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cnn one passenger killed dozens more hurt after a passenger patient into the death of actor matthew perry all right. 6:00 a.m. here in washington alive. look at new york city, where the defense has rested in the donald trump hush money trial. good morning, everyone in kasie hunt, it's

wonderful to have you with us as we said, the defense rests former president donald trump's hush money case soon to be in the hands of the jury who we'll have to consider whether he paid off a porn star to influence an election, will have to do it without hearing from the candidate himself. no surprise there, really, unless you made the mistake of believing donald trump yeah i would testify. absolutely. it's a scam. it's a scam that's not a trail. i'm testifying. i tell the truth. i mean, all i can do is tell the truth. >> are you more or less likely you think to take the stand in the manhattan case right now. i know well if it's necessary, probably so i would like to i mean, i think so i guess he listened to all the people who told him it would be a bad plan to get up there on the stand. instead. trump, of course, spoke outside the court and he escalated his attacks on judge juan merchan hey take a look a

look take a look at where it comes from partiality because of his heritage. >> panels here, molly ball, senior political correspondent, the wall street journal, matt gorman, former senior adviser to tim scott's presidential campaign, and former federal prosecutor, elliot williams, is also here. elliott i guess it should have been forgone conclusion that donald trump wasn't going to testify in this case, but he clearly you didn't actually want that to be the story. >> even though he acquiesced in the end, there was no universe either real, unreal meta versatile, whatever else in which would have made sense for donald trump to testify defendants very rarely do take the stand for obvious reasons. they can be picked apart past statements. they've made past conduct of theirs past. there's a gag order in this case where the president had been told based on his

misbehavior that there are certain things he couldn't say in public-key through alluded to their all of that could maybe have come in they would have spent more time at a hearing before trump testified talking about all the things that could get into court that he'd said in the past, then he would have been on the stand for and it would have been a disaster for him. he would have been eviscerated on cross-examination. now, i recognize that defendants often want to clear their name. jurors. in fact, will often say and come back with a question saying, why didn't the defendant takes the stand if i were on trial, i would want to take the standard clear my name and i get it again at it's a human impulse, however, it is an awful idea god bless his attorneys for getting through to him to tell him not to yeah. i mean, it's managing the guy is clearly something that many, many powerful people have had a lot of trouble with. >> but molly and matt, i mean this is donald trump has been sort of oddly obsessed with defendants testifying in their own defense over his many years in public life, like when martha stewart was on trial,

for example, he went on larry king and he said this, take a look devastated that martha didn't testify. i would've said testified, and i think that jury of 12 people is saying, like, tell us you didn't do it, don't i wouldn't want to hear from all the secretaries and everything else, many of whom were nullified and badly nullified. you gotta get up in the stand and i know it's tough. she has to get up they are the chest. i didn't do it. i'm innocent well, that's exactly what he was yeah. that's exactly the attitude that elliott's talking about right? there is this sort of common perception. and i think for trump he's always looked at this with two different incentives in mind, right? there's the legal incentive and then there's the political incentive. and as a political matter, i think he definitely wants to message to people exactly what he saw. he said in that old interview that he would have no problem getting up and telling the truth now, in practice, he doesn't want to get convicted and that's gotta be the bottom line. he does not want to get

convicted in this case and it is the unanimous opinion of the legal profession that he would dramatically increase that risk if you were to take the stand, but i wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people out there think he did testify just because he's always out there speaking before and after court, and he's been messaging around the trials so aggressively. i think he wants to create the impression and people that he isn't afraid to speak at the same time as again, he does not want to get convicted. >> one thing i should clarify. i jumped right into that. would it be good for his case? would it not? is it a good idea? what does it play? most important foreign farmer more than anything else is that he has a right not to testify. the constitution when we hear, quite frankly, when you watch cop shows, you have the right to remain silent. that's right out of the fifth amendment, which guarantees a defendant the right to not just not testify, but not put on any evidence at all at trial. and we often get quick to what would he have one if he testifies? well, he's exercising a right that every criminal defendant, even politicians that are grossly

