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accusations that he injured a police officer while trying to drive past the scene i'm a fatal crash welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer in urine, the situation room the skis, cnn breaking news. >> we're following breaking news first this hour, the disturbing video of sean diddy combs obtained exclusively by cnn and the new reaction just coming in, we want to warn our viewers the video includes scenes of violence that viewers may find very difficult to watch cnn's elizabeth wagmeister broke the story for us. she's joining us now live elizabeth take us through this video and tell our viewers what it shows yes as you said, wolfe, this footage is incredibly disturbing, so we do want to issue that warning to your viewers, but back in november 2023, cassie, who is
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diddy's ex-girlfriend and many people know her for her hit song knee and you she filed a lawsuit against diddy and in that lawsuit, she detailed an incident that she alleged happen in march 2016. >> and now we have obtained this footage that we are seeing play out right now in front of us that corroborates many of cavities allegations there you see that did he is dragging her in this hallway? he is kicking her he is shoving her. he it's real it's really difficult to watch wolf because it is so violent. now, as i said, this mirrors her lawsuit. and what's so interesting about it is it's really a play by play of every thing that she alleged. i want to read you some pieces from her lawsuit. wolf in an inner are around march 2016, mr. combs became extremely intoxicated and punch ms ventura in the face, giving her a black guy. the lawsuit goes on to say that because of
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that incident inside their hotel room, that she then fled the hotel room and that is what we see her in the hallway. it said as he followed her into the hallway of the hotel while yelling at her, he grabbed at her, then took glass vases in the hallway and threw them at her causing glass to crash around them as she ran to the elevator to escape. >> now, in that footage, we do see him picking up a glass vase and throwing it towards her. you see you right there back in the mirror. where diddy is? it's a bit hard to see, but he grabs that vase and he he throws it at her. now, what is interesting about this wolf is diddy has denied all of this. there is a settlement with this lawsuit, so he hasn't been able to beaks about casie, but he has been maintaining his innocence as all of these lawsuits have piled up against him. and now, again, we're seeing this play out right in front of our face. >> quite different than him
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saying that i deny all of these allegations against me. it's shocking is horrible what more can you tell us? elizabeth about the response to this? you are the other allegations against combs the response has been really overwhelming. >> again, i think seeing something in a visual format versus reading it. certainly in the world of social media play is very different today. that though is the court of public opinion. and of course, diddy is fighting to clear his name in a court of law. there are five lawsuits against him. that's not including cassius, which again, has been settled and four of those five lawsuits allege that he has responded ansible for sexual assault. now, again, he is denying all of this. i want to read you what he wrote back in december 2023, because we have not heard back from diddy's team yet today, but on his instagram back in december 2023, here's
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what did he wrote? he said, quote, sickening allegatns have been made against me by individuals looking for a quick payday. let me be absolutely clear. i did not do any of the awful things being alleged. and at the time and attorney for combs also told us that the settlement was quote, in no way an admission of wrongdoing. now, we are also getting reaction tonight from cassius husband. she is now married with two young children and appears to be living being a very happy life. and here's what he posted. wolf, he posted what he called a letter to women and children. here's part of it. it says, quote, to all the women and children, i'm sorry, you live in a world where you're not protected to the abusers. you're done, you are not safe anymore. he is getting a lot of praise on social med or not just backing his wife, but also for against speaking to women and children. and lastly, wolfe, i do want to tell you that we have heard from cassius lawyer telling us, first at cnn, quote, the gut wrenching video
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has only further confirm the disturbing and predatory behavior of mr. struck homes. he goes on to say that he is so proud of his client, kasey, for coming forward with these allegations back in november elizabeth wagmeister. >> thanks very much for your reporting. i want to bring in right now cnn entertainment reporter lisa respers, france and joel anderson, a staff writer for slate and attorney take a. look commentator or riva martin is joining us as well. a review, let me start with you seeing this awful, very disturbing video of sean diddy combs attacking cassie ventura. what will this been legally for him? >> well what we know, what is that he has he been did he has denied all of the allegations in the five or six lawsuits that have been filed against him? i would not be surprised if some of the lawyers that are representing the other plaintiffs aren't going to use this video to try to extract a higher value settlement out of p. diddy and his team theme, or if these matters du or any of
