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close out the season daughters asserted to heat up, this is going to be funny, isn't it reduce hurricanes? >> boilers couldn't always begins tomorrow with six, 30 on tnt tonight, manhunt, the escape of a notorious french inmate nicknamed the fly, caught on video this is the unbelievable moment on your screen when masked and hooded gunman rammed a stolen car into the prison van and then i mean, as you see this all happened in broad daylight. >> the gunman around me open to prison guards were murdered in this incident the fly inmate has an extensive rap sheet. he's a suspected international drug boss under investigation and homicide and kidnapping cases. and he was sentenced just last week to 18 months in prison for burglary, which is the least of the issues and it seems he tried to escape two days before the arm told up and tonight, he and the gunman remain at large. barge. >> thanks so much for joining us. we'll see you back here tomorrow ac30 60 starts right
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now tonight on three 60 breaking news, new details and how the former president's defense team plans to undermine michael cohen's testimony in the criminal hush money trial when court resumes tomorrow morning. >> also tonight, president biden and the former president agree on two debates with cnn and abc. abc news, and george stephanopoulos joins us ahead. and more breaking news this evening, the latest and the attempted assassinatioion of slovakia is prime minister caught on camera good evening. >> we start with our breaking news about how the former president's attorneys expected to go after michael cohen when cross-examination in the new york criminal hush money trial continues tomorrow days after legal analyst criticize defense attorney todd blanche is initial approach and the new york times noted that his questions produce know gotcha moment. aside from a reprimand from the judge at the outset for making the cross about himself. i'm joined now by johnny jones, the third former chief judge for the us middle district of pennsylvania,
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former federal prosecutor jeffrey thuban. normal eyes and former counsel to house democrats are in the former president's first impeachment. he's also the author of trying trump, a guide to his first first election interference, criminal trial has been in the courtroom throughout, as has are correspondent kara scannell, who had tonight's breaking news. so what have you learned about what's going to happen to 70 of the game tomorrow is going to be to try to focus on michael cohen's past statements and suggests to the jury that he's a liar and he can't be trusted. they just want to undercut his credibility and one thing that they're going look at are some of the past statements he's made under oath, and that is because he's under oath now, so they want to say to the jury, he is lied before under oath. you shouldn't believe him now and they've gotten to a little bit of it with his past admission that he has pleaded guilty before congress. but at the civil fraud trial, michael cohen, under cross-examination by trump's lawyers, said that he had lied to federal judge when he pled guilty to tax fraud and he has said publicly that repeatedly. so that is an error. they're going to focus on because they want to suggest that the jury that they can't leave the story so much of this
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could come down to whether the jury believes michael cohen. and so the name of the game tomorrow is really to try to show that he's a liar who can't be trusted. there so going to focus on the conversations that cohen says he had with donald trump because he's the only one that was involved in those conversations. and the only witness to testify that trump knew and approved this repayment scheme involving calling it a retainer. no other witnesses testified to that, so it's a two-fold thing. they want to say that he shouldn't be believed and to just raise questions about any of these recollections that he's had of conversations with donald trump and warning that seems like a reasonable defense is an excellent strategy. i wonder why they did do it on tuesday the problem is that the prosecution and mr. cohen are lying in wait for these arguments. we talked when i was with you yesterday about drawing this thing the prosecution presenting details in advanced to the jury. so
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there's no surprise on this lying to a federal judge. >> cohen explained on his direct that he doesn't disagree with the underlying facts that are alleged about his tax crimes. what he meant was he shouldn't have been prosecuted for such ticky tack issues as a first-time offender. and he felt he had to plead guilty because his wife was placed under duress. they gave them a short fuse. we're going to charge your wife. >> so the explanations are there we'll see who the jury believes it is a reasonable strategy. >> attack his credibility and go after the substance you know what, i just don't understand about this is sure. >> i mean, it makes a certain amount of sense, but why not use michael cohn as a witness for you? for example, this is a case about donald trump ordering or creating or causing
