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bribes, including gold bars cash, and a luxury luxury car in return for steering us aid to a foreign government and stopping a case against one of the co-defendants. menendez has pleaded not guilty to all charges. and has rejected calls to resign. i will flits her in the situation room. thanks very much for watching. i'll see you tomorrow, 1:00 p.m. eastern for our special live coverage continuing of the trump hush money, criminal trial once again, thanks very much for watching. you can always follow me on x formerly known as twitter, and on instagram at wolf blitzer. the situation room is also available as a podcast wherever you get your podcasts erin burnett out front starts right now
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>> i'd front next quote, just do it. michael cohen testifying, trump ordered him to make the hush money payment to stormy daniel's wasn't enough to prove the prosecution's case today what's breaking? who's this? our israel has amassed enough troops to launch a full-scale invasion into rafah this despite president biden telling out that israel will not get more offensive weapons from the united states if it does that and the mystery is deepening over the little governor who suddenly flying on trump's private jet showing up at rallies and fungi raisers. is he going to be trump's vp? >> let's go out front and good evening. >> i'm erin burnett outfront tonight. it's make or break in the donald trump hush money trial. this is what it comes down to. the crucial testimony of trump's former fixer,
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michael cohen, who finally took the stand today. so i think just 15 feet away from the man that he once said he'd take a bullet for. and the man for whom he actually went to prison for donald j. trump, who cohen without emotion now refers to as mr. trump. now the importance of cohen's testimony and all of this cannot be overstated. this is what the case is all about. >> he is the only person who can testify hi about what is at the heart of the case. >> and that is trump's direct involvement in the alleged conspiracy to falsify the business records in order to pay stormy daniels, not whether the affair happened. none of that falsifying the business records. now the testimony was intense today, cohen rarely looked in the direction of trump. he said the former president than an instructed him to pay daniels $130,000, quote, just do it. he recalled trump saying and just before cohen went to the bank on october 26, he testified that he called trump again. he said, quote, i wanted to ensure that once again, he approved what i
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was doing because i require approval from him on all of this everything required, mr. trump sign off on top of that, i wanted the money back and they pointed to crucial documents showing the call log saying that trump and cohen spoke twice on that day before that llc was set up trunk for the most part, leaned back as cohen spoke, his eyes were closed and now familiar stance by the former president. and i spoke to cohen about this case many times here on this show back in february, he was adamant that his testimony when he took the stand and he has been ready to do so for a long time now, would help convict trump i would say at best it would be a four week case my understanding is that on the trumps sayyed, they only have one witness. maybe there's ten on the prosecution. sayyed, this case could and should be over in a month with the decision and do you have any question about whether he'll be convicted?
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>> oh, i believe that based upon the information that i know and based upon not just the documentary evidence, but the corroborating testimony from so many people i believe that he will be found guilty on all charges no. cohen believes trump will be found guilty on all charges. but keep in mind this was the first time today that those two have been in the same room since trump's civil fraud trial or trump was ordered to pay more than $450 cohen was key then, just like he is key now and this is what cohen told me when i asked him what it was like that time to see trump up close i felt nothing. >> it was so weird that here i am sitting directly across from donald trump and i felt absolutely nothing i looked at him and i said to myself, boy, what a said looking, pathetic, deflated individual. he thought he was going to intimidate harass me with that scowling look and absolutely nothing now
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for months, cohen has been on the attack goading trump, appearing on tiktok. he had called out the president. he was wearing a t-shirt that chose trump behind bars at one point, taking on trump and his supporters here's the funny part. >> yes they don't even they don't even know what it is that they're trolling about when they start trolling that, you know, you're on your under a gag order, right? >> lol you're not no, not i'm i'm not the defendant in any case right now he is not the defendant. >> now. he has more recently been much more reticent in his comments and when the defense is able to cross-examine cohen, though, they are going to come heart, they're going to come card with everything. they've got. keep in mind, cohen is someone who was sentenced to three years in prison after pleading guilty to tax evasion, making false statements to a federally insured bank and campaign finance violations. he says that was of course, all in the furtherance of trump's and
