word for blood flight. when i thought about it in those terms, is released me from this. i was like that's just how it works. you don't get anything for free and it is a blessing and it came with a wound and here i am, and i'm a lot wiser. i'm a lot calmer. and frankly, i appreciate everything more. it's such a cliche, but it actually did kind of work that way. it was kind of like taking antidepressants or something like, oh, i'm back here i am and i'm really alive now, especially. >> thank you so much that she younger the book is called in my time of dying, how i came face-to-face with the idea of an afterlife by sebastian, younger and the. book is available just now, starting today that's it for us. >> the news continues. i'll see you tomorrow. the source with kaitlan collins starts now straight from the source tonight, the moment of truth for donald trump is now just days away. >> hey both sides of rested their cases as a contentious new battle begins over what's a

jury will hear before the case is in their hands. i lead source was in court for every moment and we'll also speak live with michael cohen's attorney. and it was a moment that we could all hear for ourselves really, hours after trump left the door open two restrictions on birth control, he now says, he never said what he did. in fact, say, you can hear for yourself and moments we have new reporting tonight on a terrifying scene in the skies, a passenger is dead, many more injured when extreme turbulence strikes without a warning i'm kaitlin collins and this as the source donald trump's fate will soon be in the hands of 12 new yorkers. and with that, we will finally know whether the presumptive republican nominee, the former president, and the potential future president will be running as a convicted criminal. >> both sides and his hush money trial are now preparing

for a critical moment. >> the closing arguments after resting their cases but this being the trump trial, there's already a new battle underway and it's one that could play a huge role in what that verdict actually is. judge juan merchan reprimanded one of trump's attorneys today is the prosecution and the defense argued over what the judge is going to tell the jury where they locked themselves in a room and the rest of us wait for for verdict. at one point during those arguments this afternoon, justice merge, sean actually told trump's attorney to sit down and said, please don't. when he kept raising one of his points more on that with michael cohen's attorney in a moment. >> but the defense in the meantime has rested its case today after calling just two witnesses in total neither of them was named donald trump, despite how he said repeatedly that he wanted to testify. if you've been following are reporting here on the source, you knew that was actually likely never going to happen, though. >> trump did have plenty to say away from the witness stand outside the courtroom.

>> pretty quickly, restroom anywhere. the case i don't i'd like to sometimes it appeared something was on the former president's mind there. of course we know he had his eyes closed. they're all much of this trial whether it was sleeping or pretending like some of the testimony wasn't happening. it was widely reported on i was there, i witnessed it at times so did courtroom sketch artist and even just today as those arguments were going on, the cnn team in the courtroom reported that trump appeared to be dozing off a bit one point, his eyes closed with his chin on his chest and his mouth open we have the ultimate insiders here tonight, who i should note are wide awake people who have been in the room throughout this entire landmark trial file is it now moves into its final phase by lead source tonight is new york times senior political correspondent and cnn political analyst, maggie haberman and maggie, i mean, you have been in that room every single day as we went from david pecker to robert costello and the

fireworks that we saw late yesterday afternoon when he was on the stand today. i mean, what do you just make of what you've witnessed now that you're looking at all of it to the very first day that he fell asleep during jury selection and angered when you reported on that. so look, this trial has been long, it has been really long. it is not absurdly long, as not the longest trial and history, there has been a lot that has taken place and i think it is easy to lose track of everything that's taken place because david pecker was the first witness and he was seen pretty widely as an effective witness for the prosecution. he told a very compact story, which is what the prosecutors have been telling. hope hicks backed up parts of that story, madeleine westerhout backed up parts of that story, even as they said, things that the defense found helpful michael cohen and stormy daniels and robert costello are different stories and i don't think that the jurors thought that michael cohen was a member of the clergy and so i think that a lot of the commentary about how he performed has been based on this idea that he came in, seen

as, as pure and this all fell. however, he did, he a pretty rough couple of days, particularly yesterday when he acknowledged that he stole from donald trump, that i don't know how the jurors receive that robert costello, however, did come in as a former federal prosecutor and lawyer and member of the court and he had a very rough outline yesterday. he had a better performance today. if there isn't an acquittal or if there is a hung jury, then i think that the defense will point to the aggregate of those performances, stormy daniels michael cohen, and robert costello as basically just creating this air of who knows exactly what happened here and i don't know that that's how it's going to go. none of us knows how it's going to go. there is this this sort of constant drumbeat outside the courtroom of people shouldn't talk on both sides of this case. well, you know what's amazing about a courtroom is there's two sides definitionally. and so and we have no idea what is going to happen. but trump has, used it to reinforce campaign themes

