radio transmission. isolated islands putt off from the outside world taiwan is cooperating with nasa in the us accelerating its space program in the face of rising threats, china is rising up in space. in space. >> there's no country. >> the vision or there's no boundary and back on earth rising cross-strait tensions, adding urgency to taiwan's space race these military drills happening right now around taiwan underscore just how urgent of a project this is for taiwan because any of the war ships that are sailing around theoretically could cut the internet cables, which would result in a island-wide communications blackout, which could of course, we can taiwan be a precursor? sir for a blockade or an invasion. i mean, these are the scenarios that they are thinking about.

and are now potentially playing out, or at least the training for which on the chinese side playing out in real time error. >> all right. well, thank you very much. in taipei tonight. thanks to all of you, anderson starts now tonight on three 60. the former president is rally in the bronx happening now, trying to make inroads with black and hispanic voters and perhaps hoping they'll forget his decades-long controversial comments about minorities. also tying democrats demand justice samuel alito recuse himself from january 6, related cases after a second photo, merges of a controversial flag flown over one of his homes. and later a heartwarming or union between retired lieutenant general russell honore, twin boys. he humorously helped in a difficult days after hurricane katrina. good evening right now, the president is at a rally in the south bronx, home to 27 world championships, the birthplace of hip hop and a population much different from the usual crowd of trump's supporters were black and latino people vastly outnumber whites he lost the bronx to the

president biden by about 68 points in 2020. days ahead of the closing arguments in his criminal hush money trial, the former president, late into president biden touted his new york roots so far different tone from the man who wants took out full full-page ads pushing for the death penalty for five black youths, known as the central park five, who are falsely accused and convicted in 1989, attack on a 28 year-old female jogger. they were later exonerated. trump has never apologized he famously made headlines pushing the lie, the barak obama, america's first african-american president was not born in the us why does me show his birth certificate new are going to be the president of the united states. >> it says very profoundly that you have to be boarded this guy. >> i wanted i want him to show something on that third certificate that he doesn't allow he did show births, serve take of it certificate at any was born in hawaii or recently he's come under criticism for saying this about black people

liking him because of his indictments and his mug shot and a lot of people said that that's why the black people like because they have been hurt so badly and discriminated against. >> and they actually viewed me as i'm being district again since the mug shot, we've all seen the mug shot and, you know who embraced it more than anybody else. the black population, it's incredibly kristen holmes joins us now from the site of the rally words the former president been saying at the rally he doesn't he just wrapped up seconds ago generally a standard stuff saying that he's going to make the economy better, talking about lands were to win the election in november. >> but one thing is very clear, donald trump at his opening with black hispanic voters. at here the picture south has an alternative to joe biden hello, new york city and hello to all of the incredible tough, strong, hardworking american

patriots. right here in the bronx as the former president tries to build support with black and hispanic voters, recent polls show when you're making gains with key blocks of president joe biden's coalition, african americans are getting slaughtered hispanic americans are getting slaughtered. >> and these millions and millions of people that are coming into our country, the biggest impact and the biggest negative impact is against are black population and are hispanic population four years ago, biden one bronx county by nearly 68 points. >> i'm confident that the bronx is going to overwhelmingly reject donald trump based on the polling data that i've seen among likely voters in the bronx, donald trump is so unpopular, estimate radioactive. he's even less popular than arsenic in the broth the biden campaign, launch a pair of as thursday's slamming trump for his past comments about black americans. >> donald trump disrespecting you back, focus, nothing new, just like new york strong democratic lean, trump insists

he can put the empire state and play this november i'm running hard and new york, i think we're going to win new york, something he claimed during his first run in 2016. >> i think we're going to win new york. >> and again, in 2020, we're going for new york. >> we got to finish losing the state both times by more than 20 points thank you. >> and god bless you all exact no republican nominee is carried new york since ronald reagan in 1984 over president's outdoor rally and cortona park is the latest in a series of campaign stops. >> trump is scheduled around his hometown since the start of his criminal hush money trial, six weeks ago next week, a dirty is set to begin discussing trump's fate in the case what was the crowd leinz, what kind of response did he get certainly a bigger crowd that i think democrats would like to feed, particularly given this is what counties in the entire country now, one of

