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possible. think about your outside wall between your bathroom and all of a sudden you have a closet behind it, behind there. so there's another wall. think about how many walls you can get and that's always on the interior of your room, never on the outside of the room. i remember so i moved in a raskin 76. they said get in the basement in southwest corner. well, as it turns out that was the most dangerous place to be. so yes, there are still myths, but look at this damage, this this just drone footage forces the drone video that you told us a lot earlier. >> yeah. >> i knew we had it. it was coming in. we were trying to get it into the system. sometimes it takes a minute, even with the speed of sound, the speed of light. but here you go. this is what the town looks like right now. >> folks, you have to be careful out there, chad. thank you very, very much. i will blitzer in this situation room. thanks very much for watching the news continues. next i'm cnn tonight on three 60, the
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defense of the trial >> prioress, but not without a damaging cross-examination of their only witness. also, new photos. we have never seen before in the classified documents case allegedly showing a trump aide and co-defendant moving boxes inside mar-a-lago before trump attorneys were to check for classified files? and severe turbulence >> good evening. the defense of donald trump ended today in a manhattan courtroom. the former president who's made wild accusations outside the court chose to remain silent and not speak to the jury under oath. one witness, the defendant did want the jury to hear an attorney named robert costello. the defense called him yesterday to try and undermine the credibility of the prosecution's key witness, michael cohen but today, prosecutors badly undermined his they used emails involving costello, sent within weeks of michael cohen's arrest by the fbi in 2018? to show that while castello was offering cohen legal advice, is motives seem
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to mirror then president trump's in one email, prosecutors read to him because stella writes his law partner, quote, are issues to get cohen on the right page without giving him the appearance since we are following instructions from giuliani or the president this came a day after judge merchan cleared the court overwork costello's breast demeanor toward the judge. and once the defense wrap their case in the early afternoon today, that left hours a battle between the two sides over the seemingly arcane, but absolutely vital charging instructions. the judge will give to the jury these instructions will act like a roadmap for their deliberations of the former president's fate. but because the current court schedule combined with a long memorial day weekend coming up means the jury members are headed home for long layover, and will not return to your closing arguments until next tuesday, after which they will begin their deliberation. the judge today said that should begin next wednesday joined now by robert ray, the former president's counsel in his first impeachment trial, former federal prosecutor jeffrey
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thuban, former new york supreme court judge diane qizan. and to people who've been inside the courtroom throughout these long days and hours of testimony. norm eisen, former counsel to house democratic during that first impeachment. and cnn's kara scannell i want to get carried to the jury instructions a little bit, but first, let's talk about what happened to costello. they're only witness that they put on the stand on cross-examination. >> right. i mean, he was brought into undermine michael cohen's credibility and prosecutor susan hoffinger spent the morning trying to undermine costello's and she asked him seemingly off the bat a somewhat innocuous question to set things up, asking costello if in that first meeting he had with michael cohen, if he had mentioned his connections to rudy giuliani, who was very close to trump, not yet on the legal team. and the costello had said that no, he hadn't. so then she brings up an email and shows it to him and says, you sent this email, correct? this is correct. i did say to mr. cohen that's correct. two days after meeting him? that's correct, yes. she said, i'm going to read this for the jury. i'm sure you saw
