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is up next the art of the deal by joe biden at michael smerconish and philadelphia. >> did president biden just snuck or president trump with regard to the debates? by now, you know, the candidates reached an agreement this week, they will debate outside the framework of the commission on presidential debates. they'll square off twice first in june, then in september, potentially with a vice presidential debate in-between, it seemed quick and organic, but i have my doubts two weeks ago, co-founder and co-chair of the commission on presidential debates frank fahrenkopf was my guest here. i asked him if he'd heard from either campaign other than the criticism that we just heard from the trump campaign with regard to trying to move the bates earlier in which we think we've answered as best we can,

we can answer it. >> we've had no contact with either campaign, which is not unusual cycle, where you normally don't have contact with pressed republican and democrat and other people who may be able to be on, for example, the green party will probably qualify. and jill stein will be their nominee. we don't talk to them until after their nominating convention. >> well, then on wednesday morning, president biden released a video in which he goh to trump to debate him outside the commission framework found trump lost two debates to me in 2020. >> it sends said he hadn't shown up for debate. now he's acting like he wants to debate me again, well, make my day pal. i'll even do it twice. so let's pick the dates, donald, i hear you're free on wednesdays trump quickly accepted biden's challenge, and within hours, both cnn and abc announced they'd be hosting the debates. >> it seems implausible to me that agreement on such an important and complex matter could have been achieved so quickly. did trump's eagerness to get biden into the ring

result in impulsivity, where he surrendered his leverage and made a bad deal i mean, think about it only two debates instead of the standard three no audience, no input on moderators know fox news, and no rfk jr. that last agreement was probably the easiest deal point. bobby's the wildcard. they both rather not face initially the thinking was that he'd pull more support from biden then from trump, which explains leiden campaign celebrating the endorsement of many kennedy family members and readying an effort to oppose those bobby's ballot access. i'll talk to robert f. kennedy jr. in just a moment but then came polls showing it's not so straightforward. kennedy's populist message also draws from trump. the result it seems to depend on the individual state under the commission on presidential debate rules that candidate needs to be on it getting at least 15% of the poles and on enough state ballots to reach 270 electoral votes. kennedy has been

climbing in the polls and gaining ballot access, but it's impractical to think that he can meet that threshold by next month and speaking of polls, they show that biden is behind trump. that's the uniform story told by national and battleground surveys. just this week, a new york times sienna college poll partnered with the philadelphia inquirer. it showed biden traveling trump in four of the six battleground states to more or within the margin of error nothing. a trump trial the stock market hitting 40,000 and big-spending by biden, nothing has moved the needle in his direction and time as soon run short gone are the days when americans uniformly vote on one election day in november. next weekend is memorial day. many are then get a tune out for summer and when we reconvene in september, people will already be voting by mail debating now, it could be seen as a hail mary by biden perhaps the biggest advantage that biden gleaned was to

eliminate the audience. donald trump thrives on live crowds. even those that oppose him his retail game far exceeds that of joe biden. you can almost see the wheels turning in his head. what he calibrates leinz, do and don't work when in a crowd, a silent room, that's not his friend it steps on his oxygen hose and moreover, by agreeing to the framework proposed by biden, trump has surrendered any input on moderators and he's surrendered his home court. there'll be no fox news the be just two debates. now the pandemic that suited president biden insofar as it gave him reason to stay hunker down in delaware and let the spotlight shine on trump making the 2020 election a referendum on the former president but that's not going to work now. and the numbers of voters who strongly opposed joe biden, it exceeds that for trump. in the battleground states two debates. that's enough to end the argument that biden is in hiding. and less

than the three that brings added risk of ferpa so what did trump get out of this deal? well, a guarantee that there will be debates trump's confidence that biden will look frail and diminished in a side-by-side comparison, it's palpable i believe him when he says that he thinks biden is the worst debater he ever faced, and that he can put two sentences together. no doubt that's an opinion reinforced by watching only outlets that show biden stumbles on a loop but every time that trump criticizes biden's acuity he lowers biden's bar such that if biden can remain on his feet with his mouth moving, watchers might think he had a pretty good night remember, amid speculation as to whether biden my pool and lbj and stand down. he turned in a credible performance at the state of the union and put an end to that talk. at least for now earlier this morning, i spoke to independent presidential candidate robert f. kennedy jr.

