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at accustoming.com closed captioning brought to you by meso book.com if you or a loved one have mesothelial, will send you a free book to answer questions you may have call now and we'll come to you 808 to one 4,000 tonight on three 60 breaking news, new details and how the former president's defense team plans to undermine michael cohen's testimony in the criminal hush money trial when court resumes tomorrow let me also tonight, president biden and the former president agree on two debates with cnn and abc. >> abc news, and george stephanopoulos joins us ahead and more breakings this evening, the latest and the attempted assassination of slovakia's prime minister caught on camera good evening. we start with our breaking news about how the former president's attorneys expected to go after michael cohen. we can cross-examination in the new york criminal hush money
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trial continues tomorrow, days after legal analyst criticized defense attorney todd blanche is initial approach and the new york times noted that his questions produce now, gotcha, moment. aside from a reprimand from the judge at the outset for making the cross about himself. i'm joined now by johnny jones, the third former chief judge for the us middle district of pennsylvania, former federal prosecutor jeffrey thuban. normal eyes and former counsel to house democrats are in the former president's first impeachment. he's also the author of trying trump, a guide to his first election interference criminal trial has been in the courtroom throughout, as has are correspondent kara scannell, who had tonight's breaking news. so what have you learned about what's going to happen tomorrow? >> so the name of the game tomorrow is going to be to try to focus on michael cohen's past statements and suggests to the jury that he's a liar and he can't be trusted. they just want to undercut his credibility. and one thing that they're going to look at are some of the passing months he's made under oath, and that is because he's under oath now, so they want to say to the jury, he has lied before under oath, you shouldn't believe him now and they got into a little
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bit of it with his past admission that he has pleaded guilty before congress, but at the civil fraud trial, michael cohen, under cross-examination by hi trump's lawyers said that he had lied to federal judgment. he pled guilty to tax fraud, and he has said publicly that repeatedly. so that is an error. they're going to focus on because they want to suggest the jury that they can't believe the story so much of this could come down to whether the jury believes michael cohen. and so the name of the game tomorrow is really to try to show that he's the liar who can't be trusted. they're also going to focus on the conversations that cohen says he had with donald trump because he's the only one that was involved in those conversations. and the only witness to testify that trump knew and approved this repayment scheme involving calling it a retainer. no other witnesses testified to that, so it's a two-fold thing. they want to say that he shouldn't be believed and to just raise questions about any of these recollections that he's have conversations with donald trump morning that seems like a reasonable defense is an excellent strategy. i wonder
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why they did do it on tuesday the problem is that the prosecution and mr. cohen are laying in wait for these arguments. we talked when i was with you. yesterday about drawing this thing the prosecution presenting details in advanced to the jury. so there's no surprise on this lying to a federal judge cohen explained on his direct that he doesn't disagree with the underlying facts that are alleged about his tax crimes, what he meant was he shouldn't have been prosecuted for such ticky tack issues as a first-time offender. and he felt he had to plead guilty because his wife was placed under duress. they gave them a short fuse. we're going to charge your wife so the explanations are there. we'll see who the jury believes it is a reasonable strategy. attack
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his credibility and go after the substance. you know what, i just don't understand about this is sure i mean, it makes a certain amount of sense but why not use michael cohen as a witness for you for example, this is a case about donald trump ordering or creating or causing false documents. why not ask michael cohen, did donald trump ever touch any of these documents? did he ever process any of these checks? >> did he know what the software was? >> is see the bookkeeper at this company, all of those answers are helpful to the defense and you don't have to accuse him of lying for that. why not use michael cohen for his knowledge of how the trump organization worked to undermine the idea that donald trump had anything to do with the preparation of the documents that are but this case or it's about well, here's here's what i'm thinking about. you know, you have todd blanche who has the most difficult client in the united states. now, think of a