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the news that rudy is joining the trump legal team. i told you my relationship with rudy, which could be very, very useful for you. so confronting him with this to get him on the back foot suggests you did tell this to michael cohen in that first meeting. why are you not saying to the jury right now that you did this all this was a pattern that she used all day asking him questions than showing him an email some new for the first time that came in before the jury, just to show this relationship between trump and trump's lawyers rudy giuliani, and wrong avert costello to undermine his defense that he wasn't trying to pressure michael cohen. the prosecution has said that there was a pressure campaign they wanted to keep cohen in the camp and didn't want them to flip on. donald trump why did they put crystal those the only witness the defense has called was this. >> do you think it was like punishment to donald trump wanted him on and he had testified took committee before congress. >> one can only speculate and there has been some reporting that trump's saw him
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testifying in congress and said put him on but from a perspective of defending their client it was a disaster a good way to end. it left a bad taste in the jury's mouth as they go home for a week, the jury could see yesterday that the judge was as angry at costello as he has been at any point in this trial and juries grow attached to a judge, judge merchan is a very good judge. this jury is very fond of him today. the jury was visibly annoyed with costello rolling their eyes, shaking their heads and ada susan hoffinger did a masterful job, not just impeaching costello and make him look looking bad insinuating that he had tried to manipulate michael cohen. but of supporting her own case by using castello to
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explain the pressure that michael cohen felt and that pressure as a reason for his false hoods before he started cooperating. so it was a disastrous decision and because he was the only substantive witness, there was a document witness, daniel sitko, a paralegal, who set up the costello testimony because he was the not only substantive witness, anderson the risk is that some of that spillover effect is this honesty, his rudeness, the judge's disdain for him attaches to the defense as these jurors go home for a week disastrous move jeff unbelievable unbelievable. >> i just have to say i mean, the idea that this would be the entire defense case and the judge the jury is always instructed the defense is not obliged to put forth any evidence. the burden of proof is always on the government. it is always true that the government calls many more witnesses than the defense but
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juries are always interested at the end of the defense. the government's case. what is the defense have to say what are they going to put forward and they put forward this guy who was far as i could tell, the only thing he accomplished was he showed there was a conspiracy of trump giuliani and costello himself to get cohen to keep lying, to stay on the team with trump. that to me is inconceivable as a defense strategy ultimately, i think the defense can hope this was just a sideshow. it wasn't really about the core issues in the case but as the one defense witness total disaster, robert was my look i do. i really know ultimately it doesn't matter what i know. it's what the jury thinks and makes of this. my own sense is it's a lot of atmospherics the reason this witness was called is because he directly contradicts which is pitchman of the statements
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made by michael cohen on the stand, michael cohen now is giving you a story that implicates donald trump. and he told his own lawyer that he didn't have anything on donald trump. now, i would have ask that in two questions. if i had been doing this myself, to be honest with you, i wouldn't have belabored it. most judges don't like what's referred to as extrinsic evidence of impeachment. it's it's it's allowed in its kind of narrowly circumscribed. usually, i would not have he comes with baggage and i knew that that's the risk of call on this witness. and so i'm trying to uh, minimize the baggage by leaving it to two or three questions, then i would have been done. i would not have allowed him to meander off into the wilderness as he did with the opportunity to basically act insulting to the judge and judge overseeing the judge to have to take action which was not really i think beneficial to the defense case. >> well, i think it's not only what he said, but that demeanor the day before is really deadly for the defense it's true.