unpopular in the jurisdiction that they're being tried in, still have a right and frankly, we ought to celebrate. yeah. i mean, look i'll talk about purely political perspective, right? and just take the name away. what is it more advantageous placed for the mega political case where you have the entire megaphone to yourself or one of the highly skilled person, ready to rebut you on a moment's notice. and who is guaranteed you are in you're entering their domain, right? like it it's politically, it just makes all the sense the welfare of not have testified, and it's just a great pool. the days like trump, we'll weave games like a talking head early days of twitter, like 2013 years, pop it off and robert patents in. and kristen stewart, he's talking about the marc stewart trial that was that was a blast in the past. i haven't flashbacks to my childhood watching that clip right there. >> well, the other thing you have to do if you take the stand is tell the truth and that's not really part of donald trump's skill set a good point molly, i do i don't want to let this past without just taking a second to focus on what he said about the judge in this latest set of attacks where he said, take a look at

where he comes from. >> the judge's colombian this is not the first time that donald trump has used this kind of an attack if you remember, judge curio for example, in another case, what do you hear him saying when he says that in some ways? it's almost surprising to me, we haven't heard and make this more aggressively before now considering his history around these things. but now it's coming right at the end. >> yeah i mean, i kind of felt the same way that it sort of surprised it took him this long to get to this point, keeps it sort of ambiguous. maybe he's talking about other aspects of the judges perspective besides his actual ethnic heritage. but it definitely does echo that old incident with judge carry-on. i think reminds a lot of people have how he tends it's to see the world which is in terms of the, these kinds of perceptions, these kinds of prejudices so you're, it's once again time for our daily

reminder of how far we've fallen as a nation that it is remarkable to us to sit here and say, wow, it's been a month and he hasn't used a racist dogwhistle yet, even as former president the united states, it's just he has shifted norms of how we talk about and what we expect of leaders so far that it's almost remarkable that he hasn't made fun of this man's ethnic heritage and, and it's just, it's mind-boggling at this point 0.20, 24, 2024 good point. >> all right coming up deadly tornadoes in the midwest with millions now bracing for severe weather from texas to new england, plus a passenger killed by turbulence. now, investigators want to know if there was a problem with the plane and would you buy coffee from this man to giuliani's new business venture ahead i love your dress i splurged a little because liberty mutual customize my car insurance and

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right. wrong, good book, three years. >> one, i don't want to mute you, but i need to move on. >> i don't want to mute you. >> what i need to move on elliott. this is clearly man who needs money right? which is i think part of why he was complaining about this he also yesterday posted the following we had actually seen that we've discussed this coffee. >> he's hawking on the show before, but now we've actually got an ad for it that says when you buy his coffee, you are buying a lot more than coffee. watch you all know, i stand by the truth. and if i put my name on something, i truly believe in it today, i'm thrilled to introduce you to something i'm incredibly proud of. my own brand of organic specialty coffee. rudy coffee. it so good. >> i even recommend drinking it black by supporting rid of coffee not just treating yourself to exceptional coffee.

>> you're also supporting our calls the clause of truth justice. and american democracy you too can support american democracy by drinking rudy's coffee reminder, he is being charged with essentially falsely tried to steal the election. >> right? >> and getting back to what we were talking about before the commercial break, this idea of where we've gone in 2024, my how the mighty have fallen and having grown up outside new york city, mapped to i remember rudy giuliani on the rubble after nine, 11 and literally america's mayor and watching this as almost sad and pathetic to see now your point about his needing money that was actually one of the bases that he claimed for why they couldn't serve process on him. if viewers remember that, they couldn't find him to give him this notice of this indictment because he for some period of time, they finally caught him at his 80th birthday party. well he claimed that his apartment he had to lock it down because people were

threatening him and he doesn't have the money anymore to pay security. therefore, he would not let court officials up to his apartment to hand him news of his indictment or the indictment. all of this is to say what a horrible place the former mayor is in. but again, he cannot escape the arm, the reach of the law and he ought to know that and we'll see yeah, no innocent proven guilty, but you're right. like, i mean, this was a mating before he was married, the guy took down the mob in new york city in the 80s, was a legendary figure and really taking down that america is marrying around nine, 11 also cleaned up new york city. a lot of ways and had every blue-chip client, essentially, upon leaving office, was was very well set. if you talk to him, say in 2004 right and now where he is just kind of hawk and coffee for what seems like a pretty high price 29, 99 for two pounds. >> yeah, i yeah. it seems it seems a little high to me, although i don't know inflation prices have gone up. all right, come on up next here. donald trump says he's looking at