the things that was interesting to me is that the trump campaigns going to micro target to get people from the community to come to this rally. i wasn't sure what to expect. i've gone to a lot of these rallies across the country and they're often people trapped hello, hundreds of miles. donald trump and they're not necessarily part of the kennedy, however, one of the things that i found was that there were a lot of people here that we're actually from the bronx before we even came into the rallies. lot of course, once we were and it was all people supporting him before we actually even came in. we talked to a number of people outside is a community in this reaction. they can be it was really mix with people saying, he doesn't belong here. you should get out. >> but you also had a number of people, voters who told me that they had supported biden in 2020 painting a very unhappy particularly with the state of the economy. and they were looking for alternatives, namely former president donald trump, anderson isn't holmes. >> thanks very much joining me now, former baltimore mayor stephanie rawlings, blake and republican strategists for michael singleton, mayor what do you make of donald trump's outrage i think the democrats

ignore trump's outreach to minority voters at their peril trump knows how to trigger people. >> he knows what speaks to people, what gets them out. now, i can't say that all of those people are from the bronx. i'm very suspicious that the majority of those people were voters in the bronx, but he is doing something that is speaking to the hearts and minds minority voters. and i hope that democrats don't put our heads in the sand, even if it's not. >> i mean chances are he's not going to get a lot of electoral votes, not gonna win electoral votes in the state of new york. but this message, this idea, could be seen another in places. the idea that he's reaching out, he went to the boogie down bronx a place that set the entire world, changed the culture for the entire world through hip hop, he didn't go there by mistake. he went there because he knows if you go to the bronx, it's a message that it's a place that

resonates with people, particularly african-american so if they see that it's going to it's going to weigh more in our community. so like i said, i hope the democrats are not turning a blind eye and just dismissing these groups of voters as as cast offs sure, my god do think it was wiser the president former president to do this. i mean, obviously new york is not considered a swing state do you expect this event will help i mean, i think it is wise anderson, of course, he doesn't expect to win the state. >> i don't think any republican presidential candidate would expect to win the state. but from a strategic position, if you could somewhat put the state in play a little bit by making your opponent have to spend more, do more in terms of resources to shore up that, that base, that key constituency that i think strategically that's very sound and we look, i've been involved in republican politics, anderson for a very long time going all the way back to teenage republicans to be in the president of my college

republican chapter to go and fast forward to 2012 after working with mitt romney, we lost that race and the rnc at the time published the growth and opportunity project. i remember my dear friend, at least a phonic now congresswoman reached out, said, hey, i'd love to get your assessment on strategy in terms of what the party should do in regards to outreach the party wasn't successful. anderson and fast for it out of all people donald trump appears, at least to be attempting to make some efforts in and i wouldn't ignore these things. i don't think anyone should be so presumptive to just assume that people, regardless of their race. well, one way or the other, let me ask you, mr. michael, because you in 2016, you were very critical of candidate trump. >> you were saying there's no way you would vote for him. you told people not to vote for him. you said his language that he used about inner city communities was completely wrong you actually got fired from hud because of that op-ed. they forced they literally walked you out of the hud office. >> do you now? for the former president wearing said, i

haven't announced who i am supported, who i'm not going to support what i have tried to do as a strategist is provide objective critiques on both sides. and with that in mind, looking at some of the efforts at the former president is making, i think strategically wise as smart you are seeing sort of a realignment in many ways. andrew bissen of hard working blue collar workers, not just white, but african-american or hispanic americans who appear to be frustrated with the current reality from president biden and they are looking for options. >> yeah mayor, what i, mean, there are a lot of people not happy with prison biden on the democratic side among black voters and latino voters. >> he could make inroads very possibly. >> he can make inroads because he's using the language and speaking to people in a way that they received. i think democrats, we have to do a better job messaging the winds of the biden administration and there are many you don't need the biden ministration has done a good enough job reaching out to to vote or do you think they're taking voters for granted i think the democratic party unfortunately has a track