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jurors start to bond with the judge, especially over a long trial, and you can be sure that when by the way, he's sitting a few feet away from the jury. that's the reason the jury box box is right by the witness box, because you want to look at the demeanor of the witnesses. so let me tell you when he started muttering under his breath, giving the hairy eyeball to the judge, the jury saw that and believe me, when the judge said sergeant give the jury their break. >> they knew exactly what was going on and, you know, they're in the jury room whispering it out. >> what's going to happen now if i had been the question right at that point, you would just like to strangle a witness and just stay statically, but that didn't happen what will we know? >> we won't know until the end? will it be subject of some commentary during juror deliberations, i almost guarantee you that it will how much effect it will have look, the jury ultimately has to focus on the evidence of what what really transpired here. >> one fact worth remembering
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about this jury is that there has not been one juror who has left a jury in the course of more than a month long case, we let's talk to other judges in that courthouse. very unusual, very unusual. >> yeah, i thought it was inevitable that you would have seen at some alternate jurors go that suggests to me, again, i don't want to pretend i mind rating, but this is a committed jury, a serious jury a jury that really wants to reach a verdict in this case. doesn't want to have a hung jury. the fact that they are all still there from day one is unusual and important, and you can see it in the demeanor karen, i see it in the demeanor of that jury. they take it seriously many of them take notes. they look at the lawyer, they look at the witness, they pay attention to the judge it's all the more remarkable because we lost two jurors during voir dire to would've been selected had comments or contacts or felt uncomfortable and we
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thought, oh, they're going to have to tap that pool of alternate part of the reason, by the way, that the judge is taking this break is if he had rushed through this week and he'd seated the jury and then release the alternate sends everybody home for four-day memorial day. he could have risked losing his jury. so there is a remarkable bonding as the judge said, that has happened, he's not going to release those alternatives. it's until the jury begins deliberating. then of course, it's the defense lawyers call if they want the alternative to remain because you can't see an alternate once a jury begins deliberation without the consent of the difference, do you think it favors one side or the other? this break of basically a week. i mean, tuesday is gonna be goes the argument it's hard to tell. i mean, there's a part of me that if i were susan hoffinger and her team, i would want the jury to have fresh in their mind this castello witness because it really does. i think bolster
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the people's case however, you don't want deliberations to begin in there to be a three or four day break, it's just too dangerous the idea that you're going to a barbecue over the holiday weekend isn't somebody going to say and it's all what's going on in the jury room and i'd like to thank that. i don't i shouldn't say i'd like to think. i know these jurors are going to abide by the instruction the judge, the law presumes that they will and i've never in my experience had occasionally you get a rogue juror, but for the most part they're very attentive they want obligate, they do. and i also stayed it's the right call to have distinct start with summations after the holiday weekend. i wouldn't have tried to rush things along. i think that's the right way to go. >> totally agree i want to play something, judge. >> that trump said outside the court. obviously he chose not to testify though he said he
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would be up for it any everybody we talked to obviously said there was no way he was going to testify ever, but let's play what he said outside the court and he showed that you never said rather have first of all so initially me, how the people position themselves behind him on either sides of their seen on cameras what do you i mean, it makes my blood boil the idea look, he's not violating the gag order. >> he's allowed to criticize the judge. it's not the criticism the judge that in and of itself bad enough. it goes to the heart of our justice system. he is undermining the rule of law. he is saying this
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man is corrupt with what evidence i know he is saying this man is biased and whether he gets acquitted or convicted, they know they're going to be a lot of people people out there who are going to think that the new york supreme court is corrupt. >> and it's really offensive and it should be to everyone who is concerned about the rule of law. everyone. thank you. appreciate it. the conclusion of testimony and pause in court proceedings means it may be a long while before we again witnessed the entourage. i'm trump allies and hangers on and fill the seats behind the form former president during the trial. and who'd become mainstays in these sometimes circus-like atmosphere today was no different. omar jimenez has that story a new day in court, a new cast of characters in support of donald trump. >> anyone in america should be embarrassed at the absolute miscarriage bridge of justice that we're seeing here. this cannot stand and it cannot allow to continue. don. why did you feel the need to come down here and personal?
