage was likely caused by a precision guided munitions deployed by the israeli military of saying these stripes so many times, those are relatively small crater in the road there's no large shrapnel holes fragmentation holds it would have been which one would have been caused by, say, a mortar round on artillery the fragmentation is consistent. >> so when you review this

strike was caused by a precision guided drone fired missile absolutely. >> this is an israeli militia. the local militias, a local forces do not have anything with this amounted sophistication before carrying out the strike, israeli drones would have surveil the alma ghazi refugee camp from above seconds. later the missile hits the street below, landing in the middle of the road, just a few feet away from the foosball table, were shot ahead and her friends were playing. that de delivering certain death against all odds. these children have returned to play at the very same food because ball table, including some of shaheds, friends i miss her a lot. some says wearing a necklace shy had made her. what she says she was nearly killed with her friends going home moments before the strike to drink water others were not as lucky eight year-old ahmed is fighting for his life bleeding from his brain, his skull,

fractured his chances of surviving are slim. his doctor explains he is fighting not to become the 11th child killed in that same strike jeremy diamond joins us now from jerusalem the idea that the kids are now playing that exact same spot on the foosball it's just, it's horrific. jeremy to be clear, you've been pressing the idf for answers about the strike for two weeks they still can't locate this specific strike into records this frankly, understand this idea of statement raised more questions than it answered. >> the israeli military says, yes, there was a strike, but that it wasn't at the time that we have provided based on the metadata from the phones, based on eyewitnesses, and they're not aware. they say of anyone being killed. and nowhere in that statement, anderson did they pledged to investigate this to look into a

strike that killed ten children. the evidence we've collected is now out there for the world to see. and i certainly hope that these really military will reconsider and investigate this shot head lujain yusuf and the seven other children who were killed in the strike. i think they certainly deserve that minimum. >> so they're not saying the israeli military is not saying there was a target in this area. and therefore, that's why they're right they're just they're just not acknowledging that there was a strike at all they say that there was a strike at a different time in that same area, but they're not saying what time that strike was what the target of that strike was. >> and they're saying that they're not aware of any casualties. so frankly, that's clearly not the strike that that we have documented here and that we have described to them. so their answer for frankly was was nonsensical at times, it didn't it didn't amount to what we've seen on the ground and what we've documented. and like i said, it just raises more questions than it actually answered. >> jeremy diamond. thank you