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false documents. why not ask michael cohen, did donald trump ever touch any of these documents? did he ever process any of these? texts? did he know what the software was? is he the bookkeeper at this company all of those answers are helpful to the defense and you don't have to accuse him of lying for that. why not use michael cohen for his knowledge of how the trump organization worked to undermine the idea that donald trump had anything to do? with the preparation of the documents that are what this case there's a well, here's here's what i'm thinking about. >> you know, you have todd blanche who has the most difficult client in the united states. now, think of a broadway show that opens its highly touted. that's his cross-examination the other day. and reviews aren't good they're coming in and the producer that you see, what's going on here. and you know, the former president is reading all these reviews. so this is a momentum shift blanche had the
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momentum or some momentum with him on tuesday tomorrow, the momentum shifts, the pressure sure. is on him, i think to be as incisive and as good as he could be. and he's got a witness to your point, who's prepped and ready for these arguments, and it's gonna be a tough day for him. he's feeling the weight of the world on its entering, judge, because so many people were jbeil high expectations for blanche on his his first cross-examination the expectations could not have been lower from michael cohen, which to your point and he seemed to certainly surpass that and remain calm. and successfully deflect a lot of stuff with leinz seem to have been worked out in advance, but like i know it sounds like something i would say. >> do you think he can i mean, i were you surprised by his testimony? >> how i would not have started with the so-called shock and awe question. i just don't
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think that was a way to go. good cross has been described as a box you build around the witness and then you slam the top shut at the end of the cross. i thought it was meandering. i didn't understand the purpose of it. it's tough when you have a witness who's ready for you and his game plan and prepare. i don't know what he's gonna do though, because he's got to shift gears quickly. and he can't go too long because he's going to get hurt if he goes too long tough tough situation right now points go to i think cohen, he's he's more credible. they've got work to do and credit where credit is due to the da because they very skillfully played the expectation game throughout the trial, de elicit it criticism of cohen from every witness, so they suppress the jury is the ultimate audience for the expectations based suppress the jury and the judge's expectations. and i was watching the jury and at
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different points in cohen's testimony, you had the jury doesn't always do this i counted one of the things today. there was at one jurors who were nodding or smiling, or agreeing with cohen at one point in his testimony, it's like a presidential debate. both sides want to suppress expectations. the de a did that brilliantly in setting this moment. >> you don't no normal let's clairvoyance about what the jury is thinking. i mean, we'll see lawyers, lawyers, and judges are the worst at trying to judge what what jurors are thinking. i confess, well, maybe we'll get points to norm, but you don't want to get yanked over by the judge and the beginning of your cross-examination and told don't make this cross-examination about you bad. >> luck that the jury notices that sort of thing. >> they do. i mean, they can't hear exactly what's going on. it's sidebar layout here and they're not supposed to hear anything, but they know somebody's in the penalty box
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at that point takes you off your strike. >> could see the judge berating blanche. it was now you can understand and then he ordered the questions struck from the record and the jury did here that care when do you anticipate the case could be in the hands of the jury? >> i mean, i think my next week because there's no other witnesses after cohen's. so even if cross goes all day tomorrow, the prosecution will have redirect with him. and if this goes all day tomorrow, they're going to want to spend some time with how and if trump's team decides are not going to call this expert witness, then it comes down to does donald trump take the stand? and if he doesn't, then we'll move right into closing arguments. so this could be in the hands of the jury next week. >> all right. we'll be watching to everyone. thank you. coming up tonight. bipartisanship may be dead, but occasionally deals do get done. president biden and the former president today agree to two presidential debates. the first one will be on cnn, the second on abc. george stephanopoulos for maybe she knew just joining us tonight. also ahead more breaking news, the latest and the attempted assassination of the prime minister of slovakia. there was caught on camera. his
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earliest debate in a presidential campaign and television history. second debate was also announced this morning scheduled for september 10, airing on abc news. >> the flurry of activity began this morning when president biden released this video donald, trump lost two debates to me in 20 $0.20 said he is shown up for debate. >> now he's acting like he wants to debate me again or make my day pal, i'll even do it twice. so let's pick the dates, donald, i hear you're free on wednesdays an animated president biden dropping a reference to not only clean eastward, but also the one de of the week, the foreign president is always free from his new york criminal trial. soon after the foreign president confirmed his participation in a series equally combative post on social media, quote, crooked joe biden is the worst debater i've ever faced. he can't put two sentences together. he ended the posed by saying, quote, just tell me when i'll be there. let's get ready to rumble. joined now by david axelrod, former senior adviser to president obama, or senior data reporter harry enten and galen college recovered the trump white house and anchors
