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keeping close tabs it's on how top republicans answer what should be a simple question. but the right answer could do on the wrong side of donald trump also, the foreign president is holding caracas campaign rally this evening in new york city. and a deep blue state that frankly is not in place for him in the white house. >> but he is hoping to make inroads with black and latino voters. >> my source is a congressman who represents the bronx where that rally was held also tonight, the hottest ticket in america is not a taylor swift concert. it's the white house state dinner a who's who of stars dignitaries, and four presidents wining and dining. as we speak. >> we've got the inside scoop and we'll go inside the source. >> i'm kaitlin collins and this this is the source election meet litmus this test, as we draw closer and closer to november, top republicans aren't just falling in line. >> there also falling over themselves to appease the party's presumptive nominee. a

new trend is taking place to not only cast doubt about the last election, but to also raise questions about the next one. and 2024 we are watching its top republicans are declining to answer a straightforward question. or at least toasting themselves into pretzels when they are asked about committing to the accepting the election results no matter what happens, no, if it's an unfair election, i think it's going to be bad side. yeah, i'll accept them but i think yeah. >> there's no massive cheating. >> the 47th president united states movie donald trump, yes or no. will you accept the election results of 2024, no matter who wins? >> that is my statement and what a statement that truly is. >> then in addition to what you just saw, their here on the source last night, you saw another prominent senator joining in that effort. texas senator ted cruz, as we remember, was the first senator to object to certify and the results in 2020 for arizona. he

was also in the building on january 6. rioters stormed inside and lawmakers were forced into hiding. here's part of our exchange. we asked him that question last night. will you accept the results regardless of who wins the election? >> so caitlin, i got to say, i think that's actually a ridiculous question is a yes or no question. >> no, it's not. so you're asking, will you promise? no matter what to agree an election as illegitimate regardless of what happens. and that would be an absurd thing to claim. the media engages in this weird game post, donald trump that you insist no voter-fraud has ever existed why does every state have laws in place to challenge voter-fraud if it occurs, the medial an election challenge isn't again hey, there was no one again, only ask republicans that you look into tried to block the transition of power. you have to acknowledge that we've never seen it on a scale of what happened in 2020. and we've never seen the president

refused. he wouldn't even let joe biden get classified briefings at the beginning, i recall that. so let me my question for you again free and fair election. will you accept the results regardless of who wins? >> look, if the democrats, when i will accept the result, but i'm not going to ignore fraud, but was or what have 20 of course, there was fraud, no, that wasn't. >> and you still objected as. has been made clear, there was no material fraud that would have altered the outcome of the 2020 election. thompson department of homeland security said that the 2020 vote was one of the most secure in history. dozens of law lawsuits contesting the election were dismissed and dropped because of a lack of evidence black a standing by courts across the country trump's own attorney general, bill barr, someone who has said that despite everything that happened, he is still voting for donald trump this november described it as playing a game of whack-a-mole to run down the avalanche of false claims of fraud that were coming into the justice department senator ted cruz, of course, is aware of all of

that. >> and he's also deeply familiar with trump's false claims about losing elections in 20168 years ago trump actually accused crews of stealing the iowa caucuses that he one donald finds it very hard to loose donald trump guaranteed a victory in ireland. >> and then he lost and he doesn't like that. what donald does when he loses is he blames everybody else. it's never donalds fault it's always somebody else. also has fallen it's pretty remarkable to see that of course crews not embracing trump's claims of fraud, then aileen political sources tonight are both san and political commentators, former obama administration official, van jones, and also the former republican lieutenant governor of georgia, geoff duncan, who i should note was among those pressured by trump and his allies to change the 2020 results. >> and jeff just given that you know, have you ever what i'm

