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this hour with disturbing video you, it's truly disturbing when you see it. this is exclusively obtained by cnn and it really seems to support at least some of the abuse claims against sean diddy combs, graphics surveillance footage that appears to show comes repeatedly hitting his then girlfriend, kathy inside of a hotel. this is back in 2016 and we do want to warn you what you're about to see is very disturbing. >> cnn's elizabeth wagmeister is with us now. >> she has more on her exclusive reporting, elizabeth walk us through what is in this video as you said, this is very disturbing footage, so we do want to warn our viewers now, cassie ventura, she dated sean diddy combs over the course of a decade. >> a lot of people know her as a big pop star in the early aughts. now, she was one of, she was the first woman to hit

diddy with the first lawsuit that started this domino effect of civil suits that have now come out against him in her suit from november of 2023, which was quickly settled within one day, by the way, there is an incident in that complaint that talks about in march 2016, we're she alleged that she was assaulted in the hallway of a los angeles hotel. now we have obtained that footage. let's take a look new surveillance footage obtained exclusively by cnn appears to corroborate some of the allegations of abuse against music mogul sean diddy combs the video captured on multiple cameras, shows combs assaulting his then girlfriend, cassie ventura, in a hallway at los angeles hotel in march 2016 a lawsuit filed by ventura in november last year and settled the next day. reference actions that seem to match those seen in this video. there is no audio according to the

complaint comes became extremely intoxicated and punched ms ventura in the face, giving her a black guy, which according to the lawsuit, prompted ventura to try and leave the hotel room. the surveillance video obtained by cnn begins as she enters the hallway the complaint says, as she exited mr. combs awo in, began screaming at ms ventura. he followed her into the hallway of the hotel while yelling at her. the complaint goes on to say he grabbed her and then took glass vases in the hallway and threw them at her in the surveillance video comes can be seen grabbing ventura throwing her to the ground as ventura lies on the ground combs then kicks her twice and attempts to drag her on the floor back to the hotel room. ventura is seen picking up a hotel phone, comb seems to walk back to the hotel room, then returns and appears to shove her in a corner. moments later, he can be seen throwing an object in her direction

according to ventura, has now set a lawsuit. the pair began dating several years after they met in 2005 they parted ways in 2019. combs attorney said the decision to settle was in no way an admission of wrongdoing ventura declined to comment on the video, but her attorney told cnn the gut wrenching video has only further confirmed the disturbing and predatory behavior of mr. combs words cannot express the courage and fortitude that ms ventura has shown in coming forward to bring this to light, the video hasn't been seen publicly before and comes on the heels of a series of civil lawsuits alleging combs involvement in sex trafficking and sexual abuse allegations combs has repeatedly denied in a december 2023 statement, combs responded to the claims in all the lawsuit saying sickening allegations have been made against me by individuals looking for a quick payday. let me be absolutely clear. i did

not do any of the awful things being alleged now, we have reached out to attorneys for sean diddy combs. we have not heard back yet in response to this video. now, this is one piece of a lengthy lawsuit get that again, came in november 2023 and was settled. cassie also has accused sean diddy combs of rape, of sex trafficking. sex trafficking. she says that she was subjected to a decade of abuse during their relationship and elizabeth, you talked about this a little bit in the story there, but this is just the latest in string of damaging controversies and accusations against diddy. >> he's homes have been rated in relation to that sex trafficking investigation. he's also been accused of sexual assault and five different lawsuits filed in region he said months. so where do things stand more broadly yes. >> so he does have six lawsuits against him, but as you said, five of those directly accuse

him of sexual assault. now, duty is fighting back as we heard, he has denied all i'll claims against him, including cassius. he just last week at the end of last week, he filed a motion to dismiss a lawsuit from a jane doe. he is also filed to dismiss a portion of a separate lawsuits. so up until now, he has maintained his innocence over and over again. again. he is fighting back, but it will be interesting trusting to hear. now what we hear back from his team because now we do have this video and this goes against him denying all these allegations across the board yeah horrific video. >> and so important to see elizabeth. thank you so much for that exclusive reporting. let's talk now a cnn legal analyst, joey jackson some things that stand out to me, joey and i'm curious what stands out to you, but the kicking while she's on the ground, the fact of how methodically cassie puts her hand up to protect her head you

