physics, chemistry, woodshop class. >> i like to biology of workshop together. i couldn't use that by doing project-based learning and allows the kids to be able to learn 21st century skills, learn how to collaborate well with others, how to problem-solve also, core principles in recovery as well. it's gonna emotional outlet for me i love to create. >> you come here, you got to put in the work the i know every single kid i can tell you about their story. >> i can tell you what they've been through when they do make mistakes or things do happen not beating them up about it the non them supporting them and figure out what do we need to do next to help them get to the next level i started drinking and using when i was 13 or smoking crack and fentanyl and drinking and ended up getting nar canned and was in the hospital. >> keith was like a really big support through all of that and would just continuously show me

that he loved me and cared about me and i've been serwer since then and now i have 17 months congratulations for that. thank you. >> do you dream about the future now? >> yeah. >> a few years ago, i didn't think i'd be alive and so it was really weird turning 18 and having plans to go to college and just all of the things that i get to do now one point, i didn't know of lucy was going to live or die and now i know lucy is going to do whatever she wants to do in this world. >> every single one of these kids gives us all hope today that no matter how hard your life is, things can get better. one de at a time it sounds like such a great program and, and you know that young woman lucy, her face just lit up when she was talking about her her sobriety what are the effects that a school like this exists, say, about the state of the drug crisis in our country, especially among teens yeah i mean it's sad. >> i think that a school like

this has to exist, but on the other hand, you're glad that it does. it's sort of the physical embodiment of harm reduction, something that we've talked about a lot. i will tell you, anderson, just over the past few years you've seen drug usage actually go down in the united states. but at the same time, the drugs have gotten stronger they have gotten deadlier, and they are easier to obtain. keith us telling me these kids they'll get the drugs off social media and they'll pay with venmo which is a guess, no surprise, then that the number of overdoses among adolescents has doubled over the last several years. so it's an incredible program, but said that it has to exist at all for sanjay gupta. >> thanks so much again. >> thank you sure. >> to join sanjay this saturday, may 18 and 9:00 p.m. eastern for the hour long special champions for change with a look at 12 people making a difference. again, that's saturday at 9:00 p.m. eastern. that's it for us. the news continues right here on cnn i'd front next breaking news, new reporting just into

outfront about the trump team's strategy in court tomorrow. >> and what is the most important day of the hi or hush money trial? >> we now know what team trump plans to zero in on with michael cohen plus more breaking news. this our a brazen assassination attempt a world leader, close putin ally shot five times in broad daylight still in the hospital, as i speak, will tell you what we know haley doing it again primary after primary double-digit support, even though she dropped down to the race months ago. so where are these supporters going to go? >> let's go out good evening. >> i'm erin burnett and we begin out front tonight with the breaking news. the trump is too cheap defense. >> so paula reid has this incredible new reporting tonight about team trump's strategy heading into what they say will be the most important day of trump's criminal trial. >> so in just hours, michael cohen's going to return to the stand and cnn is learning that trump's lead attorney todd blanche, right, who's doing the

cross plans to zero in on just how cheap trump is using that cheapness to say that trump would never have agreed to quote gross up the stormy daniels hush money payment to michael cohen and this is what goes right to that part of the entire criminal case, which is the alleged fraud of business documents. remember, not illegal to pay the hush money payment. >> it is how and when the payment happened. >> that matters trump's basically going to say he was way too cheap to gross up that hundred $30,000 payment now, this will be a very clear shift from what we saw on tuesday blanche and cohen went back and forth talking about cohen's profanity laden posts about trump, how much money cohen made from his books and podcasts and anti-trump coffee mugs and t-shirts and the cross tuesday was confusing for any of us who were in the room. harry litman, a former deputy assistant attorney general, said, and i quote, harry, my basic assessment, cross is not crisp, clean, or quick enough. the managing editor of lawfare said, most of it boring and