struck by is that it is such a simple and straightforward question that so many republicans have a difficulty answering these days it was so painful to sit here and listen to all those audio clips have just everybody tying themselves and pretzels i mean, i flipped the script back on ted cruz and say, just spend that hot air that you just spent trying to twist around. and it actually lay out some proof. i mean, we're almost four years into this and there's not one ounce or shred approved that anything happened other than a fair and legal election in georgia and every are everywhere else in the country was or anomaly certainly, but there was never been an election that's been more scrutinized in the georgia election. and look, this is painful to watch. it takes you back to your high school days where somebody wants to be in the cool kids clubs so bad they will do and say anything that eventually they look back and say that was a huge mistake there's not an if it's when republicans will recognize donald trump is the biggest stain on our parties history. >> then do you think that'll that'll happen that it is not an if but a when of republicans

for grunting, how they answer that question well and in the fullness of time, i hope so mainly because the thing that strikes me about ted cruz is those are not the answers of a patriot patriot defends the integrity of american institutions of american democracy. >> it's geopolitical adversaries that want people to not believe that america is a fair place to not believe in our institutions ted cruz until a few years ago, called himself a patriot. what kind of patriot won't even defend the most prized democratic experience experiment in history. american democracy. he won't even defend it. he won't even just say the simple truth, which is that we do a good job in this country. those poll workers do a good job in this country. people in both parties do a good job of counting these vaults. and we are the envy of the world. he won't even

defend american democracy. b wants to be called the patriot but geoff, georgia is one of the states that altered its voting laws since the 2020 election. we've talked to georgia governor brian kemp about that multiple times here on the show. i mean, we have seen where it led to changes in election laws in certain states. and as senator cruz pointed out last night, if there is an issue with an election because obviously we don't want there to be material fraud in our elections. there's a place to adjudicate that to deal with that. and it's a court. and what happened when donald trump and his allies and rudy giuliani took it to court, was they failed everything was thrown out. they were all dropped there's a process in place to modernize elections as we go forward in time and spend as long as i can remember in certainly in the past election cycle, we did that, we looked at some of the anomalies that were in place, both democrat and republican ideas came together. >> but that's what we constantly do in america. we are willing and able to update those laws house, but look, this whole thing started because donald trump lost and

he didn't lose for any other reason than he was the worst candidate and the world and republicans specifically republicans in the suburbs, figured out he's a snake oil salesman and he acted like he was a republican for four years, but he didn't he wasn't he was fake. he added $8 trillion worth of debt. what he said he wouldn't. he built a selfie station the wall instead of actually building a wall, he acted like a clown around the world. and he had self-serving interests in every meeting that he had, other than that, he was decent, i guess. right. but we saw through it and anybody who thinks that the suburbs are going to come back and vote for him again, haven't wrong. if we give donald trump four more years in the white house, it's like giving a drug addict drugs to fix the problem. we know what we have to do. we have to get rid of them and move on as a party well, i mean, the question is how people deal with as and i wonder what your responses to what you heard from senator cruz there. >> and we've heard this from other republicans. is they point to comments made by people like stacey abrams frozen georgia, and hillary clinton. of course, hillary clinton gave a concession

speech. we all watched it after the 2016 election they do use those moments though in these arguments to say well, it's the same thing even though of course john kerry never condoned what was happening. joe biden when he was vice president and certified the election and the results of it on capitol hill well, i mean, you can cherry pick. >> unfortunate comments from anybody hillary clinton, anybody else? nobody's perfect. but the question is, when it's all said and done do you do the thing that we've always done? you give your concession speech, you shake hands. well, we want our kids way after the end of the basketball game, after the end of little league, they align up, they shake hands. i appreciate each other. they come back the next set sunday necessarily try and do it again. they try and do better they got republican party failing kindergarten now, on just basic decency, basic fair play. and i sure. you can cherry pick, but it's interesting to me, you don't cherry pick anything else