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the source next hour on cnn, david, is this a wise decision by the biden campaign and given trump? is leading in many swing states, or you surprise, he appears so eager to debate and so early yeah, well, well, there are a couple of things there. >> i think he needs to debate. this is a close race everyone's seen these polls, they have their own polls. he knows that he has to cross this hurdle. the whole predicate of the trump campaign and you sought reflected in that tweet, is that biden as old and feeble. and incapable of being president and the debate is the hurdle that he has to cross. he needs to dispel that notion in that debate. and they need, they know, they need to take care of that take that opportunity, but they also i thought negotiated very, very wisely. trump was eager for it got a debate that's not going to be a roman colosseum, but in a television studio without an
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audience, which disadvantages trump and it's early plea, which gives you a chance to recover if the debate is not, is not good. we, some of us who are old enough to remember, remember 1980 when jimmy carter debated ronald reagan once and he did it a week before the election. the debate didn't go well for carter and the race was over. i think biden understands that history so getting early debates and getting them out of the way is also very wise. i think caitlin, do you have any information or any field for how the trump team has sort of approaching this. >> and with the risk versus reward, well, i mean they really had no option but to take president biden up on this offer when he posted this video today, because it every a trump rally, an event that he does and even chris lacivita, one of his campaign managers they had this slogan that says, anywhere anytime, any place because they've been kinda putting this off are out there seeming to bet on the idea that the biden team would be reluctant to debate. and so when president biden issued this video they can take them up
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when there was a time and a place after that kinda what they've been daring them to do. >> i think that when you speak to the people inside the trump campaign, they honestly believe that that trump will fare better against biden in these debates. >> than he did in 2020. obviously, they mocked biden's age and ability at every single turn of trump's campaign. he does it, you know, going into the courthouse even which it was notable that biden referenced that there because he doesn't often talk about trump's legal cases. and for him to do that in this video was remarkable. but they feel quite confident about it. i do think it's a question though. sometimes trump's sets the bar so low as he did with the state of the union, as he did with the 2020 debates. and that when biden is able to come out there and debate him and perform it shifts the expectations of what people believed bij be doing. >> that's certainly the hope of the biden white house in a case like this, they were certainly pleased with the state of the union. >> of course, the lower the bar, the easier it is to jump over those expectations. it was for the state of the union. it was for the first 2020 debate. so that's a big question that
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trump team feels confident though that for years have changed biden and there'll be able to come across looking better. >> harriet, david referenced jimmy carter reagan debate, what's the data show about the history of the debates in terms of how the impact they've had. >> yeah, i'm gonna go with debates that actually occurred while i was registered to vote. so why don't we look over the last three cycles and what we see is that the base it's can have a tremendous impact on what's going on. there have been real debate bumps back in 2016, 2012, 2020, we've seen bumps. we saw a bump from it, romney coming in at first debate of about four percentage points, hillary clinton saw a bump against donald trump about five. joe biden soil bump about four. and i think that to me illustrates in my own mind, donald trump saying, i really want these debates. but the fact is he's actually fared quite poorly in an and there's a lot at stake for donald trump in these debates, because although he's a hand, the polls right now, i'm not quite sure we recognize how tight this race really isn't the states that matter. look at those great lake battleground states, look at those poles that came
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out from the new york times, sienna college earlier this week and what we see in those states are very close races. joe biden up by a point in one state down, trump up by one another, and up by three. and pennsylvania. so essentially, if we see the bumps that we saw on the prior years and apply them to the polls right now, joe biden and might be trailing right now, but he may be coming out of those debates if he does well, leading in the race. >> david, i mean, incumbent president since our historically rusty in their first general election debates, you prison obama's first debate against mitt romney comes to mind. i'm sure comes to mind in do you have as ll can you explain why and have that problem and how they expect? you how does a president avoid that yeah, they have that problem because they haven't debated for a long time nobody gets in there grill when you're president the united states people may challenge you, but you're not, they're not four feet away and getting in your grill and they habitually want to defend their records when you want to do is
