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have to find it. when i thought about it in those terms, bled blood xian, the old word for flight when i thought about it in those terms, is released me from this. i was like that's just how it works. you don't get anything for free and it is a blessing and it came with a wound and here i am, and i'm a lot wiser. i'm a lot calmer. and frankly, i appreciate everything more it's such a cliche, but it actually did kind of work that way. it was like taking antidepressants or something like, oh i'm back here i am and i'm really alive now especially. >> thank you so much, especially in younger the book is called in my time of dying, how i came face-to-face with the idea of an afterlife. by sebastian younger the news continues right here on cnn outright next, what to tell the jury. >> the prosecution butting heads with the defense and the trump trial over what it all comes down to. >> how the jury will determine guilty or innocent. >> those details, just breaking
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as i speak. plus one dead and seven critically injured after a boeing triple seven hits, man passive turbulence wasn't just the edges of a thunderstorm that causes deadly dropping out to 2d. we will take you inside boeing simulator and we are five in tehran just arriving on the ground thousand spilling into the streets extensively to mourn the death of their president has conspiracy theories grow louder tonight? >> let's go out front and good evening. i'm erin burnett outfront tonight. >> the battle behind closed doors for more than two hours to trump legal team debated with prosecutors over instructions to the jury and these instructions are obviously the key to the verdict. they are going to explain to the jury what those individuals have to do, specifically to find trump guilty or innocent, or to convict him on 34 criminal charges. trump's team pressing the judge to instruct the jury that hush money is not illegal. well, that's true, but prosecutors firing back saying well, that's your job accusing
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the defense of wanted the judge to make their closing arguments for and outside of court as all of this was going on for hours and hours today, trump made it personal chapters. >> take a look at take a look at where it comes from. >> good stead again, he's allowed to do that. >> that is consistent with the gag order. he's allowed to say things about the judge closing arguments now are scheduled for a week from today, next tuesday, and in the interim time, the jury will be at home with friends and family during the holiday weekend and we know at least one of them going to an airport and, you know, all sorts of television screens like cnn on in that airport, talking about the trial what the judge is asking of the 12 jurors and six alternates is virtually impossible because the judge said today, and i quote from the transcript because we did get it just a bit ago. >> please do not talk either among yourselves it's or to anyone else about anything
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related to the case. do not visit our view any of the locations discussed in the testimony do not review or listened to any accounts or discussions of the case, please do not communicate with anyone about the case by any means, any lists, whether that's text or anything else, and do not google or otherwise search for any information about the case i mean, that is incredibly tall order, just the modern world, you are assaulted with information about the case when the jury does finally get this case, they are behind closed doors to deliberate, likely not until next wednesday after those closing arguments conclude. >> what will happen then? how quickly will they render a verdict after such a long break now this is interesting. so when you try to look at this, you look back at a number of other high high-profile cases this one obviously it historically precedent breaking case, but other high-profile cases, deliberation is often very swift, often just hours in the oj simpson case bass he was acquitted by jurors who deliberate, abraded, yes. and four hours after months and months and months of a trial samuel bankman-fried found guilty on all counts and his
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cryptocurrency fraud trial. it only took him three hours. casey anthony, that was a murder trial, not guilty and less than 11 hours. >> george zimmerman. remember that not guilty and 16 hours. >> so that was of course, that would be two days as for trump himself, two of his companies were found guilty on multiple charges of criminal tax fraud and falsifying business records by a manhattan jury in the same courtroom as this one. judge merchan also provide presiding and that verdict took less than ten hours. so could we see a verdict in these sorts of timeframes that would be next week. engine grasses outfront live outside the new york courthouse and brynn, the other thing is court was originally scheduled for this thursday. if they were going to be working wednesday, thursday, friday, maybe you'd have a verdict this week but now everything is pushed off until next week. why did the judge decide to do that yeah. >> erin, the judge really choosing to push it off so that there is a clear runway for these deliberations to happen for the jurors, although he did hint in court that this break
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in time, of course, not ideal the hush money trial of donald trump will soon be in the hands of a jury we have without hearing from the defendant, at least in the courtroom that proven there is no prime instead, jurors will be left with the key moments from the prosecution's three star witnesses michael cohen, the former trump fixer and prosecution's star witness, spending 17 hours on the stand testifying. he paid adult film actress stormy daniel's quote, at the direction of donald j. trump. and for the benefit of donald j. trump to cover up their alleged affair which trump denies cohen said he paid the money to ensure that the story would not come out, would not affect mr. trump's chances of becoming president of the united states in fierce cross-examination that trump defense got cohen to admit he
