country music. >> then you can narrow it down. finch who available and who you've used before. >> we first use brad paisley for july 4 event. and then after that, i think he was at several different things. so he's really wonderful to work with and i completely understand. he's talented. he's good, and he's easy to work with. you can't ask for better yeah. >> he's a great guy obviously beloved. i should note also your former boss so is there a president obama we didn't catch him on the carpet. he obviously must have snuck through, will see if there's any photos of him being there. jeremy bernard, though. >> what a special thing to look at and thank you as always for joining us and for giving us the inside source information, including about the white house china. >> it's great to have you thank you. and i'm not certain. i don't believe president obama is attending the dinner, but all right. could be wrong. >> no, i think you're right. i think he just stumped by

briefly, but he's not staying for the dinner. jerry bernard, great to have you do for that and thank you all so much for joining us. cnn news, node starts right now donald trump's pitch to black voters versus the real story that's tonight on these value good evening. >> i'm abby phillip in new york and tonight, the former president goes home. he was right here in new york rallying a crowd of thousands, promising a new york turnaround i've seen new york through good times and bad through boom times and crime waves through market crashes and terrorist attacks but i've never seen it quite like this right now. you don't have public spaces. >> they're occupied by migrants, intense that happened

in the bronx. >> what is historically the most democratic burrow in the city, and lead us to say it is an unlikely spot for a republican to campaign obama won by 81, 91% let the vote here in 2012, biden won nearly 84% in 2020. but trump sees an opportunity and opening with black and hispanic voters. even as he makes a post racial appeal it doesn't matter whether you're black or brown or white, or whatever the hell color you are. it doesn't matter. >> we are all americans and we're going to pull together as americans trump painted a picture of american carnage under biden while telling black voters that they were better off when he was president in nearly every way everyone was better off. >> we had the greatest economy in history. we had the best poverty rate in terms of the positive number ever in our

history for black americans and hispanic americans everybody had the best they've ever had african american jobs were the best in history but of course, we've got a fact check it because it's simply not true. >> here's what the census bureau data says about the poverty rate among black americans. as you can see there in the chart, it hit a historic low in 2022 2022171, 171.1%. that was when joe biden let's precedent, not donald trump and jobs well, were black americans, better off under trump that's not true either. the data, again, from the bureau of labor statistics shows unemployment for black americans hitting a record low in 2023, 2023, of course, was when joe biden was president as well tonight, we have a news night conversation with congressman byron donalds, a republican from florida. he's been rumored to be a potential trump vice presidential pick, and he's here in the studio with us congressman. why does former president trump keep repeating those statistics that

are very easy to fact check and are not true. >> well, a couple of things i'll be versus good to be with you. now let me say it is it is without question whether you're black, brown, white doesn't matter. we were all doing better under donald trump. you might want to look at rajab numbers, but a lot of those jobs are part-time jobs, not full-time jobs, not career jobs that help people actually changing. >> right? i mean, those are pretty clear but here's one thing that is critical. the when you do wages adjusted for inflation, that is down. and so you might be making more money, but you're paying significantly more for the goods and products that you use every day. that's affecting every american's. it's hurting black americans and hispanic americans more than any other group. and that's the fundamental problem with if bidenomics. and that's why he is being rejected by, i hear what you're saying about inflation and it's certainly true that inflation's obviously a huge issue. but on the issue of whether or not black unemployment is higher or lower under biden or trump. it is just a fact that it is lower under biden so trump can make a

case to black voters, but he shouldn't be lying about it. >> well, here's the fundamental case when you're talking about economics, do you have a job that's an important thing, but are you making enough money to get ahead? do you have more disposable income? is there a pathway to building generational wealth that is not possible under the joe biden economy, it's been a disaster for virtually all americans except the very rich. i do want to ask you about when asked in fact of that, which is about student loans, because that's an issue that actually matters to quite a lot of black voters. >> the biden administration is pursued a policy of trying to find student loan forgiveness basically, wherever they can this is something that clearly disproportionately benefits black and brown borrowers, they over an average of $25,000 more in student debt than white borrowers is that a policy that i shouldn't black voters be looking at that when they're looking at who's going to put forward policies that benefit them? no, i don't think so. i think number one policy, especially if you have a college degree, is the economy thriving? is it robust enough