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them proceed to trial, we should expect to see a lawyer is trying to introduce this evidence as prior bad conduct evidence or on the part of p. diddy, this could not be more horrible, horrifying, obviously for victims for cassie who had to endure this kind of abuse. but this is what many if people are believed to be the conduct of beauty for years have been allegations of abuse of conduct and predatory conduct against him. in this video confirms many of those allegations. >> certainly does elisa. this is the first time we're seeing this video with their own eyes of obviously on camera after years of allegations since against the combs throughout his music career as a rava pointed out, what the impact of that i think the impact of that is devastating for diddy because initially people wanted to say, oh, she just filed this lawsuit because she wants money she's lying. >> but we see with our very own eyes exactly confirmation is
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lizbeth said of what she alleged in her lawsuit and how do you come back from that? honestly, i've been doing this for a while now as an entertainment reporter and it was a bit of an open secret in some corridors went in terms of the music industry that diddy had a temper, are people had accused him of being violent back in the 90s. he was alleged to have gotten to a major altercation with steve stout and was alleged to have beaten him and that became a court case. and there were other instances throughout the years where people said that this is who did he is, but he has so much power. it wasn't until cassie came forward well, if our lawsuit that people felt like they could be comfortable to discuss that important point, joel, back in november when that cassie ventura filed her lawsuit against combs for sexual assault, you wrote that you weren't surprised and you wrote this and i'm quoting you now, i've been waiting for years for the other shoe to drop. is this just the tip? the iceberg, what we're now seeing
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i think that's right. >> i will people have been waiting for is come up into for years. i mean, that ranges from $0.50 to people that performed on his label bad boy records many years ago. so anyone who had read or heard of the multiple detailed allegation of violence or his against combs, some of which i previously summarized in that piece you mentioned for slate, they're not surprised. in fact, it's precisely the image you'd imagine in the same way videos of police violence can shift conversations and change public opinions like, i think this really upsetting footage will be similarly significant. like i think it could be the nail in the coffin when it comes public opinion about the woman is just lying on the ground and he's kicking her like that awful or rava how might this inform the federal investigation against nitty as you and our viewers remember especially after that raid on his home's back in march, could we see federal charges against him anytime soon? >> what's not clear, wolfe, what additional video may
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exist? this video obviously gives us a bird's eye view of this attack on cassie ventura on this particular day. but it raises the question about, are there other videos like this? are there other videos involving other victims? other videos actually involving cassie and when did those incidents when did these brutal attacks occur they're always statutes of limitations that have to be considered when you're thinking about charges, whether there's a criminal case is going to be filed or civil actions, but clearly this video i think is going to be a substantial piece of evidence. that will be reviewed by law enforcement agencies that are looking at sean combs. and this is not going to bid i don't think this is going to end well, for him, we've seen this happen with other powerful men once the evidence starts to come out, other victims find their voices and they start to come forward as well. this just may be the beginning of a barrage of a additional allegations and additional victims coming forward. you
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have a final thought job before i let you go money is really insulated. >> sean diddy combs for very long and it feels like those days might be over like he had a falling out with a company that helped him with ciroc he's no longer we're affiliated with him. >> he had to step down as chairman of revolt. his reality show on hulu was canceled. so it seems like one of those things where he seemed teflon for so long that i'm sure many people expected this to go away, but the wall seem to be closing in on him and apparently not a moment too soon. >> and lisa, your final thought? >> my final thought is that this is vindication in so many ways for casie, but it also is amplifies the conversation whenever you have something like this with celebrities, if people to talk about massage, need to talk about believing victims. and the talk about domestic violence in a way that they may not have otherwise done. >> lisa respers france a river martin and joel anderson to all of you. thank you very much for joining us and to our viewers if you or someone you know, is
