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campaign is describing donald trump in a new campaign ad they're strategy is clear, but it's a message that doesn't seem to be translating in the polls, alaska top biden campaign aide, why they think this will work plus big promises in the big apple, donald trump hit the campaign trail in the bronx. one of the most diverse places in the country. his goal, making inroads with one black and latino voters who are crucial to joe biden's coalition. >> and more fallout from the dobbs decision, abortion drugs could soon be classified as dangerous controlled substances in louisiana, which means people with those pills who don't have a prescription could face prison time. >> i'm dana bash. let's go behind the head leinz and inside politics first the man known for taxi driver, good fellows casino, and many other classics has a new role. >> robert de niro is the

narrator of a new biden campaign ad attacking donald trump. but campaign says it's part of its summer strategy to remind voters of both what he did in the white house and what he would do if he wins it back from midnight tweets to drinking bleach, to tear gassing citizens and staging a photo-op. we knew trump was out of control when he was president. and then he lost the 2020 election and snap desperately trying to hold on to power. now he's running again, this time, threatening to be addicted taylor to terminate the constitution. if i don't get elected, it's gotta be a bloodbath. >> trump wants revenge until stop at nothing to get it the campaign says that ad will air nationally and in every battleground state over the next month cnn's priscilla alvarez is at the white house. priscilla trying to reinforce among voters what the donald

trump years looked like, trying to remind them of that you saw in that ad. >> the mention of the coronavirus pandemic by saying are trying to remind voters of what the president said about drinking and bleach as well as trying to capture that chaos and confusion under the republicans administration and also casting donald trump's presidential bid as revenge. so that captures where they're headed, but also in a memo, they laid out where they plan to ramp up their attacks especially before that june presidential debate. and that includes on abortion, on democracy, and also on the economy, arrogance. were they see weaknesses in what president biden's are republican, his republican rivals issues. now, of course, in this memo, jen o'malley, dillon said the following quote, the biden-harris campaign will zero in on trump's dangerous campaign promises and unhinged rhetoric. we will make sure that the voters who will decide this election are reminded of the chaos and harm trump caused as

president and why they booted him out four years ago. and dana, i want to point out what they say here about unhinged rhetoric. we've heard president biden start to see that more often in his fundraiser saying that former president donald trump's snapped after the 2020 presidential election, and that he's unhedged. so expect more, more buildup on that line over the course of the next few weeks, there's also two dates. the campaign plans to organize around. that is the overturning of roe v. wade, as well as the anniversary of the pulse nightclub shooting. of course, they're trying to hit on the issues of abortion and gun violence. all of this, of course, again, in the lead up to the june presidential debate, where they hope to bring that choice between the two, right to people's living rooms priscilla, thank you so much for that reporting. let's talk more about this with my table of fantastic reporters, seung min kim of the associated press, semaphores david, why goal and leanne caldwell of the the washington post, we made it to friday. we doubled well

said, and it's a holiday weekend. >> so that's nice. >> okay. so let's start talking about this. what biden is doing with the biden campaign is doing with the ad and the memo, setting out to talk much more about donald trump and the things that made him a in their word words, an unhinged and chaotic president and warning that that's going to happen in the future. and the obvious question is is that resonating well, right now, if you look at the polling not so much, because if you've looked at both national polling between donald trump and joe biden and particularly in those key battleground states, a lot of them show joe biden is struggling. >> so in terms of tactics that's why you're seeing this ramp-up so much these attacks on trump. i mean that de niro, of voiced ad was very, very aggressive going after trying to remind voters of what happened under the trump administration. and also kind of zeroing in on the areas where they feel that donald trump isn't fleet, which is in