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has at times bint a liar and a thief also bringing up text messages and phone calls questioning cohen's motives, including a tense confrontation between cohen and defense attorney todd blanche over text messages cohen sent to trump's bodyguard, keith schiller on october 24, 24, 2016. cohen had told prosecutors that he had reached out to schiller to speak with trump about the daniels payment, but under cross-examination, blanche read cohen a text sent minutes before the call. cohen texted schiller, who can i speak to regarding harassing calls to my cell and office, the dope forgot to block his number schiller texted back soon after call me the exchange key as prosecutors need to prove trump knew about the payments and violated campaign finance laws by authorizing them, prosecutors highlighting a different call cohen made to stormy daniels, attorney keith davidson when cohen expressed referring to trump. i can't even tell you how many times he said said to me, you know, i hate the fact that we did it earlier in the prosecution's
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case, david pecker, the former chief of the national enquirer, who called trump a mentor pecker explaining how he worked with cohen to catch and kill salacious stories about trump, which defense attorneys painted as just usual business stormy daniels may have been the testimony that angered trump the most, that she walked jurors through her alleged affair in vivid detail, daniels explained how cohen's interest in her story skyrocketed automatically attracted to beautiful, i just kissing them after the infamous access hollywood tape and discussions about payments began days before the election shin they were interested in paying for the story daniel set of cohen and trump defense attorneys painted daniels as money hungry and driven by a hatred of the former president. am i correct that you hate president trump? trump's attorney asked, yes, daniels replied, you want him to go to jail if he is found guilty? absolutely. daniels responded at the end of the day today, the judge telling both the prosecution and the defense
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that he will be giving his final draft of these jury instructions to the lawyers at the end of a thursday. >> that's going to give both sides the long weekends her right. those closing arguments, how they're going to summarize their entire cases to this jury. aaron harb brand. thank you very much. and our experts with us tonight marco meira. and would you start with you you served as defense attorney on obviously extremely high high-profile criminal cases. this is george zimmerman's among them so now we're looking at tuesday, the jury is going to be off for a week, won't be in deliberations for more than a week long holiday weekend. impossible to not hear about this case. and some way shape and form as they go about their lives what's your reaction? >> i think it's very problematic. i think the idea of not in these jury is not having some type of infection, which is what it will be into their deliberations by what they're going to hear for the next week that inner of itself, it's very problematic. i sort of thought when i first heard it, it's going to be a week that maybe they would be sequestered and they're not
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they're going home. so that's one problem. >> the other problem is it's supposed to go trial. >> here are the instructions decide the case and just having a week in between, you lose job, you forget stuff, you rearrange up in your brain. >> i think it's very problematic. >> there were waiting a week before this jury does with they've been waiting to do to begin of the trial, which is their job to decide the fate. >> i mean, in arlo just to i want to put aside for a second what they are going to hear and see over the next week. there's also the reality that after week goes by, you do forget a lot, yet closing arguments, but we just spent weeks listening to testimony that every day, what about this high on transcripts? >> so if they actually are going to print through and read it, you're looking at i'm just making the point that's reasonable to expect that they're going to do that but this is, this is what's going to happen you're away for week, you're going to forget all of this. >> yeah. well, i guess first of all, i'd say that i think the prosecution got the better of today because the defense is last witness, costello really uploaded and became a
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prosecution witness. so that was a great note. i think to go out with for them for them. i do think that the jury will be okay on that respect notwithstanding a week, i mean, i think the job anyway of the sides in summation is going to be to take all of that complicated stuff that even if you had get what you heard, we're gonna give you the cliff's notes, go with that. >> it's not just the cliff notes for the prosecution. it's even harder. it's marrying the story that they told the jury and the openings. but what was the crime? now they're going to have to marry up all that evidence into the framework where when judge instructs the jury on what the legal charges are, the prosecutor fusion can get that in. >> all right. so chair, you have been in that courtroom every single day. so you've been watching the jury and you've been watching how closely and attentive they've been. but you have concern as you as you take a step back now that there could end up a mistrial here. >> absolutely. i mean, they are listening to all of the evidence, the testimony they're looking at the dock he comment.