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follow a strategic script and put the opponent on the defensive and look, we experienced it in 2012. >> and i circled that data in red months in advance because of the history of this, and i and we worked really hard to try and keep president obama from being too defensive in the debates by getting to into the weeds on his record. and so on. and we failed. and it took romney just took us to the cleaners in that debate, we recovered in the next debate but is a real problem and it is a particular problem i think for president biden that they're going to have to be careful about because he tends to be very much about wanting to defend his record of tout his record and he he could he could really be subject to this. so ron klain is can be preparing them as chief is former chief of staff very, very masterful debate, prep who's been through a lot of these, including with us. i
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think he will be alert to that and the question is, can biden keep from getting baited caitlin, i want to play a clip from the biden first biden or trump debate back in 2020 i'm going to pack to make sure you in fact, let people know. >> he doesn't want to senator russia. i'm not going to answer the question because the question is the question is yes, is left. well, you who is on your list, you this one you write, gentlemen, i think pack the court i mean, wow i feel like i need like i can refer i mean, i remember that debate. i was in the room and sometimes it's harder to watch something when you're actually in the room four and especially a debate like that, then even being at home, i mean, these things are kinda created for at-home audiences but you couldn't hear anything that either of them was saying. they were just screaming over one another. no one walked away from that debate, having learned anything are benefited in any way, it was like the happy gilmore reference. and it was just i mean, it was the
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moment where the trump campaign after that they thought he did really poorly in that debate. they thought he did a lot better. the second debate, but thing is they felt like it was too late. the impression had said in and what's interesting about the dates of this is june. they feel both campaigns that it could provide enough time that if there is a stumble that they have month before the next one or months before some people cast their votes, it could benefit biden more given early voting is something they really count on. the one thing i'll say it is the mics can be cut off, which is notable. no audience. you're not going to have it where is it the mics are automatically cut off when the time is up, or they just can. >> i believe it's that they have the power to be able to cut them off because that's essentially what the biden campaign wanted. >> this is the letter from jen o'malley dillon, who's working on i'm president biden's campaign because they felt like it needed it just needs to have some control structure. >> i guess it's not until like cutting you off, but i mean, sometimes they don't stop
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talking. i know that feel like for me. >> caitlin. thank you. david thank you. >> coming up next, we're turning to the breaking news about the trump team's strategy for the second de, michael cohen's cross-examination abc news anchor, george stephanopoulos joins me for you to take it on historic trial is new book and we'll get his thoughts on the upcoming biden trump debate as well with armor all a little bit of this protects you from a lot of that armor all less work, more kliger by $20, get five back through may 31st humpty dumpty, does it with a great fall wonderful pistachios get cracking hotels.com
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anchor and veteran of the clinton white house, george stephanopoulos joins me also, georgia is the author of a fascinating new book the situation room, the inside story of presidents in crisis. >> i want you to the book at the moment, george, but first i got to ask you about these two historic for number of reasons, general election debates, how they came together today. what do you think? >> that was a big move by president biden two kind of preempt the commission and come out and challenges a bit. i was surprised at how quickly it came together. i'm glad that you guys are doing one of that abc is gonna do one as well. i do think that i was actually skeptical the debates we're going to happen because the experience lastly, yeah, a lot but i do think that the rules that president biden has stipulated can help make it better than that disastrous debate from four years ago that you guys were just talking about a couple of minutes ago. i mean, no audience having the mics cut off when your time
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runs, i could help make it could help make it a more constructive debate. so i do think at least for sure the first one is going to happen. i hope they both do the first event is going to be the earliest in history, six weeks from tomorrow on cnn and the abc one is in september. >> do you think the schedule benefits? their campaign more i think biden wanted to shake up the race a little bit. >> so probably you could argue that it benefits them a little bit more to have the early debate and the also gives each candidate more time to recover if they have a bad the paper part of that is also of necessity it's kinda we've all learned this from four years ago. it's kind of a misnomer to think of election day voting in so many states starts in september, yeah. and so much, so many the votes are cast by november that it does make more sense to have the debates i think earlier in the cycle, i do think that makes, that makes more sense. and especially when this time around when there's just no mystery about and there
