same smile that always made your day at much better we, in a world, now, we think about it, true believer and we use it as a disparaging term. but to me, i knew that she truly believed in her values. she truly believed in the things that she said and she didn't blame you for things you believed in. she was not a provocateur as so many who proclaimed to believe are she said what she felt because it was her calling and i will always hold very dear conversations are private moments together. her being my guest hosts on sirius xm, where i looked forward to her curious and wonderful wit in her ability to welcome everyone into the conversation and make it that much better world. where you say you should never talk politics with friends. she broke that rule because she remained a friend to so many. and i will deeply miss alice

stewart, her grace, and her spirit and so we'll so many others who she touched tonight on three, 60 disorder in the quarters, the judge in the former president's hush money trial criticizes the defense witness for breaking the rule the core also breaking news on the helicopter crash that killed a ron's president and eight others will have legs on the investigation. what it means for iran in the world. and later one-on-one with we didn't bill maher talking trump biden. would he thinks is wrong with american politics and culture. >> good evening. there was drama today in the trump hush money trial. the license which we have not seen in the more than five weeks are proceedings no sooner of the prosecution rested and the defense called another witness. the judge merchan cleared the courtroom rare act after the judge cited that witness, attorney robert costello, for improper courtroom behavior that included rolling his eyes and an audible sigh. at one point,

merchan said to costello, quote, if you try to stare me down one more time, i will remove you from the stand not something that defense likely wanted to see or hear is the whole purpose of colon costello, who had once given legal advice, the prosecution's star witness, michael cohen, was for him to undercut cohen's credibility the defense later as judge merchan to dismiss all charges over cohen's credibility issues, the judge would only say he's reserving his decision. trump's onetime fixer, an attorney spent more than 17 hours over four days on the stand. today, the defense got cohen to admit he stole from the trump organization for an unrelated expense that was included in the alleged 420 thousand dollars stormy daniels reimbursement at the heart of the felony charges against the former president. now, the prosecution has painstakingly try to use witness testimony to paint trump as a micro-managed manager who would know every detail about that payment in order for the jury to find him guilty of falsifying business records the prosecution also tried to rehabilitate damaging

testimony. cohen game on thursday when the defense used text messages between him and trump's bodyguard, keith schiller to suggest that a subsequent call on october 24, 2016 was not as cohen had testified, a way to contact trump about the final details of the stormy daniels payment meant but as the messages suggest, a conversation with only schiller about a 14-year-old crank color who was aggravating michael cohen. today, prosecutors showed a still photograph from this video of a trump rally that night in florida. you can see there trump waving and in the spot shadow keith schiller both sides stipulated the video concludes roughly five minutes before that 8:02 pm phone call. now, prosecutors were suggesting that it proves that schiller could have handed the phone to trump when cohen call that he was that close to him. now that's of course, up to the jury to decide a jury that the judge today said would here closing arguments next week, but not before cord is back in session again tomorrow with that lawyer, robert costello, back on the stand. i'm joined

now by criminal defense attorney arthur aidala, former federal prosecutor, jeffrey thuban, seen an anchor, abby phillip, who was in the courthouse today new york times senior political correspondent, maggie haberman and arun kara scannell because in the courtroom also with this johnny jones, former chief judge of the us middle district court of pennsylvania, carey. you were there and i know you just got the transcript what was that moment like between judge merchan and robert herself? >> it was really intense. i had not seen anything like this and it came as castello was on the witness stand being questioned by prosody excusing by trump's lawyers and the prosecutor's kind objected a number of times. i counted there were at least 15 sustained. objections. a judge saying castello couldn't answer the question because those former prosecutor. and even after the judge sustained some of them, he continued to speak. you could kind of see the judge getting frustrated, but then it snowballed after costello had after one of these sustained objections, castello let out a gs and it was audible enough to be heard in the back of the courtroom. and it was then that the judge excuse the jury. and once the jury was out of the room, he turned to costello and

