to change that. it's going to it's a new initiative called nfl source. it'll be a centralized website where businesses can go and learn about how they can work with the nfl. it's a way to increase access to these money-making events at this centralized website, there'll be one set of standards and procedures for how teams deal with procurement, how they, how they deal with selecting people to supply goods and services. there's even a list on this new website that says exactly what sort of services and goods the nfl is looking for. and i should say that there may be some people who are who may be against this, this sort of dei, initiative trying to make this change. but the nfl says they remain committed to this. they think it's good business and they say they want to lead in this area. they want to set the benchmark across the sports industry, but eventually across all companies to show that they're there they are paying attention to the need to expand opportunity here i think jones. >> thank you so much for that

report. thank you so much for being with us this afternoon, jessica. thanks for having me sitting in the chair, come back tomorrow. you do the same but don't go anywhere because the leader, jake tapper starts right now cnn breaking news welcome to the lean. i'm jake tapper and we were falling breaking news out of new york. of course, we're day and donald trump's hush money trial. the defense rested right now in court, there's a meeting to determine what the judge will tell the jury next week before the jury begins debilitating the deliberating. what will no doubt be a monumental verdict one way or the other in the very first ever criminal trial of a former president trump himself is at this court meeting. and we'll bring it you all the updates coming up, but leading this, our israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu joins us live from jerusalem a day after the historic decision by the international criminal court in the hague to seek arrest warrants, not only for the three top leaders of the terrorist group, hamas, but for prime minister netanyahu and his defense minister yoav gallant for what the top icc

prosecutor calls war crimes in gaza, according to the icc, the charges against netanyahu include causing extermination, causing starvation as a method of warfare, including the denial of humanitarian relief and supplies. and deliberately targeting civilians in conflict. and israeli prime minister netanyahu joins us it's right now. prime minister netanyahu, thank you so much for joining us. the central part of the icc's charges against you and golan is, quote, starvation of civilians as a method of warfare. now i know that israel repeatedly claims that enough aid is getting in and there is not purposeful starvation at those claiming otherwise or misinformed or lying. is israel going to send a delegation to the hague to present any evidence to defend itself i think these charges are exactly as president biden called them. there are rages there beyond outrageous. this is a rogue prosecutor that is put false charges and created false symmetries that are both

dangerous and false. and the first ball symmetry is he equates the democratically elected leaders of israel with the terrorists, tyrants of hamas. that's like saying that, well, i'm issuing arrest warrants for fdr churchill, but also for hitler or i'm issuing arrest warrants for george bush george w bush, but also for been lauded. that's absurd secondly, the charges are completely false. let's take this charge of starvation. >> we've put in 500,000 tons of trucks of food and medicine for this population. >> we've taken 20,000 trucks. we've paid roads to put those trucks in. we've opened border crossings that hamas close down. i've had airdrops that a facilitated sea routes, supplies. i mean, the whole thing is absurd you should know this. i mean, the prices of food in gaza has dropped by 80%. the markets don't lie

they talk about 23, i think are 30 cases of malnutrition population of 2 million. okay. the united states in 2022 had 20,000 deaths of malnutrition. that's three times more than in gaza. this is completely false. it's the kind of slander that has been leveled at the jewish people for ages and it's renewed now against the jewish state. it was false then it's false now. but one thing this prosecutor, this rogue prosecutor, didn't even bother to come here he said he'd come here, check the facts. he didn't check the facts. you just went out and demonize the jewish state and he's taking the icc down the route of the general assembly that passes infinite resolutions flat earth resolutions against israel, or the human rights council that used to have a reputation that is completely blown because half the resolutions are against but against iran, not against north korea, not against syria. it's a same thing it's outrageous and false, dangerous because it endangers every democracy.