about his exclusion from the debates. here's what he had to say. >> bobby. good morning. thank you for coming back to the program i have it up here. it seems like the only thing that the trump and biden campaign's can agree on is they don't want you on the debate stage. how come? >> i think i don't want to talk about it is bad. in only i could talk about a deficit 34 trillion like dad for years each these two presidents up almost half of that and they can't talk about it. and that's what's driving it. inflation they can't talk about the polarization is that tearing our country apart as they post feeding into it they can't talk about the lockdowns dissipated and shut down 3.3 billion of our business was

going to run are country like a that. and xi are businesses shut down 3.3 million shifted 4 trillion american middle-class two new archaea billionaires wars all of these issues that are really existential issues for our country and each one of these their own part in notation is to write says i'll take americans don't want the say, well, it might be those issues. it might be more of those issues, but i think it's the polls and they just view you as a wildcard. and between them, they can't decide from whom you pull more. >> and therefore, it's, it's easiest not to have you on that stage. >> let me ask you this right now. you're not consistently at 15%, although the, you seem

to be getting there and you're not in enough balance to get to 270 electoral votes on that basis. is it legitimate means of keeping you off the stage? >> first of all, an all but legitimate polls including the ols that cia it says is that it's going to rely on we do hit 50 the bowls that don't have this at 15% are asking the questions and the way that suppresses by the perceived support. so we have but monmouth all the bogle, cnn's own house, 50%. this spot the or type see what we have six your poll outlet, three 40 in an offstage at 300 electoral votes that's one of the

criteria. neither president trump are pressing is going to be on the bow. as he states at that time i think to see an error because they basically paid criteria a present, present piot and can't pay the parties are nominee nominee. he so they're not going to be ebit again only secure their party's nomination because there hasn't been a convention. yeah i only want are these three get that will qualify for that criteria of c and made i'm the only one that could qualify for it. >> is there any recourse that you're going to pursue well, we have a we don't legal

recourse if c that, deny you know, to see an atom there's plenty of court case that say, once you make an open challenge and dad and he published criteria you got a contract with people who can meet that criteria so we do have a contractual there are michael, there we have we have a parent is doctrine this country not works. >> dr. bobby, i think that went out in the reagan years. i mean, i i came of age as a broadcast or as that was waning. i don't think that applies, but by the way, i understand you're upset with cnn because cnn's hosting the first one, but it really seems like the fix was in in between trump and biden and some

network, if not this one some network was going to quickly snap it up yeah, i particularly out instead, age president trump says that he is happy right area fairness aspects of it that require equal to or is still in place. >> most of the doctrine was a bad during the reagan years. but those as x are still legal requirements. they do have to give equal time of action thank you so much for coming back and being heard on this issue. >> i appreciate it. >> thank you so much my youtube, bobby. thank you okay. >> coming up by now, you've heard about the upside down

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in and go and they've already helped save over 2 million pets michael cohen, the key witness, former trump fixer, will be back on the stand monday morning is the defense wraps up its cross-examination in the trump hush money criminal trial there's a critical blow to cohen's testimony on thursday when the defense grilled him over in october 2016 phone call that he had with trump's body man, cohen testified under oath at the call was about payments made to stormy daniels. >> the jury was later presented with evidence of text messages between cohen and trump's body man from that exact day? proving their conversation was centered around a prank and harassing telephone calls that cohen was experiencing, joining me now is elie honig, a former federal prosecutor and cnn senior legal analyst, elie, we both get so far into the weeds on this, but let let's give the stand back explanation. page 38, 94. i'm going to put it up on the screen right now of the trial testimony. was that credit the gold piece of cross-examination. what's the takeaway so michael, the reason

that this moment right here is different from what we've seen before is because it goes to the core credibility of the core witness, michael cohen, on a core aspect of this case up until now, all the cross-examination of michael cohen had focused on the fact that he had this long history as a liar, that he had this personal hatred towards donald trump, all of which is relevant, but none of which went to the actual payments at issue here. >> this piece of testimony by michael cohen, he got on the stand on direct when being questioned by prosecutors a few days ago and he said there was this call 8:02 p.m. october 24, 2016 and that's where i told donald trump the stormy matter has been resolved that was the purpose of that call. >> okay fast-forward a couple of days to cross-examination and it turns out there's a whole text chain right before and right after that call that shows the purpose of the call. >> was that michael cohen was getting harassed by this 14-year-old over texts and michael cohen wanted to essentially sick the sequence but service on her and cohen was on his heels when he got hit with that and he tried to spin and say, well, maybe we