know, kinda like she's a pro it protecting herself against this kind of abuse. but i just wonder what your reaction is. two, what we're seeing in this video and what it means. >> yeah, good to be with you, briana and jessica. i'd means nothing good as it relates to mr. combs. i think that the letting out of the lawsuit initially but we saw in november of 2023, just last year, he was going to settle that lawsuit the time to do that would have been certainly the day before it became into the public realm as to what we're observing, we should believe our eyes right? are our eyes lying to us? it's a vicious assault the kicking, the punch however you describe it. and i think that notwithstanding the fact beyond that the lawsuit has been settled, i think you saw that the federal government is investigating. you saw the homeland security investigation, and agency that was there at his home looking into various allegations that were made in that lawsuit and others with respect to his conduct concerning sexual activities, concerning the

consent around that concerning any other commercial activity. and i think that's the larger fish to fry here. and so when you see things like this, it does give credence and credibility to what people were saying notwithstanding his denials. and i think the federal government is going to be looking into this very carefully. as it relates to potentially moving forward in. i know they're investigating, but in ultimately doing something about that investigation will have to see and we saw that he just denied all all of it just across the board. joy. when you have somebody that's saying i didn't do it, i didn't do it. i didn't do it and has also, by the way, settled with her and part of the case. what is the video like this? how does that change the dynamic here so jessica, there's two imperatives, right? >> when you're celebrity like this, i think the first obviously he is public relations. that's important. you have a brand you want to protect that brand is a lot of money surrounding that. and so there's going to be denials is going to be nothing to see here. everyone's after my money, people are crazy the other though imperative is that

if there's something here we have many investigatory bodies in the united states that look and evaluate that. and so i think when you see a tape like this, it is of some concern to authorities to evaluate it further. now you could look at the specific nature of the act here, and you could say, well, what about the local authorities? you may have some statute of limitations problems in terms of the assault generally, california, i believe where this was three-year statute of limitations, but then you look at things that are not statute of limitations, such as human trafficking and that type thing. so i think what we're going to see moving forward is a very active federal government seeing whether in parsing the lawsuit not only as it relates to that specific allegation, but other allegations in that lawsuit, you heard elizabeth wagmeister speak to the issues of the other pending lawsuits. those will be parsed very carefully to determine what's what i think people will be called in on the subpoena to be further the investigation. and if there's anything that's

actionable, i think potentially that's what we'll see is its action. >> all right, joy, stay with us. and if you or someone you know, is struggling with intimate partner violence, there are resources. a lot of them available to you, including the national with violence hotline, and that's 800 safe meantime, happening right now, the world's top-ranked golfer, scottie scheffler is playing him the second round of the pga championship just hours after he was arrested in louisville, kentucky the masters champion now facing four charges, including felony assault on a police officer espn's geoff darlington reported seeing scheffler drive around the scene of a fatal traffic accident outside the club. >> despite being told to stop by police, that same reporter shot this video of the arrest. you can see scheffler being escorted away by two officers. he's visibly there in handcuffs. take a listen to this officer on the scene. what right now he's going to jail okay. okay. he's going to jail

not you can do about well, scheffler then was booked into jail. he was released not long after though, with enough time to get back to the course for his second round t time, cnn's andy scholes is following all of this scheffler actually out on the course right now i was reading that other players have been kind of going up to him, checking in on him. >> what's the reaction been from scheffler himself? well, briana, jessica, you scheffler called this whole thing really a huge misunderstanding. this really has been the strangest morning and golf history. but despite all of that a tap-in, it hasn't rattled scheffler. he made his teeth time birdied two of his first three holes. he's 200 through nine, he's only three shots off the lead there at the pga championship. but before teeing off, scheffler did release this statement saying this morning i was proceeding as directed by police officers. it was a very chaotic situation. understandably. so considering the tragic accident that had occurred earlier, and there was a big misunderstanding what i

thought i was being asked to do. i never intended to disregard any of the instructions. i'm hopeful to put this to the side and focus on golf today, of course, all of us involved in the tournament express our deepest sympathies to the family of the man who passed away earlier in the accident this morning. >> it truly puts everything in perspective. >> now, as you mentioned, espn's geoff darlington, he was at the scene when this was all unfolding and he gave this account of what happened on sports take a listen. >> scottie scheffler has been detained by police officers placed in the back of a police vehicle in handcuffs after he tried to pull what around what he believed to be security ended up being police officers. they told him to stop when he didn't stop, the police officer for attached himself to the vehicle, scheffler then traveled another ten yards before stopping the car the police officer then grabbed at his arm, attempting to pull him out of the car. before scheffler eventually opened the