said, mr. acosta hello, i want to i would like to discuss proper decorum in my courtroom. costello interrupts him and says, but i'm sorry, go ahead, judge. merchan, i want to discuss proper decorum in my courtroom. castellows is right. judge has. okay. so when there's a witness on the stand, if you don't like my ruling, you don't say jeez. okay. and then you don't say strike it because i'm the only one that can strike tests in the courtroom. do you understand that castula says, i understand. judge has. okay. and then if you don't like my ruling, you don't give me sayyed and you don't roll your eyes do you understand that du you understand that casella said i understand that. i understand what you're saying. we're sean said, okay. thank you. let's get the jury back and then there's this moment where the judge says to him are you staring me down right now? and castula says, no, i'm just wondering how and the judge says clear the courtroom, clear the courtroom. chaos ensues as they're trying to marshal thought all of the press and the number of media, people are objecting, saying we have a right to be here are lawyers here, and the officers saying everyone has to get out, has to get out. they remove us all.

>> so everyone leaves the courtroom of everyone. >> no, they didn't remove the politicians that were there supporting trump. they've removed the members of the media. and this one row of members of the public public in the courtroom and then we have the transcripts. so now we know what happened after that. and the judge had said to castello, serwer, your conduct is contemptuous right now. i'm putting you on notice that your conduct is contemptuous. if you try to steer me down one more time, i will remove you from the stand and castula says, can i say something, please? the judge? says, no, no, this is not a conversation wow maggie great stuff. >> before, i have never seen this before. be in a trial. were donald trump as the defendant and the witnesses, the person who is drawing this kind of outrage from the judge is not what i expected. because we had been looking for trump to be the person acting up in ways the judge would find upsetting any has a few times, but not like this. but it was not entirely surprising because anybody who has dealt with above hello knows that he can be a wildcard. and this is why a lot of people in trump's

world thought calling him was a risk. and we got to see what a risk it was because this all took place in front of the except for that. but at the end, but the objections all took place in in front of the jury the parts of cross that took place today by the prosecutors were not great for costello and so michael cohen, who is a key witness in this case, has gotten pretty roughed up by the defense by todd blanche, in particular, are specifically i should say, and today he said he stole from the yeah. >> and that was that was a came and in some ways was more significant than what happened last week, which was a pretty dramatic moment. but to then go into closing with what marsha sean clearly thought was a sideshow and he made that clear when he was talking about whether even let costello testified to certain things have castello behave this way and then just sort of have castello reinforce part of what prosecutors arguing here, which is that there is a sort of manabi aspect to this case and to a lot of the behavior by the trump people. it just doesn't seem to help i'm pleased.

it's like as if fox news jumped out of the television vision and into the courthouse today. and that's been the risk all along of bringing in a character like michael. costs are like bob costello. he is someone who obviously thrills the right with the way that he attacks michael cohen's character. i'm sure he thrilled donald trump with his testimony last week in front of the house a committee, but in a courthouse that is not the tone and the demeanor. i mean, we talk all the time about how judge merchan is a very soft-spoken judge. he does not want people. he does not raise his voice. >> and the general conduct of council, prosecution and defense is even toned and measured, even when they are making objections. >> so for something like that to unfold in this courthouse it's a sideshow judge. >> i mean, what do you make of how the judge handled it? well, my, first comment would be just

another de the office for judge merchan. i mean, i can't even imagine i would levitate out of my seat if i had a witness who is a lawyer an officer of the court, and knows better than to talk over me and give me the eye when he sitting there, i think he handled it perfectly to warn him that he was going to hold them in contempt. the greater question is from a tactical standpoint, why they call this witness and jurors tend, and i've said this before to sort of cleave to the judge, the judges that are protector, the person who breeds them sends them off at the end of the day they don't like when a judge gets walked on by a lawyer or in this case a witness, it leaves a really bad sensation of bad taste in their mouth and you know, to your point about stealing from trump that got washed over by this witness there was a moment and they took that moment away by coal in this witness with all due respect, your honore.