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>> because you have no choice. again, i wasn't a political guy my whole life. you have to fight, you have to leave our country to our children in a way that they can recognize it, but it wasn't just donald trump junior in court today. they were the more staid supporters, like former acting attorney general, matt whitaker. we demand better new york city demands better and former florida attorney general, pam bondi but also politicians like former white house doctor. >> now texas congressmen, ronny jackson, congresswoman maria salazar, and even congressmen troy nehls sporting a donald trump hugging the flag, tie. >> this is five weeks sitting in a courtroom. what he should be outreaching the american people and telling the american people what he would like to do for this country. >> there were a few on the more unexpected sayyed, like chuck ss ido, former new york chapter president for the hell's angels, which the department of justice has called a criminal enterprise and has linked to the gambia no crime family, even actor and trump supporter joe pisco showed up famous for his impersonations on saturday
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night live. >> it's time i'm that for all of us to start buying and thriving american cars now, the reception for some of those who come to support, it doesn't always go as planned. there are haters there are haters people are but with closing arguments inside the courtroom ahead, there's no sign trump's out died supporters or slowing down anytime soon. the star witness in this case, there's a what? nine times convicted liar in now. now in admitted thief that is who they're hanging the entire case on omar jimenez joins us now. >> how is this organized by the trunk family, by the people around trump? is it do we know? >> well as we understand, look, when this trial first started back in april, multiple sources familiar with trump's thinking, told cnn that trump was privately complaining there weren't enough allies either inside the courtroom or outside
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the courtroom, defending him, then next thing you know, senators like rick scott are coming here after that. then you have house speaker mike johnson, other republican allies, sometimes even dressed in similar ways, including red tie, similar suits. we don't know if that's coordinated. and then of course you see the wide range of people that actually come out to support the president it go inside the courtroom than they come outside to where a lot of the press is gathered. they make statements. a lot of what you heard in they're calling the trial of farce saying this shouldn't be happening in the first place, not so much getting into the facts of the case in specifics, but more so talking about at a large-scale d, do not believe this case in trial should be happening and look, this is happening on camera. almost knowing that this will be seen at some point. and so likely this dynamic is not going away, especially as we make our way to closing arguments next week and even more so, once we get to when you verdict time, anderson, her morgan minutes. >> thanks so much still to come. arizona officials finally
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doctors preferred better science, better results i melies nonna in washington, and this is cnn we're breaking news this time involving the foreign presence classified documents, case. these images were part of a newly unsealed filing late today. they're the first time we see what is clearly trump aide and co-defendant walt nauta moving boxes around mar-a-lago the photos are dated june 1 in 2022 prosecutors say that despite a subpoena for documents, not move these boxes around, keeping them from trump's attorney, who is required to conduct a search in response to the subpoena they say it's proof of an alleged conspiracy to conceal classified material from federal investigators, evan perez joins us now from florida with the latter it is so what are you learning from these newly unsealed documents what anderson, these are a hundreds of documents that until now, we have not seen the judge releasing them today.
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>> and what we're seeing though, is more of what prosecutors say is evidenced of the obstruction by the former president and by his co-defendants, including of course walt nauta his his close aide, one of the things we learned from these documents, anderson, is that there was a search that was conducted in late 2022 and during that search people working for for the former president's legal team, they found a he document that appear to be classified, the had labeled classified in the president's the former president's bedroom in mar-a-lago. the document was had a title according to this, it was mostly empty folder and it said it read classified evening summary. there were four additional documents that were found in an office also at mar-a-lago and along the lines of that obstruction, we can throw out those images again of what nauta that's images that prosecutors say showed what
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nauta moving boxes again after the trump team had received a subpoena for them to turn over these documents moving these documents ahead of a perched i was being conducted by evan corcoran, who at the time was the former president's attorney, and all of this, of course, was because prosecutors wanted to force corcoran to testify, to provide testimony, and also to provide documents as part of this investigation, anderson, there are also some notable comments. i understand made by a federal judge in washington before the foreign president was indicted. what did she say well, that's right. part of the fight here was to try to get approval from the judge for the extraordinary step to force the former president's attorney to come in and provide testimony to the grand jury. >> and what she said it was was this. she said that prosecutors had shown sufficient evidence that the former president had used person 18. that's evan corcoran as part of a front person to conceal documents and