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goals. but is what they're going to hit on cross-examinati on. the question is what the jury will believe, is there a reasonable doubt? paula reid is outfront live outside the new york for courthouse to begin our coverage tonight. as always paulette and intense de on the stand, right? this is what it all comes down to. what michael cohen has to say. the documents that support what he has to say, and the prosecution isn't done with cohen yet. >> that's exactly right, aaron. and so far cohen has come across as quite credible, but they are just at the end of today, beginning to get into the alleged crime, which is the falsifying business records. and then prosecutors are going to have to walk cohen through some pretty uncomfortable material, including his multiple pool convictions and then his years of attacks on the defendant the prosecution's most anticipated witness, michael cohen, taking the stand in donald trump's criminal hush money trial. >> we paid a lawyer a legal
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expense. we believe expense is elite because it's marked down in the book legal expense facing his former boss, cohen spoke about his ten years working as trump's attorney and fixer while trump sat back in his chair closing his eyes, not reacting to cohen's testimony. >> cohen said he enjoyed working for trump and whenever he received direct praise or completing a task, he felt like he was on top of the world. cohen told the court that when trump was mulling are run for the presidency in 2015, trump warned cohen, you know, that when this comes out, meaning the announcement, just be prepared, there's going to be a lot of women coming forward cohen claim that just weeks before the 2016 election, the editor of the national enquirer told cohen stormy daniel's wanted to sell her story about having an affair with trump, which cohen said would have been catastrophic and horrible for trump's campaign. cohen said, trump got angry with him
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when they spoke about the stormy daniels story. i told him that one of the things that we need to do is obviously take care of it. trump allegedly responded absolutely. do it. take care of it. cohen testified that it was his idea to include a punitive damages clause in the daniels deal to ensure that she didn't speak cohen said trump told him to drag the daniels payment out as long as possible. in fact preferably until after the election because if i win, it will have no relevance because i'm president. and if i lose, i don't even care. and he added this damning allegation. he wasn't thinking about melania. this was all about the campaign cohen walked the court through the process of creating several llcs in order to transfer payment to daniels, cohen had to front the money himself and used a home equity line of credit because it was paperless. so he could hide it from his wife. >> i was doing everything i could and more to protect my
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boss which is something that i had done for a long time. >> cohen testified that on october 28, he immediately called trump after daniel sign the agreement, telling him that this matter is now completely under control and locked down. cohen said in early 2017, he tried to get repaid for the money he fronted to daniels i needed trump organization cfo allen weisselberg's input for questions about taxes. cohen said he would be reimbursed over the course of the next 12 months disguising the payment as like a legal service rendered since i was then going to be given the title of personal attorney to the president there's no fraud there's no bryan here cohen will be back on the stand at tomorrow and likely for the rest of this week, which is only three full court days. >> sources telling me that the eventual cross-examination of cohen, which will be done by trump's lead attorney todd
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blanche. it will be as long if not longer than prosecutors direct questioning. aaron. >> we will see what happens here. all right. thank you very much. paula, are experts are all here tonight. a norm. you were in court today. you've been in court every day of this entire trial okay. >> so when they last week, you had said on thursday, there's not quite prove beyond a reasonable doubt, yet of trump's criminal intent. did cohen provide that today aaron cohen took the prosecution across that rubicon that every prosecutor has to cross at some point in a case by describing donald trump's direct personal involvement in both halves of this case. >> remember, it's intent to conceal, cover up, or commit another crime. plus the creation of false documents it's that makes these felony document falsification here cohen did both because he
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explained how donald trump had been intimately involved in directing the campaign alleged campaign finance and election violations and tax violations that came up in depth today. and also we ended the day on the meeting with perhaps the most important evidence in this case, allen weisselberg's handwritten notes, michael cohen's handwritten notes of the grossed up amount gross up, and the meeting with donald trump to confirm it. i don't think anybody in that courtroom believed that michael cohen would have done all that on his own. >> did they provide though the evidence to go along with it that was not just what michael cohen said i think the have it. >> so there's a lot of evidence here in the record and including call logs that are almost impossible to explain. another way. so some of the most important call logs are october 7, the access hollywood tape breaks, october 8th, the national enquirer is trying to do a hush money deal with stormy daniels lawyer. and what do you have in the evening, but