that he's persecuted. he has brought in a failings of support porter's every day. he has rolled very heavy with these supporters. he has his indicted top legal advisor who shows up with him every day to court. i don't know how the jurors see those atmospherics where we may never know how the jurors ended up seeing this case because they may decide not to talk and i can understand for their sakes why they might not because there's real risk to that there's a lot of talk about a possible hung jury hung juries are actually not that frequent. it gets talked about so much that you'd think it happens all the time. it really doesn't, but it does happen slightly more on high-profile cases. >> one thing about the jury is it's been the same jury the entire time. no alternatives have been used yet. we don't know, but but it's remarkable. and it's interesting watching the jury and how they reacted to robert costello because we probably saw more reaction then it any other moment in the testimony, even when the stormy daniels moments were happening and today, you're you said he did better today, the borrower is pretty low given the courtroom had to be cleared

because of him yesterday, but there was there was a moment where so. the prosecutors were using his own emails against him, including the one where at the time he said to his partner, our issue is to get cohen on the right page without giving him the appearance that we are following instructions from giuliani or the president and the emails just are what they are as castello himself said repeatedly and some of these were very hard suggests there was an opposite contexts. i will say there were a couple of moments when susan susan hoffinger, the prosecutor interrupted him or cut him off when he was saying there's contexts. can i give it and i don't know how the jurors felt about that because if he had something else that he wanted to say, they might take it as the prosecutors are not being that fair to him. i mean, the basic challenge here for prosecutors there well, there are many challenges one is that they are telling a very neat, compact story, which is just sort of clear. this is what happened and this is why michael cohen and stormy daniels in particular putting castello side. but stormy daniels and michael cohen, they have complicated motives. and so david pecker also has sort of complicated motives. and

that makes it a more a complicated story to tell that having been said, there is a lot of documentary evidence there is a lot of discussion about matters that i confident the former president would not want to be sitting discussing over the course of five weeks. but what that looks like, we don't know. >> can we talk about how he never testified? i don't think between the two of us, either of us ever thought he was getting on that witness stand but i mean, he put it out there a lot. >> he was the defendant himself who offered and said he was going to testify. sean was saying to people as recently as about a week and a half ago that he really wanted to testify and that he was likely going to and his most on his team did not want him to because they were afraid that that was going to be the end of the case. if he got on the stand defendants who is he is still has the same presumption of innocence as any defendant because that's what the system is. >> but if you are someone who is going to go out there and repeatedly claim falsely that you're being prevented from testifying, that you're gagged so you can testify he could

have gotten up there and he could have answered all those nitro is not two. >> and instead speaks outside the courtroom on a daily basis and complains that he's unable to speak? yes. right it says multiple things that just aren't sure if you've been the courtroom. we also have other legal voices, voices that are here tonight, better in new york defense attorney arthur aidala, and also cnn, senior legal analyst and former assistant us attorney elie honig when i can ellie, a big thing that happened today that was not as insane as robert costello's testimony, but maybe more important was what the instructions are actually going to be from the judge when he speaks to the jury next week i mean, can you just put it if it's basically telling this jury and non-legal term what the statutes are and what they're making their judgments based off the jury instructions are so important, they're sorted, dry, but they're crucial there. the last thing the jury will hear before they disappear into that jury room to deliberate and we as a criminal justice system, we do the best we can. we try to have the judge explain it in non-legal understandable terms.

some part of the jury tradition is easy to understand. for example, it's up to you, the jury, to assess the credibility of the witnesses. anyone can understand that. >> other parts get really deep into the weeds. usually when we get into the elements of the crime and what happened today when the parties were arguing about what the jury instructions should be and should not be. absolutely blew my mind. >> we are i need to call this out. >> we collect actively prosecutors are pushing the boundaries of due process here. the general back-and-forth in the courtroom today was the defense lawyers defense lawyer saying, your honor, please tell the jury specifically what the other crime is, right. prosecutors have to prove falsified records for another crime. defense lawyers are begging him. they have to know what the other the crime is, and prosecutors were saying, no, let's keep it very vague and general. it's a bizarro world. i know that there is some aggressive reading of the new york statute that says while the jury doesn't really have to know what the other crime is, but to me, that suggests that the da's office is hell bent on getting the