seemingly aimless. and even this piece from fox use cross-examination throws michael cohen off balance, but belabor is point that he hates trump the labors and buoying, boring, not glowing reviews and it may be not trump lawyers fault, not blanche's volodymyr trump, of course, is the client. and in this case, not a client who takes direction. a client who gives direction, a client who calls the shots. >> his legal team has managed to stay on trump's good side by doing what trump wants them to do. >> tap, tap on the shoulder hand the note and an immediate reaction from blanche or beauvais or necklace. >> so will that change tomorrow? >> remember that blanche here is a well-regarded former federal prosecutor. he has a very good reputation. he's taken on people accused of murder, and he does know what he's doing in a courtroom and as we're closing in on this crucial day of testimony, questions are now growing as to whether trump himself will actually testify. of course, he has said he would is lawyers haven't fully shut down the idea but the trump will do this. and that is going to be the crucial question so much at

stake with how this cross goes tomorrow. and paula reid is out front to begin our coverage live in new york tonight. and paula is your incredible new reporting here at the center of what trump's team is planning tomorrow. tell us everything you're learning was you just said, this is the game, the cross-examination of michael cohen tomorrow will likely decide this case. and i've learned that they are going to now start focusing on what he said during his a direct examination and his previous statements about this case, they're gonna zero in on some new things that he revealed while he was on the stand. >> and also look at some statements that they believe have been inconsistent. >> in addition to trying to challenge his memory of conversations he had with then candidate trump back in in 2016. they're also going to challenge this idea that cohen wasn't doing any legal services for trump or that this gross up money was not meant to be paid he meant for legal services and point to the fact that michael cohen has never had a retainer in the entire time that he worked for trump.

so that should not be something that is a once now, the goal here, aaron, is not to destroy michael cohen on the stand. the goal of the rest of this cross-examination is just so doubt in the minds of at least one juror that they should make such a significant decision based on the testimony of this man. now, this cross-examination of michael cohen could go until monday and then it's unclear if the defense is going to call any witnesses, but they may call just one expert witness to the stand, which means the jury could have this case by thursday. >> wow. all right. paula, thank you very much. and our experts are all with me. so paul martin, hours away from michael cohen coming back on to the stand. an interesting, they're gonna go right to the heart of it to basically say this, the fraud here it's not something trump would have done. well, because he wouldn't have gross it up. >> well, it's about time because enough of beating them up at 11 issue is not whether he lied to congress. it's not whether he lied to another court. if the issue is is he

lying to this jury? >> and i think blanche is going to have to really cross-examined him and bring out the fact that what he said in his previous testimony is untrue then force him to admit that he's a liar to them, to them in this specific case. >> that's correct. necessarily, you know, todd blanche well you know, when i was sitting in the room the other day when he started out and he was livid, right? >> calling out a post that michael cohen had posted with profanities about todd blanche that got struck stricken from the record and and then there was this for such a strong start at then there were moments it was boring. i'll be honest. so they in the room, you know, todd blanche worked for him for many years. >> do you think he felt that and he's going to bring it tomorrow? i think that was an unusual place for todd to start and it didn't go well for him. it was objected to the judge shirtless, left him down and he had to pivot. he started and then he went into sort a lot of questions about motive here. what is michael cohen's motive to testify to make money or he

hated trump? that's right. when i think he made those points and really needed to move on. i mean cross-examinati on doesn't always produce those aha moments. those tv moment, some of it is just plotting and boring and it's a way to poke little holes, little paper cuts, and the witnesses story that ultimately the defense is going to stand end up at the end of the de and say, all of these little thing show that michael cohen is incredible. >> so daniel as a foreign manhattan assistant district attorney you know, having been in these rooms before, what is at stake for blanche tomorrow. >> so i think what's at stake for him is he is really, as paul said, he's really got to cut to the the chase. he cannot waste time. i know that there has been some reporting that the cross examination may go until monday. he really needs to bring it home and get to the point. and if the defenses as paulus its tank trump is too cheap, he's gotta be very careful that the prosecution has spent weeks building

evidence it's to show how engaged donald trump is in the minutiae of the finance of his organization. and that's a very, very fine line for him to walk. >> it's definitely what do you think of the trump is too cheap to actually have agreed to gross up that money. defense so when i was listening to you, i was actually smiling. erin, because it's true. he's known for not paying people and that he can be quite cheap, but i think to me that just shows how much he wanted to cover this up, but how important it was that story, not get out there before the election day. so i don't it makes no sense to me that seems kinda random. i don't feel like it will backfire. >> yeah, it is. i mean, it's new in terms of what paul, we're hearing. i mean, but i guess the question is if it doesn't go well tomorrow or as well as they think it needs to go then you got the question of trump himself yes. >> and that's interesting question because i wouldn't put him on the stand if if my last dollar or 130,000 of it