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david pecker having a two-minute conversation with michael cohen within three minutes of that, michael cohen calls donald trump for eight minutes. what's going on at the time that that michael cohen opens the bank account and then he makes the transfer the next day that early morning, who is he on the phone with? donald trump so all of this is starting to be very corroborative of michael cohen's testimony. so as of today, it'll holds together. >> it's call after call after call at these crucial moments, it's not just once it's time after time. >> i mean, terry in court today where you've been every day as well, what obviously this case tanks on cohen, if not what he says, but these corroborating documents, call logs, whatever it may be, what was your impression of him as a witness? >> oh, i thought he was excellent. i actually think he's one of the best witnesses so far. he was cool, calm, and collected beyond that, he was very respectful when he was getting questioned. he always said back to hoffinger ma'am, i think the jury probably got a good impression of him and like norm said, he put all the evidence and in addition to the call logs, we have the checks,
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the invoices, the vouchers, all of that is on a chart and the jury can see that. and so everything that michael cohen said has been corroborated by all of the other evidence and he can at those dots. >> and obviously there's going to be more on direct never mind on cross, which they've promised. we'll go as just as long which i want to ask about, but stephanie, when you see trump's reaction today, obviously, in court, he was listening or his eyes were closed, but he was irate afterwards when he spoke to the cameras, i ratan more so than we have seen him thus far after any other de in core. what do you read into that in terms of his ability to keep his composure in that courtroom? >> i think that he probably saw the news coverage after stormy daniels was up on the stand and his reaction was covered pretty widely and it wasn't it wasn't favorably. i'm sure his lawyers talk to him. i'm sure his family members talk to him and said, you you cannot be
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acting out when michael cohen is there. and i think probably it was an ego thing. i doubt he wanted to show michel any kind of a reaction. then yes. magen that right when he got out of that courtroom, you wanted to burst and couldn't wait until he got to the suburban. and of course, had to give the media show so norm, what did you notice about trump's reaction to cohen in court? well trump has the most vigorous reactions when melania is mentioned and when there was that very telling discussion that i think really proves this was a payment that was intended for the campaign. >> where trump said cohen that to him a question i'm about the payment and the delay. and trump said, look, if i'm president, i won't care. and if i'm not president, i won't care. so try to delay it and then cohen says, and this is when trump reactant kohn says, well, what about melania and trump responded, i won't be on
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the market get for long and trump grimaced. he tilted his head. i actually thought he was napping, but as soon as melania was mentioned, i pivoted over and he did have that reaction. he held himself back though. it was not the violent reaction when stormy said when he would yeah. yeah, separate rooms. and so every let me ask you about the exact quote, at least that we have it as cohen testified about the the stormy daniels story. so they're having a conversation. cohen says he and trump about it. and at cohen testifies that trump says, how long do you think i will be on the market for not long? >> you said stephanie a few weeks ago when you and i were talking that there were certain moments of this trial that may be very significant for trump. >> trump's life, for his marriage was this one of them? >> yeah absolutely. look, i think that two things can be true at the same time and could melania trump be angry right now about all of this being out there at about their personal lives. and it's humiliating. absolutely. on a personal
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level. >> but yes, she knew who she married. >> and i think that that comment to michael cohen ring absolutely true. she's happy, she's got a very good life. she's not going anywhere. that's been proven. and so i absolutely believe he said something like that to michael cohen rein on that point though the point and we know this is going to happen under cross, but they're even trying to bring it up under direct because they want cohen a chance to respond to it and that is whether this is all about revenge and trying to bring down a man for whom he did serve time in prison. >> so they talk about how he's angry. trump cut is bonus. they're talking about he's angry, he didn't get a job or was even considered for one of the administration which was of deep shame to him and the anger continues today. he's on tiktok showing trump behind bars. right. so this is going to come up some under direct and a lot under cross-examination, right. they're gonna emphasize this heavily. how hard is it going to be for the prosecution to convince just one jury member? >> but that's what this is about. anger and revenge. >> i think this is the