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hasn't been for a long time about who the candidates were going to be it does make some sense to have it earlier in the summer. there's a moment in your new book, the situation room where you talk about the trump white house and the level of distrust between everyone. >> you write that as fixer michael cohen was taping conversations at the time you interviewed cone, you know what he's like how remarkable is it to you that the first criminal trial before and president hinges on his testimony it's really something and i was i've known michael cohen for a long time. >> i was receiving end of many angry phone calls when he was a trump loyalist. i've had endless conversations with him since then as he's switched loyalties and it is kind of right. i mean, and you know this as well, anderson, when he was close with president trump, donald trump at the time, no one was more ferocious pitbull he talked about taking a bullet for president trump, but he's now for several years going back to 2018, has had a
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complete switch and it complete switch and loyalties to what he says is his family and his country. and as you were just setting up this whole segment is going to be interesting to see whether the fact that michael cohen was an inveterate liar for donald trump ends up hurting donald trump, are helping you. >> yeah your book does something which i haven't really heard much about, which is really taking people inside the situation room during crises for various presidents you chronicle what was going on in the situation room during the attack on the capitol on january 6. and you write that a desk officer told you they went into quote continuity of government situation on january 6, which something that was designed to ensure the government would sell function after disaster, like a nuclear war. do you think that the general public fully grasp how i'll be good deal. that was january 6 i open the book with that because i think they should because it was this is a white house duty officer who is telling me that he's on the line the secret service and
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others at the capitol, and they're not sure the vice president is going to survive that day and this is at the same time that the president united states at the time is tweeting out and attack on mike pence and he and that's something that jd vance, by the way, senator recently was poo-pooed saying, oh things is an exaggeration. >> i don't think the vice president is really in any danger. >> yeah. i asked mike stigler about that because i interviewed him for gma the other day as well. >> and he says they can think whatever they want. i was there george. stephanopoulos, the book, the situation room, the inside story of presidents in crisis. it's available now george. thank you so much thanks, anderson, coming weeks after pro-palestinian protests broke out at colleges around the country has seen an investigation now reveals new details about who is actually behind the violence that one particular night. the ucla campus, when counter-protesters showed up, we'll have more ahead ms bathroom. >> so musty new fast-acting
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been investigating who some of those counter protesters were. your server port this is the worst violence of any of the ongoing college protests ucla, where counter protesters used sticks and boards against a pro-palestine encampment it was more than three hours of unrestrained violence the night of april 30 lead to injuries and bloody cedes. >> its campus security, law enforcement allowed it to continue. >> they were there spraying. there are they're pulling barriers they were there to very clearly do some serious harm to the students who were on campus. >> when you look at the counter protesters how many of them were ucla students? >> i would say basically none of them who are the most aggressive offenders a cnn investigation of hundreds of videos from multiple sources
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shows many of them are outsiders not ucla students among the people who showed up that night far-right agitators with no apparent connection to the middle east war. >> others driven by pro, israel beliefs among them, this man. he's strikes a pro-palestine protest or with a long white pole and as part of a mob that pummels the man as he falls to the ground he's seen in multiple videos wearing this so white masks striking the barriers, throwing objects into the encampment without his mask, we see who he is. >> 18 year-old get down own of beverly hills, a senior at a local high school coincide to the kitchen. how do i get inspired? >> i spoke with his mother. >> hi, there. are you sure rock high? hi. i'm let me introduce us. she did not want to be on camera. >> okay. quickly identified her
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son from this picture at ucla that night. she described in detail how her son found the mask and pull on the ground and said he was defending himself in this fight. on her facebook page, aidan owns mother posted and circled a screen grab of her son from a local tv station. >> she wrote in hebrew e-dawn went to bully the palestinian students and the tents that ucla, he dan's mother and father proudly support israel and defended their son's actions at ucla, saying he is heading to israel to join the idea after our interview, she texted to say e-dawn denies being at ucla older men were also at the front of the violence tom debian recorded pulling like rat plywood kicking protesters, throwing cones at the students in the encampment water bottles at protesters, and yelling expletive we went to ask debian why he'd gone to the campus that night. hi, mr. mr. vivian?