door, at which point the police officer pulled scheffler out of the car, pushed up against the car and immediately placed him in handcuffs now, according to the police report, the officer involved was dragged to the ground and suffered pain, swelling, and abrasions to his left wrist after scheffler's car accelerated forward, and officer was taken to the hospital now, jessica, brianna, i can tell you of all people for this to happen to scheffler. >> i mean, one of the most unlikely, i mean, he is one of the nicest, most well-liked guys on tour. he just had his first child a week-and-a-half ago. and hizon, one of the best runs and golf history right now, he's won four of his last five starts and he just one the masters if again, this happened to him and it's surprising to, because the players, they drive in marked vehicles at these tournaments in his car had pj pga championship on the side of it. so it was clearly you know, someone who could needed to get into the course. so for him to be pulled over or stopped the

way wasn't for all this to go down the way it did kind of puzzling that it happened this way. >> all that context really adds a lot of layers here when i talk about how i was explaining stuff. >> but as someone who it doesn't follow golf and i would say he's giving sunday school teacher. okay. that's the vibe. that's what it is yeah. >> so it is it is surprising. all right. any scholz. thanks so much for lay that all out for us. let's bring back seen legal analyst, joey jackson. joey to that note, how serious are these? charges against him yeah. >> so jessica, in the event that they're determined to be true, it's a class c felony. that is the assault against the police officer, are punishable by five to ten years, but not so fast every case turns on its facts and if it is a misunderstanding that's another thing. what kind of misunderstanding? we understand that apparently the police were there and there was a fatal accident. they were investigating that we understand that he was proceeding that is mrs. scheffler with his car into do

the actual tournament and it could be because they've also charged him with failing to obey and that he was moving forward and reckless driving. did he not here the commands of the officer did he misinterpreted or not know that he should stop at that particular time. what happened when the officer laid hands on him? was he attentive to the fact that it wasn't officer, was he doing it intentionally? did he do it unknowingly? so there's so much to get to before you get to the actual issue of it's a crime he intentionally assaulted an officer. and so that i think we're going to have to parse out. i think potential bodycam if it's available with regard to that specific interaction amongst him and the officer will be critical to show what his intentions are, what his actions all right. and really the essence of exactly what occurred is we look there at the charges in this very briefly in terms of the second degree assault that's the punishable by five to ten years. again, we're not there yet. that's an allegation prosecutor is going to have to look and evaluate this third degree criminal mischief is when you're damaging property

property, reckless driving is what it says it is. you're driving in a manner that a reasonable, prudent person would drive and disregarding signals is when, hey, stop and you continue to go the most serious one though, is that assault will see factually whether there was assault or whether there was something very much less so yeah, let's talk about that that assault charge a little bit more and we should mention through his attorneys scheffler has said that he actually thought he was following the instructions of one officer and then he encountered another officer who was the detective who this altercation seem to occur with and that's where he says the misunderstanding occurred. >> he thought he was following the initial instructions here on the assault issue. >> i mean, this idea we'll we see from the police report is that this officer was kind of dragged a little bit. >> i mean, just i'm just trying to understand how that happens short of an officer holding onto a moving vehicle. and if that is sort of customary to do, yes. >> so brynn, i think there's a couple of things to parse out

on that. the first thing is whether or not he knew right. that is missing scheffler knew that it wasn't officer if it's a detective, are they in plain clothes? are they not? the other issue was what instructions was he given where those instructions inconsistent was one person telling him to do something in law enforcement and another person? telling him to do another, was it accidental such that he was going to the side where the person was dragged. that is the law enforcement officer or was it intentional? those are all the quirky facts, obviously, if you do something intentional under the law or even if you're reckless that you consciously disregard the risks that you're behaved bit could result in something that's criminal. sometimes things are accidental and that's what gets us into the misunderstanding category. but we'll really have to see if there's video footage available or other surveillance. what the specific conduct was before we could proclaim whether it was a misunderstanding or be something in the criminal variety these kinds of things happens, happen all the time. >> we don't always focus on them because it's not the number one golfer that it happens too, but it's just a reminder that sometimes these

kinds of things happen to a lot of people. joey jackson. thank you so much. much as we continue to follow this. we're also following this very important developing story out of gaza where israeli forces say that they have found the bodies of three hostages in a hamas tunnel. what this means is critical negotiations for a ceasefire are underway. >> well as a key figure in the arizona fake electors scheme heads to court trump ally and former election attorney john eastman facing a judge for his role in subverting arizona's 2020 election results will tell you what happened during today's hearing. >> depicts and helps people with asthma breathe better. it has little as ten weeks. would you can leave better? what is it better this is better this