dependent upon it, but listen, this man controls his attorneys and he doesn't listen to his attorneys. his attorneys want him to stay away from that witness stand. the process kushan, once him to take the issue. >> we're saying he will have to deal with questions literally along the lines of what color were your what color were your box. >> okay. i was gonna go with pajamas, but you're right box? yes. >> so he's going to answer those questions. those are questions that he's uncomfortable with and he's also in a position where he's not gonna be able to pivot and walk away the prosecution is going to keep him on that witness stand and are going to get the answers that they want to hear he's not going to have the question. the answers that he needs to answer to get him acquitted i'm just curious, sir, when you look at this, like do you do you understand why todd blanche is in this position to begin with? >> i mean, we've talked about i mean, obviously is a great reputation many years i know you think very highly of him. he's chosen to go out on his own, have one client work at a 40 wall street via home near mar-a-lago. does any of that surprise you? >> i mean, it's a decision that i think other defense

attorneys wouldn't have made trump puzzle long history of falling out with his lawyers, long history of not paying his lawyers this was i'm sure todd wait a lot of factors before making this decision, he gave up what was prestigious job and partnership at a procedures firm to do this. so he had his reasons. i don't know what they were but definitely some others would have made a different decision, right? >> all the eggs in one basket as they may say, danielle obviously trump. we've got back question of whether he will go on the stand and there were a couple of witnesses that the defense was talking about, maybe an expert witness. do you think it's worth it for them to put anyone on the stand i just don't know how an expert jibes with this defense. >> right. they have tried to impeach desperately the credibility of the two key witnesses, right? stormy daniel's were actually three, keith davidson and now michael

cohen. so what is an expert going to add to this? i mean, they've essentially said these witnesses made this up for all of their various reasons. so how does an ev what is an expert? an add to this? i'm not really sure i understand what the strategy would be for that. >> stephanie trump keeps saying he wants to testify, then he said, oh, well, my lawyers told me not to write. he sees opening giving giving the cracking the door open to not actually doing it. do you think he really wants to thank is ego? of course, wants to he wants to go in there and fight. it doesn't like again, that he's been sitting at a table and he hasn't been able to say anything. he talks about this gag order all the time. but i don't think there's a chance he'll he'll do it and he will continue to blame blame his lawyers. they'll blame the judge. you'll say it's because of the gag order which we know is not true. so he he knows the stakes and so he won't do it. but i'm sure there's a part of him that's itching to paul. can i just from where we are right now, how far is the process where are we on

reasonable doubt? right. you need one juror to have a reasonable doubt. that's all you need. where are we right now and that have have they proved it beyond? reasonable doubt with what we have seen thus far with texts or text to allen weisselberg with gross up on the sheet of paper. where you've been in the courtroom i think they brett made out of prima facie case, but who knows what's going on in the minds of the jurors. someone may not, unlike the way stormy daniels turned one way or they didn't like the way cohen made an answer answer to this question or that answer the real issue is going to be, i think in this case, the summations. and if trump doesn't take the stand, if trump doesn't take the stand, this is going to be in a summations case that will win in the closing statement, correct. so when you look at it what i find so far has been so much emphasis to stormy daniels and michael oh, and did you hate trump? >> well, yeah, obviously they did and they both said that, right? >> i mean, not at the time. right. but that they do now. but there's been an extraordinary amount of time spent proving that they hate donald trump when they both

posted such on social media again and again and again, it's not a secret. >> what's the purpose of that? >> defense team is really trying to undermine their credibility and they're doing it any way they can at the end of the day here in order to convict the jury has to believe michael cohen. michael cohen gave the crucial evidence and the last few days regarding these meetings with trump won with trump and weisselberg one with trump at the white house. the jury has to believe michael cohen's version of those events, i think to convict here so whatever the defense team can do to undermine michael cohen's recollection of those events, his credibility generally is going to help them help bring them to the finish. >> is there a piece of it? evidenced thus far it in or that you think is most crucial to proving beyond a reasonable doubt that trump directed this i think it's just the whole melange of small pieces and big pieces in some ways, i think