>> we should note though, it's not just the icc expressing concerns about the lack of humanitarian aid getting into gaza. president biden and his administration and their official it's not to mention european allies of israel and their officials. they've all been making this case for month that israel is not letting enough aid in. so when president biden expresses concern about you not letting enough aid in, is he wrong? >> well, no, we had the same concerns we were trying to get the aid a1n. we've got the aid a1 and hamas was looting the aid. that's what was happening. they were taking it for themselves or extorting the population. we were letting the a1 from the start and look, i've been this was my directive from day one. the day one thing was we have to provide we comport with international law. we comport with the rules of war. we have to get those trucks and we're getting hundreds of trucks every day in and that's been an aspect of our conducting, conduct of war because we tried to get civilians out of harm's way. we've done things that no

country, no army has done in history. it's not me saying that is general portray saying that the head of the urban warfare at west point, colonel john spencer says israel's gone out of its way, both in humanitarian aid and getting civilians out of harm's way with millions of text messages the millions of phone calls and leaflets that we've been dropping, giving up the element of surprise, israel as given here, a bum rap, it's i think it's dangerous because basically it's the first democracy that is a big taken to the dark when it is doing exactly what democracy should be doing. an exemplary way, i think it will danger all other democracies, israel maybe first your next britain is next others are next to the second thing that is dangerous about this, jake is i think this fans, the fires of anti-semitism that are raging on american campuses and throughout western capitals. there are pouring gas. he just poured gasoline on it. this rogue process security, cannes, because people initially will think this is serious. they think the icc, this is a

serious thing. it stopped. >> well, it's a travesty of justice and it's a pack of lies. let me ask you, because what hamas did on october 7, just to make this clear, what hamas did is important as is the refusal to return the hostages a porn. but whether or not it was israel's intend tens of thousands of innocent palestinians, including countless children, have been killed. aid named by the idf in your war against hamas. is there anything you and the idf could have done any differently too? boyd? all the loss of innocent lives in gaza first of all, every civilian casualty is a tragedy. >> every child lost or every woman laws are innocent person lost is a tragedy. but for hamas, it's a strategy so, while we go out of our way to get them out of harm's way. hamas goes out of its way to keep them in harm's way, shooting at them if they tried to leave the battle zones. but many of left thankfully, i can

say that now the ratio, because of our actions, the ratio of civilians to combatants killed is the lowest in the history of urban war. porphyrin, certainly dense urban warfare like this. it's about one-to-one. there are about 14,000 casualties of 50, 501415000 terrorist skilled and an equal amount of civilians that were unfortunately killed because that's what happens. but in other arenas in faloo job with a handful of terrorists, 3,000, 4,000 compared to 35,000 in gaza. the ratio was much bigger than that. the same thing in muscle. so we've gone out of our way to stop it and let me tell you, i think that the numbers are also inflated. the un the un organizations that are dominated by hamas in gaza is giving false information as is hamas itself and then people believed these numbers. the other day they came and said, well, you know, it's about 35,000 who are killed, but 10,000 of those we set a women and children. now we can't say

that. we don't know who they are, whatever the number is two man, meantime, the light circles well, look, yes, one is too many, but the reason they're there, the reason we have civilian casualties at all is because hamas is preventing them from leaving i'm happy to say that in the rafah operation that we've conducted, 1 million people actually left people said, well, they're million people 1 million point to in gaza where they're going to go, they're going to be trapped. well, 1,950,000 have already left. there were very few civilian casualties because we're doing everything to get them out. this is our policy. it's humanitarian, it's responsible. we comport with the laws of war and were the ones taken to the doc and it doesn't give any doesn't give any solace that are also taking these killers of hamas, these murderers and putting them in the dark. as i said, hitters in the dark. but so as fdr and so his eyes and absurd after seven months of unity for your wartime government, there seems a lot of disagreement now about

your plans for gaza or lack thereof. after a major military operations in gaza is over, benny gantz wants a plan, or he says he's going to leave your government, your defense minister, yoav golan says, you don't have a plan. he's basically accusing you of trying to lay the groundwork for an occupation either civilian or military in gaza in the future, are you denying that the plan is for an occupation of gaza or are you taking it off the table now i have a very clear plan. >> i think the first thing the day after hamas, jake is the day after hamas, we have to get rid of hamas. otherwise, there's no future for gaza. no future for peace and it'll be a tremendous victory for, not only for hamas, but for the iran terror acts as the backseat and organizes hizballah, the houthis, and all these other sundry terrorist organizations so i think we have to defeat hamas and we will defeat hamas rafah, the last stronghold of hamas terrorists battalions will defeat them. that ends the, the

