you hear that be concise? >> concise, alice? sure. you're talking about you don't want to be more be concerned be brilliant what goes through your mind seeing that? >> what goes through my mind is the connection that can i had that was funny and it was light and she would tease me about going on way too long and filibustering so that she wouldn't get it chance to talk and i would tease her about the same exact thing. but, you saw that we just had this connection that was so special and i am i am going to miss her dearly and she's going to leave a huge hole in my heart and i know in the hearts of everyone here at cnn, so i want to thank you and everyone here for everything that you're doing for her in the family? does two, they are overwhelmed and over the moon about how you all have treated her here. so she was really, really special woman and we loved her very, very much. >> maria. thank get very much. and i'll give you a hug after the show. thank our deepest,

deepest condolences to alice stewart, family makes you >> the rest in peace and may your memory be a blessing? >> i'm wolf blitzer in this room. thanks very much for watching the news continuous. next, on cnn tonight on three, 60 disorder in the quarters, the judge in the former president's hush money trial criticizes a defense witness for breaking the rules decor, also, breaking news on the helicopter crash that killed a ron's president and eight others will have the latest on the investigation. what it means for iran in the world. and later one-on-one with comedian bill maher talking trump biden what he thinks is wrong with american politics and culture good evening. there was drama today in the trump hush money trial. the likes of which we have not seen in the more than five weeks of proceedings. no sooner or the prosecution rested and the defense called another witness, and the judge merchan cleared the courtroom. rare act after the judge cited that witness, attorney robert costello, for improper courtroom behavior that included the rolling his eyes

and an audible sigh. one point, merchan said to costello, quote, if you try to stare me down one more time, i will remove you from the stand not something that defense likely wanted to see or hear is the whole purpose of colon costello, who had once given legal advice, the prosecution's star witness, michael cohen, was for him to undercut cohen's credibility the defense, later as judge merchan to dismiss all charges over cohen's credibility issues, the judge would only say he's reserving his decision trump's onetime fixer, an attorney spent more than 17 hours over four days on the stand. today, the defense got cohen to admit he stole from the trump organization for an unrelated expense that was included in the alleged $120,000 from me, daniel reimbursement at the heart of the felony charges against the former president now the prosecution has painstakingly try to use witness testimony to paint trump as a micromanager who would know every detail about that payment in order for the jury to find him guilty of falsifying business records the prosecution also tried to

rehabilitate damaging testimony. cohen game on thursday when the defense used text messages between him and trump's bodyguard, keith schiller to suggest that a subsequent call and october 24, 2016 was not as cohen had testified, a way to contact trump about the final details of the stormy daniels payment but as the messages suggest a conversation with only schiller about a 14-year-old crank color who was aggravating michael cohen. today, prosecutors showed a still photograph from this video of a trump rally that night in florida. you can see there trump waving and in the spot shadow keith schiller both sides stipulated the video concludes roughly five minutes before that 8:02 pm phone call. now, prosecutors were suggesting that it proves that schiller could have handed the phone to trump when cohen call that he was that close to him now that's of course, up to the jury to decide a jury that the judge today said would here closing arguments next week, but not before cord is back in session again tomorrow with that lawyer, robert costello back on the stand. i'm joined

now by criminal defense attorney arthur aidala, former federal prosecutor, jeffrey thuban, seen an anchor, abby phillip, who was in the courthouse today. new york times senior political correspondent, maggie haberman, and our own kara scannell, who was in the courtroom. also with this johnny jones, former chief judge of the us middle district court of pennsylvania, qarrah. you were there and i know you just got the transcript. what was that moment like between judge merchan and robert costello? >> it was really intense. i mean, i had not seen anything like this and it came as castello was on the witness stand being questioned by prosecutors excusing by trump's lawyers and the prosecutor's kind objected a number of times. i counted there we're at least 15. sustained objections, the judge saying costello couldn't answer the question because those a former prosecutor and even after the judge sustained some of them, he continued to speak. you could kind of see the judge getting frustrated, but then it snowballed after costello had after one of these sustained objections, kosinski let out a gs and it was audible enough to be heard. the back of the courtroom and it was then that the judge excuse the jury, once the jury was out of the room,