that some of the most compelling evidence came from the people both from trump world. >> the assistance, the secretaries, the controllers, who talked about like hope hicks did, it's a small family business and it's run very tightly, very carefully in some ways that to me is the most damaging evidence because it just completely eviscerate any defense that trump didn't know about this or wasn't engaged with it at stephanie, i guess it does boil down at the bottom line. if you take the gross sub number and you add in the extra legal fees or whatever they're saying, about $400,000 alors. is there any way that you can see from everything you know of trump that that any such amount would have left without his knowledge absolutely not. >> i think madeline, when madeleine westerhout talked about how he looked at everything, he was very thorough. that is how he was with everything, whether it was communications or for finances. i remember for a convention the rnc convention that we're going to have on the white house lawn for the 2020 election. we had

to fight with him about the small dollar amount to cater food for people on the white house lawn so that was the president united states arguing with east wing about food. and it was like 5,000 some dollars. so absolutely. that is who he is. he looks at everything. >> all right. thank you all very much. i appreciate it powerful anecdote there. >> next the breaking news we do have new video of a world leader gone down in broad daylight today, officials are giving more details about what motivated this attempted disaster nation. we're live outside the hospital is in surgery. we understand right now. plus russia making gains in the major ukrainian city of kharkiv. we're live on the ground. there are nick peyton walsh's there, and stocks at all time highs tonight for new inflation report president the federal reserve bank of chicago is out front if you. >> were stationed, working or living at camp zhun between 1953 and 1987, and you or a loved one have suffered from severe illness, you may be ella

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fighting for his life, obviously shot almost point blank five times the authority saying all this happened at an off-site government meeting in central slovakia that he was supposed to check fair. >> and before that meeting, apparently, he was going to greet some people in the crowd. and that is when a gunman opened fire. now the government of this country says that all of this was politically motivated and it's certainly happened in broad daylight. and i do want to warn our view are some of the images you're about to see are very disturbing. here's what we're learning an assassination attempt in broad daylight slovakia's prime minister, robert feet. so shot and unable to walk. bodyguards rushing him into a car the alleged shooter still just feet away, tackled by police so was shot multiple times and immediately rushed to the hospital then airlifted to a major trauma center. his condition is life threatening according to the slovakian

government roberts pizza is still fighting for his life. slovakia's defense minister says, it's supposed to go. >> it's absolutely clear. >> one eyewitness said the scene felt like, quote, a nightmare and described hearing quick shots ring out in the crowded area those are stable. it was quick one-by-one, like if you throw a firecracker on the ground, i saw a scratch on his head and then he fell next to the barrier no one else was injured in the shooting, which happened in the central slovak town of handlova but just after an off-site government meeting, you stay moon, this was speed. >> so right before the attack, speaking calmly at a press conference, like any other day? pizza, who served two previous terms as prime minister. divisive figure in slovakia and across europe he won a third term last year by running on a campaign to end military support for ukraine making, no secret of his sympathies for russia pizza is known for being

anti-immigration anti lgbtq rights, and very critical of the european union. >> but in the immediate aftermath of this assassination attempt, politics has been set aside. one of slovakia's opposition parties also calling it an attack on the nation's security well, it doesn't attack on the prime minister is clearly an attack on the internal security of slovakia many in this country of about 5.5 million people deeply shaken and shocked by the violence i think it's a nightmare that this is not possible to happen in slovakia so that you can see very little known at this point in time, aaron about the actual alleged gunman, a certainly, of course, there is a big investigation that's going on here in this country. one of the things that we did mentioned in our report ford, is that a feat? so is obviously very close to vladimir putin and therefore very controversial figure, not just in europe, but in this country here as well, vladimir putin also one of the people

who spoke out today calling what happened here today, a monstrous crime and also saying he hopes that robert fits. so we'll pull through aaron fred. >> thank you very much. in slovakia. >> and also tonight, russian forces pushing closer to kharkiv, any northeast ukraine, a major city home to more than 1 million people out front, obtaining a video update from the city's mayor tonight, who tells us that constant battles, those are his words are underway there as the russians are striking residential areas from the air here he is you should use. the russians have become more active in the tactics they are using now, our tactics to intimidate people, to destroy housing, to destroy communications this is a tactic to intimidate people to force them to leave the city nick paton walsh is out front live from kharkiv, ukraine and nick, obviously you have been there many times throughout this war scene. >> it liberated. now seeing