intense part of the fighting but once hamas is defeated, what we have to do is have sustained the demilitarization of gaza. and yes, on this, i think the only force that can prevent the resurgence of terrorism for the foreseeable future residual. at the same time, we want i1, a civilian administration that is run by gazans who are neither hamas nor committed to are taking it off the table or thing that we need to do is not i'm putting it on the table on the contrary, that's not what i'm saying. >> you're taking off an israeli occupation because i've gaza, you're taking off the table and israeli, if you mean if you mean resettling if you mean resettling gaza yeah. it was never in the cards and i said so openly in some of my constituents are not happy about it, but that's my position. the third thing that i would i would do is have a reconstruction of gaza if possible, done by the moderate arab states and the international community that's demilitarization. civilian administration by local gazans who are not committed to

israel's destruction and no response. where we reconstruction that i think is a realistic plan. and i've said so, look, if some people are not happy with it, maybe they want to put in the palestinian authority that is still the teachers. it's children to seek the destruction of visual pays terrorists. the more terrorists, the more jews they killed, the more they pay. a support services. that's not my position. i want a different future for israelis and palestinians alike affect the future of peace in the middle east. >> two more questions for you, sir, because i know your time is limited three if people familiar with the ceasefire discussions that fell through earlier this month, tell are reporter alex marquardt, that egyptian intelligence quietly changed the terms that israel had already agreed to in order to get hamas on board. does this raise concerns for you about egypt being involved moving forward? >> look, i think we have a goal which is not only to defeat

hamas, but also to release the hostages my government has been able to secure the release of 124 hostages. so far we're committed to get the wrist. hamas, unfortunately, it has been hunkering, down on a demand that is simple. they say, well, we can release the rest of the hostages, maybe but in order to do that, you have to get out of gaza, end the war and allows basically to regroup and reconquer gaza. and they vowed to commit the october 7 massacre. this horror of beheadings and raping a women, beheading women after the rape them, the burning of babies, the slaughter of the innocent, the taking of hostages. we'll do that again and again, again. so that's something i won't agree to and i hope egypt understands that we can agree to something like that. that's not something that we can countenance. another, the people of israel, by the way, the overwhelming majority of israelis support this policy. and i can tell you that the other day, by the way,

yesterday, we had a resolution in the knesset where 106 out of 120 knesset members supported a resolution that says you cannot accept the icc statement, you cannot accept it. we reject it. it's a farce and we have to stand up and i can tell you, i don't remember that israelis i don't remember the knesset agreeing 106 knesset members out of 120 on anything by mr. prime minister, you say that the majority, the american people are with you on this plan but a poll from the israel democracy institute from this month showed a majority of israelis, 56% say getting the hostages back home should be a higher priority than military cree action in rafah. don't you just fundamentally disagree with the majority of the israeli people well, i've seen other numbers, but i take a different thing. >> i don't say this is more important. that is more important. i say both of them are important and in fact, the military action that we take against hamas is in fact the

way to get these hostages, because without military pressure, basically, without squeezing them, hamas is not going to give up anything that's the reason they gave up the first half of the hostages. and that's the reason they'll give up the second half. so i don't see i see them as complementary and not contradictory goals. and i intend to fulfill both of them before you go, sir, we should know. well, we appreciate your talking to us. according to the independent is really midi monitor the 70,000 you've done about two dozen interviews since october 7, but all of them in english and all the outset outlets outside israel. i don't want to begrudge that. i appreciate you doing an interview with us, but why are you? you're not speaking with israeli journalists the way you are with me that's the injunctions reporting of some of a lot of the israeli media. >> so i can tell you what they're not telling you is i've done i don't know if it's two dozen or are 20 or 15 press conferences with israeli

media, they can ask anything they want and they do. and i just met israeli report the other day in rafah. in fact, three days ago, and they asked me all the questions they want so that's simply not true. i speak to them and i speak to you and i welcome the opportunity to tell the truth and dispel the allies in both, in both the mediums israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, thank you so much for your time. >> appreciate it thank you let's get some reaction to what we just heard from the prime minister. plus catch you up on the key arguments happening right now in the new york hush money cover-up case, we're also just getting in some brand new details on another criminal case against trump, the federal classified documents case. we're going to squeeze in a very quick break. we'll be right back with all that new stuff. >> assignment with potty cornish. listen wherever you get your podcasts saving for retirement was tough enough and navigating markets can be challenging at times.