democrats do to defend republicans. >> so why is this one behavior? >> a couple of people and also, i remember in the year chief thousand i'm old enough to remember in 2000 al gore coming before the country, when it was clear to us as democrats that he had been robbed and ripped off and mistreated by the supreme court. we were angry. people would have gone to the streets in an instant, and al gore said, i accept the supreme court's decision let's move forward. it was an act of courage. it was an act of patriotism. and we've seen nothing of the kind from this republican party, despite the fact that there's plenty of evidence at al gore could have pointed to and none that they can point to. so what is, what is patriotism mean if you only love the country when you win, you're not a patriot and jeff that's what is kinda confounding about. >> this is i was looking at how different republicans have answered this. senator jd vance in an interview, i believe with dana bash said, yeah, if it's a free and fair election republicans will louisiana sickly it accept the results of

it. but why is it so difficult for the others to just say yes? to that question because they're addicted to the hot burning spotlight that follows donald trump and they spent their life trying to chase that spotlight for themselves, but they realized that they want to stay in it. >> they gotta get close to donald trump. and so that's just more important to them. and doing the right thing. this is this is crazy to watch these individuals twist themselves in a pretzels and that's really what does lead me. if we're going to see a gop to 0.0, if we're going to see it republican party get back on its feet. it's not going to include donald trump and we've got to beat them right here in his tracks and move on. that's the reason why supporting joe biden as a lifelong republican who plans to continue to be a republican is supporting joe biden because not because i agree with his policies, but because he's going to give us a chance to move on past donald trump, no matter who wins in this election, if you're a hard-core republican, like i am, who's not angry, just conservative. you lose either way there. joe biden wins, or donald trump wins. either way,

we don't get our voices heard through our policies van. >> there was a lot in this interview that we did with senator cruz is probably 30 minutes having commercial break. there was a commercial break in-between, but we talked that ivf we talked about abortion, and we talked about what came out in trump's trial with the national enquirer, which crews he was right about in 2016, trump and david pecker, we're coordinating these vicious, ugly lies about him. and we talked about whether or not he felt vindicated by that testimony. but the other thing we talked about with nikki haley because she came out yesterday, said she would vote for donald trump after she was in a similar position to cruise. so one was who was a hearty critical of donald trump's and then turned around, i just want everyone to listen to how ted cruz talked about being in the position that nikki haley now finds herself in do you empathize with her? >> she's in a similar position to you. >> i understand that journey and i was in that position now she didn't win any states, but she was the last person i'm standing i understand. and

that's and she was in a hard-fought primary. i i have been in that spot and it took some time for me to decide what to do and i did not initially endorsed donald trump and i said at the time i said, listen, i'm not sure what trump will do it. office. i don't know if it'd be a conservative or not, but i know what hillary is promising to do and what she's promising to do. i think would be really harmful. so i'm going to make the decision to go with someone who is saying he will do good things. and i'm gonna do everything i can to help encourage them to do that. we've seen what do you make of that response? >> van? >> i mean i think that's frankly close to the truth for ted cruz. i mean, we we were all there. we watched them struggle. he tried to give a speech in front of the republican convention and not endorse donald trump was really trying not to adorn entrepreneur, eventually came around and coughed up the fireball and now he's a loyal part of the kool-aid called. but i think he's i don't think he's wrong and describing that process but i think the

conclusion that he came to was wrong then i think nikki, haley's come to the wrong conclusion. now, we need more people like our colleague here, who say what they mean and mean what they say if you tell him erica, that this person is completely unqualified in a threat to the country. and then tomorrow say, but i'm now going to vote for him on his team. >> it makes politics seem like professional wrestling, where it's just, nobody is actually on the level. >> it's all just a game. it's all just, you could turn. he'll at any moment, it's all for entertainment. and that is also destructive of american democracy, political parties need to stand for principles when they're popular, when they're not. and political leaders need to lead when it's hard and when it's easy. and what we have is neither we are political parties that go whichever way. at least in the republican camp go whichever way donald trump goes today and then they say stuff that they won't stick up for the next day and that is also destructive of american democracy.