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president in today, marquis 70 years here's 70 years since the us supreme court decision desegregating schools all the progress we've made is still had more to do. >> and there's still groups are trying to erase it. my predecessor in an extreme maga friends all responsible for taking away other fundamental freedoms from the freedom to vote the freedom to choose. >> the president's outreach to black voters continue this coming weekend. they'll give the commencement speech at morehouse college in atlanta on sunday, followed by remarks at an nwa cp dinner in detroit let's get some more and all of this with our political experts, van jones, i'll start with you. the present is clearly trying to draw a contrast with trump on their records on issues like voting reproductive rights among several other issues. is this the right message you think to try to reverse the president binds fallen support with black voters? >> i think it's a good start. look, it's a privilege and
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honore for anybody get a chance to speak at a morehouse commits a commencement and i got a chance to do it once is what the highlights of my life. he speaking to. the next generation of leadership in our community, but he's got to understand. people are hurting and uncertain. they're struggling. injunction glenn, and these young people really do not have a great deal of faith, right now. and the democratic party, he cannot just give a generalized message. african-american men in particular feel these young men feel they have not been talked to directly their issues when it comes to police reform, but when it comes to violence in the streets have not been given the force they expect so he's got a skeptical audience. he's got to win them over. he's got to talk to them directly. what is he going to do for them in the future going forward? and why does he need their help now, b, does that i think is going to go well, if he gives a big pile, a pie in the sky, speech is talking about donald trump. and i'm just going to work eva a new fox news poll shows just how much a president biden support among black voters has fallen since the last election. take a
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look at this. >> in 2020, he enjoyed a dominant 75 point margin. >> but now that margin has dropped to just 49 points. what are you hearing from voters out there about why? hi, this is and what is the biden team's plan to try to turn these numbers around. >> you know, well, if i spoke to black voters earlier this year for some reporting and their concerns are primarily economic it's a deep frustration with stagnant wages. it's anxiety about being able to afford a home they feel as so they keep voting for democrats and their lives aren't getting any materially better. they're attracted to third-party candidates. actually, robert f. kennedy jr. and then also cornel west. i'm hearing from these just disaffected voters. there's also a generational divide that van spoke to. you know, there's a certain fidelity that older black voters have to president biden to the democratic party that we're not seeing among young black voters who are deeply disappointed in president biden's response to the
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humanitarian crisis in gaza. the administration's response to all of this is that they are working on it, that they have made historic investments when it comes to maternal health, when it comes to hbcus and a whole number of issues. i don't know if that message this time is going to be enough. >> let me get that. alice stewart thoughts on this as well. alice, the fox poll shows trump winning more than 20% of black voters, which would be doric high. if it actually translates to votes in november, is this something that trump team thinks they can do absolutely. >> and they're working very hard to try and win over black voters and appeal to them. but what we're seeing with president biden, the last few days and it has he will continue to do is he is not just a peeling for black support. he has pandering for black voters and look, this is what democrats do every time there's a major election year, they parachute into black communities and say, i'm a
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democrat, vote for me when the reality is, there are frustrated with the policies of this administration and he wants to go out there and talk about abortion and threats to democracy when the key issue shoes on top of mind for all voters are as eva said, the economic conditions, inflation of people are concerned about the border and there also worried about national security. and this is a factor in a problem that the biden administration is going to have and look up. trump is going to capitalize on that. and frank lunch, who as a conservative pollster done a lot of polling. he says, even black voters are looking at trump as someone that they can relate to as a victim of what they see as an unjust justice system. so they see trump picking up support based on what's happening him with the legal system. >> interesting, a van, another political issue that's unfolding over these past few hours, democratic congresswoman jasmine crockett is calling republican representative marjorie taylor greene, racist following a very, very tense hearing last night that devolved into very personal
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attacks, i want to play some of that for you and our viewers. watch this you know we're here well, you don't want to talk about i think your fake eyelashes are messing up this order. mr. chairman i would like to move to take down ms greene's words that is absolutely unacceptable. how dare you have another person? >> are your feelings her words down? oh, oh, girl, baby, girl. >> oh, really don't even play if someone on this committee, then starts talking about somebody's bleach blonde bad built butch body that would not be engaging in personalities, correct. what now then what do you make of that i think that the standards of conduct have been pulled down so low by some