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>> yeah. can you take that off? you don't have permission to record me. >> vivian was wearing the same jacket he had on in the video from ucla. >> he's a los angeles resident with age 42, seen at a 2022 pro-trump protest outside the law i'll see angeles fbi office he did not want to explain why he's on video doing this. >> you're being a little rude and i'm going to call the police if you'd only sure okay. >> we identified not just tom debian, but other ordered men who had no apparent affiliation with ucla. >> i mean, you've seen them at how many other events lots of different events, school board meetings, city council meetings, angie gabbana is los angeles area public school mom, who's been tracking right wing protesters in our area. the group who she we'd seen protesting gay rights and public schools were drawn to ucla that night, the revolution, an avenue tonight man down, man though they were clearly at ucla that night, there's no evidence these men
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participated in the violence. your gums, the jews song bad cover your ears the man who was live streaming, narc, polygon appears to be a persistent agitator who posts anti-jewish tropes on social media accounts to he stood with the pro israel crowd hi, i'm qiang law from cnn pollyanna claim to us that he has a child at ucla, though a student didn't accompany him that night and that he had good intentions. i was definitely keeping the peace. okay. at least trying to you weren't there to make it worse? no, of course, i was in there to make it worse. >> i, hate to say it, but i was expecting us to start working on an obituary the next day. because i thought something that's serious would happen to the students in the encampment
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you feel like they one? >> based on the way they were cheering when the police arrived tuesday night i think they might feel that they one king joins me. >> it's still stunning to me that the police, i mean, there seemed to be some police around, but it seemed clearly didn't seem like police really moved in very quickly at all to stop this you can clearly find these people what's law enforcement saying? >> they're going to do or if anything yeah. >> that's a very good question and we actually asked them, we went to the key law enforcement agencies. we started with ucla police department. we reached out to them via email, their office leinz text messages, cell phones, and despite are numerous attempts and very specific questions, we did not get any response, a clear response about their response that night or any follow-up investigation. we also reached out to the chp and lapd. they referred back to the ucla
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police department and back to your question, anderson. i mean, we did identify not just the folks that you saw in the story, but additional people you'll see them in that story that will post tomorrow morning on cnn.com. >> understand well, thanks very much. still ahead. more breaking news. we have new video showing the aftermath of the assassination attempt against slovakia is prime minister today and new details and his condition and would officials are saying about the motive for the attack? >> you know, i spent a lot of time thinking about dirt at three in the morning and what people don't know. is that not all dirt is the same? you need dirt with the right kind of nutrients. >> look at this new organic soil from miracle grow, everybody should have it, it worked great frehse. >> this is as good as gold in any garden if people only knew that it really is about the dirt, your dirt nerd huge turkey. i'm proud of it if you have chronic kidney disease, you can reduce the risk of
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paul's not winning a championship. >> getty was trying to stay positive or positive. >> he didn't win a ring oh my god breaking news out of slovakia tonight afternoon fascination attempt against the prime minister. we got to new video of the actual attack that will show you in a moment when he was shot five times by gunmen. the video you see there is when he's being rushed away after the shooting following the attack and officials said the prime minister was quote, fighting for his life and his medical stay was very complex. now the deputy prime minister says he's expected to survive and his quote, not in a life-threatening situation, soon as nic robertson has that new video on details as prime minister robert fitzroy approaches a security barrier is would be assassin pulls a gun five shots, fired into fit. >> so this film from another angle, the prime minister unable to walk manhandled by body guards into a car. the
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shooter instantly wrestled to the ground. that's feet so rushed to a nearby hospital we're a spokesman said he was conscious his life functions stabilized before being transferred by helicopter to another hospital about 30 kilometers away for higher level care more than three hours later, the defense and interior ministers announcing the pm still in surgery great fighting for his life. and this a motive. it's a political, it's absolutely clear and we have to react on that no details from the country's two top security officials about the suspected assassin only extreme concern his actions will trigger a violent backlash. >> in this politically divided nation of 5 million people, three orange shed chemo channel, i tell to all of us citizen is the answer to hate