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broadway show that opens its highly touted. that's his cross-examination the other day. and reviews aren't good they're coming in and the producer that what's going on here. and you know, the former president is reading all these reviews. so this is a momentum shift blanche had the momentum or some momentum with him on tuesday tomorrow, the momentum shifts the pressure is on him. i think to be as incisive and as good as he could be. and he's got a witness to your point, who's prepped and ready for these arguments, and it's gonna be a tough day for him. he's feeling the weight of the world on its entering, judge, because so many people were high expectations for blanche on his his first cross-examination the the expectations could not have been lower from michael cohen, which to your point, and he seemed to certainly surpass that and remain calm. and
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successfully deflect a lot of stuff with leinz seem to have been worked out in advance but like, you know, it sounds like something i would say do you think he can i were you were you surprised by his testimony? how i would not have started with the so-called shock and awe question. i just don't think that was a way to go. good cross has been described as a box you built around the witness and then you play i'm the top shut at the end of the cross. i thought it was meandering. i didn't understand the purpose of it it's tough when you have a witness who's ready for you and his game plan and prepare. i don't know what he's gonna do though, because he's got to shift gears quickly and he can't go too long because he's going to get hurt if he goes to war on it's a tough, tough situation right now. points go to, i think cohen, he's he's more credible they've got work to do and credit where credit is due to the da because they very
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skillfully played the expectation game throughout the trial. they elicited criticism of cohen from every witness, so they suppress the jury is the ultimate audience for the expectations based suppress the jury and the judges expectations. and i was watching the jury and at different points in cohen's testimony, you had the jury does always do this. i counted one of the things today. there was at 1.6 jurors who were nodding or smiling, or agreeing with cohen at one point in his testimony, it's like a presidential debate. both sides want to suppress expectations. the de, did that brilliantly in setting this moment and you don't want, i don't know farm all this clairvoyance about what the jury is thinking i mean, we'll see moyers, lawyers and judges are the worst at trying to judge what you're for by the judge and
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the beginning of your cross-examination and told don't make this cross-examination about you bad. look that the jury notices that sort of thing they do. i mean, they can't hear exactly what's going on at sidebar little here and there let's hear anything. but they know somebody's in the penalty box at that point takes you off your strike. >> you could see the judge berating blanche. it was now. you can understand. and then he ordered the questions struck from the record and the jury did here that care when do you anticipate the case? could be in the hands of the jury? >> i mean, i think by next week because there's no other witness after cohen. so even if cross goes all day tomorrow, the prosecution will have redirect with him. and if this goes all day tomorrow, they're going to want to spend some time with cohen if trump's team decides they're not going to call this expert witness, then it comes down to does donald trump take the stand? and if he doesn't, then we'll move right into closing arguments. so this could be in the hands of the jury hey, next week. >> all right. we'll be watching to everyone. thank you. coming up tonight. bipartisanship may
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be dead, but occasionally, deals do get done. president biden and the former president today agree to two presidential debates. the first one will be on cnn, the second on abc. george stephanopoulos for maybe she knew to join us tonight also ahead more breaking news, the latest and the attempted assassination of the prime minister slovakia. there was caught on camera, his condition in the investigation ahead i spent a lot of time thinking about dirt at three in the morning and you know, what people don't know. is that not all der is the same. >> union a dirt with the right kind of nutrients. look at this new organic soil from miracle grow. >> everybody should have it, it worked great for us. >> this is as good as golden any garden. >> if people only knew that it really is about the dirt your dirt nerd huge turret nerd i'm proud of it you're calling some people find there's at an early age others later in life
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anchorman that escalated quickly. a presidential debate schedule that had been opened the year. thank you. harry suddenly came together today over the course of a few social media posts by president biden hi, than the former president and after what sources say we're weeks have been formal discussions between the campaigns. and now, on june 27th, six weeks from tomorrow night right here and cnn, the first presidential debate. it's the earliest debate in a presidential campaign and television history. second debate was also announced this morning scheduled for september 10th, airing on abc news the flurry of activity began this morning when president biden released this video donald trump lost two debates to me in 20 $0.20 said he hadn't shown up for debate. >> now he's acting like he wants to debate me again. well, make my day pal. i'll even do it twice. so let's pick the dates. donald, i hear you're free on wednesdays an animated president biden dropping a reference to not only clint eastwood, but also the one de of the week the foreign president has always free from his new york criminal trial.