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transferred to nearby facilities. let's get to our meteorologists, elisa a rafah. good morning to you, where the storm setting next we are looking at that tornado balls. >> i in parts of texas today, which is at least good news. it takes iowa out of the bullseye, giving them time to recover because some of the tornado videos that we have seen are just incredible looks like out of a movie, look at all that debris, just spinning in that tornado again, this was imports of iowa and the damage that has been left behind a lot of the videos just show incredible devastation. here's a look at that risk today again, iowa in the clear, the risk now moves south where we've got that enhanced level three out of five risk from dallas down towards shreveport back into central texas. very large hail, damaging winds and a copy well of tornadoes are still possible that highest tornado risk is going to be in parts of texas. some of the southern corner there of oklahoma, and then going into arkansas, that's where we could find a couple of tornadoes if we get these discrete cells to form. and you

can see some of them showing up here on that future radar or something like that that could have the capability do you have having a tornado now, if these cells are organized into a line that's where you get the push of damaging winds that we have to worry about as well. all of this firing up later on this afternoon and evening again, some relief up in the midwest with some jar two points, it should be a little bit more refreshing as they clean up the damage pc elisa rafah and credible number of days this spring, we've spent covering tornado damage. thank you very much for that her now this funeral ceremonies stretching into today for iranian president ebrahim raisi, a radian supreme leader ayatollah khamenei, leading the ceremony at tehran university authorities, still investigating what caused the helicopter crash that killed raisi and other iranian officials on sunday, frederik pleitgen joins us now live from tehran with more on this. fred. good morning to you. what more? what can you tell us about the funeral ceremony today? and i think worth noting the things that this man oversaw in his

time as president of iran, including brutal crackdowns on protesters yeah. >> app. so you're absolutely right. first of all, and then second of all, the funeral procession today was absolutely massive. we were right in the thick of all of it. i would say there were hundreds of thousands of people who turned out in central tehran for that precession, which of course was not only for ebrahim raisi, the president of iran, but also the foreign minister, hossein i'm here, abdullah eon, who also perished in that crashed who of course, was very important for iranian foreign policy, especially in the past couple of weeks and months as they add that standoff in israel, and the people that we saw there on the ground, of course, there was a lot of grief there among the mourners. lot of people holding signs commemorating those who were killed also, the government really making a big deal thought of this as well. i can tell you, casey, the city tehran is absolutely plastered with billboards commemorating those who were killed in that crash. but there's also a lot of people who are now saying that they want to see what the way forward is as well. the supreme leader of iran, i told her ali khamenei, he actually

oversaw the ceremonies today commemorating the funeral, and he said that the important thing right now for iran is stability. and he also vowed once again that the government would work without disruption. and that's certainly something that's been very big for the iranians at this time trying to project stability. casey all right. frederik pleitgen for us, live in toronto fred, thank you very much for being there for us. i really appreciate it. >> coming up next a unified reich that schindler's language that's not america's president biden's warning about donald trump amplifying language, evoking adolf hitler's reign plus a criminal investigation into the death of friends, star matthew perry bleeding gums are serious. >> jamie dr. garcia jury sign a

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>> adrian al rod adrian. good morning. it's wonderful to have you on the show thanks. >> casey so the question at hand here, and obviously we saw the video that the campaign, you all the campaign put together on this. >> i want to bring up this piece that david graham wrote in the atlantic to respond to this video. he says, quote trump's critics debate whether it's more effective to attack trump as a threat to democracy, criticizes unpopular policy ideas, paint him as corrupt or focus on biden's positive accomplishments the bizarre thing is that many voters may hear about the controversy and it assumes that it reveals trump's sympathy for the third reich and then vote for him anyway, we have seen a lot of willingness from voters to hear these kinds of things that donald trump says or alludes to and then seemed to not really care about it. and vote for him anyway, how do you, as a campaign overcome that okc?