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is not and cannot be hate i'm begging you all to stop. >> 50. you have to stop spreading attacks and hatred also through social networks and the media dummy have barney, the shooting occurred following a government meeting and handed over two hours drive from the capital this eyewitness says she was there to shake the prime minister's hand usual at events like this, i heard three shots. >> it was quick, one by one. like if you throw a fight hi, a cracker on the ground. i saw scratch on his head and then he fell next to the barrier. >> the reality, however, more than a scratch on their head, the president of the country declaring it a terrible, a malicious attack a physical attack on the prime minister is primarily an attack on a person but it is also an attack on democracy feed. >> so was never shy of courting controversy a divisive figure, a populist who is
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anti-immigration, anti islam and t lg tb2. q and pro-putin and russia. >> he had a political comeback last year, winning the elections as prime minister for a third time despite long running corruptions, allegations he was forced to resign during his previous term amid mass protests over the murder when investigative journalists in 2018 feet. >> so had no shortage of potential enemies nic robertson, cnn london and joining me now is senior international correspondent, fred pleitgen, who is in slovakia outside the hospital where the prime minister is being treated. what more do we know about his condition? >> hi there anderson, what was certainly seemed as though the doctors here we're really fighting for his life for an extended period of time. the information that we're getting is that he was in surgery for several hours and not conscious for most of that time as well as the doctors were essentially trying to save his life. now,
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the thing that we heard from the politicians here during this country, they say that he suffered five gunshot wounds, you shot five times a by that would be assassin that we just saw. nic robertson piece. now, as of tonight, as of right now as i'm standing here the current situation is that they are saying that the wounds are not life threatening anymore. it's unclear whether or not robert feed so is conscious at this zero point in time. however, he is being treated here in this hospital and certainly seems as though he is going to be at this hospital possibly for an extended period of time. again, he was air lifted here because this is a trauma center where they can treat some severe wounds. obviously, the shooting happened a little bit away from here, but certainly right now it seemed as though the politicians are saying not life-threatening anymore, but definitely still a dangerous situation. anderson, anything else known about a possible motive of the shooter yeah. it's very difficult to say the only thing that we have from the politicians here right now from those two that we saw at that press conference, the
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interior minister, the defense minister, they say they believe that this was politically motivated. the other thing they say is they believe that hate speech caused all of this. now, we saw their knicks report and certainly is the case. also we know from reporting here on the ground in slovakia that of course robert feet. so was a very divisive figure here in the political landscape. certainly also because of its proximity to vladimir putin to russia, also because of the fact that you wanted to cut off aid to ukraine as well. one of the things that politician said is they said, look they believed that those fissures that, that hate speech might have caused all this. but they are still being very careful not to disclose the identity of the would-be shooter, and certainly a closer information as to what exactly the motivation could be. anderson i can thanks so much coming up next to high school that goes beyond education that helps teens battle addiction. me, dr. sanjay gupta has champion for change just ahead jaylene is presented by charles schwann, bone, your tomorrow. go to
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that for the first time in five years, drug overdose deaths in the i'm fine. >> according to preliminary data from the cdc, a little more than 100,000 people died from an overdose last year, 3% drop from the year before. but despite what's seen, any hopeful trend, the overall number of deaths is still extraordinarily high with fentanyl being a major cause. all this week on cnn, we're bringing your eighth annual champions for change spotlighting incredible stories people changing their communities and our world. including dr. sanjay gupta has champion keith hayes, a special mentor, leading a drug addiction recovery program at a very unique high school haze is battled his own share of demons and is now helping to turn his students lives around. take a look welcome to 52 at high school, we are the largest recovery high school in the country. >> we serve students who struggle with substance abuse you self-harm, eating disorders, and other destructive behaviors. and we teach kids how to live without
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drugs and alcohol. one de to talk. >> i am key so today's topic is about getting sober. >> how i got high i was miserable and active addictions pretty much every day every morning starts with something known as boat be opened and authentic together. >> to sit and listen to that meeting is one of the most powerful things i think i've ever done. i remember this period of time where it was like if i wasn't high, i like was going to kill myself there's this quote that said that the opposite of addiction is not sobriety the opposite of addiction is human connection and that's what, that time period really is are you breaking new ground? >> with a program like this? >> that's the hope. >> i think a lot of other recovery high schools do a lot of clinical pieces. and that's cool. >> but i'm sorry another 16-year-old that looks like me.