he turned to costello and said, mr. costello, i want to i would like to discuss proper decorum in my courtroom. costello interrupts him and says, but i'm sorry, go ahead, judge merchan, i want to discuss proper decorum in my courtroom. castells is right. judge says, okay. so when there's in this on the stand, if you don't like my ruling, you don't say jeez. okay and then you don't say strike it because i'm the only one that can strike testimony in the courtroom. do you understand that casella says, i understand. judge has okay. and then if you don't like my ruling, you don't give me sinai and you don't roll your eyes. do you understand that? do you understand that casella? well said i understand that. i understand what you're saying. we're sean said, okay. thank you. let's get the jury back and then there's this moment where the judge says to him, are you staring me down right now and castula says, no, i'm just wondering how and the judge says clear the courtroom, clear the courtroom. chaos ensues as they're trying to more shot all of the press and the number of media people blur objecting, saying we have a right to be here are lawyers here, and the officers saying everyone has to get out has get out. they remove us all.

>> so everyone leaves the courtroom of everyone. >> no, they didn't remove the politicians that were there supporting trump, but they've removed the members of the media. and this one row of members of the public in the courtroom and then we have the transcripts. so now we know what happened after that. and the judge had said to castello, sir, your conduct is contemptuous, right now. i'm putting you on notice that your conduct is contemptuous. if you try to steer me down one more time, i will remove you from the stand and castula says, can i say something, please? the judge says, no, no, this is not a conversation wow. >> maggie, great stuff. >> before, i have never seen this before in a trial were donald trump as the defendant and the witnesses, the person who was drawing this kind of outrage from the judge is not what i expected because we had been looking for trump to be the person acting up in ways the judge would find upsetting any has a few times, but not like this but it was not entirely surprising because anybody who has dealt with bob costello knows that he can be a wildcard. and this is why a lot of people in trump's world

thought calling him was a risk. and we got to see what a risk it was because this all took place in front of it, except for that bit at the end. but the objections all took place in front of the jury the parts of cross that took place today by the prosecutors were not great for costello. and so michael cohen, who is a key witness in this case, has gotten pretty roughed up by the defense, by todd blanche, in particular are specifically i should say. and he he said he stole from the yeah. >> and that was and that was a key moment. and in some ways was more significant than what happened last week, which was a pretty dramatic moment. but to then go into closing with what marsha marsha and clearly thought was a sideshow. and he made that clear when he was talking about whether even let costello testified to certain things have castello behave this way and then just sort of have castello reinforce part of what prosecutors are arguing here, which is that there is a sort of manabi aspect to this case center. a lot of the behavior by the trump people. it just doesn't seem to help

i'm pleased. >> it's like as if fox news jumped out of the television and into the courthouse today. >> and that's been the risk. all along of bringing in a character michael costs are like bob costello. he is someone who obviously thrills the right with the way that he attacks michael cohen's character. i'm sure he thrilled donald trump with his testimony last week in front of the house committee. but in a courthouse that is not the tone and the demeanor. i mean, we talk all the time about how judge merchan is a very soft-spoken judge. he does not want people. he does not raise his voice and the general conduct of council, prosecution and defense is even toned and measured, even when they are making objections. so for something like that to unfold in this courthouse, it's a sideshow judge. >> i mean, what do you make the judge handled? well you know, the first comment would be just