record of taking some voters, some voter blocks for granted. >> and i hope that that doesn't happen now. but as i said before, trump has a way of keying into people's the things that make them angry that the how they feel that they're being taken advantage of. and when he speaks to people who feel that they should be doing better in life and scapegoat immigrants, for example. he's giving them a common and a mean he's speaking to them in a way that says you know, if if biden would only do something about this group that's taken advantage of view. you'd have that job that you want. is it true? >> no, it's not true. >> but he doesn't mind spewing falsehoods if it means that it's ways voters and he doesn't have to sway all of them. he just has to get marginally more than he did before and he puts biden and danger. >> sure. i go i want to play something foreign president said on just on saturday at nra conference honestly, there's

been no president since abraham lincoln and perhaps in a certain way including abraham lincoln but there has been no president since abraham lincoln that has done more for the black individual in this country than president donald j. trump. there has been nobody, not even close i mean, it's a ridiculous statement. >> i'm not even going to ask you if it's ridiculous statement, but does that work. >> do you think no. >> and i said, i think that's frankly hyperbole based on the base. i mean, nra i understand the crowd. a lot of republicans would like to see republican candidates make more inroads with african-americans. so i kind of dismissed that. i think most voters are probably dismissed that as well. i think what it's more important though, where the former president has been somewhat successful, anderson is talking about some of those kitchen table issues. the economy has

improved. that's a fact, but the reality is the cost of goods are still high. we are approaching the summer months. gas is going to be high. >> people are wondering whether or not they're going to be able to take care of those necessities. >> and if you can articulate the case just to make that distinction between the current president and a former president, there's some people have said, well, i'm not very happy over these four years and i am looking for an alternative. will that alternative b, donald trump, he certainly has an opportunity to make the case to the american voters. >> do you think you do you think he will get a larger percentage of black and latino voters than he did the last time. >> he'll definitely get a larger percentage than the last time. i don't know if it will be enough to make a difference. but he's doing whether he it's disingenuous or not. i don't believe a thing he says whether it's disingenuous or not, he's making an effort. he's making an effort in communities that sometimes don't see major candidates because they're in solid blue areas. >> what do you think is the role for that vice president harris has been playing on the campaign? >> i think the biden

administration in the campaign, the dnc would be well-served to put her outfront more. she has a constituency, she has a base and i think that she needs to activate that more as well as more high-profile at advocates are surrogates, stephanie rawlings thank you so much and i singleton. >> thank you so much. really appreciate it still to come tonight and democrats calling for a supreme court justice, samuel alito to recuse himself from january 6 related cases after the new york times revealed the second flag affiliated with the so-called stop the steal movement was flying over property owned by alito. also, you've seen the organized shoplifting tonight. a fascinating look at how some big retailers are now fighting back using their own detectives to bill cases against organized criminal gangs assignments are going off. the tornado here you cannot out sworn this. you cannot outrun it really is a

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possible all his what's it worth? bumper before you buy i'm under rajiv and capitol hill. this is sienna democrats are demanding justice samuel alito recuse himself from cases related to the january 6 riot after the new york times reported on a second more obscure flag flown at one of alito's homes, has been used by those who support the so-called stop the steal movement, claiming trump won the 2020 election alito authored one key opinion today related to elections in south carolina, but the court is not announced its decision about whether to grant the former president immunity in his federal election interference case. >> bryan todd has more supreme court justice samuel alito's physical bearing didn't change this morning when the court announced some opinions, his usual rigid serious expression on display as is typical, the justice betraying no signs of the controversy surrounding him. >> the new york times has reported that a flag that was on display among rioters that the capital on january 6, was

flown at justice alito's new jersey vacation residents, at least four times last summer, according to the times that flag with a green pine tree and the words, an appeal to heaven on it was flown at alito's summer home two years after an upside-down american flag, a symbol used by donald trump's supporters who challenged the results of the 2020 election was flown at alito's house in northern virginia. that flag on display in 2021, just after the january 6 attack. top democrat on the senate judiciary committee today openly concerned about the conservative justices displays in start to wonder, is this just a chance and discretion, or is it a conscious declaration of his mega loyalty? >> i think the question is, how many manga battle flags does a supreme court justice after fly until the rest of the court takes it seriously. >> a prominent republican senator defends alito. >> i just think democrats are determined to harass members of the supreme court. obviously, they don't like justice alito or the decisions he makes.