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difficulty for the prosecution and this is where the defense is going to have the greatest vulnerability. and michael cohen, because it's not just that he's a convicted did liar. and a liar to all three branches of government. but he also has a motive to lie in this case, the motive is revenge. retribution, and have probably thousands of hours of tape of michael cohen and various podcasts and the like. and if he ever says things like, i want him behind bars or something like that, that'll probably be played by the defense. so that's what they have to go on. >> at some level, michael cohen's character flaws are also a strength for the prosecution. >> so hope hicks says this is a guy who had never pay $130,000 of his own for donald trump, right? >> she says, now generous guy. >> yeah, and that's what michael cohen said on the stand today and it just resonates. that's exactly who he is. he said the reason i want to trump's authority and advances because i wanted my mind honey, back. that's the person who he is totally consistent it's consistent with the lock eyes that he was going to commit these kinds of leinz, but he's doing them on behalf of his client, donald trump. >> so what was the jury reaction to him today, terry? >> well, as always, they were
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very focused on him. i think he did play to the jury a little bit, not as much as he probably should have i think in hoffinger had to say, will tell the jury explain that to the jury and then he turned to the jury. they are looking at every piece of evidence on their monitor and they're following this. this is a very smart der we have a couple of lawyers on that jury and i do think that i think he was credible today. i we'll have to wait to see what happens when we get the cross-examination and we'll probably get it on the end of direct when we're talking about the fact that you've been convicted, the fact that you were convicted for perjury. >> but other than that, it was very very effective quickly. do you think that that the defense really will take as long as the prosecution on cross or if they learned their lesson from stormy daniels longer just think very long enough. >> you'll get mad. it's not yet, it's a very client driven defense and it seems unlikely that trump the angry trump we saw today is going to say oh,
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don't, don't spend too much time on michael cohen's. so i think we will get a longer and we'll go through the end of the day, thursday with the cross. >> all right. thank you all very much. and we'll see you tomorrow. next. michael cohen reveals just how far he was willing to go for trump and the incredibly heavy price he paid for his loyalty to the former president prison takes your soul the time that you're away from your family your friends, your life you'd never get it back plus the breaking news this hour, we have learned israel has enough troops on the edge of rafah for a full-scale invasion. >> exact invasion that biden warned on this program, the prime minister benjamin netanyahu, must not do and the images are terrifying cat five storms decimating communities, tornado shredding homes and lives. >> one woman though, finding a remarkable way to fight back
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five easter what they give to you, one pair of socks of underwear pants that generally don't fit one's going described himself as trump's pitbull riding in style appearing in the media use my legal skills within which to protect mr. jump to the best of my ability, threatening anyone who might challenge evolves but behind bars, the gilded life was gone it's easy to be a television tough-guy when you're on the outside, when you're on the inside, there are rules. >> it is not it's not a good place. >> i stand with trump and the constitution. other trump associates have been sentenced to jail or face the threat of it. and before trump lost the white house in 2020 the he
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pardons several, but not his long time dedicated lawyer, michael cohen. and that's split may have helped prosecutors get closer to cohen. i would like to see him standing before a court, being judged by a jury of 12 for his own dirty deeds and for his crimes went to jail. this had nothing to do with me. >> trump has steadily ripped into coincidences, prison days, playing down the former attorneys importance and dismissing his former friends accusations as bold-faced lies. but cohen has an answer for that. >> i am done with the lying. i am done being loyal to president trump the fact is the cornerstone of cohen's testimony all along has been that he did lie. >> he did commit crimes and he did go to prison for it. >> where he says he also did something else. >> he learned how to tell the truth about donald trump, aaron, right? right. he's he's