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>> soon after the foreign president confirmed his participation in a series that equally combative post on social media, quote joe biden as the worst debater i've ever faced, he can put two sentences together. he ended the post by saying, quote, just tell me when i'll be there. let's get ready to rumble joined now by david axelrod from your senior adviser and president obama, or senior data reporter harry enten and kaitlan collins recovered the trump white house and anchors the source next hour on cnn david, is this a wise decision by the biden campaign and given trump is leading in many swing states, or you surprise, he appears so eager to debate and so early yeah, well, well, there are a couple of things there. i think he needs to debate. this is a close race everyone's seen his pose, they have their own polls. he knows that he has to cross this hurdle. the whole predicate of the trump campaign and you sought reflected in that tweet, is that biden as old and feeble and incapable? pool of being president and the debate is the hurdle that he has to cross. he needs to
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dispel that notion in that debate. and they know they need to take care of that, to take that opportunity, but they also i thought negotiated very, very wisely. trump was eager for it. he kept saying, i'll debate anytime, anywhere and they took him up on it. and now they've got a debate that's not going to be a roman colosseum, but in a television studio without an audience, which disadvantages trump and it's early which gives you a chance to recover if the debate is not not good some of us who are old enough to remember, remember 1980 when jimmy carter debated ronald reagan once and he did it a week before the election. the debate didn't go well for carter and the race was over. i think biden understands that history. so getting early debates and getting them out of the way is also very wise, i think caitlin, do you have any information or any field for how the trump team is sort of approaching this. and with the risk versus reward, well, i mean they really had no option
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but to take president biden up on this offer when he posted this video today, because it every trump rally, an event that he does, and even chris lacivita, one of his campaign managers, they had this slogan it says anywhere, anytime, any place because they've been kinda putting this off are out there seeming to bet on the idea that the biden team would be reluctant to debate. and so when president biden issued this video, they can take them up when there was a time and a place after that's kinda what they've been daring them to do. >> i think that when you speak to the people inside the trump campaign, they honestly believed that that trump will fare better against biden in these debates than he did in 2020. >> obviously, they mocked biden's age and ability at every single turn of trump's campaign. he does it, you know, going into the courthouse even which was notable that biden referenced that there because he doesn't often talk about trump's legal cases. and for him to do that in this video was remarkable cobol. but they feel quite confident about it. i do think it's a question though of sometimes trump's sets the the bar so low as he
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did with the state of the union as he did with the 2020 debates. and that when biden is able to come up there and debate him and perform, it shifts the expectations of what people believe bij be doing. >> that's certainly the hope of the biden white house indicator just like this. they were certainly pleased with the state of the union. >> of course, the lower the bar, the easier it is to jump over those expectations. it was for the state of the union, it was for the first 2020 debates. so that's a big question that trump team feels confident though that for years have changed biden and there'll be able to come across looking better harriet, david referenced jimmy carter reagan debate, what's the data show about the history of the debates in terms of the impact they've had. yeah, i'm gonna go with debates that actually occurred while i was registered to vote. >> so why don't we look over the last three cycles and what we see is the debates can have a tremendous impact on what's going on. there have been real debate bumps back in 2016 2012, 2020, we've seen bumps. we saw a bump from it, romney coming in at first debate of about four percentage points, hillary clinton saw a bump against