again these attacks, how fast or russian troops moving toward the city yeah, look, it is frankly horrifying how we've seen a completely new front opened by russia, france, did you say which we've seen kicked out? >> so in 2022, i was near study salty up towards vovchansk, a key border town today. and just reminding myself, standing there, how we'd seen the russians pushed out of their late 2022. this is probably the worst moment for ukraine on the front lines since the early months of the war itself. and behind me, you can barely see harkey if a reflection of the light discipline they have here we've had missiles landing in the past hours. other booms, it's above chance on the border where russia appears to be seen the most progress ukraine admitting to that their troops had put themselves and more favorable positions. that's basically a euphemism for a tactical withdrawal there and a police chief said there was gunfire in the city i spoke to one woman who'd been just been evacuated this afternoon. she said she'd been in a basement hearing the town on

fire for days and knew that russian troops from the neighboring street. so it appears things are very grave in that particular the town. also, russia seems it has its hands on about double-digits worth of villages along that border area. that goal it seems to keep pushing south towards this ukraine's second city potentially putting their artillery and range that maybe one goal, another goal potentially is to force ukraine to rush forces north from already very heavily stretched front lines in the east and in the south. that's something president volodymyr zelenskyy today warned he was cognizant of as he counseled or foreign travel. remember part of his job? it was going on, allies trying to get more arms faster. >> the real fear erin is in the last week or months we've seen russia make extensive progress in the east. >> tiny villages, people barely ever spoke of, but essentially lining themselves up for a summer where they can really pressure key ukrainian military hubs in the east and really

make a huge difference on that front line. this isn't just one new unexpected front in the north. there pushing all along the front lines and the east and the south and that is seeing some kind of gain. remember? >> the arms that secretary of state antony blinken talked about in kiev being on their way that were delayed by a republican congressional dysfunctionality since december, they're not here, they won't be here for at least a month. >> they may trickle in, but they aren't changing the battlefield at all yet. vladimir putin sees a window. he knows that potential actually, in a month or two, things will be a lot harder because ukraine will have the ammunition. it needs to stop advancing russian forces. so he's got the munition now he's got the manpower has got the time, and he's got the resources. >> he is throwing them all at here. can hear out towards vovchansk ourselves. >> many airstrikes landing nearby. they are really moving pretty fast as i say, probably the darkest days ukraine's front lines since the early

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down from 3.5% to 3.4%. you might say, well that is just really almost nothing. and okay, but it comes after several months of increased this in the inflation rate out front. now, austan goolsbee, president of the federal reserve bank of chicago, also, of course, was a top economic advisor in the obama white house and a professor and a lot of other things but present goolsbee, i really appreciate your taking the time here so core inflation goes from 35234 and i know that's as i said, almost it's not very much, but it had been going up. so people obviously are relieved by any sort of assign that may be inflation is abating. do you think that this one report is a sign of where things are going or not? >> i hope so. i mean, it does seem like the day trading crowd gets themselves worked up, up, down in an every other way faster than the timetable that the data come out faster than the than the, let's call it the

monetary timetable if you take a step back over the last one year, one-and-a-half years, inflation is way down from its peaks and we were able to get inflation down pretty substantially without a recession. so that in itself is extremely unusual and to be applauded. but let's not make too much it. yes, there was improvement. i'm glad we saw improvement but we hit a briney, tough bum at the start of this year. we had seven months of decent inflation numbers at the end of last year we had a couple of months of poor inflation numbers to start this, we're seeing some improvement, but one month is no months. i mean, let's let's let's get several months before we start getting real happy after in march, you had said you were open to interest rate cuts this year. >> i believe you said you open to three of them. >> and then in april pointing

to the inflation numbers, right. >> which had started to look more grim. you said we have to wait with the wait and see on cuts. so where are you now on this? do you think the fed will cut interest rates this year or not? >> i mean, i really don't like tie in our hands even partially when we're going to get a whole bunch of information. i'm gonna i said on the continuum of doves, the hawks i don't want to be a bird we're the data dogs and the data dogs thing is, know the difference of when is it time to walk and when is it time to stop and sniff. and when you're getting numbers that are crosscurrents and some of the numbers are strong and some of the numbers are weak. the thing to do is just keep sniffing around and try to figure out is that the sine of overheating or are we on this longer trajectory of inflation coming down? i'm optimistic that we're continuing on this downward