another de the office for judge merchan. >> i mean, i can't even imagine i would levitate out of my seat if i had a witness who is a lawyer, an officer of the court? and knows better than the talk over me and give me the eye when he sitting there, i think he handled it perfectly to warn him that he was going to hold them in contempt the greater question is from a tactical standpoint, why they call this witness and jurors tend, and i've said this before too. sort of cleave to the judge. the judges that are protector, the person who breeds them sends him off at the end of the day. they don't like when a judge gets walked on by a lawyer or in this case, a witness, it leaves a really bad sensation of bad taste in their mouth. and you know, to your point, about stealing from from trump that got washed over by this witness there was a moment and they took that moment away by calling this witness with all due respect,

your honor. and i don't mean to talk over you know, now, you know, on the defense attorney, i'm like ladies and gentlemen of the jury michael cohen admitted two grand larceny grand loss. a. admitted that to the prosecutors in the in within the statute limitations, but de hearing charges against him, he is so in their pocket there's indebted to him that they didn't even charge him with a very simple crime. he admitted to the crime. he admitted it to them it's an insult, arthur, i don't i don't disagree with you. >> that that's a moment in the case my question is, why you then you don't look is a counter narrative costello look, i wasn't in the courtroom. you guys were i don't know what that and i will tell you this, judge, when i defense attorney and i'm calling witnesses and now after i've walked, the jury is watch the judge, goh, question, answer, question, answer, question, answer. and now i go up and i ask the questions. objection. sustained. objection. sustained. objection. sustained. you know

what i looked at the jury ago. they want this hushed up. they want this hush stuff. they don't want you to know this wasn't how the jury was looking at let's talk about the substance of castellows testimony, and let's talk about costello. >> anybody remember the mla report? he's actually a big figure, maggie and i were just talking about this. he the exchanges between him and cohen are according to robert muller a dangling of a pardon from donald trump and he was allegedly the emissary from trump-world to cohen to dangle exactly. and that's what you're going to hear in the cross-examination tomorrow, too? add to this atmosphere of mafioso stinking corrupt relationship between donald trump and michael cohen. >> the wreck all castellows irish. so i know you talked around mafioso and a guy named costello for the record, is it i didn't like that. >> i am i'm a little sensitive

i meant i meant as presidency italian-american generic organized crime can i can i just make a point that arthur's point it is true. >> they called him because he tells a counter narrative and he tells a different version of a story than what michael cohen does with similar facts he tells a version which is actually it was michael cohen reaching out to me and there's a more extensive version. >> but that wasn't what look, and we the caveat we don't know what the jury thanks. >> and we need to say that over and over again, at least in the courtroom, that wasn't what came through because he was stepping on himself. it wasn't just the objections. he at one point, susan hoffinger prosecutor, who is doing the cross-examination of him, was asking a question and he spat out speed speaking to the mic, and the jurors to him looked at each other when he did that. so i don't i don't know how much is counter-narrative came through. i understand what you're saying. i think the client was very happy, but i think what the defendant is happy with and what the rest of his team is happy with. it's not always the same thing. >> that's all i'm saying. >> it's really one other point that i would just make in terms of what the judge said about how judge merchan i handled it.

i think there were sean has actually been bending over backwards to be fair to the defense. the defense cannot stand him and that's very clear in everything. i think that with a lot of things he has done, he has tried not to be in confrontation with donald trump how you justify kicking out the press and keeping in donald trump's supporters when you say clear the courtroom, i don't quite know how that one the judge was also even before costello took the stand, he expressed some concern for the defense that this was not a wise course of action. he basically was like, are you sure you want to go down this call to sack of this pressure campaign allegedly that michael cohen said he was subject to. he tried to warn them and they didn't listen then they put them on the stand anyway. we'll see what the result will be in the other moment that i noticed today was with the clip from cspan that there was an inability apparently to stipulate and then they stipulated later they thought better of it, which you'd get at sidebar and say, are you kidding me that you won't stipulate to this? >> and i understand it's a