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and i think they will remember at the end of the day what went on and i know that the prosecutors will sum up and tie the dots together as resolute defense. but the jury themselves, they're going to all have to come together and i think i think we can't predict what they're going to do. but if i had to guess right now, getting 12 people to agree that donald trump intentionally falsified these records to influence the election. we have the records, but do we have all of that intent? yes, we have cohen and yes, we have him saying that so he said do this. but we don't have anything from trump himself and that i think is missing. and it could very well be that one person holds out and that means it's a mistrial. >> and that's all you need because they went to up this to a criminal trial. you just need one. >> you just need one. but that's to acquit. i mean, never mind the hot diminish trial or hung jury, there's already these are even other issues without questions. so obviously the way it works is that you
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have to have 12. they need to be unanimous with respect to their finding. if you have one, then it's a mistrial. i think prosecutors will try their level best not to make it. and this will be a battle of the narratives to be clear, you mentioned erin. yes, there's they'd lay over to mock them ours point that's very problematic, but it's the job of the lawyers to remind you what you saw, what you heard, and what is your duty to do. that's what closing arguments about. and i believe that they're going to come out both sides swinging with respect to the narrative. and here's what i think briefly, you'll hear from the prosecution's perspective, bills try to minimize the significance of cohen and remind the jury that everything else tells you that trump was involved. everything else tells you he would have the motivation to be involved with respect to access hollywood and on the heels of that, what allowing stormy daniels took them out. and by the way, karen mcdougal, the playboy model he knew about that. he wouldn't know about this. and also the sharpie and the pens and the check. they're going to make it very clear and they're going to say prosecution wants to make this about a phone call and whether we're not as bodyguard, what
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let's not just talk about the phone call. let's talk about all the other opportunities to know on the alternative side, i think the defense is going to make it all about cohen. if you don't believe cohen, you can't convict. he's a liar, he's achieved, he's a bp still those money he has hatred for the president. and so those are the narratives and the prosecution can craft it around the issue. all of your common sense and good judgment. they'll have done their job and yet marc you have amidst all of this, what you're asking a jury to do? which is to convict a former president of a crime which has never before been done. i mean, this is this is a whole different level of burden in that jury room, isn't it is going to be very, very difficult to get any top unanimity in a case like this, we'd know that on average half of the people in their trump's supporters, that's not an insult or degrading then half of them are democrats supporters. >> but when you going to tell us six of those people, let's say we'll just a couple convict the former president
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who you are in favor of being the next president convicted of a felony, making him ineligible to do exactly what you want. unfortunately, it's gonna be almost impossible for them that to happen with this unanimity that's required. properly. shelves were criminal conviction i think is very, very difficult. this case has a greater chance of mistrial in any of the ones we have seen, you have covered with past couple of years among over i thought it's going to be difficult, even the trump's civil trial i thought was going to be difficult. they composite there this is going could be tough for getting a unanimous verdict, right. and i mean, even if you look at just the voter registration manhattan, that jury would have a trump supporter on it. i know trump likes to say that it's an anti-trump story, but the reality of it is statistically, there would be trump's scores on that jury arlo okay. so the closing statements themselves could take more than a day, according to the judge. >> that is it's a long time to sit and really absorb information for anyone yeah absolutely and i think there
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might be a temptation for both sides to make them longer than they need to be. >> because that doesn't help tours either the longer they're up there, the more the jurors are going to expect every moment of it to be something that really influences them and impacts their view with the case so it's about i think having your most effective points, getting out the key facts, getting out the theories, and just one thing in response to what joey said, the defense this is absolutely going to focus on how cohen is a devious dishonest, terrible person, a terrible lawyer, and the prosecution in rebuttal is going to look at trump and say, you know what this is, the man that hired him and why do you think that is? yeah. and so that's sort of the back-and-forth. >> and terry, what i know sitting in that room, you watched jurors and sometimes i would i would play the game for lack of a better phrase of watching one and sort of watching them in various moments and watch just to get a better feel. now you've had so many hours and days in that courtroom what's your read on how long it takes them to
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return a verdict or if it ends up in a mistrial, just as you see their sort of because over time there were some interactions it's between them. not at first, but then there were there'll they sort of got to know each other. a lack of a better word. >> i think they're going to come back relatively fast. i think two to five hours maybe. i think they already know either verdict or a mistrial with either a verdict or mr. that's right. i think we're going to go around and take a straw poll and they're going to say, where are you and they'll see how many are all ready in agreement. and then they'll talk about the evidence in really they've only got 34 counts to look at and they're all the same. and the question is, was this intentional? i think they're going to go back to the testimony and as joy was mentioning, tying those dots together as to whether or not, you he uses a sharp your whether or not he's a micrometer manager, didn't know what he was doing and i don't think it's going to take them that long. >> all right. well, thank you all very much next, we're going to hear from a passenger who was on board that boeing triple seven, that's suddenly plunged hundreds of feet and just seconds drops so