discuss both things or maybe it was some other time. the problem is that's not what he said on direct. that's not what he said to the grand jury. it's a major problem for his credibility so anderson cooper was in the courtroom when it happened. >> i was watching cnn that night. there was a surreal moment, you are on camera. anderson now comes online and explains what it felt like in the courtroom. let's watch you could tell the important import of the moment and everybody in the courtroom can tell if you were unaware of the clicking of every reporter in the room who's typewriters. >> it was like a crescendo because the drama of the moment was so clear to everybody in the room. i think it's devastating. i mean, for michael cohen's credibility melody on this, i mean, there's one particular topic i found that really significant because i'm, i'm sitting at home or in my studio and i'm reading the trial transcripts. >> it's hard to know how how it played. that seems to play daily i had the same reaction,

michael, i was covering the case for cnn and we're relying on the dry feed that you all see on your tv. >> the screens on the side where you get texts, little updates that pop up and as it was happening, i said, well, this seems to me like it's very significant, but you don't know how it's playing in the courtroom. anderson came out and gave us his take, which was very similar to what we heard minutes later from kara scannell, one of our reporters from a retired new york judge, who has been coming out and giving us interviews. and to me that tells a lot. and by the way, when a core witness gets blown up like this in such spectacular fashion, even if it's only one part of his testimony that can resonate with the jury so powerfully, they will be instructed by the judge probably later this week that if you find that a jury lied to you in part of his testimony you have the right you don't have to, but you have the right to reject his testimony wholesale. and so i think that's what i'd be worried. okay. prosecute me now, give me the 30 answer to this, but i'm putting on the screen what my friend lanny

davis says is the retort. it's the quote, unquote smoking gun. allen weisselberg notation. lanny says you can remove michael cohen from the equation, the documents, the documents, the documents, especially that one. and you would say what ellie that document is an important and powerful piece of prosecution evidence, but it shows exactly why you cannot make this case without michael cohen the handwriting on those documents. >> there's two documents that are similar come from a combination of jeffrey mcconney and allen weisselberg via accounting people at the trump org, the person who links those notes, and that whole construct, which is the crime and the case, the accounting of the case, which is the crime, is michael cohen. if you take michael cohen's testimony out of this case, if you remove it there is no way to make this case the jury, if they do make the decision, they can't trust michael cohen they should not be able to return it a guilty verdict elie, thank you for that. >> you're doing a hell of a job. i appreciate you being here thanks, michael.

>> appreciate it one of the biggest mysteries in this case right now, what exactly is the felony that trump is being charged with? >> i talked about exactly that issue on my sirius xm radio program this week, it earned me a name check by the former president even my spirit, tanisha a person four or five weeks into a trial or be told exactly? that they're being prosecuted for that hasn't happened. >> you know what happened it didn't happen for one very simple reason for the region joining me now is jessica levinson a professor at loyola law school, who teaches election and campaign finance law. >> she also hosts the passing judgment podcasts. professor, thanks for being here. the prosecution is a two-step falsification of business records and then presumably an election law violation. what is the election law violation so

we think because the prosecution has mentioned this, that it will be a new york state violation, which we should note is interesting here because we have a federal candidate of former from a federal candidate. >> but briefly we think that the new york state election is one that deals with people entering into a conspiracy to try and undermine the election, to try and promote one candidate are hurt another candidate through unlawful means. and if that sounds complicated, i think it might be for the jury. one thing you mentioned in the introduction that i just wanted to say is that that new york case? that new york code that we're looking at as the second crime that itself could also be a misdemeanor. so you could have misdemeanor plus misdemeanor equals a felony this case professor levinson, do you think this increases the importance of the two attorneys who are on that jury because this is complicated stuff. >> and might therefore, other