death cage match. nobody wants to stipulate to anything at that point, but i'm not sure that that's a good tactic to do and maybe that's what the former president shook about michael cohen stealing from the trump organization. i mean, how important is that? >> well, i think it is it gives the defense the opportunity to say he's not just a liar, but he's a thief so you double up. it is important and it's going to come out and closing arguments and they'll lean heavily into it. i just don't know whether the jury doesn't have baked into the narrative already. this is a bad guy and they're not particularly surprised about from my perspective, i don't know that it's as severe as it was made out to be in the moment today i would agree with that because i mean, just being in the courtroom, i felt like there was a look little bit of a dichotomy between people who were in the room and outside of the room and i was an overflow but i was hearing the arguments as they were happening the gist

of the story was both bad for michael cohen and also bad for trump because at the end of the day, the story was essentially that trump that michael cohen got a company to pay for trump to do better in some stupid poll that no one cared about. >> and trump didn't want to pay the company and that michael cohen eventually gave them $20,000 in cash which and then took the money that the trump organization repaid him. bad for michael cohen, but also the sort of little between the lines part of it is that trump probably would not have paid them at all. >> how about this that doesn't make iri has been and we've covered it for four weeks. trump is so care for this money. he knows where every dollar goes he signs every check that tiffany frame $650 grand weight that went disappear he didn't know that agree with you on that and i think that i was surprised that the that the defense didn't actually doubled down on that

because you're totally right that it's not actually clear here whether trump knew michael cohen was actually paying that company and the defense never really went down that road to say, well, if trump is so careful, widen he know about this it is worth remembering. >> the prosecution did mention this in his direct testimony, so this was not a a hidden imam shell. the other thing is cooperating witnesses often do terrible things and they get passes all the time and isn't that right i just need to say this for my own peace of mind. >> if donald trump is sitting in that seat, if barack obama was sitting in that seat, or joe schmo was sitting in that seat? whoever it is, i don't get what party you remember. if i am the district attorney, the way i was raised in the law, you do not bring the very first case ever against the president in the united states under these facts and circumstances where your main witness is somewhat as flawed as michael cohen. if i brought this case

to joe highs that brooklyn da in 1990 andy five, he would've said already, we're not calling i also just do think yes, they did. >> that prosecutors did mention this. they didn't exactly signpost it, so it's still read like something as a surprise. and also the keith schiller texts last week that got introduced that were todd blanche's big sort of pseudo perry mason moment. i don't know why the prosecution didn't bring that out in the first place, too. there have been a number of missteps by the possible i mean, well, i don't completely they may indeed have missed it, but it's not because they didn't have them big, big mistake here. everyone. thank you. still to come tonight breaking news on the iranian helicopter that crashed sunday, killing that country's president and eight others. with us defense up jury is now saying and well, the latest from dr. and watson and fareed zakaria join us and what it means for ron in the world. and later comedian bill maher joins us, discuss his new book with this comedian said will shock you and the current state of america and its politics go back university of

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mountainous northwest part of the country, on sunday is death comes at a precarious moment in iran history, both domestically and internationally, cnn diamond watson has more iran in a state of mourning commemorating the shocking death of iranian president ebrahim raisi during the frantic hours when rescuers searched for the missing president. the most powerful figure in the iranian political system, supreme leader ayatollah, coming a0b0, declared the government stable and strong melodrama dear people, whether you are sitting here or we'll hear my speed to later, do not worry there will be no disruption in the country's work inside iran, highly polarized reactions to the sudden death of a leader around race the has been a face of repression in iran for a very long time. >> i'm not surprised that many will celebrate raisi was a regime hardliners sanctioned by

the us government for allegedly oversee digging deadly crackdowns on iranian protest movements. >> and the us and rights groups say, he took part in an alleged death commission that ordered the execution of thousands of political prisoners in 1988, which raisi has never responded to i see more continuity than change. regardless of what happens next according to the iranian constitution, the little-known vice president mohammad mokhber, has now become interim president, paving the way for elections to be held within 50 days. this is a system that has managed this kind of turmoil in the past. so in the short run, it can certainly manage a choppy waters. but in the longer run, it's a system that is ideologically bankrupt messages of condolence are pouring in from longtime allies like syria, as well as russia, which launches iranian shahid drones against cities in ukraine well,