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katie bell lilla in washington and vif tonight thunderstorms, that is what could have caused this boeing triple seven operated by singapore airlines to drop hundreds of feet in about a minute and a half, 90 seconds turbulence, so violent and horrifying one man is dead and seven others are still in critical condition tonight. more than 70 are injured. >> they're broken bones, head injuries. >> people were bleeding from their ears and noses. and in a moment, i'm going to speak to a passenger who was on that
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flight. you see him here on your screen live. andrew davies is going to be he with me. >> this as we understand it still unclear what caused the plane to experience such severe turbulence. >> the satellite images that i have on the screen right now show thunderstorms forming in the area near the plane. not exactly where it was and not actually active yet, but forming i want to show you then those abrupt movements that i referenced. here's an animation showing exactly what happened. the plane makes them extremely violent maneuvers up and down, and then suddenly dropping dramatically. it climbs again. it some of them we understand to do somersaults in the air, all of this happening in just seconds. ivan watson is in bangkok tonight. that is where the singapore airlines plane made its emergency landing. and he is outfront injuries and death after several minutes of terror, more than 30,000 feet in the sky a singapore airlines with severe turbulence,
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throwing passengers and crew throughout the cabin ten hours into the flight the incident was so rough, lighting and ventilation tubing fill out of the ceiling, food trays from breakfast littered across the floor emergency workers raced the bangkok's when they international airport on tuesday afternoon after the flight turned deadly traffic control on the tarmac. quick to redirect ambulances and set up a makeshift medical tents for injured passengers flight sq321 departed from london and was on route to singapore, but severe turbulence forced pilots to make an emergency landing in thailand a 73 year-old british man, geoff kitchen died on board the flight at least seven others were in critical condition with dozens more injured and 19, the plane
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landed at the airport and the medical team were sent to the scene, investigator, many injuries occurred. so the airport had to issue an emergency plan. all our teams went to hello to the airline has launched an investigation into the incident with the british embassy also deploying officials to support those who's in hospital the passengers left with the question of how this all went so wrong now, aaron, a special relief flight has landed safely in singapore. >> it was carrying but 131 of the original 211 passengers from this stricken singapore airlines flight sq 321. we know that more than 70 of the passengers and crew, i have been hospitalized here in bangkok after the plane had to make this emergency landing here. that's nearly a third of all the passengers and crew that were originally on board
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the plane just giving you a sense of how how many people were hurt it during this period of violent turbulence. the investigation is underway. the damaged aircraft is here. we've learned that there is a team from the us national defense let's protection safety board on the way to come and investigate this, to try to figure out what could have caused this with, especially with singapore airlines a regional airline that has an enviable safety record back to you, erin? >> yes, certainly one of the best, if not the best. and in every record and safety survey around the world. thank you so much, ivan. i want to go now to andrew davies. he was on that plane andrew look horrific ordeal. i i'm so glad you're okay. i spoke to you briefly before you and i were here on air together. >> but can you just tell all of us what happened? >> i mean, you're ten hours in i would imagine people are relaxing your mid-flight. i mean, no one's expecting
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anything what happened well, i mean, you quiet right. >> i mean, i travel a lot. i travel of the business so i do a lot of transatlantic flights as working in austin, texas, just just a few weeks ago. in fact i was heading from london to wellington on business. the flight was perfectly normal. i mean, just nothing unusual at all. it is it had some foods is quite smoothing factor don't remember any turbulence at all. then as you say about 9:10 hours into the flight, i was watching a movie and i had my headphones on, so i didn't hear any announcements, but the disaster all the seatbelt sign come on, sway the diligence put my seat belt on. >> thank goodness i did because within moments of doing that all hell broke loose. the plane just felt like clocks it probably only lasted a few seconds, but i remember vividly
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seeing shoes and ipads and iphones and cushions and blankets and cook clean plates and cups flying through the air, crushing to the ceiling the gentleman next to me had a cup of coffee which went straight all over me and an up to the ceiling gosh, it just it just even imagine that when you mentioned the seat belt that you put it on and thank goodness you had the, you know, the second or so to do that we know more than 70 people are injured. >> there's broken bones, there's serious injury seven and critical condition what did you see me where people literally flying around at some point or these somersaults in the air that have been described i didn't see that firsthand. the else issue right. to the funds facing the bulkheads, so i didn't see that personally. as soon as the plane settled off, i kind of made tried to make a joke and be late conversation with the