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news. >> now, israel says it has recovered the bodies of three hostages, hostages inside a tunnel in gaza. they have been identified as szaniecki. look amit boost, kyla, and yitzhak gelin tour the israeli military, military saying the hostages escaped from the attack on the nova music festival on october seventh, only to be killed at a kibbutz, the idf saying hamas took their bodies then to gaza we will leave no stone unturned we will do everything in our power to find a hostages and bring them home. >> we will not rest until we do israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu saying in a statement, quote, the heartbreaks for the great loss we will return all our hostages, the dead and alive alike. >> it continues, i congratulate our brave forces who would determine action have returned our sons and daughters home for

more on this breaking news, we're joined now by former defense secretary under president trump, mark esper, er, so serves on the board as a strategic adviser for several aerospace and defense related companies secretary esper, it is great to have you here with us. just first, it is striking these bodies. each of these people have a family. we were thinking back to that video of shani look in the back of that pickup truck being paraded through a street it really drives home that there are still so many hostages, families, and loved ones who don't know where these people are, or if they're dead or alive. and that we are months and months beyond october 7 at this point yeah. >> jessica, it's it's really tragic to get this news. these these people who were have been found in the tunnels and the stories and worse, you know what the reporting is telling us is that they're actually killed on october 7, in israel. >> and their bodies were taken

by hamas back into gaza. and they've been there for what, six, seven months now. >> and it's just a tragic story. it talks to the speaks to the brutality of hamas that would do this. and book i'm glad there's closure for the parents welcome home or the or the relatives of all three of them. welcome them home and lay them to rest. but it's just a tragic tale of what's happening there and you hit on the bigger point and that is this, that there are 132 or so israelis, some of them are americans too, by the way. who are still being held by hamas. we believe that 323334 of them so far are deceased. and that means fewer than 100 or live. >> i really think we have to question how many of them really are alive. >> and i would assume i would hope that during these negotiations that israel is demanding proof of life for all we know most of them may have been killed by now i hate to say that, but we have no idea what hamas is doing this. and it's just, it's a real tragedy that this has gone on

for so long at this point and you touched on something that is important too, because part of this is, weaved in with these negotiations, these ceasefire and hostage negotiations and so i'm curious what kind of impact do you think this news might have on those negotiations why? i think it has a big impact again, you know, hamas has said for several weeks now that they can't identify where all 132 are, maybe that's true. maybe that's not true. maybe maybe the fact fact is that they do know where they are. most of them again may not be alive so that's number one. >> number two is you know, it just speaks to the humanitarian the morality of the israeli people that would, that would eagerly swap even the deceased body of a loved one for 40, 50 now, palestinians, which is what hamas is demanding. so i think it speaks to the virtue of these israeli people to do that. but again, i think it speaks to the brutality of

hamas that they continue to hold onto these people both living and the deceased. now for seven months and continue to use as regrettably the palestinian civilians in gaza as human shields. it's just a very difficult part of this and we know that israeli people, the israeli government, one accomplish two things and probably in this order, number one is returned all the hostages that analyzed and number to wipe out hamas once and for all and so but these things at times can be in conflict and that's seems to be where things stand right now and there's also the question about what happens after this is over the long term strategy in gaza as it were. >> and we know that the idf has sent troops back into areas of of northern gaza that had withdrawn from to fight against hamas militants who have now returned in this kind of power vacuum that exists. >> and israel's defense minister, golan has said that he opposes military rule in gaza. >> he's, he's called on netanyahu to rule that out how

do they make a plan for what comes next after all of this? and how does that also then layer in with what we're dealing with right now is they tried to get a hostage deal and a ceasefire yeah, i think that's a critical point, jessica, the two big strategic questions for me are what happens in the interim after israel accomplish its, its military objectives. >> and then what happens long term. both rest on the shoulders of the israeli government and arguably right with benjamin netanyahu. and as you pointed out, the israeli, defense minister publicly challenged netanyahu to come up with a plan saying that we need a political outcome and he's absolutely right to say that. and so the question is, who will govern and provide policing services who will pull up, provide public services, who will make sure security's intact during the time in which after israel accomplishments is military objective and begins pulling out. and there's been suggestions of some type of un force or a pan-arab force or