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telling a story here of redemption is what he is telling to the jury will see what they sit they think. >> all right. thank you very much, tom. and i'm roza medical. newman is with me, former senior adviser, then presidential from also the author of unhinged and insider's account of the trump white house and amaro. >> so obviously, you know, michael cohen very well. you go way back with him for many, many years together and the apprentice that's today, we saw some new things, at least to us, call logs that showed trump and cohen spoke to each other twice in the hours before cohen up that llc that he used to pay stormy daniel's. we learned that cohen had all of trump's contacts sink to his phone and over these years, you and i both seen them together many times. >> just how close was there relationship. >> and did you see something new today? >> first of all, aaron, thanks for having me on and certainly what you see in front of you in terms of michael cohen as a witness is a man who has evolved since most people came
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to know him during the early days of the campaign in the last, i'd say eight or nine years, michael cohen has been through a lot. in fact, right before i came on, you played a clip of him talking about his time in prison. well, i talked to him often during that time. i corresponded with him. i was in touch with his family. >> it was a very difficult time and it was something that i believe changed him forever so he testified today the wild. trump was preparing to enter the presidential race. i'm rosa, he admitted he was concerned about negative stories about his personal life and how they could affect the campaign, right? and cohen talked about those conversations. he said that trump told him just be prepared. there's gonna be a lot of women coming forward and then according to cohen, trump's spoke specifically about the stormy daniel's allegations and the fallout from alanine. and this is a crucial, crucial leinz let me ask you that it cohen testified today that trump says, how long do you think i'll be on the market for not long a sort of a
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dismissive way of saying who cares what millennia things that is ultimately what this case comes down to. the falsifications of business documents and did trump do what he did if the jury believes that he did this for the campaign or in any part, of you do it for his marriage. >> so what did you take away from what you heard today and how much was trump really worried about his marriage versus the campaign? >> and in those days oh, aaron, when i first met donald trump, which was in late 2003. >> yeah. i mean, he was still, you engaged to melania. he hadn't quite married her yet, and he considered himself a ladies man. he was constantly bragging about his conquest are the women he had been with, whether it was play mates or rather was models. >> i mean, this was someone who was very proud of the type of women that he engaged with. >> and how many women he engaged with. >> what michael cohen shared. >> it rings really true to who donald trump was during that time. but michael cohen also pointed out something that
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donald trump knew that this relationships, these elicit affairs, would be problematic to the campaign and that proved to be true. >> so i'm morose now here we are six months left in the 2024 campaign. so do you think more of this comes out? i mean, at this point or not? >> it depends on what's in the legit trump vault. you remember there's this rumor that at ami there was this trump vault that contained all of the stories that they tried to catch and kill. it wasn't just two in terms of the mcdougal or the stormy daniels affair from what i understand, allegedly, there our quite a number of these relationships that he had that they had to try to suppress. and so certainly there's still room for a lot of this to come out, but maybe they just like they did with stormy daniel's in some type of agreement are found a way to suppress them wow, and we will see whether, whether we find out for us, i guess it's all this proves,
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rafah, i'm not supplying the weapons that have been used historically to deal with rafah, to deal with the cities that deal with that problem. it's just wrong. we're not gonna we're not going to supply the weapons finch and artillery shells mj lee is breaking this reporting tonight out front of the white house. >> and mj i mean, you're reporting tonight is hugely significant. biden gave an ultimatum to netanyahu, though he was very clear. and now you're reporting that israel has has moved ahead and has the troops ready for that full invasion? >> that's right aaron, what two senior administration officials tell me and kylie, i would tonight. is that the us is current assessment? is that israel does have enough troops, a mass on the border of rafah to move forward with the full incursion into the city in the coming days. but an important caveat, aaron, is that senior us officials actually don't know right now whether israel has even made a final decision to go ahead with such an operation. now, i don't have to tell you. it would be hugely
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significant if israel did actually move forward with such a military operation precisely because of what president biden told you in the interval the last week, he made very clear that the us would stop sending offensive weapons to israel if they were to take that step. and all of this would of course be in direct defiance of what the president has repeatedly warned israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu to not do in the past several months. now and just assign in of how problematic this would be in the eyes of the biden white house one senior official telling me that israel has made a near the preparations that it would need to when it comes to food, shelter, and even hygiene in preparation for needing to move in evacuated. eventually, more than 1 million people that are currently in rafah. what's also interesting is that we are seeing us officials are increasingly questioning the way that israel is taking an approach to the end of this