conviction now and worry about that as a fallout later, katelyn, that's exactly the opposite of the way it usually is usually is the prosecutors who want things more narrow and the defense attorneys want things wider and here it's it's just bizarro world. but in terms of him not testifying and saying he's going to testify. look, that's defense attorney one-on-one. you you want to keep your adversary don't the a toes. you want them preparing, even though they got 18 prosecutors on this case, you want them being spending time preparing to cross-examine the defendant. >> you they would probably love to cross-examine the defendant here. >> you don't have to take maybe or maybe not because donald trump does things that no other human being could pull off some time. >> he testified in the carroll case and he got an $83,000,000 judgment thanks. >> in front of excuse me. but it was in front of judge kaplan, who in the first time ever said to have a lawyer. i want to know everything your client is going to say before he testifies, and i'm owning allow alaskan myth three questions that was talking about lack of due process, given the jury decided how much money was happening there. but let's talk about what's happening here because i mean,

if you're the defense attorney and you're making that argument about what the instructions can be and what this looks like for the jury. i mean, it could truly decide this verdict and what that jury walks out of that room. absolutely. and i think always description was exactly right in terms of where we are seeing. i mean none necessarily coming to your description conclusions, but it is absolutely true that prosecutors are asking for a very broad interpretation of what could be allowed. and at one point you heard emil bove, one of the defense lawyers, say today that essentially i don't remember exactly how much sean came down on this but it was the argument was your leaving this so vague that one interpretation is that he could have broken a civil election law and that not even a criminal violation and it just gets into very complicated areas. i mean, this is one of the challenges of this case, is that in trying to explain it to people it is it is very complicated. the charges are very complicated, and probably

ever happened before. prosecutions don't get crowd-sourced. but when you're dealing with typically, but when you are dealing with the former president and current presumptive nominee, the circumstances just are what they are. yeah. >> i think it all goes into the bigger picture of what we're looking yeah. because this is separate, but it's a development that happened tonight and i wanted to ask you all about it because this is in the classified documents case, that trump is dealing with. he is now coming out and saying on truth, social la, that joe biden's doj authorized the fbi to use deadly lethal force against me marjorie taylor greene is taking it. she's saying that they were planning to assange lesson eight president trump and gave the green light. i won't even mention that trump's attorneys are arguing to this supreme court right now that technically the president has that authority. but obviously that's not true. the fbi to put out a statement today saying this is standard procedure that the fbi always has lethal force. they showed up tomorrow logo knowing donald trump wasn't there, they didn't show up at 6:00 okay. in the morning, they didn't come with the lights flashing and the guns blazing. it was a

very chill seen for a scene where they were showing up to find classified documents. >> this is ridiculous. there's nothing to see here and i looked even at what specifically they're talking about. >> if you look at the search warrant documentation, there is a standard form. it's page 11 of the ship and it gives the fbi and the generally acknowledged standard for use of lethal force. it says essentially, you can only fire your weapon, you can only use lethal force if there is imminent danger of death or serious bodily injury to somebody else. if you see somebody else about to shoot somebody about the stab somebody, it is. if anything, a very tight limit on when you you can use lethal force. almost never. it appears in every search warrant, every ops point operational plan, ops plan. there is nothing to this. the notion that there's something dangerous wrong. i'm hesitant to even dignify the assassination talk by even mentioning it, but completely adeline. >> but you've got to still just take into consideration that this is a guy, meaning trump, who has secret service protection. there. i mean,

there are elements that do make this difference where ms haberman, i disagree with you. there are elements him being the president has nothing to do with the jury charge. nothing. you didn't you're completely misrepresenting what i just said. i thought you just said that's what you said. it was like, let's just was called iv, former president of the united you know, that is not what i said. what i said was the prosecution's don't get crowdsourced typically, you don't actually pay attention to the political realm. but in this case, it is understandable. i'm not talking about the jury charge. you totally misunderstood what i said. okay. representative, regarding the jury charge, then i'll go now we really, it's usually not complicated to describe the elements of the crime. >> ladies and gentlemen, the jury, the prosecution has the burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt to prove that mr. x caused the data heating are literally repeating what i just okay. so we're agree. she said what i know. i know you had to take the position that i must be taking something oppositional to you, but that's why i go back to what we were talking about on the