>> it's our job as a campaign to make sure that the american people and voters do take it seriously. they do realize that not only what a trump second term mean that we are living under an authoritarian regime in some respects because he's literally told us that's what he's going hi to deal, force casey, as you noted he's made it very clear that he wants to world's a dictator on day one, he literally put that on truth, social he is sympathized with authoritarian leaders. he is admired dictators from across the world. this is a pattern behavior that is incredibly disturbing. and i think the american people well when they really start to realize this is not trump, just saying things for the sake of saying things. this is really trump saying how he is going to lead our country in a second term, if he gets back into the white house. so president biden, of course, the contrast could not be more clear, wanted to make sure that the american people understood what's at stake. we put out a video yesterday, very simply, president biden is on word saying this is nazi germany

language that trump is lifting up. i'm fighting for you, the american people. trump is, is fighting to lean into dictators and to be an authoritarian. the contrast could not be more clear and by the way, casey the more donald trump uses this device of rhetoric, the more we're going to make sure that everyone in america understands what's at stake. and the type of ruler that he would be if he got back into the white house. >> so adrian, i'm going to remind everyone what donald trump said back about what happened in charlottesville when there are, there were neo-nazi groups who gathered among others. and of course, resulted in one very tragic death. here's what donald trump had to say about it in the immediate aftermath. swatch me show you my mr. are to protest thank you. that has

been cited as one of president biden's personal motivations for wanting to run for president against donald trump in the first place. back in 2020 but of course, there have been there has been in the way think of that, some tension at behind the scenes among democrats about what is the most effective way for democrats to run against donald trump. and i'm just interested to know what your latest data and thinking is as a campaign around the distinction between running on it mean what the house of former house speaker nancy pelosi, we'll say the kitchen table issues inflation, the economy as compared to democracy and clearly that's something that very much personally animates the president what's your view as to whether that is the most effective message for voters this fall? >> okc, i think it's all of the above. i mean, look, our job on the campaign is to make it clear to the american people that this election is about a choice, is a choice between two candidates, president biden, somebody who has a consistent record, of fighting for the

american people. i mean, we could sit here and tick off a list of his accomplishments, the achieved in the first three-and-a-half years low unemployment, low unemployment record job creation over 15 million jobs, four major economic bills we could go on and on. but what matters, of course in this election, casey, is what president biden will do in a second term, making sure these implementing that agenda versus donald trump, who simply want us to seek political retribution on its enemies. who simply wants to make sure that he can gain as much power as possible by ruling like an authoritarian, again, we've talked about how he has leaned into dictators. he has said that there will be a bloodbath if president biden wins reelection and donald trump loses, the election cannot be more clear. so now not only are we running on president biden's strong record for the american people, but we are running at contrast campaign to make it clear that not only would a donald trump second term be very dangerous to the american people, but it would be even worse than his first

term because he's not going to listen to some of the folks that have brought in. and the first time he's going to bring blend who seek to implement his agenda, which is dangerous, which is divisive, which is to seek political retribution, which is not to fight for the american people, which is why joe biden made that very clear in the video, i care about you. he cares about lifting up by sub-language adrian, before let you go, i want to ask you about the new york times report that justice samuel alito outside of his home, there was an upside-down american flag flying a signal of the stop, the steal movement in the wake of january 6, do you does the biden campaign believed that justice alito, in light of this should recuse himself from the january 6 related cases yeah i don't think that's really for us to comment on, but what i will tell you, casey, is that president biden believes the

american flag is sacred. >> and let's just remember when donald trump had the chance to a 0.3 supreme court justices under his first term, he said he appointed justices who made it very clear where they stand on women's reproductive health. they were responsible for overturning roe v. wade president biden was able to put one supreme court justice on conduct. ketanji brown jackson, the first black woman that supreme court, who has been a very progressive voice for the american people on that port. so again, the contrast could not be more clear all right. >> adrian, i'll oraa, for us, this morning, biden campaign spokeswoman. i always grateful to have you, adrian convection thanks. >> casey all right the reaction to this flag that alito flu. i want to dig into a little bit because we have actually seen some criticism from republicans. it's been mixed overall, but still interesting. watch is that appropriate the justice to do that, angie

recuse himself many cases it seems to me they're just nonstop attacks on the supreme court week after week after week and so i'm not going to dignify that with a response. >> i don't know what happened in the neighborhood. i don't think he should be cuz but i don't think is crazy. a bad, bad image. and i mean, i don't know what happened all i can say is it created a situation that we're all talking about so yeah, i think it was a mistake so he says he thinks it was a mistake and my ball, i mean, earlier in the week, got graham off camera, had said this about alito quote, it's not good judgment to do that. >> he said his wife was insulted and got mad i assume that to be true. but you are still a supreme court justice. people have to realize it, moments like that. to think it through. >> i was a little surprised to hear lindsey graham making this argument, but he says, what seems obvious, i think to