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of these folks in congress, they go there because they want to be celebrities. i'm talking about marjorie taylor greene and others. why do we even know her name? marty taylor greene has never passed a bill. she's never chaired a committee she's never done anything but be a provocateur and a clown and cheese gets out. the skin of people in this is kind of stuff that goes on but whether she's racist or not, she she is a disgrace to the american peoples whose disgrace to that congress. and she should just pass one bill. maher, did you do your job every time can we talk about her? she's doing some clownish nonsense and it's ridiculous what do you think? i mean, she is an instigator, right? this is the entire her entire calling card. the reason that she sort of made it to congress was these kinds of the ac, tricks i will say, i think on the racial element to this, often it is black women, especially women like congressman crockett, who are leaned on to sort of rise
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above. and we should questions sort of that double standard. why should she conduct herself any other way look at the the leadership look at the tone house republicans that are setting the tone and if this is the kind of energy that congresswoman marjorie taylor greene is bringing folks in that room are going to match that energy and we shouldn't necessarily, i think castigate congresswoman crockett for respond, responding in-kind to tell us, i just forget your thoughts. marjorie taylor greene is offered at the center of controversy. what's your reaction to that chaotic display but i'm by no means whatsoever defending marjorie taylor greene's comments here, but that was not a monologue, that was a dialog back and forth. >> and it was childish behavior all around. and i think members of congress are there to lead this country legislate and get laws passed and they're not
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us. brian anderson, scheffler is speaking out and calling the entire incident a big misunderstanding. he did say that wolf just a short time ago, but right now, the police have a different version and it appears for the moment to be their word against hints the world's number one golfer, scottie scheffler defending himself tonight after being charged with assaulting a police officer at the scene of a traffic accident in louisville, kentucky. >> it was a chaotic situation in a big big misunderstanding and i can't can't comment on any of the specifics of it. the incident occurred as scheffler was trying to enter the valhalla golf club in louisville this morning for the second round of the pga championship, one of the sport's major tournaments louisville police say they were working a separate traffic fatality when scheffler attempted to drive past the scene? >> they say when an officer detective bryan gillis stopped scheffler and attempted to give him instructions, quote subject refused to comply and accelerated forward, dragging detective gillis to the ground.
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the detective was injured, though not seriously. >> we're talking about the number one player in the world, right? who is in contention at a major championship. and then is arrested before his tee time, probably an hour-and-a-half before his tee time? and it's this type of adversity that you really never see in the game of golf espn journalist jeff darlington, witnessed the arrest and filmed it. >> they told him to stop when he didn't stop, the police officer attached to to the vehicle, scheffler then traveled another ten yards before stopping the car. the police officer then grabbed at his arm, attempting to pull him out of the car before scheffler eventually opened the door? for darlington film. scheffler being led away in handcuffs, police telling him to stay back. >> right now. what right now? he's going to jail. >> okay. okay. he's going to jail and an aim that you can do about theory. there's there's nothing you can do bad thing. >> my body was just i was shaking the whole time. i was shaken for like an hour. it seems to be a he said he said
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situation scheffler says he was proceeding as directed by officers and his attorney says he never assaulted an officer with his vehicle in almost surreal set of events surrounding a golfer with a so far sterling reputation. he is probably one of the most docile guys and professional golf. he's just an incredibly happy go lucky, kind. two individuals. >> we have a scenario where scottie scheffler could be hoisting the trophy on sunday evening and then going to court on monday scheffler's attorney says the golfer will plead not guilty to the charges and will cooperate fully with the investigation as part of his statement today, scheffler also expressed sympathy with the family of the deceased accident victim, saying, quote, it truly puts everything in perspective wolff right time. thanks very much. let's get some more right now from a golf reporter for barstool sports, dan rapoport, the one thanks very much for joining us. you spoke with scheffler at that press conference just a little while ago. what bohr did he say about what this experience has been
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like? >> he. was remarkably com afterwards. and even when he showed up to the golf course this morning, he seemed really loose here. you cut the ice with all the guys said, hey, everyone, he was laughing on the tee. so he seems to have a clear conscience after it. he said, look, the officer was trying to do his job. it was a horrible situation with the accident. he didn't seem to have any ill-will toward the officer. it was just a a confluence of events that led to a really unfortunate seen i was the golf world, danny reacting to this rather bizarre situation resulting in the arrest of the world's top golfer it was absolutely stunning. >> i woke up this morning to a bunch of texts and i thought that they were links to like a spam thing or something, trying to get me to click on it. it was 150 he six players in the field, i think and he might be 156. but who you think would be most likely to be taken away in handcuffs. he just a soft-spoken, very religious guy is playing the best golf of his life really no reason for him to put himself in some sort of situation like this and all the other players said, look, we