not yet also publicly morning raisi's loss iranian-backed militant groups such as yemen's houthis hamas, and lebanon's hezbollah meanwhile, few tears likely to be shared by iran, sworn enemy, israel the two countries long simmering shadow war exploded into direct for tat long-range strikes. just last month. >> i don't need to shift anything in the region or in terms of iran's relationship with its neighbors are, or neighboring power that's because most of the power in iran, leinz, with supreme leader ali khamenei, who's still in power and he's the one who is calling all the shots how the islamic republic deals with his deadly crash may set the stage for a much bigger future challenge. the question of succession for ayatollah khamenei, e. >> the country's 85 year-old supreme leader ivan watson cnn we should know the new york

times and the washington post reporting tonight that iranian state media saying that the helicopter crash resulted from a technical failure under a former top iranian official who earlier said us sanctions were to blame earlier today, the white house was quick to undercut or any suggestion and had a role in the crash the united states had no part to play in that crash. and so that's, that's a fact plain and simple. >> let's seen as fareed zakaria joins us now how important, i mean, how significant is this it is actually pretty significant because there are two things going on. >> iran and israel have been engaging in a fairly dangerous for tat, if you remember, april 1, israel kills and iranian general official of sorts two weeks later, iran launches 300 missiles and drones at this row, then israel does something very moderate and response just essentially took out one radon is fine. so that's the international context and the domestic one is i haven't

mentioned is the how many the supreme leader is at years old racy was seen as the odds-on successor, the guide, the president who died the only other person people are talking about is how many son, much taba that would be very, very unusual. the remember this is a regime that came into power because it believed, did not believe in the dynastic succession that the sharp the iran represented for it to become its own way. a dynasty that would be turmoil, i think so. >> what would i mean, what's going to happen? >> well, first, company has to die. he's 85 years old, has been ruling forever. >> but there will begin. you're going to start getting the factional politics his son and it's going to make a bid for it. his son much sharper has never held any office in an inner run before, so it would be a very unusual move. he is untested, but it's a black box, but the only the only two people who are being discussed, or raisi, the president who just died. and come any sun,

how much power does an iranian president? it has a pair to the supreme leader. i mean, how, how do you, the supreme leader set strategy, the, the, the president can execute that strategy. he can't eat. so it's almost like he's the secretary of state to the press. he doesn't but it's significant racy the boat, the guys who who died, i had them both on my program they are real hardliners. >> there was a power struggle in iran between somewhat more moderate and more hardline factions. but when trump pulled out of the iran deal, all that happened, the moderates lost out completely. this is now a hardline country verging on a kind of military dictatorship. everybody all your options are shades of hardliners and have the demonstrations largely. i mean, they've been effectively crushed, right? this regime came to power through revolution. >> it knows how to stay in power and not have a revolution over unseated. it's a very clever mixture of lots of

repression a certain number at a patronage, escape valves here and there things like these elections. yeah, it seems that was a heroic movement. but ultimately, it's very tough when the regime is willing to use brute force on a massive scale, frigidaria. thank you so much. appreciate it we're nauta, ukraine where heavy fighting continues? >> he says russia tries to advance in the eastern kharkiv region, rushes trying to change the shape of the battlefield is there's billions in new us aid begin to arrive last week, the pentagon said the first installments included air defense artillery rounds, armored vehicles, and anti-tank weapons. nick paton walsh has more on what the battle looks like right now from the front lines dusk begins a race to hide before dark this drone units first night in a new location twilight a tiny window

when perhaps you can set up without the russian drones that are always, always above seeing you as clearly like so much in this fast changing war, their task was unimaginable when moscow invaded the target is on the horizon. russia itself, into which they fly and plant minds on key roads they wait for dark those lights twinkling over there on the horizon that belgorod, russia how close? they're operating towards russian mainland. putin's latest offensive towards kharkiv has made the fight personal for artyom is parents live about a five-minute drive away and fighting for his literal home is unsettling alloantigen let's i wanted know why but bachman now that