>> van jones, geoff duncan, great to have you both here to start off the show tonight thanks, caitlin meanwhile, here in new york, there was a rare trump rally in new york city. >> not exactly trump country, of course. >> but trump is instead of one of the heart of one of the deepest blue states. >> and we'll tell you why. also the former president's latest claims while evan gershkovich, who is the one while street journal reporter being wrongfully detained in russia. now, over a year, his fourth and final national security adviser will join me when the competition is a nuclear competition. >> spying is extraordinarily important the russians were trying to spy on us. >> we were spying on them it's very difficult to determine whom you can trust i was studying right everything got out of control this is a war the secret was secrets and spies, a nuclear game premier sunday, june 2, that ten on cnn

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the bronx who would think i'm thrilled to be back in the city? >> yeah, i grew up in there is the presumptive republican nominee on stage and a borough of new york city that he lost. i should note, by almost 68 points in 2020 and a state that no republican has one since 1984. but trump stop here at tonight, has very little to do with actually winning the bronx or even really new york, despite but he says, the former president is hoping to continue making inroads that could pave his path to the white house come november reminder, the bronx is 64% hispanic. president biden won the majority of hispanic voters in 2020. but what we've seen a new numbers and of course these are just a snapshot of where the country is right now. show the biden trump are essentially tied for those voters right now. trump is polling it. what would be the highest level of block support for any republican presidential candidate since 1960. for my source on this tonight is the

democrat who represents the south bronx congressman ritchie torres and congressman it's great to have you here on the source. you're a bronx democrat. donald trump is arguing he thinks new york could be in play for him i mean, he is famously delusional. >> i mean, the bronx is the antithesis of trump country. it's anti-trump country. i think we in the bronx, no stranger to donald trump. we know these fundamentally a fraud and i'm confident that most bronk sites are not going to buy the snake oil that he's selling and keep in mind that we're not for the fact that he's facing criminal prosecution in new york city. he would never be caught dead. a campaigning in the bronx. he's a criminal suspect with 91 felony counts. his highest priority is not the people of the bronx, it's his own self-preservation. >> yeah. but i mean, he did have a pretty sizable audience. their tonight, and a crowd. i mean, we were watching the rally earlier as you just talk about this, he even seem to be surprised by the amount of people that showed up. we had reporters out there talking to voters and some of them are

open to voted for a republican. and i wonder, given you know, these people incredibly wells you represent them what you make of that look, he might make gains at the margins a little keep in mind, the rally was, was largely unrepresentative of the bronx. >> the bronx is almost exclusively latino and african american, and there was far less diversity in his rally. but look, he might make gains at the margins, but i'm confident in the end the bronx is gonna vote overwhelmingly democratic because joe biden has delivered for the bronx. one example is we have the highest rates of diabetes and the bronx, joe biden cap the price of insulin at $35 a month for senior citizens on medicare, which is a life's change, your life changer and saver for the bronx, which has some of the highest rates of diabetes. >> yeah. and you mentioned the margins. the margins are going to really matter in 2024 from everything we've looked at so far. >> and how this has gone. and the other part of both the bronx is it's one of the poorest, if not the poorest district in the united states. and 35% of people live below

the poverty line there i was looking into the numbers from the census data. there obviously inflation cripples, families like that. i mean, no, they don't have any extra spending room or money in their budgets and what we hear from voters is that they don't feel like the white house fully registers how they're feeling about that. >> i wonder what you think president biden should do differently to address that? look, i think the president has a success story to tell. he should come to the bronx and tell it. but he has delivered for the people the bronx from the moment he is the presidency, he created 15 million jobs compared to the 2.9 million jobs that were lost under donald trump. donald trump deceptively markets himself as a tax cutter he imposed the largest tax increase on new york in recent history, the loss of salt deductibility cost us 15 billion in revenue. we as new yorkers are paying more in taxes, were receiving less than services because of donald trump. so president biden has a

story to tell, and i agree that needs to be improved messaging. >> do you think he should he should president biden should come to the wrong should come to the bronx i'm in the bronx is is is the most democratic county in america and we would more than welcome him because if you can make your policies work in the bronx, you can make them work anywhere in america. had you have you had any conversations the white house about that because you've cited those numbers and we hear that from the white else they get asked this question all the, all the time and they look at these poll numbers as well, even though of course, president biden loves to dismiss them, he's not a big fan of the poll numbers, but the question is, is it breaking through and it's not so how do they change that besides just saying this is what we've done. here's how it's benefited you. how do you make people feel that? >> look i think the most powerful example is the cost of pharmaceuticals president biden's the first president in recent history to empower the federal government to do shape more affordable drug prices for seniors senior citizens on medicare like that's the kind of policy that has a real