documents case. >> and this is going to preserve this at home. >> in terms of the secret service. the secret service was fully aware of what was going on with this search warrant. it's not as if the fbi just showed up in the secret service was shocked by that they they knew ahead of time this was happening. the reason and listened, people have feelings about this, this search warrant that was executed on mar-a-lago. the reason that there was a search warrant was there was a grand jury subpoena that was ignored over and over again. and finally, the doj has said they felt like they had to go in and do this. now, people can and take issue with that, but that is what happened and they showed up at 9:00 a.m. they had a lighter presence. they didn't have guns drawn and they are always armed. they weren't even wearing the fbi jackets. >> i should add donald trump's team has the opportunity and they are now in the process of legally contesting the search. they're making a standard motion to suppress the search, are saying that cause wasn't there. it will be mitigated by judge cannon, by the way. but again, the idea is about lethal force or proportion. >> but watch, this is going to become a thing because i already saying trump's allies putting it out there tonight.

luckily, we addressed it. maggie haberman, elie honig, arthur aidala. thank you. all meanwhile, the hush money case could hinge on one person's testimony and the evidence that he provided to the jury. >> will they believe michael cohen? of course, he's a long history of leinz that we saw trotted out inside that courtroom that you're looking at here michael cohen's attorney is here next also, trump torpedoed a bipartisan compromise as to address the crisis at the border. >> but it is now going back for a vote on the senate floor guess who else is pointing to block it now, we're going to speak to the republican senator who helped craft it's that bill. first time you're on the source and moments the assignments are going off. the tornado here you cannot out swim this you cannot outrun it really is a terrifying experience. it is the stuff of nightmares you could hear it and feel it is in my throat

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testified at donald trump's criminal trial, but it is one who could really make or break the prosecution's case michael cohen, trump's former attorney and fixer. he was the one of course who paid off the adult-film star stormy daniels to ensure her silence ahead of the 2016 election. and he tapped testified that it was all at the direction of donald trump. the key question that we don't know the answer until maybe next week potentially is, does the jury believe him? my source tonight is michael cohen's attorney, danya perry, and it's great to have you here first. i mean, we haven't seen michael cohen since he left the witness stand. have you spoken to him, how's he doing? >> he's good. he's certainly relieved. he's catching up on sleep. he's taking his blood pressure meds. he's he's doing well. >> he had a rough couple of days for sure and a rough couple of weeks and months leading into the trial. so he is now i can't say he's fully relaxed. he's waiting like everybody else. for the jury to

return with a verdict? but he's he's a good frame of mind. i think and as of i think he i think he handled themselves well and has reason to feel good. >> and you were there in court every day i saw you would sit right there behind the prosecution team when it comes to how he his demeanor in court, i think a lot of people were surprised that he was calmer, cooler, and collected than the michael cohen that everyone you has interacted with for years and knows certainly reporters and whatnot is that something that you spent a lot of time prepping for or what were those conversations like going into this? >> i won't get that too deep in the weeds of our conversations. but certainly a lot when into it. as you point out, it's not necessarily has baseline go-to mode, but he had a couple of advantages going into this he is telling the truth he has told this truth for six years now. he's

corroborated by all kinds of data points and piece of about and so i think he understood. i think i helped him to understand that was really important that he maintained composure and also present gid the same way to the jury, whether he is on direct or cross in this case, we cross redirect and i think really cross brown. >> there's a lot of lot of questioning. >> but on that point, just felt something that happened today. >> what we're talking about the jury instructions, one of trump's attorneys kinda was told to was told to sit down by the judge because they were arguing that they are being disingenuous by and as the judge was phrasing it, saying that they wanted a jury instruction to say the fact that its entire in trial was based on the word of an attorney who worked for president trump, and that he was entitled to draw some inferences from that. it would essentially be an advice of counsel defense, which we learned before this trial started. they were boeing to be able to use what do you make of that i make exactly what judge

marsha on did they've tried it. >> they've tried to dress it up in a couple of different ways. advice of counsel information of council, or general involvement by counsel. counsel just kind of hanging around no matter how you slice or die said, it's a very specific defense that comes with some some consequences. if you are going to try and proffer that defense, then you do have to open up a whole can of worms, including any conversations that the defendant might have had that otherwise would have been privileged and so it's very specific to fence that. you can't just throw in, particularly not the 11th hour when none of the elements have been established. and the other side of it has not been presented. obviously, one of the moments you said it's been a it's a rough few days room. one of the most damaging moments to him that i think everyone would agree was when the defense was asking him about the payment back to the firm that basically he had paid