jurors be looking to them for a little guidance in a way they otherwise would not have absolutely and, i think that's why both sides kept them on. so this is a fascinating case. it's a complicated case because as you know, it takes us a few minutes to describe it. and the longer it takes, the more sentences it takes for us to describe it, the more complicated it is for the jury. you can't just de a two beat. you have to say a to b to c, and then ultimately we get to d. so i think what the prosecution is hoping is that those lawyers will be basically a proxy for them saying, i know it's complicated, but bear with me first falsification of business records second intent to commit or conceal another crime. third, here's that other crime, i think for the defense, they'll say this is really they're hoping that those attorneys will say this is really complicated. let me show you all of the potential pitfalls with this strategy. >> i was named checked by him and you know, what he does,

right. because of the gag order, he gets fed information and what he walks out a chord, he reads things aloud. i guess that appeal to his opinion. i was simply saying on radio that i'm a civil litigator from philadelphia. i don't understand how you get to this stage. you have a trial without some clear articulation of what the charges are that someone is facing. respond to that my response is i think it's extremely frustrated for frustrating for us as members of the public because we can't just say it's definitely, it's definitely the new york election code or it's definitely federal election law, or the third potential bucket. >> it's definitely state tax off, but inside the courtroom and in terms of notice for the defendant, the prosecution has done enough here. they have had motion practice before the trial. they said, we think it's for potential crimes. the judge before the beginning of trial said you can point to three potential crimes. the prosecution in oral arguments,

excuse me, in the beginning of arguments said, we think we're going to point to. and they said this election code for me, it feels extraordinary because it's this case that's taking on so much weight and we're still thing, we think it will be this violation, but in terms of what's happening in the courtroom, in terms of notice for the defendant, all of the legal hurdles have been satisfied professor levinson. thanks so much for the expertise greatly needed by all of us thank you i want to remind you, go to my website, smerconish.com this our vote on today's poll question, obviously inspired by the alito flag flap should the spouse of a supreme court justice have to live their personal political speech. i'll give you a results at the end of the hour. here are some social media reaction thus far from the program. what do we have? >> from the world of twitter? >> cohen testimony, if this aerated defense team, trump

should prepare cohen's testimony, eviscerated the defense. wow. okay. really, even after what happened on thursday, here's here's what i think about the cohen's testimony as i'm reading from the sidelines i won't be surprised if when it ends, no matter how it ends, there are interviews done with a juror or jurors if they choose to speak, who say, you know what we got behind closed doors and the cohen's testimony was a wash and we made our decision and we rendered a verdict based only on that which came from other sources. that's the one prediction i'm not going to predict whether there's a hung jury or whether there's a guilty verdict but i feel pretty confident that's the way it's going. and then it begs the question, is there enough to get home? by the prosecution without michael cohen's testimony? my two sets up ahead will the upcoming presidential debates make it easier for biden to win a second term. my next guest mark

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mark mckinnon, former adviser to president george w bush, the late senator john mccain as well, and creator of paramount's the circus as recent piece for vanity fair is called why biden's debates with trump could be his meal ticket. great to have you back, mark. >> so i get it. i agree. a bold move by president biden, how risky for president biden? >> oh, it's huge, restless and it could end the campaign. it could be a complete meltdown. i mean, the good news for democrats, it might be a meltdown early enough. you could switch things out that convention, but i look at this from a, with a strategist hat. and who's been in this position before in 2004 specifically working for george w bush israel act. and he was approval as well below 50%. he's deepen the iraq war variant policies were unpopular and the last thing he wanted to do was to debate, but we had the same mr. president, unless you've got to make this a referendum on the other guy so the options for team biden work

don't debate, and that's not that's not sustainable, that's not an option if if he doesn't debate, he loses this election he is right now losing good donald trump. and so if you're clear, is strategy, as you say, we've got to change its equation and the best opportunity to do that is to get on stage with the, with the guide if you want to be the man you got to beat the man. and by the way, the other thing, michael is that the most important perception of a candidate running for president is the perception of strength or the biggest problems is the perception of weakness. that's biden the biggest problem right now. a lot of that of course, is age-related, but the way that you fix, i mean, you can't get younger and the next six months, but you can't can get on shade with trump and show that you've got the stamina and the mental acuity to stand up to him on steak in my opening commentary and you and i see this very similarly. >> i said that i thought that trump had been out negotiated at the top of the list of concessions that i think he made, giving up an audience that's his oxygen hose. you