impact in improving people's ability the to afford the cost of living in new york city. >> what about latino voters? because you've mentioned them as well and 65% of residents and your district are hispanic, 31% are black according to the us census data those are also numbers that we see. they helped president biden get into the white house in 2020 now we are seeing in polls that he is very clear close with donald trump in that, what do you attribute that to keep in mind that the latino vote historically has been bipartisan. >> in the 2000 election, george w bush, one 40% of the latino vote and we have to keep in mind that the latino community is hardly a monolith. the dominicans and puerto ricans in the south bronx are quite different from the cubans, venezuelans, in florida who are quite different from the mexicans and california were quite different from the mexicans and southern texas and so we have to be careful not to paint a community as variegated as the latino community was brought to your community and what you hear, i think mike the community is going to be overwhelmingly for biden. no question. i mean, if you do

polling among likely voters in the south bronx, donald trump is so unpopular as to be radioactive and he's less popular than the boston red sox in the bronx. >> so you don't have any concerns about what those margins could look like in 2024? and how that could affect what the race looks like ultimately. >> look, we should not take any county, any state for granted. we should have 50 state strategy and it would be powerful if president biden came to the bronx and we would welcome them with open arms so it's great to have you, your red socks joke. >> i'm sure jumbo love that. thank you for being here. great to have you on your source for the first time. >> speaking of the former president, he is making quite a new claim on social media tonight saying that he can get russian president putin to free the american journal let's two moles street journal reporter evan gershkovich, who has been wrongfully detained. >> they're more than a year. >> but only if he's reelected, we'll talk to trump's former national security adviser in n o

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that president zelenskyy dismissed and also said was dangerous my source tonight is robert o'brien, who served as the fourth and final national security adviser, and also as the us hostage negotiator. so ambassador, it's great to have you here and given your experience with hostage negotiations and americans who are wrongfully detained abroad you know, how difficult this is and how sensitive and nuanced these conversations are. i think some people may look at this and say, okay, well, that's putting a political lens on it for trump to say that only it will happen if he's reelected president well, thanks, kaitlyn. thanks for having me on tonight. i think one of the things that president trump understands, and even the left the haters gave him credit for this. he brought home an unparalleled number of american citizens either hostages or wrongful detainees when he was president. and he did it without paying ransom and he did it without the big prisoner exchanges that we've seen of this administration. so i think the point he's making with evan is it the united states has a lot of tools to bring

back wrongful detainees. and with russia, we've got some really significant tools. first, we have medicean sanctions, and those have not been used by the biden administration to to encourage the russians or pressure the russians really seven number two, we could sanction the russian federation central bank, which we've never done. and so russia is actually made money sign oil on its war with ukraine because we haven't sanctioned russian federation central bank there. number three, we know there are, there are russian spies and organized crime syndicate members all over america. >> russians usually want to get those people home if they're picked up. >> we could bring we could pick up several those folks. i don't wanna get into who they are and sources and methods and that sort of thing. but we can certainly pick up some people that are important to vladimir putin and trade those back to havighurst us. now none of these things have been none of these tools have been used by the biden ministration, which is kinda shocking. i mean, roger carson's is a great negotiator and i friend of mine and i think i live in the current speed the current hostage envoy but the biden administration is basically sandi hash takes from tony blake and saying free evan