where i can use that degree to earn more money from my own benefit, from my family's benefit. but number two, and this is the most important thing. joe biden doesn't have the authority to do this to supreme court has told him no, congress has told them a, told him no, but he's done it anyway, that is a violation of separation of powers. you just don't get to pick choose what money you're going to spend some place. because two-thirds of the american people, which also includes a lot of black people and a lot of hispanic people. they did not go to college. and so what you're telling those people are it didn't matter if you can get and go to college, but we're going to go ahead and give a bailout to some people who did. that's not right. it's not fair. it is not something that the american, american people want to see the racial wealth gap in, in terms of who owes what for higher education do you believe that some of that is due to just longstanding disparities and what black families have generational wealth that white families were able to build up, that black families were not. and do you think that the government should play any role in it? trying to help black borrowers catch up.

>> well there's a couple of things in that when you talk about generational wealth gaps. yes, some of it is did did my mother or my grandmother have any wealth to paths pass on to me? that answer was no. the wall from building that was something that my wife and i are building with our families. there's a lot of life families that are doing that right now. a lot of mixed families, a lot of hispanics families, that's how happening today. >> you can't fault people who were able to pass wealth on before what you can do is menchu their opportunity to tough fall when you talk about the wealth gap amongst races, you are talking about previous examples where other families were able to build wealth and pass it on. >> so that's why for a lot of black men in particular, for men in general, they're talking about building generational wealth. that's not something that government can help you do, except for the government having a proper rules and a proper policies for the economy to grow and thrive. >> i want to play a little bit of what donald trump said. not so long ago. i'm sure you remember it. take a listen. >> i got indicted a second time or third time and a fourth time and a lot of people said that

that's why the black people like because they have been hurt so badly and discriminated against. and they actually viewed me as i'm being discriminated against a mug shot. we've all seen the mug shot and you know who embraced it more than anybody else. the black population, it's incredible. you see black people walking around with my mum good both you and trump talk about sort of moving past race and politics. but how is that not pandering? >> well, first of all, they're not event a president talked for an hour. he was being globe having a little bit of foam with the crowd talking about what's happened because look, if you're being falsely accused of so much junk that is politically motivated, you would try to find some time to have from what that as well. but that being said, what the president is focused on is an agenda that's going to put the american people first. and that's why you have voters from all demographic groups are starting to look his way, especially black men, hispanic men, et cetera, because they have seen the joe biden policies. it's been a disaster that's why i call him the master of disaster. because

everything has gone wrong and they want a president who is going to be focused on america first, get the country on track. that's donald trump. >> what do you say to black and hispanic voters who not just are paying attention to the economic stuff, but also about character. donald trump's character, in particular when he was running his real estate empire, he was sued by the doj for racial discrimination. more recently when he was president of the united states he didn't want to denounce the white supremacists and racist in charlottesville when people look at that record what do you say to them when they say we can't trust donald trump? no we gotta be truthful. if you go back and watch the entire clip, it's a 17 minute clips still on youtube of the president talking about what happened in charlottesville. he denounced to all of the all of the white supremacy that was going on in charlottesville. i've reviewed that tape. i know you and your producers have reviewed that take multiple times. let's not mess not take one statement out of context. let's be factual

now, you gotta be for 17 minutes. he denounced it. that is the history. people go on youtube right now. don't listen to my words. go on youtube right now. she, congressman the point that the point that you're making about donald trump and the history that's be clear. okay. five i mean, there are a lot of examples, but we can also talk about joe biden's record, but i'm just wondering making a pitch. how the 94 crimes you back what you've done stating two black voters joe biden did that joe biden won is all kids to be so biden does that that was his record as well. so that's another spencer silver donald they'll per said, i long time ago, look at his record as president of the united states. i don't record as president was one, that embed, one is one that actually wanted all americans took driving succeed. he did not choose when he was president. do you think donald trump ought to address some of those things from his own past?