the memo that jen o'malley dillon laid out. those are the parameters of what they want to talk about at the debate including abortion, democracy, and the economy that's also part of why they're pushing this debate further. we know that these debates are going to get watched. there's a quinnipiac pull that set about seven and ten voters are planning on watching the debate, which is a pretty pretty healthy figure, and they feel that you see those two men at and that brings that choice that the little choice between the two men much earlier on in the cycle than they would have otherwise. let's talk about the constituent wednesday's and the groups and the parts of the various coalitions, particularly the biden coalition that president biden and his team were trying to hold onto. >> and what the trump team is trying to steal away. one of the questions is about younger voters. and i would want to read a part of a piece from russell berman from the atlantic and that is that younger voters don't remember some of the things. a lot of the things that the biden campaign's specifically in

that ad are talking about the youngest voters know trump more as ribald commentator than as political leaders santiago meyer, the 22 year-old founder of the gen z group voters, for tomorrow, excuse me, voters up tomorrow, which has endorsed biden told me that his 18 year-old brother and his friends see trump as more funny then threatening. >> yes, that's a problem for younger voters. it's a problem across the electorate if you look at polling which seung was referring to gallup ed polling this week, that asked people number of questions, characteristics that trump and biden. one of them was, who is better at managing the government? biden had a lead on that last time, trump has a small lead on it. now, the biden number on that fell 13 points and that was at the heart of all of this. it's the premise of this ad is, you might like some things about don trump. you might think he's funny, but he can't mandate things. we're going to tumble into chaos and a lot of people don't believe that that's part of the nostalgia that the biden campaign is fighting especially with people under, under 3,000 25. what do you remember about about the trump years? trump has been

very successful in making it a three-year, two month presidency where things were cheaper. and that's about it. things were cheaper. there wasn't a warrant israel that's about it. so the craziness that they'll talk about with, with trump does not hit it could act because a lot of people have internalized, well, things seem pretty crazy. the tweets were pretty crazy but but but i feel i feel better in these five or six areas that are important to me and that really hits with, with younger voters, not even if they're not voting for trump. and i find them funny that they're going to sit it out with a vote for kennedy. they've worked for cornell west or whatever yeah i think that's absolutely right. you look at the polls and where biden is cratering is his base among black voters, hispanic voters, and young voters. and those are the ones who are also been disproportionately impacted by the economy. and that is one of the biggest challenges that biden is facing their resting their campaign and they have been for months as you both have mentioned, on trying to remind voters of what trump was, what life was like under trump, the chaos. but when it comes to the moment, that is the challenge that

biden is is dealing with. >> and one of the other aspects of the biden campaign strategy right now, which we've talked a lot about on this show, is trying to reach out to those haley primary voters and they did that in a pretty aggressive way yesterday by doing a call with some of those those haley backers and our colleague kit marc talked to some, including one, alyssa baker, who said don't keep telling us democracy is on the ballot, like we get it. we get that trump's a problem. like you don't have to tell us. so we wanted to move past that. and have a substantive discussion. >> so it's a little too late that biden is now reaching out to haley backers. i mean, after haley in said that she would vote for donald trump, this is something that people have been calling for since haley dropped out. we saw over and over again, even after she dropped

out, she got 17, 18, 19% of the vote and some of these republican primary, some of them are open, some of them were closed i interviewed chris christie a couple of weeks ago and i asked him, who is as we all know, very anti-trump, if the biden campaign or the president has reached out to him, he said no, and he was mystified by that. there are republicans anti-trump republicans who don't understand why the campaign is not trying to make inroads with some these people who could have influence over their supporters dad at that point the biden folks and after talking to win in this week after nikki haley's announcement, they were really never focused on getting nikki haley herself. they know that she probably wants a future in the republican party. she would kill that future had she come out and endorsed joe biden, they were really focused on getting her voters, which is why you're seeing all this quiet outreach starting now, they did do the president biden after nikki haley dropped out, made it clear that these voters have i have a room and my coalition, and you're starting

to see these conversations happen. and i was reading some of the comments from other people in who participated in the meeting and they said we want more of this. this is we just want to hear from the biden campaign. we want to make sure that we are heard. and especially i was just all its may and she's still getting double-digit support and a lot of these states in these primaries. and so there is a group out there that's ripe for the picking. and then one of the challenges that the biden campaign has is which i guess in fairness is a challenge for any candidate in either party because both of them have semi broad coalitions, is how do you reach out and appeal to and pull over a haley voter who might might just not like donald trump, but also might have more conservative ideals and not anger at the progresses in you're part even more than they are. >> well on paper, it's pretty easy because it's about democracy is about normalcy if you're a conservative, a lot of things are locked in and won't change it or biden if you're eight, if you're issue was ending row. all right.