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donald trump about five. joe biden soil bump about four. and i think that's to me illustrates in my own mind, donald trump saying, i really want these debates. but the fact is he's actually fared quite poorly in them. and there's a lot at stake for donald trump in these debates, because although he's a hand, the polls right now, i'm not quite sure we recognize how tight this race really isn't the states that matter. look at those great lake battleground states, look at those poles that came out from the new york times, sienna college this, earlier this week. and what we see in those states are very close races. joe biden up by a point in one and state down trump up by one another and up by three. and pennsylvania. so essentially, if we see the bumps that we saw on the prior years and apply them to the polls right now, joe biden might be trailing right now, but he may be coming out of those debates if he does well, leading in the race. >> david, i mean, incumbent presidents are historically rusty in their first general election debates prison obama's first debate against mitt romney knee comes to mind. i'm sure it comes to mind in maybe nightmares you have as well. can you explain why incumbents have have that problem and how they expect you
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know, how a president avoid that? >> yeah, they have that problem because they haven't debated for a long time nobody gets in there grill when you present the united states, people may challenge you, but you're not, they're not four feet away and getting in your grill and they habitually want to defend their records when you want to do is follow a strategic script and put the opponent on the defensive and look, we experienced it in 2000 and i circled that data in red months in advance because of the history of this and i and we worked really hard to try and keep president obama from being too defensive in the debates by getting to into the weeds on his record and so on. and we failed. and it took romney just took us to the cleaners in that debate, we recovered in the next debate but this is a real problem and it is a particular problem i think for president
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biden that they're going to have to be careful about because he tends to be very much about wanting to defend his record and tout his record and he could he could really be subject to this ron klain is going to be preparing them as chief is former chief of staff very, very masterful debate, prep guy who's been through a lot of these, including with us. i think he will be alert to that and the question is, can biden keep from getting baited? >> caitlin, i want to play a clip from the biden first biden and trump debate back in 2020 i'm going to factor, make sure you in fact, let people know. he doesn't want to senator russia. i'm not going to answer the question the question. >> the question. just left. would you base and who is on your list, joe, don't you right, gentlemen. i think pack the court i mean wow. >> i feel like i need like ibuprofen. i mean, i remember
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that debate. i was in the room and sometimes it's harder to watch something when you're actually in the room four and especially a debate like that, then that even being at home, i mean, these things are created for at-home audiences but you couldn't hear anything that either of them was saying. they were just screaming over one another? no one walked away from that debate, having learned anything or benefited in any way, it was like the happy gilmore reference. >> and it was just i mean, it was the moment where the trump campaign after that they thought he did really poorly in that debate. >> they thought he did a lot better. the second debate, but thing is they felt like it was too late. the impression had said it. and what's interesting about the dates of this is june. they feel both campaigns that could provide enough time that if there is a stumble that they have months before the next one or months before some people cast their votes, it could benefit biden more given early voting is something they really count on. >> the one thing i'll say different is the mics can be cut off, which is notable. no audience, you're not going to have it where is it the mics are automatically cut off when the time is up or is it that
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they just can i believe it's that they have the power to be able to cut them off because that's essentially what the biden campaign wanted. >> this is the letter from jen o'malley dillon, who's working on on president biden's campaign. because they felt like it needed it just needs to have some control structure. >> i guess it's not until like cut you off, but i mean, sometimes they don't stop talking. i know that feeling from kayla. thank you. david thank you, please. >> coming up next for turning to the breaking news about the trump team's strategy for the second day of michael cohen's cross-examination, abc news anchor george stephanopoulos joins me, afraid to take on the historic trial. his new book. and we'll get his thoughts on the upcoming biden trump debate as well. >> but i think what the role turn everyone comfortable. >> yet there's plenty of space just wait the volkswagen atlas