>> no, he doesn't need to do that. everybody knows donald trump's entire history. the man has been in the public eye for four decades, if not five decades now in the united states, what americans are looking for right now is his competency as commander in and that is why when people compare 45 versus 46, i mean, luck that the choice is clear. the 40 fifth president was significantly better than the 46. it's without without a doubt and that's obviously your opinion because your surrogate for him, i do want to get to a little bit of your own history. >> you have a really interesting story. when you were young man, you encountered the law and you when you were 18 years old, you were charged with a marijuana possession and tend to distribute charge, but you didn't go to jail for it a lot of people probably don't know that about you, but one of the interesting things that's come up is that you have this bill that you support, that addresses crime in dc and it actually restricts the district from creating laws that would

have leniency potentially in the sentencing for people who are younger, people who are 18 to 25 years old, you benefited from leniency, you benefited from a diversion program that kept you out of jail. why shouldn't that be available to other teams right now, it doesn't is a great question. first of all, when i was 18 years old, it was possession of marijuana. i had it make no excuses for it. it was wrong is wrong at any other time? i had to deal with it then and i moved on with my life, like every man and woman show when you mess up, you make up, but you never give up. i never gave up on myself and neither did my family, neither did my friends now, to the bill that you're talking about, what's going on in the district of columbia is that they treat all offenders from the ages of 25 and younger as minors no other states in the country does that no other jurisdiction does that. so all we did a nation's capital to say, you're gonna treat dc offenders are 18 and younger as minors like everybody ariel stars. that's what we did,

that's the appropriate application of the law because juvenile crime is up massively in dc and dc is not safe. i as a former dc resin, i lived there for many, many years. >> i understand what's going on in the district and the challenges that they're facing with crime. but you were also 18 years old. you were an adult? and you. benefited from a diversion program that allowed you to not actually serve time for your offense status. so i wonder i mean, why should that not be available if you're 1918 year-old or a 19-year-old and the district, why shouldn't it be possible? under certain circumstances, i'm not saying in blanket cases for those individuals to benefit from the same kind of leniency that you know, are we talking about having a dime bag in your pocket or i'm talking about if you're talking about question which is based on abby. abby he let's be consistent let me to clarify. >> so i just wanted to write what i'm asking, but i want to be consistent are we talking about somebody having a dime bag in their pocket or are we talking about carjacking because the crimes in dc that are being tried as juveniles

for people who are 22, 222324 is carjacking it is burglary, it is. >> i know. >> i understand. but your it's thinking no blanket that it does because interested in actually prosecuting crime and keeping people safe in dc they went through a series of bills that they wanted to do, which mariel bows or herself vetoed, and the council overrode her. >> it took congress to act to throw that out. my colleague from georgia, andrew clyde lead that lead that are for last year and basically had to shame joe biden into signing that law to repeal. but the dc city

council wanted wanted to do because they wanted to make it more progressive and not not make public safety number one, the bottom i'm trying to get out here and i'm trying to understand where you stand because you are unique position. you understand what it means to have a second chance? yes, i do. and you're supporting a bill that basically takes that off off the table in a blanket fashion for a lot of people. do you believe that there should be second chances for young offenders in certain circumstances? >> i'll be of course i do. so then why would you support a bill that we may not be in the dischargeable that's not what the bill does. the turn my life around and i made the most of it and i will tell it to anybody that's made a mistake, you have an opportunity to walk away from that mistake and do better going forward. and so my story is indicative of that but what we also have to do is make sure that our adults are tried as adults. i was like, oh, now be supplied to be when you were

and why wasn't anyone? >> i love color. i just want to note that when you were 21 you faced i did more charges again, also did not go to jail in florida as well, had been home. >> but let's be clear. i did serve two years of probation. i went through that process. i didn't have to go and i didn't have to go and have it adjudicate and i went through that process yes. i also under florida law, went and had it sealed. i went through that process and then when all that stuff was done, i did also go get a job, become a standing member up in my community, served in my church, coach kids, and basketball, and i think it's absolutely a family. i did all those things as well. i think it's it's positively and you cannot be lenient since there has to be laws on the books that whole people account. congressman, there's no question. there was leniency available to you. that is why you have such an extraordinary story.