almost like you're a supreme court justice, there are different standards for you. as a supreme court justice, and there are for the rest of us this is a public presentation. this is you making a political display outside your home. this isn't some like, private comment that happened to be overheard, but was not meant for anyone to see. i think we're living in a time when the legitimacy of the court has been called into question when a lot of americans have lost confidence in the court. when the court is making these highly charged ideological decisions and when the court is going to do that, they need that confidence more than ever. they need people to trust that the court is making decisions since based on the law and not based on partisanship, when if you're going to do something like overturn roe v. wade, which is a very unpopular decision that has caused that we i think has been tied to the plummeting approval ratings for the court because so many americans just do not feel that they can trust the court to be

fair and impartial. so i think it's just further erodes the credibility in addition, shin to all the scandals that we've seen recently. >> yeah, there's also some reports that apparently, at least according to cnbc, matt alito, sold shares in budweiser and then blot course. >> yeah, i think there was a look. i'll i'll take a step back. i think that was kind of a a dumb far-left the opposition research here. >> because, because like what your if you're if you're company, you're invested in is in the middle of a boycott, national boycott, that stock price is tanking anheuser-busch makes sense to sell it and get another one. >> i think just pure. i'm not i'm not a financial analyst. or so i think that's a little different. i will say this kind of step back a little bit. i think it's so many ways whether it's the court look at the house of congress the question i always ask ourselves is the court or congress gotten more polarized? >> or have we and our, we are reflection right? >> like we are folks, we're the

ones send these folks down we are the ones reacting to it. and i think a lot of ways so much of this now is a reflection of who we are as a society, as well as having he extra, or at least those among us who are wanting to and fully participate in our system, right? it's, it's the people who are most motivated right now to play a significant part in our system often are the people on the edges and not a wide swath of people in the middle, many of whom are turned off entirely from our politics. all right, come up next here. passengers recall the terrifying moments of deadly turbulence aboard a singapore airplane, airlines flight plus hunter biden heads to court why his attorneys are asking for more time to respond to his tax evasion charges you want to close out. should i? normally, i'd hold, but taking the games of smart here right feel more confident what's doc ratings from jpmorgan analysts and the

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died and more than 70 were injured. six of them critically through some screaming. >> and who's winning, who's actually i realize the gravity of it when i looked over my shoulder so the people sitting behind me with a lady who had big gash in her head and blood pouring down her face cnn aviation correspondent, piedmont team joins our panel now, pete, good morning. >> wonderful. to have you. thanks. it's obviously a very sad story, but i think we all look at it and think oh my god, how can something like this happen? >> i mean, you're a pilot there seemed to be some questions about the plane. now what do you think caused this? what do we know about what? cause this? it does seem like these turbulence incidents keep happening over and over again and i report on them all the time. >> this one has to be one of the more severe because it's so rarely do they end in a fatality? >> it is though the top cause of injuries on commercial flights in the us and beyond. >> we've not seen a fatality because of turbulence since

about 20:21 on a commercial airliner worldwide but turbulence is a really insidious problem. and the hard thing is that it's invisible. a lot of times, a pilot cannot be able to see what it's going to come on. there were a few different costs this those can be things like wind shear. so two different layers of wind moving at different speeds may be some, some shear off of a mountain or some terrain you're buying. but then there's also the issue of thunderstorms. and that is what investigators are really looking intuit a big way here, because our data and data from those who look at meteorology around the world is that this flight was flying in myanmar. it's the start of the monsoon students, the isn't there. the weather really changes very rapidly and this was in an area where there were some rapidly developing thunderstorms which have a lot of up and down drafts. it's for the thunderstorm develops. >> and so that cannot be seen on radar, not only on the ground, but also in the airplane. and so the flight crew could have found themselves wasn't a situation where the cylinder storms were

developing with these big changing currents of air and not be able to avoid it in a way that's really rapid to get out of it. the good news here is that airlines have really changed their procedures and they know that this is such a big issue. and so airlines are really forcing their flight crews to really make it so that they have are spring loaded to deal with turbulence. i mean, i think i think that that's talking to me and, you i think we've all been guilty of ignoring the fasten seat belt i don't know about you guys never, you know, i also never ever i'm big series and i never really because it gets because i can offer this all the time. >> yeah. so i always have my seat belt on i think people are really sort of pressured into this feeling like i had to go to the bathroom. i had to get up. i tried to go pee before i can on the plane. i mean, that's sort of helps to like you're not sort of like cotton that position. i know that sounds weird, but it is have to think of the physiological effect. it's honestly that's good advice. yeah. >> ten hour flight. it's a little it's totally tricky. i