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israeli military or government though far-right members of his cabinet, r&d, calling for it, joining us now to help digest former deputy director of national intelligence and cnn, national security analyst beth san or bet that what was your biggest takeaway from the interview? i think the idea is for me is how he's arguing this and i feel like he's arguing it in the way i wouldn't argue it first. absolutely. on not equivocating what hamas did and what israel is doing. totally fair. but i don't really feel like he's arguing it on the merits of the case. there are lots of things about the lack of merits of this case that can be argued. and instead, he's kinda doubling down on all the things that israel has done to provide food and all. there's no starvation, nothing to see here in gaza. but for all of us watching the tv i think you can say, okay, i don't think this

rises to war crimes, but i feel like something isn't going well in gaza regarding human rights and the state department report that you referred to kinda says that so why not think you would be more credible if he acknowledged that? look, we had to make for example, look, we had to do security checks to make sure that these trucks didn't have weapons and that took a long unfortunately, that took a long time or whatever. i'm just but some sort of acknowledgment of the reality yes. >> i think that this kind of i feel like we're looking at we're in an alternative universe. when i listened to him. and that doesn't mean i think that the icc is right, but here we are again where we're kind of arguing about things that you don't like the realities don't comport all we have to do is watch our own tv and see that that doesn't feel right so there's obviously a lot of division in his war cabinet right now with both golan and gantz saying there's

no plan for the day after the so-called day after when the mate major military operations come through here he presented a plan. >> it was a very kind of, i don't want to i don't want to say glib, but it was a four-point plan with not a lot of detail saying that you want the major moderate arab nations to come in and help out is not the same thing as saying, we have secured commitments from jordan and saudi arabia and the uae. and you know what i mean? so it's not a plan that's not a plant that's it's like a statement of theory that's like, you know, what china's says, is there peace plan for, for russia, ukraine? it's not a plant. it's a statement and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff just said yesterday publicly that israel isn't conducting this war in a way that solves the problem hello that's why they keep having to go back in and reef fight battles is because there's no one on the ground. now, in order to manage what he's said hamas taking over aid shipments, true? >> right. all of this is true,

but you don't actually have a plan and you're not doing something to set up some sort of authority on the ground. >> now, yeah. then it you're gonna be in an endless cycle. i mean, we're, we're on the gerbil wheel healer here and no one is. i don't know when we get off. >> well, and it's not just americans saying that its members of his own wartime cabinet exactly is, which is thought to be troubling for him. >> it should be, but all of a sudden we have one issue that everyone agrees on for the first time in since the beginning of this war. and that is that the icc process of moving towards these arrests is absolutely unwarranted and everybody agrees on this. so this is this is a gift to netanyahu. i remember we were here at the very beginning of this war and you asked me about netanyahu and you said, well, what do you think is prospects

are and i said fed glibly dead man walking, right? and now i don't feel that way at all. i feel like this is giving netanyahu and other lease on life even if gantz ends up pulling out of the war cabinet he's not his government's not going to fall. so i think that we are in a very different place that's sander thanks so much. >> appreciate it. >> the debate over jury instructions is happening right now in that courtroom. >> 39 in the hush money cover-up trial plus brand new details in another criminal case involving trump and stunning images coming in from iowa year according iowa, that southwest of the moyne, a reported tornado on the ground. take a look at that. >> well, it's breaking right now to keep it here for updates on this wednesday would be what it would be called. >> we are prover decade. we've been perfecting the perfect length fifth and feel insurance

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and they're all coming? those who are still with us, yes. grandpa! what's this? your wings. light 'em up! gentlemen, it's a beautiful... ...day to fly. i'm natasha bertrand at the pentagon. and this is cnn what, will be the last words to the jury before those 12 men and women decide the fate of donald trump in the hush money cover-up trial. that's what the prosecution and defense are debating in a meeting with the judge, right now, donald trump is there. we expect them to

speak publicly once the meeting's over both sides. i have rested their cases, which means all that is left is closing arguments were told that will be in one week, tuesday, then on wednesday a week from tomorrow, deliberations are expected to begin after the jury gives the judge gives the jury instructions. so let's bring in the legal panel. so let me start with you. the defense wants the judge to add a jury instruction on how they should consider testimony about reactions to moments like the access hollywood tape specifically trump's team says hope hicks is testimony regarding her own reaction to it could be confusing to the jury if they don't understand it's meant to demonstrate the impact of trauma on trump's state of mind. judge merchan said he would think about it, but he's inclined to sayyed with prosecutors saying the evidence is likely clear enough. >> first of all, i don't know what any of that means for translate it to english from lawyer 0s and what do you think about it? well, it's similar to the issue that came up the other day. where judge merchan,