>> there is leniency in a law in so many other places. but what does it? i don't say home, i don't see you cannot i was doing is not about leniency and it's not about second chances with dc is doing is this radical progressive view of criminal justice, which is making communities less safe. that's what i oppose. >> i want to ask you about another issue just recently, there was an issue of this search warrant for the search of former president trump's mar-a-lago property. and it authorized the use of deadly force for the fbi agents standard boilerplate language. but you and others have described it as an assassination attempt on the former president. that's just not true. why would you say something like that? >> well, first of all, my view of it is very simple. you have the fbi going in to do this radar mar-a-lago. this is not like any other rate that they would do. fbi agents who did that. ray did not want to do it. they didn't think it was necessary. and this is all politically motivated at the end because merrick garland, wanted to happen then in,

wanted to mature did come language. and some mar-a-lago with all due respect, the language for the search is standard operating procedure for every operation of that kind that the fbi does. they did the same thing when they searched joe biden's house? yes, but i would say is that when a sergio biden weaponizing, joe biden's house, there weren't all the networks from my recollection with helicopters flying over the beach house and rehoboth beach going to find the classified documents in his garage that he took when he was vice president and when he was a united states senator, which by the way is a violation of the escalators that i'm talking i can do that. i'm talking about politicized heresy theory. they didn't politicize that. i'm talking about the conspiracy theory that the fbi was trying to assassinate trump. well, let's talk to you, acknowledge that that is not true. let's talk about what's fact, what's, let's talk about what's really simple question, which fact is true or false? so the fbi was trying to assassinate trump. what's fact is that joe biden violated the espionage act. he did it with impunity. i just wanted to robert hur is not prosecuted but i just wanted

man winding to a very similar question. about a conspiracy theory that you why sphericity theory that the fbi, by having on a document that they are authorized to use deadly force, was trying to harm or assassinate former president trump. that is false. will you acknowledge that not going to be very clear with you? >> all right. i'm not sure what merrick garland is trying to do these days. so the answer is it is clear that the new harlan said that is being denies against donald trump. that is clear. that's pretty extraordinary the weaponized against donald trump. >> extraordinary. that's what's happening right mary, that when faced with really clear facts very clear facts, it's it's pretty much black and white. >> you won't acknowledge it. i'm trying to understand why we just is it because it's talking about himself has raised this conspiracy that you may like. you not even talked to the president about this. you asked me a question about the fbi rate. i'm telling you we are witnessing a weaponization of the department of justice against a political

rival because donald trump's head documents covered under the presidential records act, i'm not litigated. >> why documents and there's no prosecution because he's a senior that's that's not even equal of the charges. >> it's a simple question of whether the raid was carried out in a way that was standard operating procedure for the fbi. and as you i'm sure you know the republican party calls themselves a party of law and order the fbi as law enforcement officers, they go and they serve execute search warrants every day under the threat of violence. and they have to have that language every single time to protect themselves. in this case, though, the coordinated with the president's lawyers, they coordinated with the secret service. why would you insinuate that that was some attempt at former president trump's life. i'm not making any i mean, it's very simple. >> it's not the only thing i'm saying is, is that what we

have witnessed is an uneven application of the law by the department of justice. >> you had hillary clinton hoover hold on. hillary clinton violated the espionage charges. you're changing biden has no no because the dungeon purpose of the war is because of classified material is talking about. you have an application of the law. i'm talking to your sas system of justice, yet want to actually know how when you tell your supporters and the former president's supporters that there was a government attempt on the former president's life. and that is not true. that is a major insinuation and it deserves to be attached you have, you have to be walked back. i would argue right now, if you look at the actions of jack smith and merrick garland, there is an attempt to incarcerate donald trump over foolishness because they cannot win a political election and they have lost their minds collectively, they have decided that whether it's the documents case or this foolish january 6, this case which has no true merit or what's happening here with alvin

bragg, that they have chosen to use the justice system for political purposes and interfere in elections. and that's not a conspiracy theory asieh same, that's a real situation we should be talking about, talking about what about what's written in an fbi dollars man you talked about that, you tweeted about the document, you're the one changing the subject, but i do want to make one last note, shrunk as well, but we got to go. but even asked this before i'm going to ask you again just for the record if donald trump loses the election in 2024 will you accept the results of that election? >> my answer has been very clear on this. if the state yes or no question, states and localities actually follow rules and procedures. and everybody sees the rules followed. then of course you accept what's done, but what you can't have would you cannot have the sr judges and municipalities and districts not following law passed by state legislatures. that has led us to the problems we have in our elections. that's where you have frankly, you've have republicans and democrats object to elections. and so