and i didn't mean to talk over you know, now, you know, on the defense attorney, i'm like, ladies and gentlemen of the jury michael cohen admitted to grand larceny grand loss. a. admitted that to the prosecutors in the within the statute of but to hearing charges against him he is so in their pocket they are so indebted to him that they didn't even charge him with a very simple crime. he admitted to the crime. he admitted it to them it's an insult, arthur, i don't i don't disagree with you. >> that that's a moment in the case. my question is, why you then you don't sell it gives a counter narrative costello look. i wasn't in the courtroom you guys were i don't know what that is. and i will tell you this, judge, when i defense attorney and i'm calling witnesses. and now, after i've walked the jury is watch the judge go question. answer a question, answer question, answer. and now i go up and i ask the questions. objection. sustained. objection. sustained. objections as saying

you know what, i looked at the jury, i they want this hushed up. they want this hush stuff. they don't want you to know this. >> i wasn't how the jury was looking at let's talk about the substance of castellows testimony and let's talk about costello. anybody remember the molar report? >> he's actually a big figure, maggie. and i were just talking about this he the exchanges between him and cohen are according to robert muller, a dangling of a pardon from donald trump, but he was allegedly sort of the emissary from trump-world to cohen to dangle exactly. and that's what you're going to hear in the cross-examination tomorrow? to add to this atmosphere of mafioso stinking, corrupt relationship between donald trump and michael cohen. >> the record all castellows irish. so i know you talk around mafioso and a guy named costello for the record, is i did make that i am i'm a little sensitive i meant i meant

presidency italian-american generic organized crime. >> can i just make a point that arthur's point, it is true. they called him because he tells a counter narrative and he tells a different version of a story then what michael cohen does with similar facts, he tells a version which is actually it was michael cohen reaching out to me and there's more extensive version. but that wasn't what look, the caveat. we don't know what the jury thanks. and we need to say that over and over again, at least in the courtroom, that wasn't what came through because he was stepping on himself. it wasn't just the objections. he at one point, susan hoffinger, the prosecutor who was doing the cross-examination of him, was asking a question and he spat out speak into the mic and the jurors, two of them looked at each other but when he did that, so i don't i don't know how much is that counter-narrative came through. i understand what you're saying. i think the client was very happy, but i think what the defendant is happy with and what the rest of his team is happy with his not always the same thing. >> that's all i'm saying. >> it's really one other point that i would just make in terms of what the judge said about how judge were sean handled it? i think they were sean has

actually been bending over backwards to be fair to the defense, the defense cannot stand him and that's very clear in everything. i think that with a lot of things he has done, he has tried not to be in confrontation with donald trump how you justify kicking out the press and keeping in donald trump's supporters when you say clear the courtroom, i don't quite know how that works. >> and the judge was also even before costello took the stand he expressed some concern for the defense that this was not a wise course of action. he basically was like, are you sure you want to go down this call to sack of this pressure campaign allegedly that michael cohen said he was subject to. he tried to warn them and they didn't listen and they put him on the stand anyway. we'll see what the result will be in the moment that i noticed today was with the clip from cspan, that there was an inability, apparently just and then they stipulated later they thought better of it. >> which you'd get at sidebar and say, are you kidding me that you won't stipulate to this and i understand it's a death cage match. nobody wants

to stipulate to anything at that point, but i'm not sure that that's a good tactic to du and maybe that's what the former president shook with michael cohen stealing from the trump organization how important is that well, i think it is. >> it gives the defense the opportunity to say he's not just a liar, but he's a thief. so you double up. it is important and it's going to come out and closing arguments and they'll lean heavily into it. i just don't know whether the jury doesn't have baked into the narrative already. this is a bad guy and they're not particularly surprised about it from my perspective, i don't know that it's as severe as it was made out to be in the moment today where i would agree with that because i mean, just being in the courtroom, i felt like there was a little bit of a dichotomy between people who were in the room and outside of the room. and i was an overflow but i was hearing the arguments as they were happening. the gist of the