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war. kurt campbell, who is a number two at the state department, told kylie earlier today that israeli leaders often talk about the idea of a sweeping victory on the battlefield and about this idea of total victory. but what he said to kylee was, i don't think we believe that is likely or possible. so that's certainly a sobering assessment from a top us official as the israelis continue to warn that they we are going to move ahead with such an operation into rafah, aaron, certainly significant to say a total victory is not possible as they've defined it mj lee, thank you very much with that crucial breaking news from the white house, i want to go out front now to democratic congressman adam smith of washington, the top democrat on the armed services committee. >> so congressman, i appreciate your time sobering development tonight with mj. is reporting israel's amassed enough troops to launch a full-scale invasion of rafah. of course, president biden has made it very clearly he made it very clear in that interview last week when i asked him that that was not okay. it was wrong and that he would withhold offensive
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weapons of israel moved ahead with that kind of an operation into the population collision center of rafah. so is there any turning back for israel now certainly there is. >> i mean, they have not gone into rafah in that way and so they would have to make a decision to go in. so clearly there is turning back and look prime minister netanyahu was put israel the us, and the entire middle east, and a very difficult place. we do not want to withdraw support from israel least, at least i don't. and the president doesn't we saw that when iran attacked israel a few weeks ago, if we are not able to help israel defend itself, this war could spread as iran and hezbollah decide to jump into that boyd. but at the same time, prime minister netanyahu is pursuing a strategy that is not in the best interests of israel and not in the best interests of pc has no plan for a post-hamas gaza. the president has been trying every lever we have to change that. but we don't really have the power to just force them to do so thing
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differently. and as i said, completely abandoning them comes with and high amount of risk for peace in the region as well. that's what would president biden's trying to navigate. >> so one thing though, after president biden said to me that warning, two things happened. one, prime minister netanyahu come out and posted a video saying, i've to go it alone if i have to with my fingernails or something like that. but it was go it alone if i have to, the idf came out at the spokesperson mr. hagari and said in a defiant statement israel is enough weapons in its stockpile to go ahead and rafah, it chooses to now obviously some of those weapons, it appears our american weapons, but they already have them my question to you is, congressman, from your perspective, the information you have an armed services can israel go it alone even if it's using stockpiled us weapons. but can they do it because they gu a major offensive in rafah without additional new us weapons yeah, absolutely. >> they could absolutely do that the better question is, could israel adequately deter
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all of the different entities who want to attack it? or ron has blood, the houthis, various other militia groups without that support that's a much tougher question. yes, israel could go into rafah without us a support. no question about it. >> i mean, it's a real as i said, it's a real problem. >> what prime minister netanyahu is doing, not looking to a future where there is kind of peace in gaza. there has to be a future for the palestinian people on his approach has been undermining that at every turn, there are people who could come in in govern gaza palestinians the saudis are working with them, king abdullah and jordan is working with them. egypt, uae, others are trying to build that group. prime minister netanyahu has to give them that chance by giving some kind of future for gaza and by focusing on the humanitarian crisis there as well. and it's in, israel's best interest to do that. >> and yet, and yet prime minister netanyahu has been
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intransigent in terms of the way he sees this. >> and perhaps that's part of the reason why president biden, i chose to give that ultimatum as he did when i spoke to him last week. >> i mean, is the biden-netanyahu relationship, which is central to this what is the status of that right now, after president biden did what he did, it's very clear that was problematic. i mean, it looked but again, i think the more important issue here is what is prime minister netanyahu's relationship with the israeli people? it's not good. you see all of the protesters, you see all of the concern, the concern for the hostages so whatever netanyahu's relationship is with biden, biden's relationship with israel, the us relationship with these real is strong, prime minister netanyahu was creating know into problems for that. and again, the people paying a high, high price for that, certainly, or the people in gaza, but also the israeli people who are placed at greater danger because of it. >> hi congressman. i appreciate your time. good to talk to you tonight. thank you, sir. >> thanks next all eyes tonight on a little-known governor who suddenly found himself flying