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breaking news from the top of the hour, new details and the trump defense team strategy for questioning michael cohen tomorrow with the hush money trial continues sources telling cnn the defense plans to focus on what it says, realize that cohen has told in the past, including wall under oath, the plan to undermine cohen's its credibility as the only witness who has actually tie the former president to falsify business records, want to talk about it now as well as the newly announced debates on cnn and abc between president biden, his predecessor, abc news anchor and veteran of the clinton white house, george stephanopoulos joins me also georgia's the author of a fascinating new book that situation room the inside story of presidents in crisis. >> i wanna get to the book in a moment, george. but first i got to ask you about these two historic for number of reasons, general election debates, how they came together today. what do you think? yeah that was a big move by president biden two kind of preempt the commission and come out and challenges a bit. i was surprised at how quickly it came together. i'm glad that you guys are doing one of the abc is going to do one as well. i do think that i
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was actually skeptical the debates we're going to happen because the experience lastly, yeah but i do think that the rules that president biden has stipulated can help make it better than that disastrous debate from four years ago that you guys were just talking about a couple of minutes ago? so let me no audience having the mics cut off when your time runs out could help make it could help make it a more constructive debate. so i do think at least for sure the first one is going to happen. i hope they both do. >> the first event is going to be the earliest in history, six weeks from tomorrow on cnn and the abc one is in september where do you think the schedule benefits either campaign more i think biden wanted to shake up the race a little bit. >> so probably you could argue that it benefits them a little bit more to have the early debate and the also gives each candidate more time to recover if they have a bad the paper part of that is also of
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necessity it's kinda, we've all learned this from four years ago. it's kind of a misnomer to think of election day voting in so many states starts in september yeah. and so much, so many of the votes are cast by november that it does make more sense to have the debates. i think earlier in the cycle, i do think that makes, that makes more sense and especially when this time around when there's just no mystery about there hasn't been for a long time, but who the candidates were going to be it does make some sense to have it earlier in the summer. there's a moment in your new book, the situation room where you talk about the trump white house and the level of distrust between everyone. you write that as fixer michael cohen was taping conversations all the time. you interviewed cone, you what he's like how remarkable is it to you that the first criminal trial of a former president hinges on his testimony it's really something and i was i've known michael cohen for a long time. i was receiving end of many angry phone calls when he was a trump loyalist. i've had
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analysts conversations with him since then as he's switched loyalties and it is kind of i mean, and you know, this as well anderson, when he was closed president trump, donald trump at the time, no one was more ferocious pitbull. he talked about taking a bullet for president trump, but he's now for several years going back to 2018, has had a complete switch and a complete switch and loyalties to what he says is his family and his country. and as you were just setting up this whole segment is going to be interesting to see whether the fact that michael cohen was an inveterate liar for donald trump ends up hurting donald trump, are helping you. >> yeah, your book does something which i haven't really heard much about, which is really taking people inside this situation room is during crises for various presidents. >> you chronicle what was going on in the situation room during the attack on the capitol on january 6. >> and you write that a desk
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officer told you they went into quote, continuity of government situation on january 6, which something that was designed to ensure the government so function after disaster like a nuclear war or do you think that the general public fully grasp how big a deal that was january i open the book with that because i think they should because it was this is a white house duty officer who is telling me that he's on line with the secret service and others at the capitol, and they're not sure this president is going to survive that day. and this is at the same time that the president united states at the time is tweeting out and attack on mike pence and that's something that jd vance, by the way, senator recently was poo-pooed saying, oh, this is an exaggeration. >> i don't think that vice president is really in any danger. >> yeah. i asked mike stigler about that because i interviewed him for gma the other day as well and he says they can think whatever they want. i was there george. stephanopoulos, the book, the situation room, the inside story of presidents in crisis.