story was both bad for michael cohen and also bad for trump because at the end of the day, the story was essentially that trump that michael cohen got a company to pay for trump to do better in some stupid poll that no one cared about and trump didn't want to pay the company and that michael cohen eventually gave them $20,000 in cash which and then took the money that the trump organization repaid him bad for michael cohen. but also the sort of little between the lines part of it is that trump probably would not have paid them at all. >> how about this? >> that doesn't make iri has been and we've covered it for four weeks trump is so careful for this money. he knows where every dollar goes he signs every check that tiffany frame $650 grand weight that went disappear. >> he didn't know that agree with you on that? and i think that i was surprised that the that the defense didn't actually doubled down on that because you're totally right

that it's not actually clear whether trump knew michael cohen was actually paying that company and the defense never really went down that road to say, well, if trump is so careful why didn't he know about this it is worth remembering. >> the prosecution did mention this in his direct testimony, so this was not a hidden bought imam shell. the other thing is cooperating witnesses often do terrible things and they get pretty good passes all the time and isn't that right i just need to say this for my own peace of mind. >> if donald trump is sitting in that seat, if barack obama was sitting in that seat, or joe schmo was sitting in that seat, whoever it is, i don't get what party or a member of if i am the district attorney, the way i was raised in the law, you do not bring the very first case ever against the president of the united states under these facts and circumstances where your main witness is somewhat as flawed as michael cohen. if i brought

this case to joe highs, the brooklyn de in 1995 i've he would have said already we're not calling. >> i also just do think yes, they did prosecutors did mention this. they didn't exactly signpost it, so it's still read like something is surprised. and also the keith schiller texts last week, they've got introduced that were todd blanche's big sort of pseudo perry mason moment i don't know why the prosecution didn't bring that out in the first place. two, there have been a number of missteps by the possible same i mean, it's well, i don't want that. >> i they may indeed have missed it, but it's not because they didn't have them big, big mistake here. >> everyone. thank you. still to come tonight breaking news on the iranian helicopter that crashed sunday, killing that country he was president and eight others with us defense secretary is now saying, and while the latest from our ivan watson and fareed zakaria join us and what it means for ron in the world. and later comedian bill maher joins us, discuss his new book. would this comedian said will shock you and the current state of america and its politics and be right back we're trying to save the planet with nuggets because

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comes at a precarious moment in iran's history, both domestically and internationally. >> cnn's i've and watson has more iran in a state of morning commemorating the shocking death of iranian president ebrahim raisi during the frantic hours when rescuers searched for the missing president the most powerful figure in the iranian political system supreme leader ayatollah coming a0b0, declared the government stable and strong melodrama as his dear people, whether you are sitting here or we'll hear my speed to later do not worry. >> there will be no disruption in the country's work inside iran, highly polarized reactions to the sudden death of a leader ryan raisi has been a face of repression in iran for a very long time. >> i'm not surprised that many will celebrate raisi was a regime hardliners sanctioned by the us government for allegedly

overseeing deadly crackdowns on iranian protest movements. >> and the us and rights groups say he took part in an alleged death commission that ordered the execution of thousands of political prisoners in 1988, which raisi has never responded to. >> i see more contiguity then change regardless of what happens next. according to the onion constitution, the little known vice president mohammad mokhber, has now become interim president, paving the way for elections to be held within 50 days. >> this is a system that has managed this kind of turmoil in the past. so in the short run, it can certainly manage choppy waters but in the longer run it's a system that is ideologically bankrupt messages of condolence are pouring in from longtime allies like syria as well as russia, which launches iranian shahid drones against cities and ukraine well

not yet also publicly morning, right? >> loss iranian-backed militant groups such as yemen's houthis hamas, and lebanon's hezbollah. meanwhile, few tears likely to be shared by iran, sworn enemy, israel the two countries long simmering shadow war or exploded into direct for tat, long-range strikes. just last month. >> i don't he will shift anything in the region or in terms of iran's relationship with its neighbors are neighboring powers. that's because most of the power iran lies with supreme leader ali khamenei, khuza'a still in power and he's the one who is calling all the shots. >> how the islamic republic deals with this deadly crash may set the stage for at year-old supreme leader, ivan watson would cnn we should know the new york times and the washington post reporting