how long? >> it passes now what it's dark, then must hurry we're going russian drones have thermal cameras. >> they hear another, you have all right let's battles raging nearby may help them goh unnoticed they resume any

strike could also ignite the two minds. they're fitting that i hear another drone a verbal. such an escalation over two years into the war to now see ukrainians flying drones of explosive straight into russia in sayyed sasha watches it cross the border, most recorded on to hoarder is awesome when they're business communication last, remarkably, when russian jamming kicks in, the drone

keeps going primary changed colon, and they're able to pick the signal up again deeper inside russia they spoke the target road. they will mind dropped both payloads and head back a gps problem means that drone crashed lands, but they have a spare. they wants elsewhere managed 24 sorties in one night but they have to be spotted only once. and these shells may not pass overhead we leave quick lights off at first to avoid drones road littered with anti-tank defenses not laid out in time to hinder russia's latest advance. >> and now they have only courage and ingenuity to hold bag for dark nick cow is morale among the soldiers right now as the russian attacks on kharkiv

have increased i think it's fair to say a group like that, we're with were pretty boys by the task they're given feeling they can actually take the fight as it were back into russia to russia. something we didn't even know indeed happen that they were laying mines to interrupt the ability of russia to get across its own borders. but i also think in other units, we've been talking to around this area, it isn't particularly great. i think there is a sense of disconcerting that has not been adequate fortification put in place in the northern border to hold that russian offensive that took place about a week ago. >> back. >> and also that we're going to see a slow arrival potentially of western aid into people's hands to give them the upper hand, the staggering thing anderson, those to see how drones have completely changed daily life on the front line, pretty much every unit we've been with since we've been here in the last week at some point, we've been told to to run for cover, to get away

from the visibility of russian drones flying overhead. sometimes they simply don't even know who the drone belongs to when it hovers above them. >> and it's most likely russians trying to spot targets for the intensive airstrike tszuj halftime bonds, or superior artillery. >> they've got more ammunition currently than the ukrainians to bring them to bear on those positions. so it does appear, yes. in recent days that russia does violence may have slowed their certainly not making huge strides. deeper into ukraine that perhaps they thought they might be able to. but ultimately it is an uphill task only and it's one that may get tougher in the weeks ahead because at this step age, there are thoughts russia may stop probing and other parts around the front line rather than necessarily focusing on the areas it's already hit here north of kharkiv anissa behind me, just we've heard explosions overnight, but it's desolate here. utterly silent, lights off, harkey, bracing frankly, for any potential russian

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it's basically the your commentaries from the last 20 years. yes. we edited and kind of really exact match. >> i wanted to people kept saying to me he's editorials you do at the end of the show and it is what i worked the hardest on there. >> i mean, they really hold up, they really do. >> i appreciate you saying that, but it is true. i went through them look, not all of them do or did, and that's why i spent all those months when we were on strike going through all of them pick the creme dela crown reef. >> i got to say i was skeptical when i hear is like, oh 20 years and stuff. >> yeah, it's really it's when you're dealing, when you have 20 years of stuff, you can be very choosy and just take a real great stuff. >> and put it together. i put it in chapters have made it make sense by topic. and it is kind of like an encyclopedia of every gosh darn good thing i ever said, trump seems to hate you get not blame him. >> i'm i'm you early on. he stood me in 2013. yeah, it's about the aranda tag thing which is a ridiculous law.