i believe said you consider mr. cohen's plea in the federal case as to his character and credibility, you're not to hold it against anyone else. and you limit what the jury is supposed to focus more. but let's say if i say to you jake seven, think of a number between one and ten. i mean, you've got to think is seven. so it's hard when it's out there. >> the more important ruling i thought the judge made or said he was likely to make. >> is that if it's shown that the payment would have been made anyway then he was going to instruct the jury that that would not be election interference. so if he if i'm right about that if they would've paid off stormy daniels, even if you weren't running for like like he paid off the bogus doorman stories mcdougal if he was going to make the payment anyway, that it would not be election interference if if i'm getting this right, i mean, that would

be a huge concession for the fence. >> what what do you think about the case? like you've you've now heard everything except for the closing arguments you have struck me as somebody who has not been super wowed by the power of this prosecutor. tutorial presentation, right? >> i mean, from the beginning of the day that the indictment was announced, i think i was on with you and said i thought it was underwhelming. i think as they've gone through, i've always thought the most difficult part of this case for the prosecution to prove is that connection to any underlying crime that they have to show that donald trump was intending to violate my father words. >> they false after they falsified the records birds they've shown that those are false the fireball that potentially if it was only on its own, my understanding would be a misdemeanor. so then the issue getting to the felonies is whether or not there was some this underlying crime. and that i think has been the issue that the prosecutors arguably have not going to gotten two.

and i think the defense really could have had an argument for just closing their case after the prosecution not putting on these small number of witnesses and just saying the prosecution hasn't met the burden of their case and they haven't gotten there. and i think it pertained he said that's underlying crime that they haven't necessarily made the connection. >> can you disagree? i've got well, not so much on the fact apart, but that's why the jury instruction on this point is so critical and there's been a huge win for the prosecution on that, which is that the judge has says they don't. >> the jurors don't have to be unanimous as to which of the crimes and to prove the underlying crime. now it's possible the judge may du a special verdict, meaning checkbox, which of these crimes, tax, election fraud, federal election campaign finance. >> but the more broad that jury instruction is, which is the way that the judge is going, the easier it is for them to make that connection evidentiary, and leslie, judge merchan today told the jury not to talk about the case, not to research the case. he said, quote it might be tempting to

think now that both sides have rested, you can kind of let up a bit. but in fact, these instructions take on even greater significance how realistic do you think that is that people are not going to go home and hit google. they're not going to go home and see what kimmel or colbert are saying about this it is really attempting and there is research that shows that some jurors do that. but i think news flash, i think a lot of these jurors are going to take them next week to not think about this trial and spend some time on the regular lives and their family and their work and getting back to things. >> sure. but they go to the beach and somebody says, hey, marty's on the jury and like, you everybody, laughs and they talk about it. and that's not going to happen. well that does happen and i think that marty, by the way, that's not a real don't don't be hunting down parties. i made it up. sorry. >> that very well may happen. i think the jury is anonymous, so it's up to their family members. to keep their identity minute, new yorker, it true? true close lift crowd. that's true. that's true. that's

true. so it's going to be up to the jury to decide if they want to engage in that or not. but i think for the most part they're just going to want to stick their head in the sand and pretend it's not happening. >> it's going to happen some juror over this long week recess is going to be up at three in the morning. and when they get sick, a playing wordle and the crossword puzzle, they're just going to hit trump trial. i'll just look at one thing and then it's gonna go down a rabbit hole. de can avoid it. >> i'm just saying over burgers and bratt, somebody's going to have a couple of beers to act too much, but we'll see we'll say the jury has been exemplary so far true. i'm just acknowledging that as humans, it's your nature, it's that's what they've been wonderful. that's all i do think that thanks to one and all. appreciate it. all. law and justice lead are brand new court filing by special counsel jack smith and trump's classified documents case. it shows a team hired by trump attorneys found documents marked class divide in trump's bedroom. and this is after the fbi raided mar-a-lago in august 2022. remember this is the florida case for prosecutors alleged mr. trump took