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to obstruct this investigation. she said that there was strong evidence of the former president's knowledge that there were classified documents being stored at my logo, even though he claimed that he did not know anderson. >> every perez. thanks very much. now to another legal cases time involving the foreign presence, allies. rudy giuliani and ten others today pleaded not guilty to charges of conspiring to overturn the 2020 presidential election in the state of arizona includes christina bobb, who now serves as the rnc's top lawyer for election integrity today, arraignment comes after julie to duck attempts by arizona officials to serve him with a summons which backfired after they found him based on his podcast, can lives more is that me yes. >> at you, mr. giuliani, i'm just calling the case. >> that's how court started for rudy giuliani is arraignment in the arizona fake electors case, voting in his not guilty plea, giuliani represented himself striking a defiant and familiar tone,
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consider this i a complete embarrassment to the american legal system. i don't want to mute you, but i need to move on. >> giuliani was among 11 or reigned in this hearing 18 overall are indicted in the case which traces back to this moment, 2020 electors from arizona, when fake electors gathered in a room shortly after the 2020 the election, signing documents that donald trump won arizona, even though joe biden one there now charged in arizona with conspiring to overturn the 2020 election including former arizona republican party chair kelly ward and her husband and christina bobb. current election integrity council at the rnc and former personality on conservative outlet oan, all pleading not guilty. >> the arraignment went as-planned and we'll deal with the case. >> let did not go as planned getting rudy giuliani to action actually appear for the arraignment arizona attorney general, kris mayes. we had
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attempted on multiple occasions in multiple ways to serve mr. giuliani, the arizona ag's office tried for three weeks america's mayor who bounces from new york to florida, taunted arizona's prosecutors behind his podcast microphone, that if their income but they can find me, they also can't count votes correctly prosecutors say their agents were in new york trying to deliver giuliani notice to appear in arizona court immediately after the indictment was released, publicly no was sent down to the doorman, not to allow anyone up to his penthouse and manhattan, my agent's attempted to serve the summons. >> there were refused entry into the building thank to serve that summons, then giuliani popped up in florida i live streaming his 80th birthday party in palm beach alongside trump loyalists have posting this selfie surrounded by friends, taunting
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authorities, writing in part can't find me brands the former mayor of new york, serenading guest levs shortly after the song ended. >> but two agents from the ag's office, we're waiting outside and served him court papers the arizona attorney general replied to giuliani's tweet. the final defendant was served moments ago. rudy rudygiuliani. nobody is above the law rudy giuliani has made numerous statements over the past past month discussing the indictment, his co-defendants and quite frankly mocking the justice system in arizona giuliani was ordered by the court to appear in person within 30 days and post a $10,000 bond. >> despite his arguments in court, there is no history of my being a flight, which is the basis for sale. i think it'd be outrageous that you set upon in this in this completely and
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just completely political case prosecutors say. there is a notable difference between how giuliani has acted and approach this entire case versus the rest of the defendants who are named in this indictment. >> and there are still a handful anderson who have yet to appear for the arraignment. that is going to be happening next month. some notable people, mark meadows and bores epstein anderson, yummy law. thanks very much up next the video post on the foreign presence, social media site, referring to creating a unified reich. what his campaign was saying about it. now the economy booms. american energy high. >> it's christina again, i'm here to tell you about an all new special offer from my friends at jacuzzi bathroom model that you don't want to miss? you already know jacuzzi has been making water-filled great for more than 65 years. and now they're bringing you this special tv offer. were
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now the word right is german, it means regime or empire, but of course, most closely associated with nazi germany in the creation of a third reich that caught many people's attention online, but not mr. trump or his campaign. apparently, the video was not removed until just this morning. here's the portion of the video on question what happens after donald trump wins what's next for america there you can see text unified reich and you see it again at the end of the video faintly under the words mega a trump campaign spokesperson released a statement today saying, quote, this was not a campaign video, was created by a random account online. and reposted by a staffer who clearly did not see the word? no explanation why it took them so long to remove the video and the controversy, of course, is not happening in a vacuum. in november 2022, the former president hosted white nationalist and holocaust denier nick fuentes at mar-a-lago in 2017, when white supremacist chanted, jews will not replace us at charlottesville. then president trump said this mr. are you had
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some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine, people on both sides and today, prison biden posted this response to the new video, posted by his 2024 opponent a unified reich. >> that's settlers language, that's not america's join his now a cnn political commentators, van jones, who worked in the obama white house and less far griffin, who is part of the trump white house. how does this happen? >> well, it shouldn't happen, but unfortunately it appears there's some sort of epidemic of young staffers who wade into nazi language has happened on the desantis campaign as well. listen, donald trump's not doing dog whistles anymore. it's a bull horn when it comes to race. um, he also today when after judge more sean's saying, look at where he's from referring to him being born in colombia. there was a long track record, i think think the clearest cases you mentioned is dining with a noted neo-nazi