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exciting and inspiring ways just and we're getting new reports this hour of destructive tornadoes and parts of louisiana. >> it comes as tornadoes and hurricanes are getting more powerful than ever. homes leveled, rebuilt leveled again. a climate crisis this is fueling more than 80 different billion-dollar disasters in the, in the past four years at different billion-dollar disasters and four years. but now one woman is taking matters into her own hands. and bill, we're is out front with his champion for change the most powerful storm ever to make landfall on the florida panhandle. >> the window to evacuate his clothes i remember watching tv and thinking, if this stays on the same path, we're not going to make an an, it's too late to leave. i'm originally from seattle, washington and i met my husband up there. i was bartending and he was playing fresnel football for the seattle seahawks, who are having our first baby until we purchased a home on the gulf coast right outside of destin
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we had ava my first baby girl. when hurricane michael hit 12 weeks later stay indoors, stay away from windows. when code actually where i live is about 115 miles an hour. and hurricane michael was well beyond that already, the storm continued to shift and then unfortunately hit mexico city beach where it was it's complete and total devastation and absolutely heartbreaking the next morning when i woke up, there was a fire in me that this isn't right. i can't live from june to october every single year hoping that a storm does not come and kill me in my kids and so driven purely by a desire to protect her own family. and that rubin became an accidental pioneer in the field of disaster proofing construction. >> he had no experience in construction or business of this sort at all. >> no. >> i went down this rabbit hole of how do we build a 45 structure in her new quest to find a really strong building material someone that admits church brought up, and medulla
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are m2, say 40 year-old italian company created by an engineer who discovered a really easy to construct to build a home. i could stand up to an earthquake. basically came up with a styrofoam and steel mesh sandwich on concrete, read, first you make these panels any shape you what round, straight. it could be a roof that could be stairs, it could be a park bench. it could be an airport. >> and then it is covered with scramble concrete sea it structural concrete, insulated panel, creating one monolithic structure with these panels have that's great. >> is that they're way more waterproof. than a traditional construction material. so if you see that building over there, the roofs not even finished, it's not even waterproofed and it just rained like three days in a row and not one droplet got into the second floor? >> so this is the mesh machine up here. >> and we can do varying length and width and all that. >> did you ever imagine when you are moving across the country, let you we doing this? >> no definitely not we have a
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250 mile an hour wind rating, who are 50? yeah. >> is there actually has never been her, right? >> that would be a category, not but yeah, there's never been a hurricane that fast before as a climate reporters slash dad, i tend to measure global trends against the lifetime of my kids. it just in the four years since my little boy river was born, there have been over at separate billion-dollar disasters. just in the as the planet overheat sunder a blanket of fossil fuel pollution it is clear the way we think about shelter has to evolve. >> we have these huge catastrophic events and they rebuild everything the exact same way. in my mind, that's the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and hoping for different results our goal is to give 10% of all of our profits to disaster relief. donating homes to people who lose them and hurricanes, fires, earthquakes any kind of natural disaster.
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and they're getting worse. i think people are hungry for something different. and i think as a construction community, there's enough people coming up in the next generation that really want to learn these new innovative things were stores and crops to pursue this from, from nothing to get too, are you actually have the company and the product and the idea. >> and, you know, and that you wrote about are in your book life as we know, it can be right? >> but when you look at what she's doing right now, she says that the definition of insanity is doing something, you know, won't work again and again. >> part of the reason people do that is because it's cheap on the upfront exactly. >> is this more expensive to build? >> well, actually wrote this book because as a guide to my boy, like where to live, what kind of house to live in as the earth heats up right now. >> and it turns out that if you live in a place with a lot of swimming pools like florida, california, the southern part, those so the contractors who know how to blow concrete shot create a g9. it's called and so it might be 5% more than a stick frame construction, but there's so man