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it's available now george. >> thank you so much thanks, anderson, coming up weeks after pro-palestinian protests broke out at colleges around the country has seen an investigation now reveals new details about who was actually behind some of the violence that one particular night the ucla campus and counter-protesters showed up. we'll have more ahead so what's the codes as 547 but that's all working that's really needs to we're gonna get into it's not present her say you're a valued customer presented div we can go in the window meanwhile at a, vrbo when other vacation rentals leave you hanging, try one where you can reach a human in about a minute discover our
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four imprint.com. in brynn, for certain. >> i'm learned box on capitol hill. and this commencement celebrations are underway at columbia university weeks after pro-palestinian protests and golf for campus culminating in more than 100 arrests by the new york police department after demonstrators barricaded
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themselves inside a school building university leadership has opted to hold smaller events after canceling the university-wide commencement ceremony in the wake of the protests encampments protesting the war in gaza sprung up on college campuses around the country over the past months. >> on one particular night at ucla's some counter-protesters attacker pro-palestinian encampment. or it lai has been investigating who some of those counter protesters were. your server port this is the worst violence of any of the ongoing college protests ucla, where counter protesters used sticks and boards against a pro-palestine encampment it was more than three hours of unrestrained violence the night of april 30th to injuries and bloody seeds it's campus security enforcement allowed it to continue. >> they were there spraying or they're pulling barriers and they were there to vary clearly
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do some serious harm to the students who are on campus when you look at the counter, protesters, how many of them were ucla students? i would say basic but none of them. >> who are the most aggressive offenders. a cnn investigation of hundreds of videos from multiple sources shows many of them are outsiders not ucla students among the people who showed up that night, far-right agitators with no apparent connection to the middle east war. others driven by pro, beliefs among them, this man you strikes a pro-palestine protest or with a long white pole and as part of a mob that pummels the man as he falls to the ground. he's seen in multiple videos wearing this white masks striking the barriers, throwing objects into the encampment without his mask, we see who he is 18
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year-old, e-dawn on of beverly hills, a senior at a local high school sides of the kitchen. >> how do i get inspired? >> i spoke with his mother. >> hi, there. are you sure rock high hi. >> i'm let me introduce us. >> she did not want to be on camera quickly identified her son from this picture at ucla that night she described in detail how her son found the mask and pull on the ground and said he was defending himself in this fight. on her facebook page, e-dawn owns mother posted and circled a screen grab of her son from a local tv station. >> she wrote in hebrew e-dawn went to bully the palestinian students and the tense that ucla he dan's mother and father proudly support israel and defended their son's actions at saying he is heading to israel to join the idf after our interview, she texted to say e-dawn denies being at ucla older men were also at the front of the violence tom debian accorded, pulling bike
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racks plywood kicking protesters, throwing cones at the students in the encampment, water bottles at protester and yelling expletive we went to ask debian why he'd gone to the campus that night. >> hi, mr. your mr. vivian. yeah. can you take that off? you don't have permission to record me. >> vivian was wearing the same jacket he had on in the video from ucla. he's a los angeles resident with age 42, seen at a 2022 pro-trump protests outside the los angeles fbi office did not want to explain why he's on video doing this. >> you're being a little rude and i'm going to call the police if you don't really sure. >> okay we identified not just on vivian, but other order men who had no apparent affiliation with uc the la. i mean, you've seen them at how many other events lots of different events, school board meetings, city council meetings angie gabbana is the los angeles area
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public school mom, who's been tracking right-wing protesters in our area. >> the group who she'd seen protesting gay rights and public schools were drawn to ucla that night. the revolution an avenue tonight man down, man down, though they were clearly at ucla that night, there's no evidence these men participated in the violence. your golf, the joules song, bad cover your ears. >> the man who was live streaming, norc polygon appears to be a persistent agitator who posts anti-jewish tropes on his social media accounts to he stood with the pro israel crowd i am qian law from cnn, apollyon claim to us that he has a child at ucla, though a student didn't accompany him that night, and that he had good intentions. i was definitely keeping the peace. okay. at least trying to you weren't there to make it worse? >> of course, i was in there to make it worse i hate to say it,