>> alito so far has not explained the appeal to heaven flag. he said the upside down flag was raised by his wife in response to a dispute with neighbors. scholars say the appeal to heaven flag was first flown during the revolutionary war as a symbol against british tyranny. but now some believe it means something different. >> now, the flag symbol flies as both at the nation that we live in should be a christian nation, but also that the steel of the 2020 election should be stopped. >> alito's flags are drawing concern because there are multiple cases before the supreme court involving the 2020 election and january 6, including the pivotal question of whether trump can claim immunity on election subversion charges. a critic of the supreme court says, alito should recuse himself from those cases and there should be investigations in both the house and the senate, not only about the flags that the extent to which justice alito, his family, and possibly even his clerks are aligning themselves with these dark movements within american politics.

>> there's no indication that alito we will take himself off the january 6 cases or that fellow conservative justice clarence thomas will, even though thomas, his wife, ginni, engaged in efforts to reverse the 2020 election results in trump's favor and attended trump's stop the steal rally on january 6, i think we are in the middle of an ethics crisis at the supreme court, justice alito, and the supreme court did not respond to cnn's request for comment about the flag controversy. anderson bryan todd, thanks so much on me now cnn political analysts and the jury journalist carl bernstein, author chasing history, a kid in the newsroom, which is a great read and former federal judge nancy gertner, now a senior lecturer at harvard law school. >> so judge gardner, i mean, would it be appropriate under any circumstances for january 6 related flags? to be, flying outside his supreme court justices home, let alone while related cases are before the court absolutely not i was married to the head of the

civil liberties union, illegal der when i was on the bench. >> and the notion that any of his causes, what have been shown conan a flag in front of my house was preposterous and there's there's another point here which is these are flags that were flown after the january 6 insurrection when when we know that the country is so fraught and the integrity of the supreme court has been under attack so what does it show? it? a certain sense of impunity a certain sense of he does not have to justify what he does, which is really a lawless supreme court. i can't think of any circumstances under which this is justified. >> curl even with alito said, well, it was my wife who put the upside down flag. i mean, the story is that there was a hostel anti-trump sign on a neighbor's lawn, and she got according to him, got into some sort of an argument with the neighbor because it had a curse word on it saying f trump. and he called her a bad name during

this, the neighbor called her allegedly a bad name and i guess he's saying that she flew this flag as a statement second one look, this would appear to be a very provocative act by a justice of the supreme court to identify him, his household and his family with stop the steal with a coup overthrow the duly elected government of the united and even by his own story, he's telling me clear about what that means justice of the supreme court, a coup to overthrow the duly elected government. >> the same with justice thomas, whose wife has been a huge part of the stop the steal movement that both of these justices should recuse themselves from any more cases, especially the january 6 case, having to do with what happened at the capital and chief justice roberts, it seems to me, has a real responsibility two in private, talk to these

two justices, there's no mechanism that he would can use here is no code that supreme court has. look, i'm not naive enough to think that justice roberts will do what i'm recommending, but it's what ought to happen and let me say one more thing. this is not just about conservative lived liberal. let's look at the former justice. let's look at scalia and who voted with alito straight down the line with thomas straight down the line, nino scalia would know more do this than any other member of the court. this is unheard of it is behavior and conduct that undermines the majesty of the supreme court and its role and separation of powers in our system just doesn't matter that alito said that it was his wife who did it oh, i love that. i love that. my wife did the fact

of the matter is it's his house i mean, i could no more imagine a flag flying outside my house that i wouldn't notice. but again, the purpose of the appearance of impartiality, the purpose of the rule is not just for the litigants in the case, it's because it's about integrity of the court, the way the court appears to the public, the notion that this justice would do this at this time following january 6 given the fact that the supreme court the opinions of the supreme court have plummeted really is in your face. you can't touch me and i don't care. yes. there's a court has a code of ethics ethics which was adopted last year, but there is no enforcement mechanism. it's essentially would you please not do this? it's very different. i know that republicans are talking about sotomayor's book this was an intentional act after an insurrection, aligning himself with the insurrectionists what