something like that. but that's very unclear at something that may be maybe weeks per probably months away. and then the long-term solution is, will there be a two-state solution? palestinians and israelis living side-by-side in peace and security. and if so, who will govern, who will be in charge. and again, this rests back on the israeli government, principally benjamin netanyahu, who has rejected that vision and for most others to include united states who's, who believed that is the way forward? >> we will see how it unfolds. secretary mark esper. thanks so much. we appreciate your time thanks. >> jessica, still ahead today, former trump attorney john eastman becomes the first of 18 defendants arranged on charges stemming from the 2020 fake electors scheme in arizona, were in phoenix i didn't $500 million in art stolen. >> me saw what turned out to be the biggest heist in history. >> you can't help but wonder if this was some sort of inside job pow really happened with

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who are named in this indictment commit to make their in-person court appearance, it is a standard arraignment that we saw him go through the court making very clear, then i can treat anybody differently than they would end the other defendant, mr. eastman, arrived at court he appeared very calm before cameras that were waiting for him. he was also very brief and calm with him his arizona-based attorney, in addition to his national dc-based attorney, a very relaxed and saying that he is not guilty. and then afterwards, he he spoke to reporters or denying his involvement with any of this. take a listen i just an appearance that arraignment on charges that in my view, should never been brought i of course, pled not guilty. >> i had zero communications with the electors in arizona, zero involvement in any of the election litigation in arizona our legislative hearings and i'm confident that with the laws faithfully applied out, we'll be fully exonerated at

the end of this process i'll eastman did have to have the same processing as any other defendant. >> he did have his mug taken. he told me and the elevator as he was walking out of his arraignment that he is next heading to california where he will be fundraising thanks for his legal defense fund. in addition to speaking to california republicans, as far as what this was, all about, jessica and brianna it was weeks after the 2020 election when the allegation is that national trump allies seven of them named to this indictment, help coordinate 11 others state-based arizona republicans, to sign fake documents to essentially say that trump won when it was joe biden who won the state of arizona rihanna jessica. >> all right. counting off for us live in phoenix. thanks so much for that reporting still had on cnn news central, president biden making fresh appeals to black voters as his sees as his campaign sees a

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and unknown will pursued our nation's north star holes have been showing biden losing significant support among non-white voters when he's matched up against donald trump this weekend, president biden will be giving the commencement speech each and morehouse college, which is the alma mater of martin luther king junior, cnn anchor victor blackwell, sit down with the president of morehouse. victor, tell us what the president david thomas told you about this. yeah. he said that he will hold that invitation. that's what he's held to this entire time. now, there are some students, some faculty members, some alumni who are opposed to the invitation to the president because of his administration support for israel and the war against hamas, the reluctance to call before permanent ceasefire, but president david thomas of morehouse college says that there must be some place where these tensions can live he says that there had been obviously the commencements that have been canceled. there had been commencement speakers who have

been canceled, valedictorian. we know that has been canceled, but there has to be a place where people can disagree with the president, but also not cancel him because his body of work is much larger than the single decision. it's important also to say that the invitation went to the white house from morehouse college and historically black college here in atlanta that educates black men primarily a win in september, it was accepted did in april. and the president says the president, the university says it behooves the president to come to morehouse and give more than just a stump speech, a campaign speech. he says there are three things that president biden should cover. here. they are one why did i choose morehouse to come give this speech to connect to the soul of this place. what it represents in the world too for him to give his vision of the

direction that we need to move domestic policy over the course of the next four years so that it creates a more inclusive economy. and third he needs to speak to the issues of israel hamas and gaza. >> to me, this is an opportunity for him not to duck that and president time is present the university there says that he is aware of the challenges that president biden has with black voters, with young voters. >> and he's aware of the likely political motivations for choosing an hbcu in georgia of all states to deliver the commencement address. and he says that the president will have to walk this line, but don't come just with a campaign message, speak to the students, speak to those in attendance. that would best

serve his campaign. >> yeah. they're looking for a genuine message, will see if he can deliver that. >> victor. thank you so much as always, and you can watch victor's full interview with the president of morehouse college college tomorrow morning during first of all, on cnn, at eight eastern and the head the backlash keeps building over an nfl kickers controversial commencement speech. now harrison butker has upset even the nuns your. assignment with audie cornish. listen wherever you get your podcasts today. >> at america's beverage companies are models might still look the same, but they can be remained hey, to know whole new way thanks to you. we're getting bottles back and we've developed a way to make new ones from 100% recycled plastic new bottles made using no new plastic. >> you'll be seeing more of these bottles in more places. >> and when we get more of them back we can use less new plastic bottles are made we