put donald trump in a sterile box. it's not like putting them in front of 80,000 people in wild would new jersey that's exactly right. and that's another reason why this was so smart for the biden campaign. i mean, the other option would you just wait for months? du the usual thing where you just let trump bang on you for three months, about anywhere, anytime any place. >> and then finally, given and debate in september and just cave this way, you do it on your terms and end. >> he got the got, you got the platforms that he wanted. he wanted the rules that he wanted i think in a lot of ways, of course, i'll never admitted that it cut the trump campaign flat-footed. and i think that you'd like to have negotiated some of these terms, but right now, biden is going to debate it's gonna do it on his term hey, marc, will you say a word about the expectation game? i think that the trump has so lowered the bar for biden. he's made it easy for it to be exceeded. i note that in minnesota last night he said he wants them to be drug tested. so maybe he's trying to plant a seed that if biden does well well somehow he is drinking red

bull or some such thing. i don't know. but the expectation importance address that 100% michael debates are all about expectations. they're not forensic debates like you do in college where you're graded on points it's all about the expectations and right now as the table is set their expectations are very high for donald trump and they're very low for joe biden. and so it's a strategy. >> what you want to do if you're trump has to say five is the greatest debater since cicero. >> you, what you want to raise the expectations on, i'm not lower in which trump has done. and by the way, that drug testing thing is the first signal that maybe trump is looking for a way out of the debate himself, or find a way to renegotiate the terms mark mckinnon, always great to have you. thank you by the way, michael is a small d democrat and citizen merck mechan, i of course, would like to see everybody on the stage, including stay in power thank

you for name checking the protagonist in my novel, talk. >> up ahead. supreme court justice samuel alito is taking heat for the flag and how it was flying outside his house namely upside down, that brings us to today's poll question. it's where kaddish.com, i've no idea how this is going to turn out, which is why i love it. should the spouse of a supreme court justice have to limit their personal political speech and tonight, right here on cnn, join us for an intimate look at the pioneers inspired to help you humanity and transform society for the best i'm talking champions for change, which airs tonight at nine eastern only on cnn russia is we're trying to spy on us we were spying on them i was id friday this is a war but secret was secrets and spies, a nuclear game premier sunday, june 2, that ten on cnn your

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world's news senate judiciary committee chair dick durbin, calling for supreme court justice samuel alito to recuse himself immediately from cases related to the 2020 election and the january 6 insurrection including the question of the former president's immunity in us v. >> donald trump which the supreme court is currently considering. this comes after the new york times reported an upside-down american flag was found hanging outside the virginia home of justice alito, just a few days before biden's presidential inauguration. in 2021. this inverted flag is used as a symbol by some trump supporters who challenged the legitimacy of biden's victory. it has become a recurring prop of the stop the steal movement. the photo was captured by neighbors. it's unclear how long the flag was flown outside of the justice's home, but in a statement to the times alito said, quote, i had no involvement whatsoever in the flying of the flag. it was

briefly placed by mrs. alito in response to a neighbor's use of objectionable and personally insulting language on yard signs fox news host shannon bream revealed in a series of tweets that a neighbor of the alitos reportedly had an f trump sign within feet of where children wait for the school bus mrs. alito brought this up with the neighbor who then replaced it with a sine, personally addressing mrs. alito and blaming her for the january 6 attacks things escalated further. justice alito said at one point, the neighbor engaged in vulgar language directed at mrs. alito including use of the seaward justice alito claims the flag was his wife's response to these very personal and political attacks last fall in response to the public scrutiny, the supreme court took on a code of ethics for the first time. this code requires justices to refrain from political activity joining me now is hofstra law professor and judicial ethics expert, james sample, who has testified before congress on supreme

court ethics, professor, thank you for being here. when does the conduct of a family member? trigger a judicial or in this case justices recusal it's good to be with you, michael, i think that the question is not the question that you have framed in your poll. >> i think that the question is not whether are not spouses need to refrain or be pro hit or should they be prohibited from political activity? the question rather is the one that you just posed, which is to say, when spouses of a justice or a judge engage in political activity, what are the consequences for due process and the appearance of impartiality when the judge or justice then rules on those very same matter if ginni thomas or mrs. alito wants to engage in political speech, there entirely free to do so. but when those matters come before the court particularly when they are very specific,