is judge? >> what code don't do judges has, i mean, i've read the code that the supreme court justices signed off and often it's very vague. it doesn't really apply. there's nothing specific you can point to on that no, i mean, but it talks about not just partiality, right. do you have an interest in the case? do you have money would affect the outcome of your finances, but also the appearance of whether a reasonable person would think there would believe that you are biased and how much more clear are these two? this is a symbolic rendering of bias that again, it shows the impunity i was on the white house commission on the supreme court in one of the things that we worried about was that this is an enormously powerful court with an unenforceable code of ethics and we see that an enormously powerful court that it doesn't matter what the public believes. it's correlated, but not constrained by precedent and not constrained by rules. >> it's so much in karlan me that i mean, this wasn't some

photo that was taken of something that was on their mantle piece through the window of their living room. >> they they literally bring this up please read this project is by we've got to take a look at these case hello walking. the january 6 case so that the people of the united states, it looks like are not going to have a chance to see the trial of donald trump, judge, on these on these charges? did they have a right to see, judge, do you think there's any chance that the january 6 case will go to trial before the election not not not likely i keep on repeating this, but the notion that he would have intentionally done either of these things in the

face of the january 6 event and in the face of the way the supreme court's approval has plummeted is really extraordinary. >> and it says something this wasn't inadvertent. >> judge gardner, carl bernstein. thank you. coming up a barrage of russian missiles fired today on ukraine's second largest city, kharkiv, when missile strike killing several people, while the latest run along report ahead from ukraine plus nick paton walsh with a market will look at the fight there in a town near kharkiv that's on fire after russian strikes hit the russians were trying to spy on us. we were spying on them this is a war. >> but secret secrets and spies, a nuclear game premier sunday, june 2, the ten on cnn so far as they open me, get my money right to exceed my ambition like saving for an epic shubi with so fight

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outside at the city ukrainian troops, you're trying to hold back a russian advance. cnn's nick paton, walsh's with them on the front lines. we want to warn you some of the images you'll see her graphic here's his exclusive report some towns they can never let putin take this lyptsi is one of them destroyed artillery on the streets homes, aflame from an airstrike and only move at night. lots of it's a perilous grip they keep but lose here. and russian artillery will be in range of ukraine's second city, kharkiv. you can still smell the smoke here from an airstrike that landed just in the last hour or so this is life under the drone with a first reporters into the heart of the town jaimoe are only soldiers left here underground. the harb 13th national guard first tackled russia's new offensive assembly.

>> a bachelor step allied you can keep it all your doctor there were eight airstrikes just in the last hour. so we leave soon buzzing noise nearest very close. and the only way they know who's drone this is it it attacks that emerge stronger around kharkiv that don't have enough guns. and the russians have too many drones but 92nd assault brigade show us something that isn't even there's russian artillery piece that they captured in the first year of war and the fighting and our kyiv region. and now they use strangely french and mortar rounds too

far from here. just a sign of how little appropriate ammunition they have available to them. >> well, i think people are drawn of this wire as a protection from at pv drones above dc's a drone with two battery packs, a long-range scout around basement. >> it is not friendly if, you can tell it's an attack drone, hide this seems to be a scout. so running is better before it calls in shelling another, artillery unit wants to show us something not even russian, but soviet made in the 19 it can still fire newer polish shells. in the autumn, it was 100 a day. now it is ten extraordinary to see something here that's three times the age of either these two guys holding backer, new russian offensive in 2024. i said a metal so old that limits the number of times that sound

warns another drone is incoming and back in the bunker, they show us the online board $30 gadget that is their best warning mechanism team here embody ukraine's exhaustion and resilience older guys wounded infantry managed are tour has drone shrapnel in arms still no get along, pick option. >> you could do to that just saw an orlan russian drone passing overhead? so saying, but to stay inside on the, way back. into the city, we see what fuels this defense. this was a lakeside resort football cocktails, a beach extraordinary devastation and they had to collect the bodies mobile, mobile another body.