tonight that iranian state media saying that the helicopter crashed resulted from a technical failure under cutting up former top iranian official who earlier said us sanctions were to blame. >> earlier today, the white house, who was quick to undercut any suggestion and had a role in the crash the united states had no part to play in that crash. and so that's, that's a fact plane and something that cnn's fareed zakaria joint as now, how important i mean, how significant is this? >> it is actually pretty significant because there are two things going on. iran and israel have been engaging in a fairly dangerous for tat, if you remember, april 1, israel kills and iranian general official of sorts two weeks later, iran launches 300 missiles and drones at this row, then israel, that's something very moderate and response just essentially took out one radon is fine so that's the international context and the domestic one is ivan mentioned is the how many the supreme leader is at years

old racy was seen as the odds-on dan successor, the guide, the president who died the only other person people are talking about is how many son much taba that will be very, very unusual. the remember this is a regime that came into power because it believed, did not believe in the dynastic succession that the shah of iran represented for it to become its own wei dynasty that would be turmoil, i think. >> so. what would i mean, what's going to happen? >> well first, company has to die. he is 85 years old. he's been ruling forever. >> but there will begin. you're going to start getting the factional politics his son is going to make a bid for it. his son was shopper has never held any office in an inner run before, so it would be a very unusual move. he is untested, but it's a black box, but the only the only two people who are being discussed we're raisi, the president who just died. and come any sun, how much power does an iranian

president has as a pair to the supreme leader? i mean, how, how do you, the supreme leader set strategy, the the, the president can execute that strategy. he can't eat. so it's almost like he's the secretary of state to the press. he doesn't it's significant racy the boat, the guys who, who died, i had them both on my program. they are real hardliners. >> there was a power struggle in iran between somewhat more moderate and more hardline factions. but when trump pulled out of the iran deal, all that happened, the moderates lost out completely. this is now a hardline country verging on a kind of military dictatorship. everybody, all your options are shades of hardliners and have the demonstrations largely. i mean in a been effectively crushed. right? this regime came to power through revolution. >> it knows how to stay in power and not have a revolution over unseated. >> it's a very clever mixture of lots of repression. >> a certain amount of

patronage, escape valves here and they're things like these elections yeah, it was a heroic movement. but ultimately, it's very tough when the regime is willing to use brute force on a massive scale. >> frigidaria. thank you so much. appreciate it we're now to ukraine were heavy fighting continues as russia tries to advance in the eastern kharkiv region, rushes trying to change the shape of the battlefield is there's billions in new us aid begin to arrive last week the pentagon said the first installments included air defense artillery rounds, armored vehicles, and anti-tank weapons. >> nick paton walsh has more on what the battle looks like right now from the front lines dusk begins a race to hide before dark it's this drone units first night in a new location nation twilight a tiny window when perhaps you can

unpack, setup without the russian drones that are always, always above seeing you as clearly like so much in this fast changing war, their task was unimaginable when moscow invaded the target is on the horizon. russia itself into which they fly and plant minds on q roads. they wait for dark. those lights twinkling over there on the horizon that belgorod, russia how close? they're operating towards russian mainland putin's latest offensive towards kharkiv has made the fight personal for artyom is parents live about a five-minute drive away? i'm fighting for his literal home is unsettling will need less. i want to deal why we're behind years for bakhmut you've shared

a scholarship block posterior now. >> now, for the first of many times, thahat only defense is t listen for drones now that but i'm not monday it passes now what it's dark then must hurry we're russian drones have thermal cameras they hear another. >> do you have all right well let's battles raging nearby may help them goh one noticed they resume any strike could also ignite the two minds.