your answer is conditional on based on my, my answer is always conditional because you want to see the processes of the election actually go according to law, not according to outside groups and legal cases that come up and you know, they do come up i mean, the legal cases or how they adjudicate whether they are done by law. so i mean, i think that that is definitely on the did you follow the law that's what the constitution says. >> congressman byron donalds, we appreciate your time. >> thank you very much for joining us. and up next for us just hours after nikki haley endorsed donald trump, a group of her supporters actually met with the biden team. i will speak with one of them ahead, plus a former january 6 insurrection objection. asked will join me live on what she thinks about the supreme court justice flying maga symbols outside of his homes and new video shows that the police is a count of scottie scheffler's arrest, doesn't quite add up. this isn't as nine assignments

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night's meeting. i just want to get your reaction to haley saying that she would vote for trump. i know that probably didn't come as a huge surprise to you. you called it even before she did it. but do you feel like she misled you and other supporters during her campaign? >> no i mean, in fact for those of us who attended a lot of her campaign rallies in new hampshire and south carolina, michigan super tuesday, she was consistently talking about her concerns about the country, about her strong concerns about about president biden and then she also mentioned some of the critiques you mentioned about about donald trump. but so for any of us following nikki haley and her trajectory, people loved her, they attended or rallies they she got applause lines when she criticized joe biden and so it's not surprising at all also said that trump would lose yeah. >> and she hasn't corrected

that. so i hope she's right so back to this meeting that you had with the biden campaign, it was actually scheduled before haley's announcement yesterday. >> what did the biden folks tell you? did they try to get your vote or your support yes so what the biden campaign did, which i thought they set the right tone, they were not seeking the vote on the first call. >> they said, we understand there are a lot of policy differences with haley voters. we acknowledge those, and we're going to work hard to earn your vote. and we're here to listen. this is just a first conversation. there's going to be many conversations with haley voters. and so i think they came from a place of genuine interest in actually talking to haley voters, which i think president biden said that haley voters have a place in his campaign. and haley voters weren't feeling that they were just kind of feeling that they had received a couple

of ads and stuff like that. but they they have had 4.4 million voters throughout the country and they see the kind of 600,000 uncommitted voters on the left and they see all this attention being given to those voters and they want the same ability to engage. >> i mean, does biden right now at this point and you run an pat called haley voters for biden. does biden have your vote right now yeah. >> so i typically i have voted left of center. now, i encouraged everybody across the political spectrum to vote for nikki haley because i thought that was the correct vote. she would have been a biden nikki haley race would have been by far a better thing for this country but when it became a choice between trump and biden, it was an easy choice for me personally but what it's going to be an easy choice for a lot of the left of center and centrist voters that voted for

nikki haley. what we're focused on with this working group is actually the center right? and longtime republican nikki haley, voters that are very skeptical of both trump and biden, they have a lot of policy differences with joe biden. and so it wasn't about me. it was about providing this group of haley voters that the biden campaign could directly here from and hear their concerns? yeah. all right. roberts schwarz. thank you very much. very interesting. >> thanks, abby and up next one of the january 6 rioters who spent time in prison. >> she'll join me live on what she thinks. justice samuel alito displaying symbols used by insurrectionists stick around russia is we're trying to spy on us we were spying on them. i was already friday this is a war, but secret war. secrets and spies, a nuclear