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did the same thing this morning was a super chaotic scene. i went around traffic and then release it to the exact same thing. so it's really hard to believe that this happened today. and who would happened to them? >> he tell us a little bit more about scheffler's reputation in the gulf world. is he at risk potentially of losing sponsorships? an endorsements, for example i mean, there's always a risk, but i don't think that he's going i don't think he's going to be like convicted of this. >> i mean the mayor of louisville got involved and the governor of kentucky issued a statement that said, i hope all parties can come to a solution that doesn't sound like someone is going to be held for felony assault charged. so i think it really will go down eventually as a big misunderstanding, the officer maybe didn't know that he was a player, a bunch of officers showed up on the scene because of the fatality. who knows what? they were told, who knows what he knew at that time, it's impossible to know, but it's looking very unlikely that scottie had any sort of nefarious intentions. >> as you know, scheffler played in the pga championship after being released today by
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police update our viewers. how did we perform? >> he performed like scottie scheffler performs always. now, he shot 66. he's nine under par for the tournament, very much in contention. he won the masters. so this would be two majors in a row, is won four of his last five starts. and it was a masterclass in compartmentalizing because i can't even imagine studies stretched in a jail cell this morning, which, which definitely didn't expect to do this week. so to show up here really and 35 minutes, he usually want like an hour of preparation, went up to the first birdied the first hole, and it was happy he moved on interesting dan rapoport, thanks very much for joining us judge me i had do revelations coming into cnn to the new reaction we're getting to the revelation that an upside down flag that's been a symbol of the election denial movement was seen outside the home of us supreme court justice samuel alito alito's explanation, dao been disputed by his neighbors, who spoke to cnn let's good
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mundane at reagan national airport, this is cnn with the trump trial on break today anticipation is building for michael cohen's return to the stand on monday. >> the defense is expected to keep working to try to undermine cohen's credibility after scoring some major points yesterday, trump's lawyer got cohen to admit he didn't fully remember a key phone call portrayed there's a direct link between trump and the stormy daniels hush money deal are legal experts are joining us now. they're following it all. tim parlatore to me, start with you. trump's attorney todd blanche spent the entire day yesterday grilling michael cohen and trying to catch him in lies you expect to see more of that on monday i do. i think that he covered a lot of ground there's still a few more points to cover, so i think it's just gonna be continuation of the same to the extent that he can find any other ways to try to undermine some of the other phone calls. >> i think he'll try to do that, but that's really going
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to depend on what text messages they may have in the discovery norm, you are in the courtroom yesterday for the dramatic moment when todd blanche press cohen on whether the phone call allegedly linking trump to the hush money scheme was actually about a 14-year-old prank color what was your takeaway from that? and how will prosecutors tried to clean it up on redirect wealth? >> it was the single best moment of todd blanche's cross-examination which otherwise meandered and left a lot out of loose sands and it was a powerful, there's no doubt about it. it was a blow on the chin, on the other hand there's a tremendous amount of corroborating and supporting evidence. and it takes more than one punch to devastate the very strong proof, which i
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believe the district attorney has adduced here. it didn't night knock michael cohen out either. he didn't recant his testimony. he was clearly shaken, but he stood by what he had said. so i thought it was an important moment, but not dispositive in the case, they will redirect by making clear that in context that this call was a brief one, that there was ample time for multiple subjects. you can get a lot into 96 seconds. we do that all the time. wealth and finally that there are other direct calls because with trump, including two on the morning of october 26, clearly placed by cohen directly to trump. that also substantiate trump's involvement with a great deal of other evidence tim we're