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gentleman next to me who was also shaken, but there's so much screaming and it was when it's actually i realize the gravity of it when i looked over my shoulder and soul the people sitting behind me with a lady who had a big gash in her head and blood pouring down her face. and then as we know, gentlemen passed away. and that change from sitting right behind me the plane had settled off, it leveled off, so i got up and obviously lots of people needed some help, but we'd be tended to this gentleman and i helped carry him, get him out of the seat and we lay on the floor. so that's some medical professionals could could administer cpr whilst they were doing that, which they he gave him cpr for at least 20 minutes i ran around and just got people blankets and cushions and bought and did what i could really helped i guess one thing for me was i was sitting in premium economy is in one small
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part of the cabin and i only saw what's happening in that small section. i've heard since that some awful things happened in business class and economy class. just as it got to the hotel just now that the economy class those seats coming loose and panels coming off the ceiling, the oxygen masks came down the nose. i left the airplane. i looked around and it was quite, quite as seen quite as seeing coupling smashed glass on the floor. it was quite hernandez i'm andrew, the man behind you who who's died and it's just horrible thing. >> i know you talk about you all laid them down and you were trying to give cpr for more than two 20 minutes at what point did you realize that he was dead and what goes through your mind at that point, you realize that this is an incident that has killed a person it's so difficult to say i mean, it was fairly old
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fetus that he passed a muffet from the moment we be colleague onto the floor say that gave good 20 minutes of cpr and then they they pronounced in dead. they they they covered in a blanket and the the poor gentleman was was on the aisle, on the floor. so from that point onwards, it was to try and preserve as much de can see is possible in those circumstances the when we landed the plane. as your news reporter said, lots of tie medics came on board i'm guessing about 20 or so. comes swarmed on board and tended to people with lacerations and cutscenes built-in 40 the poor gentleman had at that stage gotten them. obvious for all to see. >> oh, i'm so sorry. i as you say, to try to preserve the decency, but to imagine after that i am someone is there and there someone is dead and people are in such pain you're
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saying you for sitting next to me, please. wife was sitting next to me. was she the one with the gash that you referenced? sheets? she was another one with a gas. she did have a nasty gash, very, very nasty gash on ahead and she was an elderly lady and she was in severe shock. as you'd expect there's an australian lady who was sitting next to her as well, and she comforted the widow the wife of the gentleman and was a wonderful human being and showed extraordinary kindness. in fact, a lot of people showed extraordinary kindness throughout the whole deal. everybody at the end of it in the holding area a lot of people exchange numbers. and the fifth thing can you friendships, maybe new relationships have been developed from that i can use numbers. we've been swapped and people with vowing to keep in touch and visit each other. so in some kind of way, there was a nice coming together, but yes, altogether bother her
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experience hundred did that did the pilots obviously they they were experiencing this as well. state the obvious, but they were also flying the plane. >> did they afterwards try to explain what happened or give you any sense of what caused this or or did they not i don't really recall. i don't remember them doing so. i assume that the only time i remember them speaking to us was to say there's obviously been some severe turbulence. and then when they announced we were going to bangkok the the cabin crew themselves were extraordinary. i didn't see any member of cabin crew that wasn't injured. they all every single cabin crew person i saw had had an injury of some sort. as i was leaving. there was a cabin crew lady who's sitting down with a very nasty gash to ahead leg in a bandage. there was another gentleman member of the cabin crew who was in awful
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pain with a bad back, yet he was being extremely stoic and continuing on and passing water out to people and helping the madix wherever he could. i was very impressed with the heart goes out to that actually, because they were doing job they've quite vulnerable as well because they're on the plane. they weren't seated, obviously didn't have the seat belts on because they were doing going about their duties that they were extremely vulnerable. and as i say, not one of them was uninjured that i could see andrew. >> thank you very much for taking the time to talk all of the talk through all of this and then all us a chance to understand both the horror and while the incredible human kindness that you are talking about, thank you nice fudan kearns, you very welcome. >> lead to talk to you. >> all right. you to andrew i'm glad you're well and safe. now. mark white this isn't aviation analyst. he was a former triple seven pilot for american airlines and these joining me now from inside a simulator, 7:37 simulator. but mark, i know you've explained that what you're going to show
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us and what we're seeing in here is extremely similar almost identical to the boeing cockpit. were all this took place mark when trying to understand it's interesting what andrew was saying that he doesn't remember, doesn't think the pilots came on, but it's sort of saying, well, in the sense of the trauma that everyone was going through, perhaps they did but to try to explain what happened, we don't know, but we do know that as the turbulence took place, there were thunderstorms developing, nir by nearby from what you see on the satellite images and what you just heard andrew describe does that fit for you when you have to understand that thunderstorms are a natural event, pilot school through them or not through them. but we go around whether all the time so seeing thunderstorm activity is not uncommon. you don't want to go through a thunderstorm and you really want to try and stay at least 20 miles away from them. what happened today was