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they're operating. >> i could list out any number of public statements or positions that have been taken by other justices that i they were unwise it's in there in their possessions. >> i'm an adult who's live enough years to know that there's two sides to a story our next guest, pam khan pill, has served time for participating in the january 6 attack. >> and this is a video that she took herself. she has since blamed donald trump for motivating her and others to attack the capital. pam joins me. now, pam, first of all, what did you think of that flag flying outside of justice alito's beach house? >> well, it's to me there's historical symbol to it. but today you got to understand it's also a second meaning to it because they will have symbols to communicate. and what it is to me, it's aid and comfort to the enemies of our constitution they talk a lot

about civil war, but it's not a civil war that they're talking about this is an actual good to be a revolt. and another insurrection is what they're planning so that's flag. and when he put that out was for them, for an example, what i was taught when i was hanging out with the three percenters, they taught us that in case the phones go down, or something happens, we have to have symbols and a way to communicate the flag is one of them and he was communicating with these people that way using that flag. >> that's really interesting. i mean, you talked about the three percenters. they they you had a flag when you were at the capitol. i mean, what was that flag and what were you supposed to do with it? >> well, in case i was ever on the streets or hassled by the officers or anybody. they told me to just put it upside down or put it up for them if they saw me, they would stop but on a national level, its another

symbol. look what it's done. it's brought all the national news. you've helped them in a way, get his message out there he say an open okay. to michael flynn, don't call him general michael flynn because he's dishonored or country. but michael flynn and ivan lakeland have been gold around the nation on that tour with his movie and he's talking to everybody in every state there they're planning it there, open about it. >> this revolt it's open. you can go on twitter and they have a plan to arrest the representatives and tie you up and shoot you i mean, he's saying that outright. >> wow. you talked about how this flag is lea assemble a broader kind of almost like a bad symbol to the rest of the sympathizers for this insurrection. but when you hear republicans on capitol hill defending it being flown, either the american flag upside down or this other flag that was outside hi to the beach house. what do you make of

government officials defending this well, yeah, they're all into wanting more power now they're all in the same boat believing this christian nationalist that the doj has weaponized against the j sixers and drop it's all a lie. >> you know, this is something you would think i was reading a fiction book but everything they're sharing about the country and the doj and they're trying to destroy the country from within to make you believe that we've lost our doj and we've lost our system and it's not true. it's, they're doing a lot of projection. >> what? >> they're doing, their say a we're doing this deepstate. >> there's no deepstate. if there's a deep-state, its project 2025 and the people that are involved in that, they have the deep state. we don't have a deep-state. the different grads but yeah, they're trying to convince everybody with their propaganda and they're spitting

everything in lying about everything. but they have built it up so big that most people today, the mega is it expressively believed that the democrats want to destroy this country and they've got to stand up for god. i know all this sounds crazy it is it's an unfortunately, they have some real serious mental illness going on to believe that god would want them to you know, that, wow, pam, because you were a part of it off for some time, you served your time you got out and have had a change of view. it's very interesting to hear your perspective if there's always pam hemphill. thank you very much for your time thank you donald trump is vowing to get an american out of russian prison after he is elected. but why the weight? father of us marine trevor reed, who was freed after nearly three years behind bars is here to react to that one of

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american marine trevor read was detained in russia for nearly three years half of that time was during trump's presidency. trevor was released in a prisoner swap in april of 2022 through efforts by the biden administration his father, joe, we read joins me now. joey, thank you for being here i wonder what went through your mind when you hear that trump is essentially tying his own election when to the release of someone else who is wrongfully detained in russia hi, abby. many things run through my mind and our families minds when we hear these things. so because we have a little experience and we've done a little history about how our government negotiates with foreign countries that are holding americans wrongfully before i go on any further, i'd like did mention this, isn't just about evan gershkovich. this is about paul whelan, who has been in russia in prison wrongfully for 5.5 years. it's about marc vogel, david barnes because

cga, gabbana i'll sue my shiva staff sergeant gordon black travis leak, jimmy will gis and probably many others. and of all those names, only two of them are considered wrongfully detained by the state department so one of the first things that we think when we hear what president trump said today was, why is he making these statements? now, obviously, it's an election year this is similar to what president reagan did with the iranian hostages back when i joined the marine corps and we found out later that they had the his his staff had been working with other middle eastern countries to keep to keep those prisoners imprisoned in iran until the election and it's discouraging to have a leader of our country use americans that are suffering and their families suffering is a political campaign, speech.