>> they're fitting that they hear another drone such an escalation over two years into the war to now see ukrainians flying drones explosive straight into russia inside sasha watches it cross the border, most recorded onto a hoarder dawson when they're business less than communication last remarkably when russian jammy and kicks in, the drone keeps going

primary changed colon, and they're able to pick the signal up again deeper inside russia they spot the target road. >> they will mind dropped both payloads and head back a gps problem means that drone crashed lands, but they have a spare. they wants elsewhere managed 24 sorties one night but they have to be spotted only once. and these shells may not pass over the head. >> we leave quick might salford first to avoid drones the road. >> littered with anti-tank defenses, not laid out in time to hinder russia's latest advance and now they have only courage and engineered it to hold bag dark nick, how is morale among the soldiers right now is as the russian attacks on kharkiv have increased i

think it's fair to say a group like that, we'll with were pretty boyd by the task they're given feeding, they can actually take the fight. >> is it we're back into russia to russia something we didn't even know indeed happen that they were laying mines it's to interrupt the ability of russia to get across its own borders. but i also think in other units, we've been talking to around this area, it isn't particularly great. i think there is a sense of disconcerting that has not been adequate fortification put in place in the northern border to hold that russian offensive that took place about a week ago back and also that we're going to see a slow arrival potentially of western aid into people's hands to give them the by hand, the staggering thing anderson, those to see how drones have completely changed daily life on the front line, pretty much every unit we've been with since we've been here in the last week at some point, we've been told to run for cover to get away from the visibility of russian

drones flying overhead. sometimes they simply don't even know who the drone belongs to when hovers above them. and it's most likely russians trying to spot targets for the intensive airstrike, huge after on bonds or superior artillery, they've got more munition currently than the ukrainians to bring them to bear on those positions. so it does appear, yes. in recent days, the rushes as violence may have slowed their certainly not making the huge strides deeper into ukraine that perhaps they thought might be able to. but ultimately it is an uphill task, certainly, and it's one that may get different weeks ahead because at this stage, there are thoughts russia may start probing and other parts around the frontline rather than necessarily focusing on the areas is already hit here north of kharkiv, anissa behind me, just we've heard explosions over the night, but it's desolate, it utterly silent, lights off harkey, bracing, frankly, for any potential russian attacks

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basically you're commentaries from the last 20 years. yes. we edited and yeah, really exact. match and i wanted to people kept saying to me, you know, these editorials you do at the end of the show when it is what i worked the hardest on there. >> i mean, they really hold up, they really do. >> i appreciate you saying that, but it is true. i went through them a not all of them du or did and that's why i spent all those months when we were on strike going through all of them, pick the creme dla crown, reason. i got to say i was skeptical when i hear is like, oh, 20 years of stuff. >> yeah, it's really it's oil. >> when you're dealing, when you have 20 years of stuff, you can be very choosy and just take a real great stuff and put it together. >> i put it in chapters have made it make sense by topic. and it is kind of like an encyclopedia of every gosh darn good thing i ever set trump. >> seems to hate you get not blame him. >> i'm i'm you early on. he stood me in 2013. yeah, about the aranda tags thing which is a ridiculous law through people

think it was some you said something like, well, they think it's a defamation. it was not a defamation lawsuit. it was way stupider than that. and michael cohen, mosley, one delivered the letter, but i had he was offering obama 5 million no. actually, to produce his college records because he's a racist and he thinks it's suspicious of black man went to college apparently okay. so i offered him $5 if he could prove he was not the son of an orangutan because we showed the picture of an orange hair to rank attack and they, the coloring is exactly it does look like they're related, but of course they couldn't be. but he came into court and demanded the $5 million because he produced his birth certificate proving he was not. in fact, and michael cohen is the one who delivered well, he wasn't a lawyer on the letter, but the letter is hysterical. i mean, that my client is not this really can you believe that this is the it seems like it's going to be the only trial that will go before the election. >> well, i've been moaning and railing about that on my show