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obviously a tragedy but it obviously occurred in an instant when you have to think that we're really all gets of mother nature we do our best in a cockpit to make sure that we stay away from severe weather i have here is a display in the cockpit this is a 7:37, 800 simulated here, dream arrow. >> it's very similar to what you have in the boeing triple seven what i've put on here our airports that we can go to in case of an emergency. >> and so when passengers sitting in the back and eating were watching a movie, what have you the pilots upfront are always thinking about what happens if that a particular scenario what happens if we have to divert somewhere? where are we going to go whether the pilots had timed on the pa to
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make further announcements to the passengers? >> we're just to be able to get in touch with the crew to let them know what they were going to be doing to alter the destination of the aircraft i'm not sure. but may have to understand that the first yeah. >> i'm just trying to understand, i guess from your perspective as a pilot though, what andrew described, you know, how suddenly it happened, right? he does were and i thought one thing was interesting and he was saying is a lot more people would have been injured or dead if they hadn't put that seat belt sign on at the very instant, it did come on. he put his on, others did as well. right? but obviously many people were not able to just shows the swiftness with which this all happened with the pilots in the cockpit what would their reaction have been when something like like this came out of nowhere immediately to put a seat belt sign on. >> but it's not uncommon to for the pilots to say whenever
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you seated, please keep your seat belts fastened for any unexpected turbulent once because that can't always be predicted. >> but truthfully, i mean, even the gentleman before had been talking about, he's strapped in at the very last one now that even though he was seated, it says the power of the seat belt and why you should always be strapped. >> and when you have that seat belt sign now we recognize that people have to go to the laboratory or get up and stretch legs. that's understandable. but obviously something like this. can happen in a flash as a pilot, you want to stay away from thunderstorm activity convective activity because you know, it can be disastrous and you know, a constraint at any minute. so normally seatbelt fastened all the time well, there's one thing to take away from this and i hope i know. >> i do and i'm sure everyone watching does as well, mark, thank you very much. i
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appreciate your time. next, we have some breaking news from georgia. polls are just closing there and you say polls for what? well, it's a crucial election. it is one that could sink or save georgia's case against trump. >> fani willis. >> we're live in atlanta, plus actress scarlett johansson going after tech giant opened ai, saying this voice is actually really what's applicants? ceiling though? >> are you in a cool industry, stout office or something zyrtec belief works fast and last a full 24 hours. so they can be the deliverer. >> dance okay. >> days let's be more than our allergies. sees the de with zyrtec. >> why choose asleep numbers, smart bed. can i make my sayyed softer my sayyed fermat sleep number. >> does that now see vicky percent of asleep number limited edition smart bad plus
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physicians mitchell i'm dr. sanjay gupta in london and this is cnn breaking news. >> we're getting election results from georgia. and here's what we can tell you. the two key players and trump's election subversion case are on the ballot and we are now projecting cnn projects that embattled fulton county. da fani willis, who is leading the case against the former president, will win the democratic primary. nick valencia is out front in atlanta at fani willis, his campaign headquarters. and nick, this was a crucial race obviously, if she had lost a totally different path in history here, tell us what you know? oh, now, obviously a lot
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is on the line yeah, aaron, in this primary win for fani willis comes as zero surprise to anyone that knows what's going on here. >> and fulton county, it is just a primary but well over 1 million votes are expected to be cat cats when it's all said and done according to georgia secretary of state's office and there's a lot of attention on it principally because it involved fani willis, but also what was at stake here, if she loved us the case that she's handling over the former president and 14 remaining co-defendants. she could not worry about that for a few more months. now that she's won or primaries is going to face off in november hence. gop challenger courtney kramer, who is a trump ally and an election denier talking to her allies here in the leading up to this primary de, they joked that fani willis could be de here until she's 100 years old if she wanted to. and her competitor, christian wise smith was polling in the single digits. but even still, it was clear to us that she was taking no chance chances. we caught up with her earlier today at a polling sayyed, where she was encouraging people to come out and vote. and she got people to turn out for her as it stands
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right now, this is an election year, odd only was she on the ballot, but so was the presiding judge, scott mcafee, over this case. he's expected to win, not a primary, but an election for him. he's expected to win that. he'll go on to likely continue to preside over the trump case at any minute now, we're expecting fani willis to come out and address her supporters here at her campaign headquarters were hearing some audible high fives and some cheers to those this results here that we just projected error. >> all right, neck. thank you very much. in atlanta tonight. and as the atlantic case with finding a willis is victory, obviously continues on the path that it's on there is also news in arizona and the courts, rudy giuliani has pleaded not guilty in the state of arizona, the former new york mayor and ten other trump allies were rain today for allegedly conspiring to overturn the 2020 election results in that state, which had a narrower margin of victory for biden than georgia did. giuliani, angrily pushing back in court after prosecutors detailed how he evaded his court summons for weeks, but for they'd finally tracked him down at his 80th birthday party in palm beach, florida on