the second thing is like humid chen is why, why if he has the ability and that friendship with putin and why doesn't he just use it now and use that for political purposes? >> yeah, i mean, it's it is the question of course. you have experience with trump and his attention to these issues. do you think that there's seriousness behind this kind of claim? i mean, as you noted, he doesn't mention any of the other americans detained in russia or elsewhere in the world. do you think that this is something? think that is top of the agenda for him i well, let me just say this. >> he during his administration, he said that bringing home americans was a top priority and he brought home several americans. he didn't bring any home that i know of from north korea, china, or russia but he did bring home several people that ends many of those cases. people didn't really hear about. i don't believe it's a priority for him or he would have wrought home my son and

paul whelan the detroit press had an insider article in 2022 that said that was an offer for paul whelan back during his administration and trump turned down that deal. we know that there was offers to trade. paul whelan and my son forever read four victor boot and possibly for yashin go. and that was turned down by the biden administration and possibly by the trump administration also and then of course later victor boot was traded in a sole trade for brittney griner. and at that point, the russians had decided not to trade for paul whelan because they understand our politics, which is what's driving most of these deals, is our internal politics. republicans against democrats and vice versa. and it's not so much about the international part of it. they're using us are infighting to make their moves with using americans as ponds. >> yeah, i think you hit the nail on the head there and you know, very well because you've

lived through this. unfortunately, when your son was detained there in russia, joey reed. thank you very much for joining us. i hope you, trevor and all rest. all the rest of your family? we're doing well tonight. >> abby. thank you, abby, when i can i say one other thing we we ask that the congress joined together like they did for our son encouraged to bring all of americans home and that we're glad that trump has said something about evan, even if it was for personal reasons because it's brought these hostages in detainees back into the media instead of just covering his trials, which those are the things that we went through when our son was detained. we couldn't get any media coverage and we need you to cover these stories so that the president will move on it. >> and we will we will thank you so much, joey. >> thank you. thank you new video of the moments golfer scottie scheffler got arrested in louisville. >> does the initial police report, though, line up with what is actually on the video? show, you next riyadh says new

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and police, while the original police reports claimed that the golfer, quote dragged the arresting officer to the ground with his car it's not clear in this video that that actually happened that arresting officer is also now in trouble for not recording the incident on his body camera scheffler faces a felony and lesser charges for allegedly ignoring police instructions in the wake of an earlier incident, scheffler says he didn't know about joining me now is seeing as a senior media reporter at axios sara fischer, sara, i didn't have on my bingo card that golf would be the place where we would be talking about weather police narratives as they are given, are actually true, but that's actually what's been happening here, is that people are like did this actually happen the way that it was purported to have gone down? >> yes. and the free scottie movement is going crazy online because it looks like these videos go against split the kotb had said, right? it doesn't look like scottie dragged him. he said his $80 pants were ruined. it does not

appear moving very slowly. >> it appeared microscopically slowly. i think this makes the whole internet come together around a fun story as opposed to all the chaos and the new cycle right now. >> and it also spun because scottie is a relatively boring figuring golf suddenly he might now be someone who actually gets ratings on tv, which would be i guess, good for the tv companies. >> but where do you think this goes next? i mean, what, what happens to this? do you think they probably will be reconsidering these charges? >> i think so. it looks scottie, his lawyers have said we feel so confident in the innocence of scottie that we're going to either fight this in court or see if this gets dropped. so if it goes to court, this story lives on, but it looks like it could possibly get dropped. the nice guy and golf getting a felony charge is pretty stunning. big mug shot of him versus tiger woods. this has been the most perfect viral internet story ever. abbe alright, sara fisher. thank you very much for all of that it

looks like we have a little bit more time. oh, yeah. always use some more time. >> so well, i mean, what he's now facing these charges you think it's probably gonna be dropped. what do you think is going to happen for him personally? i mean, it has this actually enhanced his brand as a golf player so much, you have the biggest figures on the internet who are suddenly selling free. scottie merch, who are trying to get scottie all interviews, trying to get them all over there pages this is catapulted him from being just like the nice guy and golf to being the most viral figure in sports right now, it's huge for his career. >> yeah, i mean, it would be huge for anyone except that that's not really a great image to have i mean, it's a crazy, it's a crazy photo, but i guess whatever you all press is good press. >> right? and it's not like he did anything catastrophically terrible that any kind of press could impact his career so negatively, he's golfing just fine. yeah. alright. sara fisher. thank you. may appreciate you. and thank you for watching these night. laura coates live starts right now.