because i mean, i tore merrick garland a new one a couple of weeks ago because i think the democrats blue it as they always do with this kind of stuff because they've had for years what was all the delay about what why are we coming to the end? of course, they're going to try to run out the clock and they did. and so if this is the only one, the one that's the one they probably shouldn't have brought anyway, or if they did it was really a election violation. election law violation trial that should have been tried nationally on a federal level. and it wound up to be falsifying business records on the state level. so it's already in the wrong court and why didn't garland bring this earlier federally or why aren't any of these being wrapped up in four years? it's just so ridiculously write in the book about how you did this documentary, religious and that you'd say in the book that atheists often come up to you and say that they've become

atheist but after seeing this, but that no one, no supporter of trump comes up to you know, has ever come up to you and said, i'm no longer i'm off the trump train because of what you said or vice versa you i cannot change people's. this is why, i mean we feel like one of the themes of the book is add in my show all the time. i'm just saying, you can hate trump, you can't hate everybody who likes him it's half the country. okay. and i mean, look, no one was harder on trump or will be harder on trump. and i think i was out front on predicting he was not going to leave office but you can't change people's minds like that. sometimes they just like a guy. and i also concede that there are so much, so much goofing is also on the left, right that i do understand why people go yet trump is crazy and we don't really like him, but you know what, what you're selling scares me even more. well, what's and that's what people i think have to understand is to see both those

sides. >> what's entering into is you are very much and you've talked about this on your show you call itself in n14 me, and you're going to see yourself the middle. >> but it's itching because the wright quotes you when you say stuff that anti-war, okay. at courts. and the left, yes. decries you and then the left likes you when you say something bad about trump. and this is one of our big problems is that we're all in our bubbles we are all in our media bubbles. and so many people just want to hear coming back to them what they already believe in an echo chamber. >> most america is in the center. but you don't see that in the media, right? >> i mean absolutely pertains to this network this network is trying to establish now, i think again, that we are the center where you can be on either side. and of course that was very hard to maintain during trump's presidency because he does things that are so out of the realm. they are not normal and so when you criticize them, you sound like you're on the left. it's a

very hard thing to find, but that's what i'm always trying to find that place. and it's not that we're ever going to be agreeing on things. it just that we can't hate each other. i am tired of the hate i don't want to hate half of this country and i don't hate me for this country. >> we're going to take a quick break. we'll have more with bill maher in a moment oh, cornea zelda, it's gotten me. >> i saw them. that's what i said. god-man, saada carnot got to me. what with more flavored, got any carnage icing it like this, juicy why, choose a sleep numbers smart bad? >> can it keep me warm when i'm cold wait, no, i'm always hot. >> sleep can i make my side softer? >> i my sayyed firmer, squeeze number. does that can help us sleep better? and better? >> sleep number? does that 94% of smart sleeper report better sleep? now say 50% on the speak

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know what look when you tiktok vision works see the difference we're back with bill maher and we left off talking about the polarization carlene american, his new book he writes and i quote, would anyone ride the new york city subway wearing a maga hat? >> would anyone goh to nascar race? biden t-shirt while they can f joe biden that's where we are now where we're other parts of the country you're seen as scary, no-go zones went on to say america is like a prison now where the inmate's think they need to join the gangs to survive and we dare not walk on the wrong side of the yard. but laura is back it is. i mean, the polarization section is so real and very how does that chain i mean you look

back like in the 70s, america was very polarized. there was political bombings. would, so i don't know if it's the same level or just a different form. >> well i think the difference is, well, fox news came along in the 90s that changed everything that msnbc obviously became a mirror of that in a way. i mean, i think they're much more realistic about what they talk about and i usually agree with them more, but same thing is that you're you're only you're only giving one side of the story, but press rates me the most about the media is that whatever i hear, i don't fully trust, it's not that i don't believe what you're saying, but i don't think you're giving me the whole story before if we go even further back than that, i think even before social media, people just did not use to talk about politics 24/7 to everyone they ever met. first of all, you earn in touch with everyone you ever bet, but you aren't on facebook, then so facebook became a place where you're arguing with your eighth grade