well, the hadamard, putin's a tough guy, is a thug, and he's not going to respond to the twitter hashtag or twitter campaign. he's gonna respond to real hard american hard power. i think president trump understands that, and that's how we got so many people out of russia. we got people out of r& we got people out of turkey we've got the ada yemen across venezuela, across the board under the trump administration when i was supposed hostage envoy, national security adviser, because president trump was willing to use all the tools of american power, including hard power, to get our people home yeah, i mean, it reminded me though of when trump said that he had an opportunity to exchange paul whelan, who is still wrongfully detained in russia in exchange for victor booed who of course, was ultimately part of that exchange with brittney griner with president biden was in office. but let me ask you, ambassador, because you just got back from a trip to israel where are you met with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu and other top officials? >> netanyahu obviously is right now facing a lot of pressure at home to secure the release of the hostages who are still being held in gaza. also over

how he is conducting the war in gaza what, what can you tell us about what he said to you? >> well, i think benjamin netanyahu understands that we've got to put pressure on hamas to bring the hostages home, as long as there's no pressure on hamas, they're going to keep the hostages and try and use them as leverage against the israeli people, try and drive israeli public opinion and trying to extract concessions from israel so this heinous act where they when captured hostages, many women commit, it's terrible sexual violence against some. we know they committed sexual violence in captivity against and we've known that from hostages have been released and they're using these hostages is pons, i think that now he understands he's got to put pressure of military pressure on hamas. and that's the only thing that's going to bring hamas to the table to negotiate about bringing them home. >> did he say that it's important sorry, go ahead. >> now i met with one of the. hostage families and i've got a lot of experience dealing the hostage families is caitlin and it's just heartbreaking my heart goes out to the family of

a hostage who was died in captivity. and hamas want releases remains so he can't be buried in peace. he can't rest in peace and israel in the jewish religion, it's important to get very, very quickly after death. but hamas is holding them to try and secure the release of terrorists. and it's heartbreaking down those conversations as you can imagine. >> yeah, it's devastating. i mean, i've spent a lot of time there after october 7 and those conversations are so painful and for those families and when you hear about that day and obviously how it's completely marked in israeli history now, trump has always argued that he thinks that wouldn't have happened had he been an office, i wonder if you agree with that i do agree with that. i said that in israel to the israeli officials and the israeli public, why do you think this is? because peace through strength works and it's not just a cliche. and we had no doors that are didn't expand any wars under trump. that was the first time since jimmy carter that, that happened we

had peace treaties and serbia, kosovo, the golf rift with the emirates and qatar. we of course had the historic abraham accords because america was strong and keep in mind hamas is a total proxy of iran hamas wouldn't do anything without permission from ran. same with hezbollah. and so around would have never taken the they chance to attack israel, this heinous way, the worst attack on jews since the holocaust in europe. they would never done that with trump in office because they know the response would have been overwhelming and devastating. and going back to your point about the hostages, keep in mind, kaitlyn, some of the tosses or american at least five of them, there are still alive, we believe are american whereas delta force, whereas the seal team six where, where's our effort to go get those hostages back? 30 americans were killed. >> we needed isis like 3d tomasa, the isis caliphate and destroy it and then that'll give the palestinian people a chance to live in peace and maybe some a little bit of freedom. >> but we've got to remain a

very troublesome issue. >> but, but on what you just said that you do agree with former president trump that that day wouldn't have happened had he been president. when you said that and express that sentiment when you were there, did prime minister netanyahu agree with you? >> prime minister netanyahu was a real problem. i made it clear i was there's an american citizen and private citizen not on behalf of president trump. he didn't send me i was here to get educated on what's happening and to see some is that really friends who we negotiate, the abraham accords with and see how those allen, during those accords were. but also to get a close-up view like you did the music the festival, and they could put some on the guys in the gaza envelope. that were so brutally attacked. and so i certainly express that, but prime minister netanyahu is a real problem. he understands that there's one president at the time of the united states and the present today's joe biden. and so he wasn't going to react to that and no one's going to and israel, there, they understand the the diplomatic niceties of relations between the us and israel. yeah. >> and one thing i did, i told