trajectory, but i just think it's too early to be, to be moving, right. >> and of course, the context, obviously, okay. as you point out, the market goes up, the market though is very detached from the way americans perceive things right now, because we see it. everyone sees it. >> people are worried. people are worried about the economy. it's the number one issue and they are you see it in consumer sentiment numbers. and a lot of the concern does come from inflation. and when i interviewed president biden, i asked him about that and i asked him about some of the real challenges people face and how he sees it. and i wanted to play the exchange for you the cost of buying a home in the united states is double what it was when you look at your monthly costs from before the pandemic, real income, when you account for inflation is actually down since you took office, economic growth last week far for short of expectations consumer confidence may no surprise is near a two-year low with less than six months to go to election day are you worried

that you're running out of time to turn that around? >> we've already turned it around. look look at the the michigan survey for 65% american people. think they're in good shape economically, i think the nation's not in good shape but they're personally pretty good shape. the polling data has been wrong all along when i started this administration people were saying are going to be a collapsing economy. we have the strongest economy in the world let me say it again in the world all right so i just want to ask you about the way he began his answer. >> we have already turned it around. do you think that's fair? >> i hesitate only because once i joined the fed, i kinda got out of the elections business. and the argument of who takes credit and is it already fixed i kinda resist. i know. i don't wanna get drawn into that. i think the long arm of inflation as you know, aaron, the fed by law has a dual

mandate maximize employment and stabilize prices. the strongest thing in the economy has been the job market and the weakest thing by far has been inflation. and prices. and you see that in the vibes, the vibes are definitely worse then the actual data conditions and as the fed is confronting, trying to get the inflation rate down with that question of, is it already on a path back to our target of 2%? >> we don't know yet. i mean that's the thing we're trying to get more confidence on. >> all right. well, austan goolsbee, thank you very much. the president of the federal reserve bank of chicago, and i appreciate your time. tonight it's great to see you again here. all right. you to next the nikki haley factor. >> she has been out of the race now for months and yet a lot of people are still voting for nearly 20% in maryland's post

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than two months ago haley scoring 20% of the vote in maryland's republican primary last night. haley also getting 18% of the vote in nebraska. both states closed primaries, which means only republicans can vote. haley now has hit double digits in 15 states after she ended her campaign including crucial swing states that had had infinitesmal margins last time around, including arizona and georgia, also, important states like pennsylvania and wisconsin out front. now, the former republican congressman ken buck and congressman i appreciate your time. and as i mentioned, those primaries last night, maryland in we're open only two registered republican voters. you can't say this was democrats or independents going in and voting for haley but do you read anything into this? is this a warning sign for trump or not? >> i think as clearly warning sign, these are protest votes. these are people who are not happy with how he is presented himself and the positions taken on certain issues and they are

expressing themselves and the only way they know how the primary system we have in america is flawed but one of the flaws is that we can't get more people to participate in primaries. but in this case, these voters have said, given what i've, given the opportunities that i have i'm going to make sure that my vote is heard loud and clear by voting for a candidate who is not even in the election i mean is when you look at this meat is just you know, state after state after state now this is coming ahead of debates because president biden, former president trump have now agreed to two debates which is very significant, right? >> the first is going to be here in june on cnn. both sides tonight though, are now casting doubt on their rival and whether they will actually follow through. here they are today donald trump says a lot of things will see if he actually shows up. >> i wonder whether or not he shows up sort of like a game of chicken here how bad will it look for either one of them if

they literally don't show up? well i think these are the two least popular presidential candidates in a long time. so i don't know if they're numbers can go any lower. but certainly not showing up after you've given your word and your campaign has given its word, that you'll be there. it's pretty embarrassing and speaks volumes. it's still pretty far out from the election so yeah, i suppose they can make up some room as they get closer to the election, but if you're going to agree to something, this significant, this noteworthy to the american people. i would expect both of them to follow up and i expect both of them to be there. >> well, now, i want to ask you about a couple of other important things right now. one of them is what's going to happen tomorrow? you've got two of the most powerful republican committee chairman, jim jordan, james comer. >> they are pushing with a resolution to hold merrick garland, the attorney general, and contempt of congress. >> now, obviously, you know them both. well, you served and those committees do you agree with jordan and comer? >> on this move to hold garland