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nick fuentes this it was the right thing for the trump campaign to at least try to create distance from this statement. but here's the thing. joe biden is right to call it out. joe biden's given strong remarks condemning antisemitism in a moment when it's on the rise nationally and globally. but the problem is the moment is very different than 2020 hey, joe biden ran after charlottesville. he said that is what inspired him to run to restore the soul of this nation right now, a lot of americans in the center see liberal college campuses were anti-semitism is running rampant and it's not being condemned, then they see this language and also today at the courtroom, trump saying things like jews need to get their heads chat if they vote for democrats they may not know where to fall. it's a moment that calls for leadership. joe biden has a duty to keep calling it out. but if he caters too much to his left, i don't know where voters fall on this issue. >> then what do you make it this post and do by the trump campaign explanation, the stafford didn't see it well, i don't buy it just because it happens over and over again. this is not the first time that trump bird or the trump campaign has reposted or
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retweeted horrific stuff, awful stuff in often from accounts that have even worst stuff on the accounts and so listen, the first time this happens, maybe it's an oop. see, the second time maybe it's an easy. but you've got a strand of people in the trump orbit who are looking for stuff in the wrong places at best there's nothing on my feet. are your fee? that's referee referring to any rajesh or anything? like that. so this is a problem inside the trump campaign, is a problem inside the trump coalition. listen, if you're jewish in america right now, you're seeing, you're uncomfortable. you're seeing signs on the left and of the right of a growing anti-semitism that's true, but it doesn't start at the top in our party. you got some kids on tiktok i grew might be getting caught up in some stuff. they need to be a lot smarter about how they address these issues. but you're talking about the top of the party. you're talking about donald trump himself, his account over and over again, sitting down with
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fuentes and all these people. this is not even close between the two parties where the real threat is coming from. >> manu raju who asked some senate republicans de and trump allies about the video. here's what they said the former present post something on social media about a quote unified reich. >> and as generated, generated some criticism. i don't know. i'm sorry. i don't follow. in case you hadn't noticed the world's falling apart have you not noticed that there's also a central campaign the former president posted on social media media calling for a unified reich. >> i'm wondering if you have concerns about that any concerns about the former president posted a unified reich and social media i mean, obviously, you've, of course, the biden campaign had posted this. it would be yeah. that'd be stopping and talking would be front and center on i mean, listen, it goes from this video with donald trump and i think that's where it gets more uncomfortable for republicans to dodge questions. >> donald trump's been using rhetoric on the campaign trail
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saying that immigrants poison the blood of americans that is literally invoking hitler, esq., language. >> i think that, well, this video, it deserves to be called out. >> it's smart of the biden campaign. there needs to be a more steady effort to just point to this sort of anti-immigrant anti-semitic rhetoric that donald trump spin leaning into because it's a moment that calls for leadership and it's going to need to be beyond just joe biden. you need other leaders speaking out event. i one for prison. biden and certainly problematic, i guess. a lot of people in the country just kind of in the media probably just kinda shrug this thing off and say this. is what they do. are you know, it doesn't, it doesn't amount to much i mean, i'm part of the problem is you do have in donald trump he survived so many of these things that, you know, it's almost a part of his brand now. >> it's, it's got a brand that sort of inquiry great. really horrific, awful stuff. and people don't take it seriously. but when you talk to
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people from countries that have lost their democracy we talked to people from iran and other places. they say, you know what, you have to take, stuff like this, very, very seriously because when you, when you normalize hatred, when you normalize contempt for democracy, when you normalized playing footsie with extremist elements, dangerous elements, violent elements that sets the stage for worst things later. so people should not ever fail to be outraged by outrageous stuff. and don trump and jones less for griffin. thank you. coming up the singapore airlines flight that left one person dead, several more injured after hitting extreme turbulence when likely cause the situation next water would
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ultimately diverted to bangkok, seen as richard quest has to tell us singapore airlines flight 321 was nearing the ten hour mark, and passengers were getting ready to eat breakfast. suddenly the plane encountered extreme turbulence over the year. why do you basin in myanmar that extreme turbulence left one person dead and dozens of people injured it led to the pioneer declaring a medical emergency and diverted the aircraft to bangkok. emergency crews setup trash before passengers arrived. they watched the triple seven lands smoothly and taxi normally down the runway. then the medics carried severely injured passengers on stretchers while shaken passengers were escorted off the plane by emergency workers. video from inside the aircraft shows the aftermath of the horror the passengers experienced that 37,000 feet.