i told them as well as look, we have policy disagreements with the biden administration. >> jake sullivan happened to be there coincidentally the same time i was so he was leaving meetings as i was coming into meetings jake sullivan be my successor is the national security advisor, but i told my it's israeli friends like we disagree dramatically on policy, especially in the middle east, and that the appeasement of iran and the pay the ransom to their radians and turning a blind eye of the sanctions, relief for ran but it's important for the israelis to maintain a close bond with the united states of america that our adversaries want to see a wedge between israel and the united states. and so whoever the president as well as president biden, the president trump, the israelis to maintain a close relationship with the united states. and that's a message i sent them ambassador robert o'brien. thank you for coming on tonight to talk about your trip thank you for having me, kayla. meanwhile, tonight back here in the united states, louisiana, just pass another set of restrictions on abortion pills will tell you what the state legislature did my next source will also share her deeply personal story on how

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in possession of these drugs without a prescription could face eight felony charge and up to ten years in prison as a result, well, to this new legislation of course, abortion is already banned in the state of louisiana with no exceptions, i should note for rape or incest medical professionals are warning that on top of that, this bill could spark confusion and even potentially delays and providing timely emergency care that's something that my source tonight, kaitlan joshua has personally experienced in that state when she had a miscarriage. i should know she's now working with the biden campaign and kaitlan joins me tonight and kaitlan first, i just want to say thank you for coming on to talk about something that is so personal and also so painful and being willing to talk about it publicly. >> because for those who aren't familiar with your story, when you became pregnant, you were told to wait weeks for your first prenatal appointment because of that abortion law that i just mentioned there. >> can you just walk us through what happened to you? yes.

thank you again for having me on this evening. hesitant. i found out that we were extending the summer of 2022. >> we were extremely thrilled. >> i moved to call my provider and schedule my first prenatal appointment, but was denied that prenatal appointment. as a result of the time was the recent dobbs decision? in the provider's office basically told me that they were not seeing patients until that 12 week mark just to try to mitigate a bit of the medical liability that comes with seeing patients before that 12 weeks. unfortunately, my husband and i did not make it till 12 weeks. i miscarried right around 11 unfortunately, went to several different medical providers in my city to be able to get care. i knew that i was miscarried at the time, but unfortunately, no one would tell me that. right? no one would find it on paper or explain what was happening with my body and ultimately, the first hospital that i went to sent me home with prayers. the psych hospital that i went to deny any type procedure or at the time medication, abortion, to be able to pass my pregnancy

with dignity. and i was left to pass it at home by myself. it took weeks on end to be able to do that. i'm just advocating for women across this country so that they do not have to face the same implications that come into play as a result of an abortion ban i mean, to hear you say that it took weeks and just to think of how painful and challenging that period must have been, i think it's hard for a lot of people to even fathom having to go through that yes. and unfortunately, it is around eight that we are seeing play out all across this country right now and so when you, when you look back on your experience and what happened and then you see what happened today with the legislation that passed designating these abortion pills as dangerous, controlled substances. >> i mean, this is something that the fba fda has studied it. says is overwhelmingly safe and not dependent, doesn't have a dependency potential like the other drugs that i was just talking about. >> i mean, what's your reaction to that? i am absolutely

infuriated. i think that we are seeing firsthand the policies in which donald trump first was able to overturn roe versus wade decision coming down and ultimately states across this country, seeing abortion ban put outright in real time right? and essentially we know that we have loud all trying to get back into that way house. we're going to look at what was happening in louisiana as could be happening all across this country. and it is infuriating. >> i certainly believe that in a state that has such terrible maternal morbidity rates has terrible fetal morbidity rates. >> we are going backwards and essentially i'm not align with internet access tended to help care that they need in dire situations. this is medication on both mifepristone and misoprostol is already as you alluded to preside all the time, thousands of times a day to manage miscarriages, treatments, and let are my story and handle post-partum hemorrhaging and a host of