to or he had had rig a pole to boost donald trump and to put them higher up in the poll he admitted that he did not pay them the full amount that he got from the trump organization. and under cross, todd blanche got him to say that yeah, it was stealing from the trump organization did that moment stealing that that phrase of it come up when the prosecutors were talking to michael cohen i also can't look that the trial is still pending, and so i have to that'd be a little bit careful here, but i will say whether it came up with a prosecutors are not. >> i do think they listed it and drew the staying on direct, but it came up four years ago when michael published his first book, disloyal, he is the one the reason the defense have this line of argument is because michael handed it to them on a silver platter. he admitted in his book that he had stolen this money from the trump organization. and of course, he gave his rationale for it. you gave it again that he engaged in some form of

self-help because he'd been stuffed on his bonus a lot of people would argue that's not good rash. rational religion. but he is the one who provided this information. so a lot of what they crossed him on our tidbits and pieces of information that came from michael cohen. so i understand that trump lawsuit but of course i know that was dropped over the idea of a deposition, but but on that front, i mean, we've we're hearing from people in trump's world saying, well, michael cohen should be charged here actually with stealing well, that ship has sailed. whatever you might make up the merits of that argument the statute of limitations has long since expired. i believe it did even before michael first let the world know about this. but it's not understand that the for tat argument that's obviously as the defense and it

came up both on defense and prosecution. michael kahn was not on trial here. he's not even the typical cooperator who who has a beef to work off, who has a sentence is that he wants reduced. he has served his time. so understood that he has some baggage. i've never i've been involved in hundreds of trials. i've never had a cooperating witness who didn't before we go, do you think that robert costello, who was brought on by the defense extensively to undermine michael cohen's credibility, did more to undermine your client? >> or maybe his own credibility look, it sounds like he was asked a very simple, basic question and he answered and then that was immediately dispelled on cross-examination. >> so i think this whole notion that he was sent in by trump and that he was back channeling with rudy giuliani and trump he said no, even though he had the receipts, he had seen the emails he himself had sent the emails. so i thought it was just a strange gambit and i thought it i certainly thought it backfired. my certainly

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democrats are going to force a vote this thursday on the bipartisan border security package. they board president donald trump killed back in february a bill that was described this way by one of the republicans who helped write it we're getting as much as we possibly can. >> and we're going to try to be able to move forward because we've got to stop having the thousands of people well, that are crossing the border every day, unchecked senator james link for nel says this about the bill are we doing this all the american people see it? everybody sees this is political but everyone in the country also sees, why don't you guys and ladies fix this instead and our source tonight is the republican senator. >> you see there senator james langford and sundar, it's great to have you on the show. welcome for the first time. you said that you will vote no on this bill, even though of course we all know about the efforts that you put into it, why are you voted no on thursday is no longer a bill

now it's a prop we spent four months sitting down in a bipartisan way to be able to work out. what do we think we can actually get passed? obviously, i was not successful in getting something. i can actually get past the problem still remains everyone knows that this bill is not going to pass and senator schumer's bringing back up to try to bludgeon people. but what will be interesting on it is you're not going to have republicans are going to vote for it the same. republicans didn't vote for our last time. but i expect there'll be more democrats that will vote against at this time as well when it stand alone, there were some democrats had said, i'm not going to vote for it if it doesn't have daca doesn't have a amnesty of doesn't have all those things they wanted they were willing to vote for it if it had ukraine and israel funding in it, but not willing to vote for it on a standalone. so it'd be interesting to see how many votes that gets total. my challenge to the senate. and as you played the clip, murder today was, let's actually sit down like grown-ups if the whole thing wouldn't get wouldn't work and we couldn't pass the republican proposal, which is her2. we couldn't pass this particular bipartisan proposal, which was my bill i worked on with centers cinema and senator murphy, if that