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the ceiling broke open, oxygen masks deployed throughout the aircraft luggage compartments collapsed. the food, drinks and other trash strewn on the floor and i can deploy out the plane landed at the airport and the medical team was sent to the scene. >> many injuries occurred. so the airport had to issue an emergency plan all our teams went to help and also found one man had died mike, goodbye. this kind of incident rarely happens where there is death after a plane has hit with severe turbulence the hospital in bangkok reported that six people are severely injured. >> the deceased was a 73 year-old british man who suffered from a heart condition in a statement, singapore's president expressed couldn't do it concerns to the family and loved ones of the deceased and the singaporean authorities. and now sending investigators to bangkok boeing, which manufactures the triple seven. when he's a statement saying
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science, better results. >> i'm elizabeth wagmeister in los angeles in this during years are reporting from frontlines of conflicts bestselling author and filmmaker sebastian younger has seen a lot of death but a few years ago, he had his own medical emergency and came close to die. >> you experience something he had never had before he writes about it. and the science behind near-death experiences in a new book out today called in my time of dying as someone who spends a lot of time thinking about loss and death and grief i found your book extraordinary and it's starts with this pivotal moment. you have an aneurysm you i mean by all rights, should not have survived i mean, there's very you had a very near-death experience and your father came to you yeah. >> i mean, i'm an atheist i'm not mistake in any sense. my
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father was a physicist and an atheist. >> and i'm in good health. and when i felt this pain in my abdomen i just didn't know what i didn't know. i was dying. i no reason to think i was dying when i was bleeding out into my abdomen i lost two thirds of my blood and they barely saved me my blood pressure was 60 over 40 when i finally got to the one you were living far away from the hospital and it was like a long drive to what our what our drive to the hospital. i was 60 over 40. i needed ten units of blood. and while they were putting a large gauge needle into my neck to transfuse me through my jugular this black void opened up underneath me and i felt myself getting pulled into it. i had no idea i was dying. not but i knew this wasn't good and i started to panic that i was going to get pulled into this pit and never come back as i panicked my dead father appeared above me and communicated to me in this sort of weird energy form. it's hard to describe. >> did you see him i see is two clear. right. i mean, he was suddenly his presence was there
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and i felt that i recognize that i saw it in a sense my mind, i had lost two-thirds of my blood. my mind was not doing well. right. but there he was all of a sudden and he communicated to me. it's okay. don't fight it. i'll take care of you. you can come with me. >> and i was horrified because i didn't know i was dying and i was like, you're dead i'm not going with you. we have nothing talking about. right? >> and i said to the doctor because i'm still conscious. i said to the doctor, you gotta hurry. >> i'm going you're losing me. >> i'm going right now and you knew that that's what that was. >> they knew i was going there, you know, that was i knew i was going somewhere. >> you have seen a lot of death in your life. >> i mean, the work in combat you do, you lost a close friend of you, heather actin, photographer you've seen people die. >> did did how is this different what did you learn here that you i mean, i've
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almost been killed. >> the number of times but i didn't experience what it feels like to be dying right. and what it felt like was that i was crossing over into this infinite void and my father showed up to take me and i can't tell you. i mean, what a thing to do an atheist, right? like, i can't tell you how disorienting, i mean, how do you think your father feels? yeah, exactly like you dragged me into this, right? and so i can't believe i'm doing this. >> no, i've right and so when i got home, i had a lot of psychological troubles when i got home, among other things, because i'd had a dream 36 hours prior that i had died and then i was a ghost and i was hovering over my family and i woke up terrified, dismissed it. >> that was sort of a premonition of what was about to happen? yes. 36 hours before. and so i got this parent. i do paranoid idea. maybe because my dream was an exactly sort of mde in near-death experience as reported by many, many people. and i thought maybe i actually did die then and now a much spirit and i just don't know