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>> that sounds like me. that now has a year, 18 months to years sober, sharing with me what they did to get sober is better than in any doctor or clinical person can ever do to help them so how much of your own personal life experience is part of this role for you. i mean, it's everything i started my journey in active addiction as early as 14, 15 years old have five felonies today. felonies that i acquired while under the influence of drugs and alcohol and active addiction. >> it's hard to reconcile the man that's sitting in front of me with all that yeah. are you the exception to the rule or are you the rule? >> there's a lot of us out here who have recreated our lives in recovery. but it is a part of my story and it is very important that i share those very terrible and inhumane things that i did. an active addiction. so we can give hope to others that they can recover two so what are we about to see
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here? so now we're about to go into our biology, engineering, physics, chemistry, woodshop class. >> i like to biology of workshop together. i couldn't use that. yes, sir. >> by doing project-based learning and allows the kids to be able to learn 21st century skills, learn how to collaborate well with others, how to problem-solve also, core principles in recovery as well. it's like an emotional outlet for me i love to create. you come here, you got to put in the work the action. >> i know every single kid i can tell you about their story. i can tell you what they've been through when they do make mistakes or things do happen not beating them up about it lebanon them supporting them, and figure out what do we need to do next to help them get to the next level i started drinking and using when i was 13, a smoking crack and fentanyl and drinking and ended up getting narc canned and was in the hospital. >> keith was like a really big
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support through all of that and would just continuously show me that he loved me and cared about me. and have been serwer since then. and now i have 17 months. >> congratulations for that. >> thank you. >> do you dream about the future yeah. a few years ago, i didn't think i'd be alive and so it was really weird turning 18 and having plans to go to college and just all of the things that i get to do now at one point, i didn't know of lucy was going to live or die. and now i know lucy is going to do whatever she wants to do in this world. every single one of these kids gives us all hope today that no matter how hard your life is, things can get better one de to time it sounds like such a great program and and that young woman, lucy, her face just lit up when she was talking about her her sobriety, what effect that a school like this exists, say, about the state of the drug crisis in our country, especially among teens yeah, i mean, it's sad.
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>> i think that a school like this has to exist, but on the other hand, you're glad that it does, does it the physical embodiment of harm reduction, something that we've talked about a lot. i will tell you, anderson, just over the past few years you've, seen drug usage actually go down in the united states. but at the same time, the drugs have gotten stronger. they've gotten deadlier, and they are easier to obtain. i mean, keith was telling me these kids, they'll get the drugs off social media and they'll pay with venmo, which is a guess. no surprise, then that the number of overdoses in adolescence has doubled over the last several years. so it's an incredible program, but said that it has to exist at all. >> petro sanjay gupta, thanks so much i got it. >> thank you. >> sure. to join sanjay this saturday, may 18 at 9:00 p.m. eastern for the hour-long special champions for change with a look at 12 people making a difference. again, that's saturday at 9:00 p.m. eastern the news continues. the source for kaitlan collins starts now