classified documents from the white house and properly and stored them in non secure locations at mar-a-lago, including in bathrooms and ballrooms to which the public had access. cnn's evan perez joins me now from fort pierce, florida ahead of tomorrow's hearing in the case, evan, walk us through this new filing well, jake, this is a filing from judge beryl howell and she was ruling on a request by prosecutors to get information to get documents from evan corcoran, who is a former attorney attorney for the former president and what she did was she essentially she ruled that prosecutors had a right to get that information from him because it fell under the crime-fraud exception. >> what she found according to this document, which has just been on sale today, is that in sometime after december of 2022 in a search of mar-a-lago, the the people working for the former president and his legal team found a classified documents, something that was

mostly empty, a folder that read classified evening summary. this was found in the former president's bedroom. there were four additional documents that were found in an office there at mar-a-lago. and so this is part of the reason why, judge, decided that this cast doubt on the former president's claim that he had no idea via that they were classified documents being stored. all over mar-a-lago. she said that there was strong evidence that the former president intended to hide classified documents again, that's why she ruled that evan corcoran had to provide documents and testimony to the prosecution. now, what we know now jake is a tomorrow. we're going to have a hearing all-day hearing. part of it, looking at the issue that walt nauta, who is one of the co-defendants here, he's arguing that he was picked out for selective prosecution. and then in the afternoon we're going to hear additional motions on by the entire defense. i'm sorry, by the entire defense team saying

that the prosecution has not provided enough information as part of this case. a lot. another thing that we're waiting for jake is to hear from judge aileen aileen cannon when we might see this trial right now there is no indication that we're going to see this trial before november. and so we wait and see what she what she says tomorrow. >> alright. evan perez in fort pierce, florida. thanks so much. a former trump aide who is sitting behind bars. is talking to the press what former white house aide peter navarro predicts will happen if trump is re-elected. the report order who interviewed him? well join us next for over 25 years, love sack has been rewriting the rules of comfort. >> it's okay to change your style. >> get messy get immersed with loves. shaq. >> you make the rules with dry eye symptoms, keep kelvin bad, inflammation it might be to play over the counter wide

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contempt of congress after he defied the january 6 house select committee he's subpoena. he hopes to get out in time for julys republican national convention in an email interview with the new site semaphore navarro predicts a second trump term includes getting rid of the federal reserve chair altogether and starting mass immigrant deportations. millions of people, semaphores senior editor gina can on interview navarro in his with us now, gina, thanks so much for coming on lead. we appreciate it. explain why you think it's important to highlight navarro's insight as to what a second trump term might look like. >> well, he's obviously very influential because he did go to prison for the former president. he is still very much tied to the inner circle. he is regularly visited by people like don trump, junior he all visited him in prison? >> yes. just recently? just over one of these paths weekends than so i think if trump wins, he will have a prominent role. and so what he

says matters and he was obviously one of the big forces behind the chinese tariffs and a lot of others, protectionist policy the so it's important to hear them out, even though he is in prison. absolutely. so on navarro's prediction about federal reserve chair jerome powell, navarro says, quote, my guess is that this punk tilly's non economist will be gone in 100 days one way or the other. he then brings up in his interview with you possible replacements, former council of economic advisers chair kevin, has it former ceo cea chair tyler, good speed. >> when you talk with economic experts, what do they say about such a move? i mean, they are worried about what is going to happen to the fed traditionally that is a very independent agency. obviously needs to be to steer the economy without regard to politics and given how difficult the fight against inflation has been, who sits in that chair really matters. and

one of the things that wall street's really worried about is this move around the fed and whether politics could interfere with managing the american economy. >> but is he talking about getting rid of power or getting rid of the entire federal reserve well, it would be a bit difficult to get rid of the whole your because they are approved by the senate. there's a whole nomination process, of course would be difficult, but it's his goal to get rid of it all there are some people on the fed right now who have been more supportive of trump policies and have been critical of the current federal reserve. >> but certainly jay powell was in the hotseat even before all of this in trump's first-term, trump called him an enemy of the people, something that you don't traditionally here about a fed chair and so i think he will be a major target in another trump term. >> so the var also touted