>> found later just fragments in the mulch russia's advance looms over whatever life person cysts here, belching out over holmes the dark is little salvation this smell maybe a drone being hit. >> but they kill two when they crash in failure flares breach the enforced blackout. moscow is getting nearer again and they're always too many blasts before dawn nick paton walsh, cnn kharkiv, ukraine ukraine's second-largest city next to cnn investigation, you've seen the images people shoplifting openly, sometimes gangs of people striking a store all at once tonight, how retailers are trying to fight back riyadh saves new album is breaking records gets to say what

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network, tons of packaged goods, some parts of the house looked like it was a store stolen from the local businesses, but it is nothing like the shoplifting you've seen in the past reason thieves recorded racing out with carts full of merchandise, even attacking store workers in the process. this is not somebody who forgot to scan something at self-checkout or somebody who stole food. this is a large criminal organization with multiple factors sean brown is not a cop. >> he works for home depot investigating organized retail crime. >> his job, a growing field and store chains as criminal organizations branch out from guns and drugs to stolen goods a cnn review of court records and interviews of more than two dozen retail chains and law enforcement horseman officials show that the private sector is not just helping the police but often delivering the initial evidence that leads to search

warrants. >> a lot of times local and state resources don't have the capacity to investigate these crimes at that scale and incomes we tried a full-service the investigations home depot gave us a glimpse of a model replicated by multiple major retailers across the us. >> this is their high-tech command center with electronic eyes on their stores throughout the country retailers have already moved beyond searching for the thieves uc and viral videos to their bosses they are the real targets known as the fences. >> these ring leaders operate as the fence of this merchandise where they're converting it to cash, drugs and other illicit items. >> it sounds like you're talking about them it often is conflated with what would be considered mob activities, bad actors will target specific merchandise usually directed by the ringleader, almost like a shopping list store chains have the financial muscle to deploy high-tech tracking like license plate readers and in-store

monitors, capturing the crime as it happens, we use a lot of different investigative tactics and technologies to ensure that we can build the absolute best case for law enforcement and prosecutors. the bad guys of the upper hand with respect to this issue. the sheer scale of organized store theft is so overwhelming, members of congress met with prosecutors and store chains looking for federal help. >> the organization and sophistication of these groups has grown exponentially in recent years. >> i think organized retail crime is one of the biggest issues that is facing our local economy this entire i'll, and the side is almost completely locked up yeah, not the way we would like to envision our rough electrical aisle for our customers are pro contractors, but this is what your typical home depot looks like. >> retail says brown has already locked down there merchandise impacting the consumer from inconvenience to higher prices this how would

they get past this though? >> we've had certain crews that have caught locks and cables and broken into some of the fixtures that we've built inside of our stores. >> what you see here is because the explosion of online shopping has made it easier than ever to move stolen merchandise sold to a consumer, hunting for a deal 20 years ago, i needed to store storefront in order to sell laundry detergent. now, i can do it from my phone california has now put hundreds of millions of dollars towards combating this problem. >> enabling law enforcement here in santa clara county to break up a major crime ring recovering $150,000 and stolen merchandise authority say from six retailers, how big of a heist was this? >> this happens daily across stores, even with all those measures, that you've got to see in a store, we're still impacted at this level and can rely joins me now from southern california. >> i mean, it's fascinating to see what they're doing home depot, why of local law enforcement agencies had such a

hard time with this well, it's really the difficulty of intelligence sharing a cross these different police agencies you think about a police agency somewhere in massachusetts trying to talk to one, maybe out here in arizona. >> so they have all of these disparate agencies. and the one thing that is unifying them when it comes to organize retail crime, anderson is that they are all backing local state as well as the retailers a federal bill. it is proposed at this stage is called the combating organized retail crime act. it would essentially create an intelligence sharing hub at the department of homeland security. but like so much in congress right now, this proposed bill, despite the fact that is bipartisan port is still languishing in congress and there are a lot of big box stores taking the measures of home depot that basically everybody that's what's really remarkable about this just on that one bus we were at the wrist six retailers, all of them companies that you know.

>> so if you walk into a big box retailer anywhere in this country, they probably have some type of law enforcement people, people who are investigative backgrounds trying to combat this very crime across state lines. >> cannula, thanks so much that national hurricane center released its official preseason forecast today and it's not good. they say we could see more storms than ever this year. cnn chief climate correspondent bill weird joins me now how bad is it? >> it's going to be busy. this is the most bullish forecast ever. they put out a list of 21 names to just get folks ready. and here they are from alberto to william. they're not predicting there could be up to 25 names. we could blow through this list this year, just on average was about 14 storms a year. anderson last year we had 20 back in 2020, if you remember? we had 30 storms. and so so the this is just ripe right now, they'd ocean temperatures, everything happening, but most alarming is they predict between four and