couldn't pass, let's at least sit down and figure out what will pass. let's not just keep pulling the same builds up over and over again that we know we're not going to pass in ten were doing something. we're not getting it solved let's sit down. let's actually work this out and let's get it done because you yesterday with more than 5,000 people, again, that illegally crossed the border yesterday. this has got to stop. >> but senator, you knew the first time that you voted for it, that it also wasn't going to pass them and you still did vote for it then? >> yeah. that was actually when we're in the heat of trying to be able to get the moment out. and my challenge to my colleagues was, let's actually see if we can actually pass this that was when we brought the bill up. obviously, the week before, i felt like we were going to pass it and over about 72 hours i had quite a few folks have walked away and said, nope, not going to vote for it this time. my challenge was to my colleagues. let's step up and do it. that's now several months ago. we know it's not going to pass again sooner. schumer's just bringing this up for a political reason on it and i've said, hey, center schumer, if you want to

actually pass something, let's sit down and actually work this out. but this is not a bipartisan attempt to be able to solve something. this is a partisan attempt for fundraising or for whatever attempt they're trying to do. and honestly don't think most of the american people are paying attention to this. at this point because we've already vote over this you wouldn't run into any one of the street today that said that bill is going to pass this week because everyone already knows the outcome, just like we do in the senate. >> well i take your point that democrats are using it as a messaging bill. i mean, they've made that clear that they believe they can pass this and say, look, we tried to get something done and there was nothing to get done. but but on that front, you said adults need to get in the room of work it out, but that already happened with you and with senator murphy and kyrsten, senator instead of a that moment has already happened in a bipartisan fashion, and it still didn't work. so i think some people who sit at home and do believe immigration is a real issue may say, well, why would it work this time if it didn't work two months ago? >> well, in the exact same bill, they would be completely

correct if it didn't work two months ago, you can't bring the same bill up again without working at all and think nothing's going to happen. we tried to add one point, get everything that was her-2. they've got everything and then we tried to get a bipartisan bill to say, okay, let's at least do all we can that didn't work. so my next statement is okay what can we get done? because there are things that can be done on this. my challenges to the biden administration, my communication with department of homeland security is do as much as you can do this same exact law that we're functioning under ride now under president obama, they even think about president trump and this under president obama we had dramatically fewer people cross using the exact same law, the exact same enforcement we have as many people illegally crossing now in three months is what president obama had in a year so if the president would just use the exact same authorities, president obama used those years ago. this would be dramatically different, but congress also has a job. we've got to change the asylum definition. we've got to change all the appeal process that everyone knows is way too

long and doesn't work, allows people to be able to game the system and honest some of the funding we need to hire more agents. let's do all those things. so they need to do their part. we need to do ours on asylum, obviously that is something i know. you've talked about. only congress being able to do and legislation is obviously more permanent than an executive order that can just be undone. we saw that basically at the beginning of every administration now. but but you talked about democrats playing politics with this, using it as a prop, as you said. but that was exactly what your republican colleagues did when they walked away from the bill that you put so much effort into two months ago. so do you think voters will hold democrats accountable for that and not republicans who also played politics when this bill, when democrats were willing to vote for it i would i would tell you that i talked to folks at home in my state, obviously, i can from oklahoma it's a conservative state that they're upset with democrats, that they wouldn't support her2, which passed the house, came over to the senate. >> no democrat voted for that in the senate. they're frustrated with republicans because republicans wouldn't

vote for the bipartisan bill what i hear, the vast majority of people in my state saying is somebody do something. this is a problem. both sides need to sit down and be able to figure out how to be able to solve it. it is easy in washington dc to be able to point at each other. there's a time and a place for that. but when we have what we have now with the rise of terrorism, with what we know right now of this administration notes is the dramatic increase the number, what they call special interest aliens. they're coming across the border from all over the world, from places of known terrorism that we don't know anything about them. they are coming by the thousands at this point. and you can't filter out who's looking for a job and who it actually means us harm when that is occurring. now very high numbers when to stop playing politics with this issue and to say, let's sit down and resolve as much as we can. white house needs to do what it can do, because it can do the same thing. president obama did enforcement's. >> we need to do what we can do because four generations now, we have seen gaps in this has been more than 30 years since

we've had a change in immigration law and everybody knows we need to fill those loopholes. and i understand that you hold you, put a lot of this on the white house and say that they shoulder a lot of blame for right now what's happening with immigration. obviously, joe biden is the president of the united states. but do you also hold donald trump accountable since he prolonged the crisis that's happening that you say your bill would have fixed i don't know if he prolong the crisis on that. i would say foresman years well yeah, we were talking about when he was president, his enforcement of the of the same laws that president obama had. his enforcement of the border was dramatically different than what president biden is not doing and enforcing the border. but you're right, president trump was one of the folks i was saying he wanted to get everything. he says if we're going to do a bill dealing with immigration, let's solve all the problems we weren't solving everything. we were solving as many as we could get bipartisan support for in his statement was if you can't solve everything that don't solve it at all, when he gets