lab partner, kobe but ivermectin nurses just so everybody's ginned up all the time. and so there's this level of hate. i mean, that you were quoting from that last chapter, which is called divorce and there are lots of people who talk about this divorce, you know, america should get a divorce or maybe we should separated two different states first, let's not possible. second, votes not desirable. our strength was always, i thought that our diversity that we are different and i'm always preaching to people that everyone's like you get over yourself, people grow up in different parts of the country with very different values and you can't own them or destroy them and they're not going anywhere then itself deporting, you can win every election, half the country. the losers are still going to be here and they can't have them see thing. we're always see anything about each other. >> it does seem like the many folks not i don't know if there's many, but certainly the loudest folks who get into

congress run on. not necessarily to make deals and to actually get stuff done. it's to own the libs are own the trump pions and it's not necessarily about any kind of moderation is a nasty were any kind of making an emmy will deal. >> i mean, to me, you're presenting more of a false equivalency on this issue than i would the democrats in congress on a certainly don't agree with all of them. and there are some that are way out there. won't say any names. the squad that i don't agree with a lot of stuff but they're generally still the same party of our type of government are parliament, if you will, the republican party's unrecognizable, especially the congress people, they're just there to do performance nonsense. they're there to like, i burners their credentials to get a show on fox news or nothing order, deal

people. like marjorie taylor greene and just a real mental midgets that who they are not interested in legislation, they don't know how it works. not really interested in improving the country. they are just interested, as you said, in owning the libs, making liberals cry their tears and getting revenge, and also their cultish, their natural born cultish. i was saying this on my show friday night and somebody objected, but it's true i'm sorry the old line was always democrats fall in love, republicans fall in line and they always say, they always, they fall in line before behind their candidate. and now they found a candidate who is a cult leader. so that quality of falling in line very dangerous now, because it's sort of in their nature. >> well, i mean, you pointed this out the other day. i was obsessed with this the other day in court, and i saw it on your show you have to. dress identical. now to trump, i mean, that's just the weirdest thing to me. it's just the most clear is the clearest representation of just the

ridiculousness they're all wearing these red ties. i mean, there was a shot outside the courtroom, literally they're all wearing the same thing. >> always a good sign when the right-wing party starts wearing a uniform that's like i have been using this phrase, slow moving coup since before trump was elected the first time before he even got elected, i said this is a slow-moving goo, and this is just, i watch these dominos fall one-by-one. the signs of a country that is moving into a different realm and it's happened in many other countries, famously, rome was a republic and then it was a dictatorship under julius caesar. and i see this american caesar slowly taking us down this road. that's the first thing i thought when i saw the red tie and the same they're wearing the trump uniform that this is a, another rubicon we're crossing. >> bill maher graduations on the book. the book is just comedian said will shock you it is out now, coming up next, remembering a good friend of

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everybody show powering progress this is cnn the world's news network. >> finally tonight, a good friend of mine and many others here it seen and joey been taro died recently. it was sudden and it was shocking and for all of us who knew him and loved him, it is still hard to believe jolie pin tara was larger than life outrageously talented, outrageously funny, and frank. he spoke up and spoke out often and often loudly she was a little more low rent than i thought she'd be. >> like if she was something the occ beef from queens what are i'm not going to say

she's lovely lady joey was my assistant. >> my right hand for more than a dozen years at cnn and he was great at it but working with me, that was just his side hustle as his friend monaco lynch said recently, joey had a lot of hustle and his bustle. joey was all about music that's him in 1982 in the mail room at tommy boy records. he started their packing lps and ended up producing them. he played a huge role in the latin freestyle movement and helped a lot of musicians make hits a few years ago, he started his own label, fly groove, and was making new music right up until the end joey got knocked down more than once in his life, but he always got up and always move forward in her poem, summer de mary oliver asked what is it you plan to do with your one wild and precious life? will joey pin taro did a lot with his and he touched a lot of people along the way