would people think it was some you said something like, well, they think it's a defamation. it was not a defamation lawsuit. it was way stupid than that. and my go cohen was the one who delivered the letter, but i mean, he was offering obama 5 million no. >> no. actually, to produce his college records because he's a racist and he thinks it's suspicious of black man went to college apparently. >> okay so i offered him $5 million if he could prove he was not the son of an orangutan because we showed the picture of an orange hair to rank attack and the coloring is exactly it does look like they're related, but of course they couldn't be. but he came into court and demanded the $5 million because he produced his birth certificate proving he was not in fact, and michael cohen is the one who delivered well, he wasn't a lawyer on the left there, but i mean, the letter is hysterical. i mean, my client is not this like really can you believe that this is the seems like it's going to be the only trial that will go before the election. >> well, i've been moaning and

railing about that on my show because i tore merrick garland a new one a couple of weeks ago because i think the democrats blue it as they always do with this kind of stuff because they've had for years what was all the delay about what why are we coming to the end? of course, they're going to try to run out the clock and they did. and so if this is the only one, the one that's the one they probably shouldn't have brought anyway, or if they did, it it was really a election violation election law violation trial that should have been tried nationally on a federal level. and it wound up to be falsifying business records on the state level so it's already in the wrong court and why didn't garland bring this earlier federally or why aren't any of these being wrapped up in four years? it's just so ridiculously write in the book about how you did this documentary, religious and that you'd say in the book that atheists often come up to you

and say that they've become atheist after seeing this, but that no one, no supporter of trump comes up to, you know, has ever come up. to you and said i'm no longer i'm off the trump train because of what you said or vice versa i cannot change people's. >> this is why i really feel like one of the themes of the book is add in my show all the time. i'm we're saying, you can hate trump, you can't hate everybody who likes him. it's half the country. okay. and i mean, look, no one was hard to run trump or will be harder on trump. and i think i was out front on predicting he was not going to leave office but you can't change people's minds like that. sometimes they just like a guy they also concede that there are so much, so much goofy and is also on the left that i do understand why people go. yet trump is crazy and we don't really like him, but you know what, what you're selling scares me even more. well, what's and that's what people i think have to understand is

to see both those sides. >> what's entering into you are very much and you've talked about this on your show journey. you call itself in n14 me, and you'll see yourself as in the middle but it's because the right quotes you when you say stuff that anti-war, okay courts. and the left? yes decries you and then the left likes you when you say something bad about trump this is one of our big problems is that we're all in our bubbles. we are all in our media bubbles. and so many people just want to hear coming back to them what they already believe in an echo chamber. >> most america is in the center. but you don't see that in the media, right? >> i mean, absolutely pertains to this network this network is trying to establish. now, i think again, that we are the center where you can be on either side. and of course that was very hard to maintain during trump's presidency because he does things that are so out of the realm. they are not normal and so when you criticize them, you sound like you're on the left it's a

very hard thing to find, but that's what i am always trying to find that place. and it's not that we're ever going to be agreeing on things. it just that we can't hate each other. i am tired of the hate. i don't want to hate half this country and i don't hate me for this country. >> we're going to take a quick break lot more with bill maher in a moment. >> some people just know that the best rate for you is a rate based on you with all state because there's a right way and the speed limit definitely isn't 700 billion miles per hour. so why would you pay a weight based on hearable boss with a terrible save save with dr. wise and get a rate based on you you're in good hands with allstate take a pea sized amount apply it like a lotion pits under boob stifled, about cracks, feet there's

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look back in the 70s, america was very polarized. there was political bombings. so i don't know if it's the same level or just a different form well, i think the difference is well, fox news came along in the 90s that changed everything that msnbc obviously became a mirror of that in a way. >> i mean, i think they're much more realistic about what they talk about now usually agree with them more, but same thing is that you're, you're only you're only giving one side of the story what frustrates me the most about the media is that whatever i hear i don't fully trust, it's not that i don't believe what you're saying but i don't think you're giving me the whole story before if we go even further back than that, i think even before social media people just did not use to talk about politics 24/7 to everyone they ever met first of all, you earn in touch with everyone you ever bet, but you aren't on facebook then so facebook became a place where you're arguing with your eighth grade