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it, like i really did a head trip on myself. but what i went into was my father's world of physics and there's some serious questions the what if parts of my book, what is, what happened to me if is what if there were something more that we don't understand and i'm not talking god, i'm just talking about reality and existence what if at this quantum level, the subatomic level? there is some enduring aspect of our identities you mentioned this, you had a post medical trauma reaction. yeah what is that? because that's not talked about very much. no, it's not and it's in the profession. >> it's a fairly well-known thing so if you almost die like i did in a way where your own body betrays you suddenly like, i mean, i was in good health. i mean, i know i'm not going to drop dead of a heart attack or a stroke. i'm like, i don't have those risk factors. right? >> so out of the blue, suddenly i feel a pain and i'm dying.
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and when that happens, you don't trust anything and you think every day, every morning, you think this could be this again, could be my last day. you just don't know. and i got so sort of weirded out about it that i said to my wife, can you just tell me i'm alive? like that. i'm not a ghost. can you just affirm? >> and she said, of course, you're right here. i'm here in my mind. i'm like that's just the kind of thing i hallucination would say. like i would just playing games with myself. and so i then after the incredible anxiety of like i could die any de not all of us could right after that i got out of that and eventually settled into this really crazy depression. i've never been depressed or anxious before and i was it was a bullet talk about a black pit. i mean, i was actually worried for myself and my wife finally said, honey, you're getting a little hard to live with. can you go talk to somebody and it helped enormously. i mean, i did talk and feel my way out of this thing, but it took a long time in are you better for having
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had this experience yeah. >> do you are you i mean, this may sound weird, but i mean, are you grateful for this experience? >> well, but yeah, bye, bye. wife wife ever wise said to me at some point as i was freaking myself out, she's like, are you are you do you feel lucky or unlucky that this happened? i'm not that you survived, of course, you're lucky that you survived, but that it happened at all. like if you could push a button and have it not happened, would you push that button? it really she was asking like it was this a blessing or a curse in your life? five. >> and i know how to answer, and i finally looked up the word blessing, the etymology of the word blessing and it comes from the anglo-saxon word blood xian, which means blood and the idea was that there is no blessing without a sacrifice. that there is no blessing without a wound. and i think possibly that, and i'm again, i'm saying this as an atheist, but i feel free to that there's maybe no wound without
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some sort of blessing. you just have to find it. when i thought about it in those terms, bled blood xian, the old word for flight when i thought about it in those terms, is released me from this. i was like that's just how it works. you don't get anything for free and it is a blessing and it came with a wound and here i am, and i'm a lot wiser. i'm a lot calmer. and frankly, i appreciate everything more it's such a cliche, but it actually did kind of work that way. it was like taking antidepressants or something like, oh i'm back here i am and i'm really alive now especially. >> thank you so much, especially in younger the book is called in my time of dying, how i came face-to-face with the idea of an afterlife. by sebastian younger the news continues right here on cnn outright next, what to tell the jury. >> the prosecution butting heads with the defense and the trump trial over what it all comes down to. >> how the jury will determine guilty or innocent. >> those details, just breaking