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just learning that an ethics complaint about judge merchan for his $35 donation democrats back in 2020, was dismissed last july with a warning. >> how much is trump going to seize on that i mean it's certainly it's a political point for him to seize on but do i think that that's actually going to affect the outcome of the case or create an appellant issue no, i don't i mean, i've appeared in front of judge merchan myself. >> i tried try the case in front of them and i don't think that it's really necessarily affecting this trial too much but it is a good political talking point for them. >> what do you think norm i think that tim is as usual. >> absolutely right. >> no legal basis here over 30 other judges received such warnings in the period of time
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it's a very small donation. >> it's not an ethics violation and what i've seen in court every day and i know tim knows this from his time before judge mug shot and extremely fair, judge, who very often rules for trump and the defense as so i don't think it bears upon the integrity of the case. tim, when i have you, i want to turn quickly to the 2020 election subversion case in arizona. former trump lawyer jonny smear, pleaded not guilty today to try to overturn that state's election results. mark meadows, rudy giuliani, 16 others are doing court next week. how strong you think this case against them is? >> i think that this this indictment is far better written and better put together than the one in georgia or quite frankly, the one in dc, because it's the first time that i've seen anybody put together a coherent theory. in
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my opinion about the difference between the so-called fake elector vectors versus alternate electors theory to provide the question for me is going to be it seems like they do have emails that are back that up and it does seem to put people like boris epstein and mike roman, right in the middle of it is that going to be able to be going up the ladder to people like rudy giuliani, mark meadows those maybe not. i think that they're going to have difficulty connecting it up, but i think they're also going to have difficulty connecting it down. and the benefit to the electors themselves. but i do think it's a much stronger case and more intelligently put together than the one in georgia norm, let me get your thoughts. >> how do you see it? >> well in the big picture, wealth, what we have seen is accountability both for the former president and those who were involved now in states across the country will have a very important day in that
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larger context for arizona and the other cases because monday will mark the de that a represents the time interval that the supreme court used to decide the 14th amendment case as it applies to the federal election interference case. so everything is moving. hopefully the federal will two, we shall see norm eisen and tim parlatore to both of you. thank you very much coming up. >> new developments out of the middle east that israel recovering the bodies of more hostages killed by hamas choice it tells us up brands with a hotel for any traveler you want to be like quality in for the dad that gets every dollar and minute out of this family road trip the day is upon us. >> book it choice hotels.com. >> hello. >> can the riva support your brain health? >> mary janet, hey, eddie know
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>> hamas is terrifying rampage at the nova music festival on october 7 did not survive the de hamas terrorists killed shani louk, amit bouskila, and yitzhar learner ten miles down the road from the festival according to the israeli military, their bodies taken into gaza and held hostage. until now, plus night these were defense forces and isa forces rescued the bodies of all hostages. >> the israeli military now says their bodies are back on israeli soil, returned to families who have endured more than seven months of uncertainty and anguish. >> our hearts go out to them to the families. at this difficult time we will live no stone unturned we will do everything in our power to find a hostages
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and bring them home 23-year-old shani louk, seen here at the festival hours before her death. >> this image of her bonnie being hauled into gaza, embodying the brutality of hamas is attack. her family learned in late october that she had been killed. >> we cannot do get rid of funeral. >> her father now telling israeli media, they can find peace and the government than other shabat. >> this was like a present for shabbat for us. and now she'll be able to find her place in the cemetery. we can put a bouquet for the two other families, a different type of closure for months. the family if i'm input scala, a 28 year-old fashion stylists, had no information on civilian then we know nothing about her, not one person has seen her and is capable of telling us anything about her or any of the others really, nothing the israeli military operation also
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confirming for the first time the death of eats ha get learner, a 58 year-old, father of four and grandfather of two in israel. reaction pouring in from across the political spectrum with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu calling the news heartbreaking, vowing, we will turn all of our hostages, the living and the deceased alike but there is no clear path to securing their return. >> ceasefire negotiations at a standstill, the families of the remaining hundred and 25 hostages clinging only to hope. >> and fear jeremy diamond cnn jerusalem jeremy, thank you. >> and there's more news out of gaza tonight's the pentagon says, humanitarian relief is now reaching a territory through a temporary pier built by the us military but some aid workers say it's still not enough. and they appear won't be able to replace the need for more aid convoys over land. the

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