like ginni thomas is efforts in the january 6 insurrection and the facilitation of false electors like this new scenario, which is obviously still developing and we don't have all the facts, but should samuel alito, when he's home, he can say after the fact as he has, he can throw his wife under the bus if he wants, but that's a jointly owned home. if you're a neighbor walking down the street, you don't perceive that as mrs. alito is political? speech. you perceive that as political speech displayed at the home of the alitos plural okay, so are you therefore saying in this case he should recuse? there's no question that it is a close call and that there are reasonable arguments to be made that he should there's a federal statute on point set aside this code that the supreme court adopted in november really is a public relations effort that code is more loophole than law because the members of the court steadfastly refused to include an enforcement mechanism, but

congress has a statute on 0.28 usc section 4505. it says, whenever, uh, judge is impartiality might reasonably be questioned. that's the key phrase whenever the judges impartiality might reasonably be questioned, they shao mandatory language disqualify in the case of clarence thomas ruling on january 6 and 2020 election-related cases. it's a slam dunk, it's unequivocal. he absolutely has to recuse, but he has not unfortunately, his refusal to do so has created a kind of quasi precedent that creates cover for the closer call scenarios, like we have with justice alito. will justice alito recuse no. he will not i get i get that. >> the flag pole it's a complicating factor. like if if presumably they drive separate cars and she has a bumper sticker on hur's. i don't think we'd be having this conversation about holding him accountable. maybe you feel differently, but you look at the flagpole and i understand

what you're saying. it's the marital home and therefore, you suspect that must be a statement. each has been making there it is. >> we're showing it on the screen, but you heard the justices explanation and that provided via communications with a foxhole and he says, look, this was a for tat taking place with one of the neighbors. i had nothing to do with it. >> i mean, his after the fact justification and is after the fact blaming of his spouse aside, there are really only two possibilities here. michael possibility. one is that this was intended as a trivial, this is a neighborly dispute and the alitos or devolving and lowering themselves to a standard of pettiness that should be beneath the dignity of the court. that's possibility. one possibility too, is that this is a meaningful political symbolic gesture about a very controversial matter that was very likely and did in fact ultimately come before the court. and in that scenario now, there's a real question as to whether or not justice

alito can be fair and a great don't find i have to say, i don't i don't agree. i don't agree. there's there's choice three, which is taken at face value. that some neighbor puts up an f trump sign at a school bus stop and then and then calls her the seaward. and this was the response without regard for embracing and endorsing what transpired on january 6th, you get the final word, just make it 20 seconds well, i think that it's it's generous to take the word of a supreme court justice when that same supreme court justice has engaged in all sorts of failures of disclosure on the conflict of interest rules. >> i don't think justice alito here gets the benefit of the doubt and neither does the law, neither does the statute that's on-point right. >> but if if the facts are that these other activities were taking place in the neighborhood, i think it swings that pendulum at least back to the center line. i do appreciate you. thank you for being here. here thank you the professor does not like my poll

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all right. that's where things stand as of now. wow, you know, i don't like round numbers. i'm always suspicious of round numbers, but okay. should the spouse of a supreme court justice have to limit their personal political speech 30,000 plus voters. and it's running 70, 30, i guess in a note to mrs. alito, here's some of the social media reaction that has come in so far. what do we have? justices, wives, like all family members should use discretionary wisdom with their social involvements, rules need not replace comments. that's yeah, i get it. but what if it weren't the wife? what if what were the 17? doing, something goofy, but with political implications, i don't think you'd say that that's going to that's going to be something that would necessarily impact the justice whomever the justice might be. i think it's a tough case. she's got to political right to speech. you would think commonsensically that she would realize this is going to put my husband in a hell of a tight spot. more social media reaction. what do we have sorry

my question today, mrs. the issue it's not about her. he lives under that roof and optics are clear. okay. well, david, are you married? do you have a partner and what you think that the partner can necessarily control the situation if it played itself out in my house. i'm i'm not so sure what the flag would look like or if i could control it more social media reaction. what do we have real quick i keep hope that makes will happen. the biden handles or keep adding impossible to do stipulation, i want to see debates, but i think bobby ought to be on that stage if he's at 15% thank you so much for watching. i'll see you next week assignments are going on tornado here. i'm thinking, i'm going to die and i thought that was it. >> while and earth with liev schreiber premieres june 2 at nine on cnn hello, i see you have pro massaging bone, easier to grip massage and the power of two max strength pain relievers. i just works fast he

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