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friday sara marie is outfront rudy giuliani late about the time wrong. could you making a chaotic first appearance before an arizona judge today i've been a complete embarrassment. to the american legal system, but i just shown tendency not to comply yearly. i don't want to mute you, but i need to move on. >> trump's former attorney pleading not guilty to allegations he took partner conspiracy to try to overturn the 2020 election results in a state. joe biden won by more than 10,000 votes. >> now arizona is a state that we're looking at very, very carefully. >> according to the indictment, giuliani's spread false claims of election fraud pressured local officials to change the election outcome and was responsible for encouraging republican electors in arizona. and six other contested states. now he faces charges in tuesday's arizona and georgia giuliani denouncing there
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arizona indictment calling it part of the destroyed donald trump and only appearing in court after a wild goose chase to deliver his summons. >> our agents had traveled to new york city to try to serve him. we were not allowed in his building there where he lives. we stayed there for two days. we mailed him a letter. we we made phone calls in the courtroom. >> a prosecutor highlighted giuliani's taunts on social media as officials tried to serve him yeah posted the twitter on friday night as you can see, it's a picture from his 80th birthday party in palm beach, florida. if arizona authorities can't find me by tomorrow morning, one, they must dismiss it indictment two, they must concede. they can't come both right after his 80th birthday party giuliani was served. >> i haven't been hiding from anyone. >> his antics prompting a judge to order him to post a $10,000 bond given his latest twitter posts and then his life about
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communicating with our office, we decided to be appropriate to ask for some kind of release conditions to ensure his appearance in arizona, also pleaded not guilty. today for steam bob, who is accused of lobbying arizona's gop legislators to disregard the popular vote in arizona now serves as senior counsel for election integrity for the republican national committee. >> the arraignment went as-planned and you let the case nine others who served as pro-donald trump fake electors in arizona also entered not guilty pleas please. >> quite not guilty on all counts it was just such an unusual de in court for what is normally a quick and uneventful proceeding giuliani didn't have a lawyer. >> he said he was fine too represent himself, although we pointed out yet and actually seeing the indictment against him, and we did not as he saw, there, have a mug shot yet of rudy giuliani. the judge says, he has 30 days to show up in arizona for processing, so we would expect that we will get the mug shot from him whenever
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he does. aaron. >> alright. sara, thank you. >> and i want to go now to the former republican congressman ken buck, who is also a former federal prosecutor, was with both of those both perspectives. >> congressman rudy giuliani tonight pleading not guilty to help trump overturn the 2020 election results in arizona appearing in court today. along with nine of the 11 fake electors who put out the video in 2020 that i'm showing of them actually signing the document with all slate of electors there's a saying that trump won the state. how strong do you think this case is a great question? >> i haven't seen the evidence. i haven't heard of witnesses, but i do think that rudy giuliani and others knew what they did was wrong. rudy giuliani was a prosecutor. he was the us attorney in the sort of highest us attorney's office, most respected us attorney's office in the country, the southern district of new york and as such, he knew exactly what he was doing.
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he was submitting a false document to the government he knows that's a federal crime. it's a state crime, it's a forgery he knew that was wrong. the defense seems to be this idea that under the first amendment they were allowed to challenge the election. the first amendment doesn't allow you to commit a forgery. and that's in fact what was happening here. and i also think there's what the reporter was mentioning about christina bobb is fascinating a senior counsel at the rnc resigns does there's this litmus test now that you have to agree that the election was stolen in 2020, and he's replaced with a criminal defendant from arizona, christina bobb i would think that the rnc could find someone who isn't a criminal defendant who could make sure that there is an election integrity. in the next election get very odd choice in my mind. >> and can also the whole issue of giuliani being there to begin with, right? he had evaded his court summons and he had taught him prosecutors publicly about it. but then
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when it came up in court today, he tried to defend it and say that he wasn't wasn't evading anything. here's how we put it. >> i have a fair number of threads including death threats and i don't have security any longer since i've been a bankrupt so i have i have very very strict rules about who's gets and who doesn't and obviously, the context here is they eventually found him at his 80th birthday party and we were playing a little bit of that right. surrounded by a gaggle of people what do you think happened here? >> i'm gonna see lucky, he wasn't arrested i think he's lucky. he wasn't arrested. i think it was like he wasn't held without bond because someone who does axon that way is often considered a flight risk. >> and given, given who voted gianni, rudy giuliani is, i think the judge took that into account, but what a sad decline of a great reputation mayor who
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was did significant good in new york city. a prosecutor to see him acting in ways just all right congressman buck, i appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> a next actress, scarlett johansson, accusing tech giant, opened ai have using her voice so can you tell the difference between these two voices? >> i want. to learn everything about everything. are you about to reveal something about ai like in just watching down in iran as it morphs, its president and foreign minister is live next i'm getting vaccinated and weiser's pneumococcal pneumonia vaccine tele mine because i'm at risk for pneumococcal ammonia i already gotten pneumonia vaccine, but i'm asking about the added protection of prep, not 20 if you're 19 or older