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in the world. but i would venture to guess that the majority of you are most excited about your marriage and the children you will bring into this world. as men, we set the tone of the culture be unapologetic in your masculinity fighting against the cultural emasculation of men, do hard things never settle for what is easy all right i'd like to bring in religion and faith commentator, father ed beck and father, as i mentioned, the founding sisters of benedictine also coming out in opposition to his remarks. >> i just wonder is you hear what butker said there? do you think it's representative? of catholic doctrine and what most catholics think and practice no, not at all. >> briana, i mean, begin with the sisters. they're vocation is not to be mothers and wives and homemakers. so is their vocation the founders of the college? at which he is speaking somehow less than mothers and wives and he

managed to anger a lot of people with this throughout the speech, he said, you need to stay in your own lane. everybody. and yet he goes on then to criticize preece and bishops and women. >> and you know, even says, god, he knows what god wants as far as what kind of worship god wants. >> i think there was a lot of uber's and a lot of arrogance in the speech and i don't think that harrison stayed in his lane yeah. >> it's interesting point. i do think that there listen, he's got a lot of people, father who are very critical of him there are also folks who are rallying behind him, who's sort of agree with him and it's this like division that you are seeing that is prevalent in our culture and i wonder what you think about that well, i think there's some of that division even in the catholic church, but the catholic church that he belongs to, that he adheres to it's a

very fringe group. >> i mean, he talks about going to the traditional latin mass, but this is the catholic church. were pope francis has named will more women to full-time jobs in the main departments of the vatican, which are called the cast stories. that's the fancy word and usually those jobs we just for men and cardinals and bishops. and francis's named women to them. well, those are full-time jobs 25% of the workforce at the vatican are women full-time. so they shirking their responsibilities as wives, as and mothers, not according to the vatican, not according to pope francis. that's the catholic church that harrison supposedly adheres to in his faith so i just think that is a split in the culture. and as you saw at the commencement address, he got a standing ovation so obviously there were people there that agreed with him. but i do not think he is

representative of the catholic church and catholic perspective as he espouses to be i do think this is prompting a lot of looks at the catholic church. >> pope frantic francis has also said the greatest vocation is women is to be mothers. and you'll have people who point at that. so what do you think when you look at that statement from the pope well i think you know, he he takes mary as the model and he, he speaks up the church as a woman. >> so i think he tries to extol the feminine and just say that the mother of christ and the church as woman, that it's an important role. >> but if you can also find, quote it's a francis where he says, and i think this is a direct crow quote that women should express their skills in every sphere and not just the family. so he doesn't believe it's simply about being mothers and wives and it's

obvious through his actions that he doesn't believe that you don't want to denigrate motherhood obviously, it's important and it's a vocation. but i think francis is really trying to push against the idea that women are second-class citizens in the church, and that they have a place and certainly a place in society. and as a have been to lift up women, and this seemed to be very massage monistic to me. i mean, what harrison was saying toward women. >> he just was making men. >> he said that that men set the tone of the culture and if they don't, then dysfunction and chaos sets in really harrison. i mean, if men are for setting the tone in this culture, it seems to me there's a lot of dysfunction and chaos right now. maybe we should let women set the tone of the culture and so i just think it was very demeaning for women and not just women, but priests and bishops and a lot of people. he says it wasn't an angry screed but it certainly came across that way to me.

>> yeah. one other call to action on fatherhood to talk to the guys as well on this one talks about staying in your own lane, right? >> yeah. >> well, there's two lanes and parenthood father back. thank you so much. appreciate it. >> thank you. forgotten. always good to see you. >> great to see you ahead on cnn news central, the curious case of scottie scheffler how the top known is pretty mild mannered golfer in the world. got arrested this morning before the pga championship this is yeah, that looks totally safe three first timer hot. let's was sure it looks safe, but like nearly half of all us cars, it's been in an accident with car facts.com. >> you see how accidents impact price. see you don't have to overpay on pause accidents.

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