there, he'll try to be able to solve at all. well, he no doubt enforce the border very different than what's actually happening. respectfully, senator, he said the bill that your bill was ludicrous, that it was a gifted democrats. and so it sounds like the reality that you're dealing was, is that he only wants to address immigration when he's in office, but when it helps him when he's not an office and he's running to get back in he doesn't want a common sense solution that you proposed i think he wants to make sure that this is actually solved and he doesn't believe that president biden is going to actually solve it. >> and he also knows this is a key issue for the american people that it was not as big of an issue until he was not president. this we were literally were two-and-a-half million people that will illegally across this this year in 2020, we're at half 1 million people that illegally across a year. so there's literally 2 million more people a year are crossing the border illegally than the last year president trump was president. so there is a significant difference. he is right on that

one. it is a major campaign issue i know a lot of my colleagues are saying, why would you take this off the table during a campaign time period? there are others that have disagreements with a bill because they wanted more in it. there was no amnesty, there was no all those things that we've typically seen in a lot of these agreements in the past, there was just not enough for some of my colleagues and i get that. i say get as much as we can get and then let let's keep negotiating for the rest. >> and of course, no one is defending the numbers now, but it obviously was also down in the last year he was in office because there was a global pandemic underway. i know you know that well, you look at these numbers regularly, center james-lange for a great to have you here on the source. we hope to have you back. thanks for joining you bet. >> glad to do it meanwhile. >> so you gave donald trump and the campaign trail after going after and talking about figuring out how to talk about abortion rights, donald trump said today that he is looking at birth control restrictions then walked up statement bet very clip quickly and shut the door on it. we will play the moment of what he said start

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pneumococcal pneumonia i had to go montgomery in tokyo and this is cnn donald trump denying tonight that he would support restricting birth control despite comments just hours earlier today suggesting that he was open to that very idea. this is what the former president told a pittsburgh television station do you support any restrictions on a person's right to contraception? well we're looking at that and i'm going to have a policy on that very shortly. and i think it's something you you'll find interesting the biden campaign did find those comments interesting and quickly seized on them. >> meanwhile, the former president that led him to post on truth social, tonight's and quote, i have never and will never advocate imposing restrictions on birth control or other contraceptives. trump said that anyone claiming otherwise was a pet was peddling a democrat fabricated lie, even though of course, as you've just heard, there, it came from the former president

himself joe b tonight. the table to discuss all of this former national coalitions director for the biden harris 2020 campaign, ashley alison also cnn's political commentator, s. e. cupp i mean he opened the door and then use lambda. chuck, i mean, this is typical, especially on this issue. he has waffled on this issue from the 90s until now on everything from whether there should be a federal ban, a state ban, six weeks, ten weeks? ivf contraceptions. and what's wild to me is that this is a defining issue of this election. this is a defining issue for women. most importantly, this is a defining issue for republican voters that he doesn't have a coherent position on this issue is bananas and almost malfeasance. how you haven't hammered this out so that you know exactly what to say when that very easy question is

asked. you don't have to back pedal. you don't have to waffle. you don't have to keep saying, well, we'll kick it over to the states as, as if that answers the thing which is exactly what he did with his abortion. that's what i usually do. >> so i think i'm somewhat more skeptical of donald trump at this point 0.22 of you i think he is very clear on the issues and i think he does want to do and i think he does want to monitor woman's pregnancies and i think he does want limit contraceptions and i think he does want to ensure that row stays overturn and it's not a state-by-state issue. >> i think he would sign a national abortion ban. i think he does this waffling to confuse people. so he can pander to whoever may hear it at the time. maybe he can get an nikki haley voter if he says i'm going to announce something later, it's a simple answer. do you were president at one where you had an opportunity to weigh in on these issues and you want to be president again. so i think this is a game that he plays on many issues, but particularly this issue since roe has been overturned, which is why it's so dangerous,