trump's tough stance on china advocating for more tariffs on chinese products what do economists think about that? what kind of impact might that have on the economy economists have already talked about how the tariffs have affected inflation. >> that adds on to consume more prices. but honestly in this area, this is where trump and biden agree and they're trying to outdo each other on the terrorist trent biden just recently unveiled tariffs on chinese electric vehicles and various other products and trump then immediately said he would put 200% tariff on chinese products. so in this area, they're actually on the same page when it comes to the mass deportations, i heard senator marco rubio the other day speculate there might be 20 or 25 million undocumented immigrants in the country that the 15 million that people talk about, that's like ten, 15 years ago how serious are they about actually rounding up 2020, 5 million people many of

whom, whether or not we'd like it contribute a great deal to the economy, especially when it comes to agriculture and manufacturing how serious are they about all 2020, 5 million i think they are very serious and they will figure out ways to pull the levers of government to do that. >> but to your point about the economy, we already have more job openings and people to fill them. and so having these people removed could actually actually be a detriment to our economy so i do have to ask you about just the process of this all yes. >> because obviously, he's in prison. i didn't know that prisoners maybe he's at a low security one. i don't know. but you had access to the internet like i assume you reached out to him through a friend or a lawyer or whatever? tell me about interviewing him by via internet when he's in prison? yeah. no, it was through contact. he has the prison consultant who is in regular

touch with him, so he's the one who passed on the message to peter. i had so many questions that was actually difficult to do it over the phone and he actually he works in the law library. he's 74. and was given a more coveted job at one point, there was actually discussion about whether don junior would be the one to take handwritten responses from peter, get the enhanced hand them to don junior, and then get them transferred to me. he decided there were so many that he would actually type them out in email, which by the way is also where he's been wrapping up his book. that's coming out around. there were republican national convention. >> and how much do you think he's, he's still plugged into trump world. it sounds like a lot if he's still talking to dr. trump junior who's obviously a very prominent member of mac go world in terms of policy and planning, how much do you think he's still contributing ideas? >> i think he's contributing a lot. i mean, there's always a question about who has influenced in the trump world.

but obviously with his connections and his loyalty to the president, which he, which trump really values, i think puts them in and i'm pretty good spot. and if he gets out in time, he's actually hoping to speak at the republican national convention in july he could have participated. >> i mean, he could have honored the subpoena and just pleaded the fifth. he just he didn't, he didn't regret that. >> i don't think he regrets it. one bit now he's a martyr. he gets to show what he did for the president and hopefully, i think he's hoping that will pay off in a second term all right. here's the defendant himself, mr. trump after court today, genotype. thank you so much really really interesting stuff. let's listen to the former president after this big day in court you very much jonathan, generally just stay he thinks that this case is collapsing of its own way excuses a disgrace goh a

country to stay of new york never seen anything like it. >> steven calibrate, see it's an outrage and the district attorney brought this case the judge did not declare a mistrial respect even calibrate it says an outbreak. the district attorney brought this case and the judge did not clara mistrial and everybody's saying in one form or another and what they have senator jason, that the federal prosecutors at my old office of southern district of new york wouldn't take it the first place. they would not take a sudden initiative. turned down and the case that sidebands look at and wouldn't take it. and the case that break herself, look at in 2022 shut it down and this is what we've been wasting all this time allen, jersey i've observed

and participated in trials throughout the world i have seen justice and injustice and china, russia, ukraine, england, france, italy, israel as well as in nearly 40 or 50 states what are my 60 years as a lawyer and law professor? >> i have never seen the spectacle such as the one i observed sitting in the front row of the court hasn't ever seen anything like it these. weight lawyer, great legal scholar, using mc at the right anyone tells you otherwise they're not aware. let me just tell you that the white house is the person who whatever they the white trying this case, ureter was doing off the talking representative from the white house just recently this

is all about vitamin can't campaign. so he tried to injuries opponent they tried to hurt the opponent because they can't win and fair and square. it's a low fare. there are a lot of terms is a third world cup i'm trying to wake of care today such a dismissive said, do what's happening, drug country, country is going to have to buy looking at the front first enquire, you look at the person that argued their case, almost the entire case look at the person with did he come from unbelievable he came from biden and his biden? biden has any idea what the hell is happening but it's from the fashion circle in the oval office. they circle and resume who tested beautiful resident this makes staked out firing york campaign finance laws, extraordinary back in 2013 in