mean, i want to know all the circumstances here. i want to know if this was happening as the cabin crew was doling out food or did they were in the middle of meal service when this happened? that the seat belt time did come on, but it sounds like it was very close to when the turbulence it's actually hit and it's so hard for the crew to really know when it's going to come on. but the big thing is that airlines have now sort of spring loaded their crews to be like they'll come over the pa and say flight attendants take your jumpsuits and that is the signal that you should not be messing around. you should get buckled and you've seen the jump seats on board these commercial flights where these flight attendants can buckle and very quickly that is the sign that something is coming very quickly because flight attendants and flight crews get injured all the time. i've heard a flight crews breaking ribs of hurting their achilles tendon. it can be very serious and so especially if you're standing up and going through these gravitational forces kirby once where you're experiencing some g's you could get thrown up to the ceiling and some extreme events and we have seen in the images here, i will want to know whether or not things hit the

ceiling the cabin carnot other passengers hit a ceiling. i mean, it's just stunning and this may be a painfully basic question, but do we know whether the fatality was from impact and some where was there's a bit of conjecture. >> i mean the hospital there and bangkok says that in bits, person may have had a heart condition prior. now that is one source. and so there clearly needs to be an autopsy see what exactly took place here, but it's not unheard of that somebody could break their neck and get really severely injured and died directly from turbulence. so regardless of whether or not this person had some sort of preexisting condition. it is a really serious thing and it's so it shows how quickly things can turn on a commercial flight and why you should always have your seat belt on yeah. >> all right. well, you didn't hear it here. you didn't hear it first here. but you did hear it here from our piedmont and your airplane seat for your own safety, pete. thank you. very grateful to have you.

>> all right. 50 minutes past the hour. here's your morning roundup. hunter biden expected in court today for a hearing? his federal tax evasion case, the president's son has pleaded not guilty to nine counts. his attorney calling the charges nothing more than a political hit job guilty plea from one of five americans who allegedly brought ammunition into turks and caicos illegally. all of them face up to 12 years in prison. and cleanly carried the ammunition in their luggage, inadvertently los angeles police opening and criminal investigation into the source of the ketamine that led to matthew perry's death and two federal agencies are assisting the friends star was found floating facedown in his pool last october today, a judge in florida will hear motions to dismiss charges against and i'll trump and his co-defendants in the classified documents case. after nude photos showed defendant walt nauta moving boxes around mar-a-lago, unsealed in court documents revealed some of

those classified documents were found in trump's bedroom months after the fbi searched the resort molly ball, these are these are new pictures of this allegedly while now to the personal aide to donald trump down at mar-a-lago, also charged in the case as the judge has basically put this all off until after the election. i mean what is the significance of this also, these new notes that these boxes, there were boxes found in trump's bedroom. >> well, i think it's a reminder that the crux of this case is not so much that trump took the documents, although he wasn't supposed to to do that, but that he refused to return them and went to great lengths to try to hide them. and to obstruct the investigation, at least allegedly according to the to the prosecution. and that's really what's at the heart of this case. it's not so much the potentially inadvertent or potential

misunderstanding of the laws around this stuff. >> it's that he didn't i think the rules applied to him. he didn't think he should have to give it back despite what the law says. and this is of course become the latest thing on the right. >> elliott, because everyone has suddenly seemed to notice and marjorie taylor greene and paul gosar who are on the very far right of the house republican conference are talking about the fact that this fbi rate, of course, was authorized because trump wouldn't give this stuff back, right? he was asked repeatedly to give it back before this rate occurs. but in this raid authorization, there's an authorization to use deadly force and trump has been also posting about this on his truth social page. can you just clear this up for us? is that people on the right are saying that this some of them are going so far as to say this was an assassination attempt my understanding is that this is pretty standard what's the deal? this is absolute nonsense. it is standard operating procedure to empower law enforcement to use deadly force as we've seen in