other reasons right. a host of other issues that women stays during whenever they went to the doctor routine biopsies, you name it, list is very long and to see that my seat past to fail, that's an president's not just for the south or from this country. and essentially it's taking a step back and putting what women's lives at risk just to check a box and for what reason we are unsure, but what we do it is so important that women and men, in this moment understand that this too could be your state. and we've got to do whatever we can to make sure that we get president biden and vice president harris back in the white house, restore roe and do away with these draconian laws that we are seeing across this country? well, katelyn you live in louisiana, this is something that you've had to deal with my home state of alabama right next door. abortion is also totally banned. they're and you were just talking here on the show last night about what happened with ivf clinics after a decision by the supreme court, there and they're ruling i think a lot of people may not understand what is it like to be a woman in the south, right

now is fighting it's a feeling that i don't want to feel and it wants us to understand right now, there's this idea that is you little deceased equal that you don't need to worry about. a federal abortion aid. but essentially we know will allow for the same things that we're experiencing in louisiana, the same things we're experiencing, and alabama's be happening all over this country and they're not a maga republican not going to stop. it's just ids or contraception or what we're seeing right now playing out is scheduling jobs that are miss appropriately scheduled and essentially putting so many women size at rescue a window, we will see where it here. >> as a result of this law being enacted in louisiana today. >> and it is just so frightening and frustrating all the things. but when overarching message that i'm hoping to convey is that folks plug-in and understand that we've got to do what we need to do this fall to make sure that we liked. and president biden, vice president here is to make sure that we restore roe versus

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tonight, you are seeing the first images of the grammy winning country star brad paisley performing at the white house state dinner white house is hosting hollywood stars, sports icons, and washington bigwigs as part of president biden's state dinner, welcoming that kenyan president william ruto and his wife as you can see here, as we always watch to see who was invited to the state dinner. >> there are some big names that we noted, walked across that carpet and into the white house actor and director sean penn, former president bill clinton, and former secretary of state hillary clinton, the nfl commissioner roger goodell, also nba commissioner adam silver. plus there was a brief cameo appearance from former president barack obama my inside source tonight is all too familiar with what it's like to plan a state dinner, given it was his job as social secretary to president obama. debris bernard is back with us and it's great to have you because this is an interest. all say, dinners and my view

are interesting, but this one's also notable because it's the first state visit that a us president has held for a president of an african nation since 2000 the night, and i just wonder when you are doing something like that, it's not even just your average state dinner. what's the most important part when it comes to nailing it? >> it's good question there most important part is actually to just make sure everything goes as planned. and that's true with all of the state dinners because they're all very important this would it is the 60th anniversary of our relation with kenya. so this has a special importance and it looks beautiful from what i can see. it's done at a pavilion this time on the south lawn, which means you can get more guests, but you can't get technically cannot get the white house. china has to be rental oh, oh, wait. >> why is that they're curator doesn't does not allow for the china to be outside of the

white house and doesn't consider a temporary pavilion, or, tend to be part of the, of the white house property or the mansion. >> so you're not allowed to use i think we broke that one time because i think we use the rig and china, but i know those are the rules and i believe that's the rule tonight. >> that's so interesting, you learned something i covered the white house for six years. i didn't know that you learned something new every day because they are in this brad paisley joked that it kind of greenhouse out there. we saw all of the major floral arrangements and obviously brad paisley is someone he's a beloved country singer. how do you decide who the, and i should note howard's gospel choir there is also there. that's you're looking at right now. but how does how do you decide who the musical act is going to be at a state dinner well, after you find out what the preference is, r of the guest, which was gospel and

country music. >> then you can narrow it down. finch who available and who you've used before. >> we first use brad paisley for july 4 event. and then after that, i think he was at several different things. so he's really wonderful to work with and i completely understand. he's talented. he's good, and he's easy to work with. you can't ask for better yeah. >> he's a great guy obviously beloved. i should note also your former boss so is there a president obama we didn't catch him on the carpet. he obviously must have snuck through, will see if there's any photos of him being there. jeremy bernard, though. >> what a special thing to look at and thank you as always for joining us and for giving us the inside source information, including about the white house china. >> it's great to have you thank you. and i'm not certain. i don't believe president obama is attending the dinner, but all right. could be wrong. >> no, i think you're ri