and contempt no. i think it's a political stunt, aaron, this is a the the transcript from president biden's testimony in front of special counsel, her has been turned over. they have the material in front of them, what they're looking for is present so than biden's voice. so that it can be used by the trump campaign in an election cycle. that's just unnecessary. attorney general garland, give them a huge amount of credit here. he took a lot of grief from the left for not redacting the report. and withholding certain information that he released so that he would be fully transparent. the american people would have all the information. and now he's getting attacked by the right for not releasing an audio or an audio tape that can be used in a campaign. i he is an attorney john released the transliteration. >> right? they released the transcript. they have the information they're just looking for something for political purposes all right it's significant, right?

>> there's not what they don't know what he said. they do. of course, they have a full transcript just like we do every day in that courtroom. and speaking of trump and court, i want to ask you about something that senator mitt romney just said actually a little bit ago. so i don't know congressman have even a chance to hear because it happened right before we came to air romney. of course, voted to convict trump in both of his impeachment trials. he told nbc in part quote, i had i've been president biden and i think it's important because at that moment, as you know, congressman when he talked about a voting to impeach because of january 6, he was moved to tears about the importance of that decision in that vote, which is why what he's saying tonight to nbc is significant. he says, congressman had it then president biden, when the justice department brought on indictments, i would have immediately pardon tim at a pardon president trump. >> why? >> well, because it makes me president biden the big guy and the person i pardoned a little guy. >> and again, the context here, a man who was moved to tears with his vote to impeach, right? we know where he stands. he thinks these are real and

important cases. talking of course, about january 6 do you agree with senator romney? >> i don't i actually think that you go through the trial process. if president biden wins the presidency again and president trump is convicted, there's a lot of ifs and that sentence i think that president biden then should consider pardoning president trump, but i think at this point in time, president trump has should have the ability to defend in himself in court. and when an innocent verdict or not guilty verdict rather than having a pardon right at the beginning where a cloud remains over his head, right? >> interesting that you do not don't support that perfect preempted pardon all right. congressman buck, i always appreciate talking to you. thank you. >> thank you. >> next, he was a top aide, but eventually turned and took down the president. but no, i'm not talking about michael cohen tonight and breaking news and massive international oh man, hunt for a notorious fugitive on the loose tonight after daring and bloody escape that all happen to be caught on camera switch to shopify.

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he took down richard nixon and now he has vice from michael cohen, john dean, whose testimony during the watergate hearings was the nail in the coffin for nixon has been in cohen shoes is a key witness against one of those powerful men on the planet the similarities don't, and they're tom foreman is out front know brian. >> there is no prime two presidents denying they did anything wrong. >> people have got to know whether or not they're president is a crop well, i'm not a crook and to close aide saying that's not true, michael cohen, a key witness for the prosecution of donald trump, and john dean, who helped take down richard nixon. i've had conversations with michael. i think we came to our courses through very different backgrounds and experiences, rich trig nixon was an establishment terrion. he believed in the institutions have government donald trump has no real knowledge or

understanding of the institutions of government and he has no conscience either, both dean, who was a white house counsel during watergate in the early 19, and cohen who is trump's lawyer during the alleged events of the hush money scandal, initially stood firmly by their presidents only when things started going south and cohen admitted to crimes and went to jail, did he turn on trump? >> he is a conman and he's achieved now cohen is testifying to how hush money payments were made, how records were falsified, and how he says trump told him to just do it cohen told out front from the get-go, it would be tough facing his old boss. >> nobody wants to do this. this isn't fun. de and understands. he also admitted to a felony and he told the us senate of discussions with nixon about hush money for watergate conspirators amid fierce pushback by the president's defenders pros certainly, people can do

walking, money, getting clean money, and things like that now, dean watches the fury around trump and wonders what will come after cohen's testimony is done and the verdict derives the fact that somebody would turn around and go to extremes way beyond richard nixon it's a little bit startling and a little bit troubling to me. >> still court in history watchers say both men represents a key figure in so many such cases, the fixer, the insider, the loyalist, who is not loyal anymore, when one of them flips that, threatens directly the power. and perhaps the freedom of the president involved. that's why michael cohen or a john dean represents such an important part of the story of a corrupt president it is important to remember nixon was never impeached, never

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