because he's he's, you should be very clear on the issue about a woman's right to choose about a woman's right to have conscious perception. >> we have cases in the supreme court right now that are going to be decided that people he nominated to the supreme court did. >> and if he becomes president and again, he'll get to nominate most likely more supreme court justices. so i hope people continue to ask him these questions. i hope voters republicans and dependence hold his feet to the fire on this issue because he knows where he stands on it. he just isn't being honest with you. >> i mean, i get why democrats want to impress upon voters. we know what he's going to do and he's gonna do the worst possible. thanks. i get that as a as a selection tactic. but if he's actually very clear about it, he is off a base that got him elected. the probe life republican voter. they are furious. they're not confused. they're mad at him for waffling on this and not just coming out and saying, of course, i'll sign an abortion ban, a federal abortion ban, of course, all protect x, y, and z. they're mad, they're not

confused, but they're not going on. they're not going to walk away from you because it's not like president biden and democrats are offering them that is closer to their position. >> but this is the tried and true trump formula of kind of putting something out there, being vague enough when you're criticized for it, you blaming democrats, it had and then walking it back. oh, and then the infamous big announcement that's coming that never comes. >> yeah. >> it never he's done that before. he's done it before i would again yeah. >> yeah. you're going to love it. it's gonna be a very interesting plan. it's going to be very smart. you're going to love it, will reveal it soon as he kept ashley allison great to have you both here. meanwhile, a really seriously disturbing story tonight that we are still tracking and still trying to get answers to after extreme turbulence so one passenger, and injured dozens more were going to hear a harrowing account from someone who is on boboard that singapore flight next if you have graves disease, your eye symptoms could mean something more.

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airlines plane plummeted hundreds of feet and out of the sky with severe turbulence, ultimately killing one passenger and injuring 71 more. >> one of those passengers gave his chilling account to cnn detailing the moment that others on board tried to save the man who is data directly behind him who's fairly obvious that he passed a muffet from the moment we be call it onto the floor say that gave good 20 minutes of cpr and then the date they pronounced in dead, you know, they they they covered him with a blanket the poor gentleman was was on the aisle, on the floor. >> so from that point onwards, it was to try and preserve as much deacon see is possible in those circumstances. >> it's just a heartbreaking thing to hear from these passengers were told this turbulence that lasted about 90 seconds. this is the aftermath that you were looking at here

inside the plane. ever passengers were rattled around the cabin joining me tonight as soon as aviation analyst miles o'brien and miles, i mean, you just heard with the passenger on this plane lived through what he was saying happened is everything was just everywhere during the turbulence and the c in an animation shows. this is similar to what was experienced on that flight before it made that emergency landing what causes this? yeah, it's horrifying is like caitlin, i got to tell you that that really took me back just hearing that story what we're talking about here, most likely is an advantage where a crew flew into what is called clear-air turbulence, which quite literally comes out of the blue you can imagine invisible dreams, rivers of air, the call them jet streams at altitude. >> and the wind is hundreds of miles an hour. and it's kind of like a layer cake. they goh and layers and if you end up in a

situation where there is a sudden and dramatic change in the direction of the string dreams. the amount of lift on the wing changes quickly and dramatically. and that's why you get that kind of upset. and interestingly, there has been a trend over the past 50 years where more of these events have occurred over longer periods of time because of climate change, it unsettles the atmosphere changes these jet streams ways that are harder to predict, and perhaps we're going to see more of these as time goes on. it's impossible for a pilot for air traffic controllers. and for that matter of meteorologists to predict these clear-air turbulence events, unfortunately, i mean, if a pilot can't predict that, what are they left to do when they're watching something is horrifying? buying is this what pilots rely on, believe it or not is the pilot ahead of them? pilot reports and when we hear about turbulence at a particular altitude we get advisories from air traffic

control and we change altitude. but somebody has got to be first and sometimes things happen this way. there are other kinds of the turbulence that you can avoid, which are more associated with whether obviously, big, towering cumulus clouds associated with thunderstorms. you want to avoid those. there are weather events just being in the wake of a big airplane can cause turbulence. mountain wave is another one when skips off a mountain but this one insidious kind clear-air turbulence defies. it's it's invisible to the system, unfortunately, so it's important if a pilot gets are those reports that light goes up to buckle your seat belts by all means, backlit while you see i mean, after seeing that video, i think everyone it's doing that, especially people who are watching this from a plane right now, miles o'brien, it's great to have your course. our hearts go out to the passenger who was killed on that flight thank you, miles for that.