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but i was expecting us to start working on obituary the next day because i thought something that's serious would happen to the students in the encampment you feel like they won based on the way they were cheering when the police arrived tuesday night i think they might feel i thought they one quinoa luck joins me out. >> it's still starting to me that the police i mean, there seemed to be some police around, but it seemed clearly didn't seem like police really moved in very quickly at all to stop this and can you can clearly find these people what's law enforcement saying? they're gonna do or if anything yeah. that's a very good question and we actually asked them, we went to the key law enforcement agencies. we started with ucla police department. we reached out to
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them via email, their office line, text messages, self phones, and despite are numerous attempts and very specific questions, we did not get any response, a clear response about their response that night or any follow-up investigation. we also reached out to the chp and lapd. they referred back to the ucla police department and back to your question, anderson. i mean, we did identify by not just the folks that you saw on the story, but additional people, you'll see them in that story that will post tomorrow morning on cnn.com. >> i understand. well, thanks very much. still ahead. more breaking news, we have new videos showing the aftermath of the assassination attempt against slovakia is prime minister today and new details and his condition and would officials are saying about the motive for the attack? >> ms bathroom? so musty new fast acting drop-in tab a traps and traps excess moisture, eliminating musty your skin is
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only 24, 95 i'm evan perez and washington. and this is cnn breaking news out of slovakia tonight after an assassination attempt against the prime minister, we got to new video of the actual attack that will show you in a moment when he was shot five times by gunmen. the video you see there is when he's being rushed away after the shooting following the attack and officials said the prime minister was quote, fighting for his life and his medical state was very complex. now the deputy prime minister says he's expected to survive and his quote, not in a life-threatening situation, cnn's nic robertson has that new video and details as prime minister robert fitzroy approaches a security back it would be assassin pulls a gun
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five shots fired into fit. >> so this filmed from another angle, the prime minister unable to walk manhandled by bodyguards into a car. the shooter instantly, wrestled to the ground. that's feet. so rushed to a nearby hospital for a spokesman said he was conscious. his life functions stabilized before being transferred by helicopter to another hospital about 30 kilometers away for higher level care more than three hours later the defense and interior ministers announcing the hey, i'm still in surgery fighting for his life. and this a motive. >> it's a political felt. it's absolutely clear and we have to react on that. >> no details from the country's two top security officials about the suspected assassin only extreme concern, his actions would trigger a
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violent backlash in this politically divided nation of 5 million people. >> but the orange shed chemo channel, i tell to all of our citizen is the answer to hate is not and cannot be hate i'm begging you all to stop. you have to stop spreading attacks and hatred. also through social networks and the media dummy have barney, the shooting occurred following a government meeting and handle over two when i was derived from the capital, this eyewitness said she was there to shake the prime minister's hand usual that events like this i heard three shots it was quick, one by one. like if you throw a firecracker on the ground, i saw scratch on his head and then he fell next to the barrier the reality, however, more than a scratch on their head, the president of the country declaring it a terrible, a malicious attack physical attack on the prime minister is primarily an attack
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on a person, but it is also an attack on democracy feed. >> so was never shy of courting controversy we'll see a divisive figure, a populist to his anti-immigration, anti islam anti-lgbtq and pro-putin and russia he had a political comeback last year, winning the elections as prime minister for a third time despite long running corruptions allegations he was forced to resign during his previous term amid mass protests over the murder of an investigative journalists in 2018 feet. so had no shortage of potential enemies nic robertson cnn, london joining me now a cnn senior international correspondent, fred pleitgen, who is in slovakia outside the hospital where the prime minister is being treated. what more do we know about his condition hi there anderson, what was certainly seems as though the