spectacular fashion over the last five years in many of these high profile cases, law enforcement empowered to use deadly force when executing a search warrant. i wouldn't even call it a raid. it's a standard procedure when officers are appearing at home and particularly if the ai officers do to be prepared to use deadly force, you would find that in the case of and eviction, you would find that they are coming to evict someone from their home. they'd be empowered to use deadly force there in like immigration enforcement. that would be the same. now, that doesn't mean that they can break down a door and just start shooting at people. there would have to be a threat. and if someone were at the time they entered mar-a-lago to wielding machetes or firearms. of course, law enforcement would be howard use deadly force. the idea that this is somehow an assassination attempt is nonsense. it's absolute nonsense. >> this is why we have you here oh, all right. now this donald trump is emphatic that he will not advocate it for a ban on birth control if he wins in november, we don't. he is now emphatic because just hours

earlier, he when he was asked if he supported restrictions on contraception, he said this do you support any restrictions on a person's right to contraception we're looking at that and i'm going to have a policy on that very shortly. >> and i think it's something that you'll find interesting that suggests that that you may want to support some restrictions like the morning after pill or some here we are also things really do have a lot to do with the states okay. pounds back, matt, they seem to try to clean this up quickly. the suggestion that he's confusing it with abortion pills, but democrats are going to i use that. of course i'll say this right. >> take the name out of the campaigns are kind of born out in crises and how they react to these sorts of things. >> and look, i've been doing it for awhile. how folks, how campaigns react to when their boss either it's unclear, says the wrong thing.

>> well, litany of things, how they fix it is really important and they did a pretty good job here because it seemed like he was talking about, as you said, mifepristone because the abortion pill, which is, you know, there's some discrepancy by mail, whole thing, not actual contraception writ large, but look, i think this is one of those things that it's as much as we've talked about trump the broader thing is fairly common. how campaigns into clean this up, how they do it, how they do it quickly it's really important. >> well, on this issue, molly, i mean, this is something that as soon as rho fell, this democrats were talking about this, that if this has falling, this means but they're going to come after contraception. the anchor was asking you about the morning after pill, which many conservatives have actually made an issue around trying to say that it is not it does not fall into the category of contraception that it's closer to abortion, but i think most americans understand it as a contraceptive method that now they have access to is they're damaged on here from this trump clip or does mat se they just handle it. move on.

>> i think anything that reminds people about this issue of the ambiguities that you're talking about, the parts of the powers of the federal government that trump hasn't really gone into detail about how he would use them things like mail order abortion pills. there's that they're possibility that the comstock act, i believe that that the federal government could, could tighten that if he becomes president and there's, and there's a lot of unanswered questions about all of the different powers of the federal government that he could use just to further restrict abortion that his, his stance of saying we're going to leave it to the states doesn't fully answer. so i think he knows this is a tough issue for him politically a losing issue for him politically and so he has sought to to sort of triangulated, find a middle path, reassure voters and that he doesn't want to further further restrict things, but anytime he's talking about it, i think it reminds people that this is part of part of the agenda, part of what's on

valid all right wanted to end on this. there was a peculiar moment outside donald trump's hush money trial on tuesday. here's texts because congressman troy nehls, he is one of the republicans who accompanied trump to court there's not another person on the planet that could do that other than the pope. >> the pope. and when do people go, they visit the pope. what are they say? poke lucky you do what you're blessed me and my family. that's what they want. bay one plus it's for their families when they go see default. when people come to town with trump's rallies, they're saying, now trump, we need you more than ever. before. our country is burning fat, gorman. >> donald trump equals the pope, and troy nehls, his view is, i'll say this, the guy, the guy knows how to get on eclipse on cnn and clubs and cable news. it's a succinct quote that he says in front of the cameras, he goes to new york and says it. i think as we said before, right. are we more pull are those congressman

polarized or are we? right it's incentivized to goh in, give those sorts of quotes because he knows he'll get coverage. i mean, i guess he's kinda living it right lab. we've talked a lot about this, right? the idea that politicians will go to someone else's criminal trial and associate themselves with that when they, you know, they don't have to, they could say that they were busy doing other things and he missed the layout here? no, the pope can't draw those kinds of crowds but bianna, say, and taylor swift can we saw this summer the arrows tore through a far bigger crowd. i thank are far bigger crowds nationwide than any trump rally might have. i mean, come on, it's the beatles that they were more popular than jesus christ. and i think that didn't go over that. well either slightly more, slightly more conservative time. but number one, their hair was like a wild is the hell was going on in our culture okay, that's where we are thanks. >> to all of you for joining us this morning and thanks to our panel for being here. i'm kasie hunt. don't go anywhere. cnn news central starts right now