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upon landing, you can see that a lot of things have changed here in this country. >> a lot of things are different. and one of the main differences that you see is that the entire city here of tehran, from the airport all the way to the city is absolutely plastered with billboards commemorating those who were killed in that helicopter crash. of course, not just the president ebrahim raisi, but also the foreign minister, hossein amir abdollahian, who of course you interviewed very recently and was a fascinating interview he's also on that billboard as well. so you can see here that those who are in power really want to make the mourning process very public and want as many people as possible to take part in that. and so you have these gigantic morning processions that we've seen in a couple of cities already and that we are going to see in a couple of hours here in attack ron as well. but for many of the folks that you speak to hear aaron, of course, they are all right in that mourning process, but they also of course, want to know what comes next and what the leadership here of this country has been trying to project is stability. they say that there's no not
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going to be a break in the government. they said everything is going to function as normal and they've already called for those elections. and with that, a lot of people are asking are things going to remain the same as iran going to continue? that hardline, conservative line of the raisi government, or could there be a more moderate government coming up? >> aaron sun, it's fascinating because i know originally on social media, you know, there were reports that some people were celebrating the death and now you're seeing this mass outpouring of government are in power sanctioned morning a few details have been given for the crash beyond foggy weather, right? it was an old bell helicopter, 40 years old. >> are people in iran believing that i think most of them are, i think most of them understanding that the helicopter fleet said that the government here flies that many airlines also here fly as well as far as aircraft are concerned are indeed very old, new, of course you did have adverse weather but of course there are a lot of rumors flying around there as well whether or not there could have been some foreign influence on the machine, whether or not there was some sort of technical fold. >> i think two things are quite interesting in that actually,
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on the one hand, the iranians means launched an investigation to see whether there was any technical of faults with that aircraft. of course, the weather definitely they believe played a role, but investigation is still coming up and then you also in this case, have vladimir putin the mix now as well, who is offered a russian experts to come here on the ground. and as he put it, find out what was really, as he said, behind the crash. so some ominous words, they're coming from the russian leader as well. >> all right, thank you very much. a fred pleitgen. >> and also tonight, she said she said actress scarlett johansson lawyering up against chatgpt and see ceo sam altman, accusing him of copying her voice without her permission jason carroll is outfront good morning, theodore. morning. >> you never saw her face in the sci-fi romance titled her, but audiences knew it was scott orleck johansson's distinctive voice for trained samantha, the synthetic siri like character in the 2013 film, you have a meeting in five minutes. >> you want to try getting too
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funny. >> the actor is now speaking out against open ai, and its ceo sam altman. saying her real voice sounds too close to the one openai created for chatgpt is updated model. the artificial voice goes by the name sky. here's a sample of what sky sounds like. >> hey, there, it's going great. how about you too similar for johansson, she released a state statement saying, my friends, family, and the general public, all noted how much the newest system named sky sounded like me. i was shocked, angered, and in disbelief, altman fired back saying the voice of sky is not scarlett johansson. and it was never intended to resemble hers. >> we cast the voice actor behind skies voice or for any outreach to ms johanson, on openai's blog, it said the company wanted a voice that was timeless approachable, and it narrowed the field of more than
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400 voice submissions and settled on a different actress saying, we believe that ai voices this should not deliberately mimic a celebrities distinctive voice altman would not reveal who they hired to voice sky. >> he says, to protect their privacy johansson isn't buying that, saying, not only did altman reach out last september with an offer to have her voice chatgpt 4.0 it she says she declined. she also says two days before it was released altman asked her agent if she would reconsider, then he tweeted this on may 13th, the day of its release, just one word her there's a lot of ethically questionable decision-making here. and i think it is concerning that despite scarlett same no, they felt confident enough to push the envelope. >> anyway and get as close to an imitation of her voice as possible. >> are you in a cool industry, stout office or something? >> people we spoke to were split on whether chatgpt sky
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sounds similar to johanson definitely see how it sounds like her. >> do you think the voices sounds similar? yet? no, not really. >> i don't think it sounds similar. >> i don't i think it's distinctive alkyne definitely see where it's coming but where she's coming from. but i think it sounds very robotic. >> i see you're wrong in an openai hoodie. >> people can debate all they want johansen has hired legal counsel saying this is about protecting a person's like this and identity as for openai, it paused the use of sky voice and its product its ceo apologizing saying, we are sorry to miss johansson, that we didn't communicate better and johansson is calling for more transparency, more oversight when it comes to how ai is used, there are many in the creative community who feel like there are only course of action. there are only protected shouldn't when it comes to ai, is to basically to lawyer up. >> but it's amazing. she's going through this and spending the mo d