an overall argument, supreme court justice antonin scalia said this campaign in finance is so intricate that i can figure it out what is referred to is the fact that we had on ligo the number one expert on campaign finance who wasn't allowed to participate it wasn't allowed to participate they said he can't be a witness unless you want to talk about what's the definition of the law, you couldn't talk to him about it anything else? >> greg, here at this trial is now officially a sad authentic job it's a crime marriage. shannon bragg or the head clouds. >> it should be patently obvious that the leading republican candidate for president. on trial natural one it's done. what for who he is trump is that potential nemesis of the democrats, by the way

just got done code i may receive i'm reading a few now for the first time, i can look at open. >> i'm just giving you does everybody says break lows and so does mershid lows. the judge hate step of trump his take a look take a look take a look at where he comes from. >> any reliance on council i can't rely on the scott was canceled. i don't have any reliance on council might be the only one that doesn't every line that we have there's so many bad decisions. this got everything we asked for. >> we get enough. >> so he says biden despises bread blows had show

description of. and so the same who's taken it upon himself to serve up as a code prosecutor? >> this is from the greek greg, jarryd, very talented it's a persecution not a prosecution of any legitimacy bragg is a abuses position and spend tens of millions of dollars of taxpayer you some, many people from his and while caitlin thing mug kill that side never sounded thing in my life, nobody this abuse disposition, of powers attention, millions of dollars to denigrate and an electron to denigrate and electoral enemy. to benefit his opponents president joe biden, commonly known as crooked joe the de, a falsely asserts that

trump unlawfully tried to influence once the 2016 election. >> but it is bragg who is guilty of interfering in the 2024 election. >> they're doing it in 2024, just like in 2020 can you imagine with all of the wrong going for we found that, you know, existed. >> they jump in after me for election interference that's the classic of all. >> that's a classic tawfeeq sham democratic party prosecution of trump. >> maybe collapse but the process is to punishment as trump is held, political hostage two weeks in this proceeding in the middle of a presidential election is your trial as already compromised, election they're already cheating or the election with this. >> and you don't know what's happening because the judge or so biased. so corrupt he suffered up and he said that he never now these days, i'd

rather have that but they drove judge farce surpassed a great case for us. when you have a corrupt judge, lots of bad things happen katy tur as this is such an embarrassment. >> i'll be showing prosecution that i imagine the judge wouldn't grant the motion to dismiss the case. >> you can imagine there has been no evidence. there's no evidence and there's no crime. is no crime. >> everybody says, oh, primers and he showed the adapt label style doug and talk to are finding and these very democratic to understand. i'm reading it out for us that are finding the large plurality is or not, right americans perceive these indebtedness is politically motivated, should be a warning sign to the democrats he said number

that's shown john, you, i'm not sure there isn't going to be backfire on prosecution. having a judge who so aggressively on their side, he is so massively are their side, but he has to he estimated just to report yesterday, junk concha would guys starting with this lawfare strategy, wasn't a good strategy? and there's happening the inverse effect of democrats had hoped for. so the democrats are, they're going to take me out with of there and it's so bad at least i have a voice. i can talk to you. the press in many cases, the fake news. >> but even the fake news as

well as a blatant and appearance and it's totally unconstitutional. >> the american people see in this trial as a complete chapter so far they have because i'm lead 50 joe biden by law, they couldn't they can take me out with them and don't forget i'm like eight of them this is one and let this go into and we're doing very well in them so this was going on is not one person, the legal scholar that this is a matter. now i haven't previewed everything, but i can see none ones when, you have marked lived in likewise a phenomenon said a sham and discretion oh great legal scholars ending with dropped the many, many documents, many papers written by somebody respect but he's toughen his legit and you should insist hysterical. it's

gotten it's terrible. what's happening to our country? >> mark thesis wrote, likewise terrible what's happening it's an embarrassment it so said and i appreciate your listening but i just watched something over there. >> and you have to look at the man that they're talking. who's representing. he wasn't in the da's office he wasn't an encampment for one reason. and when they kept from the getting from washington, dc, the white house, the drg and he argued the case that means is biden that means is election interference by sweeping you are ductless or resident destroying up country with the voters and destroying our country with the worst, the worst inflation. who allow