seven of these storms could be major category three or above. so it could be gordon or joy, sir milton could be a category. and they're pointing the finger at what climate change yes. >> it's i mean, look at this line graph of sea surface temperatures around the world last year was off the charts compared to recent years, the gray spaghetti at the bottom there, look at where we are right now. and if you look at a map temperatures, temperatures much higher and warm water is fuel of these storms that makes them bigger. and make some last longer. it brings rapid intensification. it's kinda hard to look at this map until you realize the blotches there as north and south america and those red bands there in the caribbean that is where hurricanes are born in the atlantic and they're off the charts because in part because the pacific is cooling as la nina comes, as it gets cooler in the pacific, odds of hurricanes in the atlantic go up right now. so this is all why they're saying we need to brace for a big one and so this would be more storms than we've

ever seen. could be. >> there's the science on whether it creates more storms is thin, but we definitely know that the storms are do form in that lactic are bigger and stronger and last longer how often are these accurate? i because i feel like i added in some past years they've made some predictions that turns out the season wasn't that bad. and then sometimes they say it's not gonna be that bad and it turns out to be terrible. >> they say they have an 85% certainty that this will be an above average season. so again, average is 14 right? there predicting up to 25. even, say more than that. >> yeah. thank you. provided it is hard to believe, but it's been nearly 19 years since hurricane katrina, hammer, noralyn, parts of mississippi along the gulf coast, killing more than 1,000 people. coming up. we've got a story for you about two of the storms young survivors, they were babies, then they were twins. you see them there? for now graduating high school. it's reunion with the man who the twin say saved and changed their lives forever. that's next riyadh.

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helped save their lives with their story here. stephanie you're on from hurricane evacuees. >> you got delayed class of 2020, more to high school graduates for twins, your mariana mari reynolds this is a moment that seemed improbable at the beginning of their lives, right now, hurricane katrina, look, in the summer of 2005, hurricane katrina ravaged new orleans, defeating many of the levees surrounding the city, flooding its streets and killing nearly 1,400 people. >> survivors, pot challenging circumstances to stay alive, we hadn't eaten and maybe six days, alexandria wheeler knowing she needed to find help for her 6.5 month old sons waited through the water her feet and countering unspeakable horrors and the turbid waters. there was so bodies collided like this when the trio finally made it to the convention center, turned makeshift

shelter in the muggy heat there were starving and dehydrated. >> the infants nearly limp. >> that's when lieutenant general russell honore, the decorated commander, who led the military response to hurricane katrina. >> tina and rita came to their aid washington de with looking at challenges and we were looking at a clock. it was a moment, cnn caught on camera. >> he was like, god's angel if it wasn't for him, we wouldn't be here today for years. wheeler says she tried to get in contact with the honore to thank him for his kindness. but it would take another storm, hurricane harvey, threatening their new home in houston in 2017 to bring them together again. >> was that as a moon at boys over here wheeler sent andre a message on social media and he responded, we don't even have words put inside my house that thank you enough ought to repeat back what you did. now, nearly 19 years after their life altering and counter

honore took time to celebrate the boy's achievement. >> professionally referred to you as the katrina twins because the world got to meet you that b but your mariana murray after a lifetime made possible by the man in uniform, are honouring honore each in his own way who would first mre and things see you. how be a future edition to the united states marine corps not to say that word who rock. >> i chose to be in a marine's because how watched over the video and i kept watching and inspired me to want to help people a lot more than jamal murray. >> i would like. thank you so much for your bravery, your help. that were they would survive. >> i'm going to college to do automotive engineering. how do you feel hearing that these two young men are pursuing these careers that have been inspired in part by you. >> i feel so ratify i mean, there's no greater service and the service to others the engineer that will change your

world and the marine that's good. freedom and democracy the twins now thriving after surviving hell and high water thanks to an undeterred mother. yeah, you're going to be because he knew your tenacity and a compassionate commander. but these young men will be game changers up so proud of you and anderson. >> this is the first time that the twins will not be living together, but they say they plan to stay in touch, stay close and take those lessons that they've learned from lieutenant general a honore. and hold them close to their heart stephanie alum reporting amazing to see hearts. >> i can't believe it's been 19 years and he's continues source for kaitlan collins starts now checking the source tonight, the former and