lab partner. >> covert. but ivermectin or something, just so everybody's ginned up all the time. and so there's this level of hate. i mean, that you are quoting from that last chapter, which is called divorce. and there are lots of people who talk about this divorce. america should get a divorce or maybe we should separate it different states. this first, let's not possible. second, votes not desirable. our strength was always, i thought that are diversity that we are different. >> and i'm always preaching to people that everyone's like you get over yourself. >> people grow up in different parts of the country with very different values. and you can't own them are destroy them and they're not going anywhere then itself deporting, you can win every election, half the country, the losers so going to be here and they can't have them see things were always see anything about each other. >> it does seem like the many folks not i don't know if it's

many, but certainly the loudest folks who get into congress run on. not necessarily to make deals and to actually get stuff done. it's to own the land obs or own the trump eons and it's not necessarily about any kind of moderation is a nasty word, any kind, right? making an emmy will deal. >> i mean, to me, you're presenting more of a false equivalency on this issue than i would the democrats in congress on a certainly don't agree with all of them. and there are some that are way out there. once any names the squad that i don't agree with a lot of stuff but they're generally still a same party of our type of government are parliament, if you will, the republican party's unrecognizable, especially the congress people, right? they're just there to do performance nonsense. they're there to like burnish their credentials to get a show on fox news or the border deal

and people like marjorie taylor greene and just real mental midgets that who they are not interested in legislation, they don't know how it works, but really interested in an the country. they are just interested, as you said, in owning the libs, making liberals cry, they're tears and getting revenge and also their cultish, their natural born cultish. i was saying this on my show friday night and somebody objected, but it's true. i'm sorry. the old line was always democrats fall in love. republicans fall in line and they always said they only they fall in line behind their candidate. and now they found it a candidate who is a cult leader. so that quality of falling in line very dangerous now, because it's sort of in their nature. >> well, i mean, you pointed this out the other day. i was obsessed with this the other day in court, and i saw it on your show you have to dress identical now to trump. i mean, that's just weirdest thing to me. it's just the most clear the clearest representation of just the ridiculousness they're

all wearing these red ties. i mean, there was a shot outside the courtroom are literally they're all wearing the same thing. >> always a good sign when the right-wing party starts wearing a uniform that's like i have been using this phrase, slow moving coup since before trump was elected the first time before he even got elected, i said this is a slow goo, and this is just, i watch these dominos fall one-by-one. >> the signs of a country that is moving into a different realm. and it's happened in many other countries, famously, rome was a republic and then it was a dictatorship under julius caesar. and i see this american caesar slowly taking us down this road. that's the first thing i thought when i saw the red tie and the same they're wearing the trump uniform. that this is a another rubicon we're crossing. >> bill maher cancellations on the book. the book is convenience said will shock you it is out now coming up next,

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only 24, 95 each rafael roma, the georgia state capitol in atlanta this cnn finally tonight, a good friend of mine and many others here at scene and joey pin taro died recently. it was sudden and it was shocking. and for all of us who knew him and loved him, it is still hard to believe joey pin tara was larger than life. outrageously talented, a rachis lee funny and frank. he spoke up and spoke out often and often loudly she was a little more low rent than i thought she'd be. >> like, if somebody york's should be from queens what are i'm nothing going to say

she's lovely lady joey was my assistant my right hand for more than a dozen years at cnn and he was great at it but working with me, that was just his side hustle as his friend monica lynch said recently, joey had a lot of hustle and his bustle. >> joey was all about music. that's him in 1982 in the mail room at tommy boy records. he started their packing lps and ended up producing them he played a huge role in the latin freestyle movement and it helped a lot of musicians make hits a few years ago, he started his own label fly groove, and was making new music right up until the end joey got knocked down more than once in his life, but he always got up and always moved forward in her poem, summer de mary oliver, ask, what is it you plan to do with your one wild and precious life? well joey pin taro did a lot with his and he touched a lot of people