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doctors who were really fighting for his life for an extended period of time. >> the information that we're getting is that he was in surgery for several hours and not conscious for most of that time as well as the doctors were essentially trying to save his life. now, the thing that we heard from the politicians here in this country, they say that he suffered five gunshot wounds, you shot five times a by that would be assassin that we just saw. nick robertson's piece. now as of tonight, as of right now as i'm standing here the current situation is that they are saying that the wounds are not life threatening anymore. it's unclear whether or not robert feed so is conscious at this point in time. however, he is being treated here in this hospital and certainly seemed as though he is going to be at this hospital possibly for an extended period of time. again, he was airlifted here because this is a trauma center where they can create some severe wounds. obviously, the shooting happened a little bit away from here, but certainly right now it seems as though the politicians are saying not life-threatening anymore, but definitely still a dangerous situation. anderson, anything
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else known about a possible motive of the shooter yeah. it's very difficult to say the only thing that we have for the politicians here at right now from those two that we saw at that press conference, the interior minister the defense minister, they say they believed that this was politically motivated. >> the other thing they say is they believe that hate speech caused all of this. now, we saw their knicks report and certainly is the case. also. we know from reporting here on the ground in slovakia that of course robert fico was a very divisive figure here in the political landscape. certainly also because of its proximity to vladimir putin, to russia, also because of the fact that you wanted to cut off aid to ukraine as well? bell one of the things the policies instead is they said, look, they believe that those fissures that that hate speech might have caused all this, but they are still being very careful not to disclose the identity of the would-be shooter, and certainly a closer information as to what exactly the motivation could be anderson, fred pleitgen, thanks so much coming up next score that goes beyond education, that helps teens battle addiction. i mean,
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>> i am key so today's topic is about getting sober, how i got high i was miserable and active addictions pretty much every day every morning starts with something known as boat be opened and authentic together i can just sit and listen to that meeting. >> is one of the most powerful things. i think i've ever done. >> i remember this period of time where it was like if i wasn't high, i like was going to kill myself. there's this quote that said that the opposite of addiction is not sobriety the opposite of addiction is human connection. >> and that's what, that time period really is are you breaking new ground with a program like this? >> that's the hope i think a lot of other recovery high schools do a lot of clinical pieces. and that's cool. >> but i'm sorry. >> another 16. that looks like me. that sounds like me. that
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now has a year, 18 months, two years sober sharing with me what they did to get sober as better than any doctor or clinical person can ever do to help them. >> so how much of your own personal life experience is part of this role for you. >> i mean, it's everything i started. my journey in active addiction as early as 14, 15 years old have five felonies today felonies that i acquired while under the influence of drugs and alcohol and active addiction. >> it's hard to reconcile the man that's sitting in front of me with all that. >> yeah. >> are you the exception to the rule or are you the rule? >> there's a lot of us out here who have recreated our lives in recovery. but it is a part of my story and it is very important that i share those very terrible and inhumane things that i did an active addiction. so we can give hope to others that they can recover two so what are we about to see
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here? so now we're about to go into our biology, engineering, physics, chemistry, woodshop class. i like to biology of workshop together. i can to use that by doing project-based learning and allows the kids to be able to learn 21st century skills, learn how to collaborate well with others, how to problem-solve also core principles in recovery as well. >> it's like an emotional outlet for me. >> i love to create. you come here, you got to put in the work and the action i know every single kid i can tell you about their story. >> i can tell you what they've been through when they do make mistakes or things do happen, not beating them up about it lebanon them supporting them, and figure route. what do we need to do next to help them get to the next level i started drinking and using when i was 13 by. >> smoking crack and fentanyl and drinking and ended up getting narc canned and was in the hospital keith was like a really big support through all
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of that and we're just continuously show me that he loved me and cared about me. and i've been sober since then and now i have 17 months congratulations for that. thank you. >> do you dream about the future? >> yeah. >> a few years ago, i didn't think i'd be alive and so it was really weird turning 18 and having plans to go to college and just all of the things that i get to do now at one point, i didn't know of lucy was going to live or die. and now i know lucy is going to do whatever she wants to do in this world. every single one of these kids gives us all hope today that no matter how hard your life is, things can get better. one day at a time i was at such a great program and that young woman lucy, her face just lit up when she was talking about her her sobriety, what effect that a school like this exists say, about the state of the drug crisis in our country, especially among teens yeah, i mean, it's sad.