it's done. >> the worst thing that happened to what you're saying about christie, if without which it doesn't work is maybe a media reported about how it didn't go very well, and that's already happening. the white house has been doing this with muslim bosom voters, air voters, and getting immediate readouts of how this is not very convincing that hasn't happened when it's talked to haley voters and the trump campaign has no problem doing this. they did the same thing with muslim voters, got some backlash. they do not mind having a meeting that doesn't necessarily go well, that's something i'll grow because they made a little bit of progress. >> we do have to get a break, but i don't i don't want to lose sight of what donald trump did yesterday, which is he had a rally in the bronx as i said, a very diverse part of the country and in it, he really coordinate openly courted african-americans, hispanic voters, saying that they're getting slaughtered. that millions of people are coming into the country great and having an impact on them and their jobs so what's also yes, he is trying to make inroads where he sees what we just talked about, where where biden is weak with his base black,

hispanic young voters you look at polling the state that president biden is doing the best and is wisconsin, which is one of the widest states of the battleground states and pulling the new york times poll from a couple of weeks ago suggest that democratic sources i have talked to say that biden is doing relatively well with white voters where he is really struggling are and it's showing up in the polls. >> what struggling is with a black and brown, but yeah, i should clarify when he said slaughter, he means economically yeah. >> yeah. yeah. which is which is the one that you were all making that people are just not feeling good. >> alright, coming up, biden's deputy campaign manager will be here live for more on the president's reelection strategy. >> stay with us tuesday evidence is the testimony has ended, but it's not over yet before the jury gets the final say. >> prosecutors and trump's defense team get the final

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drinking bleach, to tear gassing citizens and staging a photo-op. we knew trump was out of control when he was president then he lost the 2020 election and snap from once revenge until stop at nothing to get it so gotten since super tuesday, that was of course, when the general election matchup effectively began between biden and trump your campaign has more than doubled trump's campaign on ad spending 49 million, 222 million poll suggests none of it is moving the needle. >> what makes you think this is going to be different? >> look i think one we don't put any stock into poles. they're going to be poles that are up and down all, all across this election cycle. and so we're focused on doing the work and part of that is communicating to voters exactly how dangerous donald trump is to democracy and the threat that he poses. and this ad does the same thing, when donald trump was president, he told them americans to injecting bleach during one of the worst

pandemics of our lifetime. he has continued to double down on his extreme rhetoric and bracing political violence. and we're going to highlight that. and make sure that we're drawing a contrast between his vision of america and the vision that president biden and vice president harris have for america. and that's exactly what this added doing it. so we're not focused on these poles because there are poles out there that have us up there, pulls out there that have us down. but what donald trump does not have that our campaign does, is an infrastructure and that's what we're spending every day and have been spending every day since last year when the president announced an april building an infrastructure that's going to be able to communicate with voters and that's what we're doing in this adds napped is exactly that so i understand what you're saying about the poles and i hear you, but it is important to look at some of the specifics, like cnn last month showed that 55% of americans say the trump presidency was a success compared to the survey taken days after january 6, it was the opposite.

>> we're showing that on our screen you don't have to believe in every single poll but obviously your strategy of calling him unhinged and snapped and everything seems to suggest that you two are worried about the way that a lot of democrats described to me people, especially young voters, voters of color looking at the trump presidency through rose colored glasses i don't think that it is a defensive posture that we're campaigning against donald trump and highlighting how extreme he is and what his presidents he looked like in its first term and so again, these polls that are out when people want to talk about these poles, the best indicator or polls is how people are actually voted and when we see that there are polls that had democrats down in 2022, i was running the largest senate campaign in 2022 and polls head is down national polls saying that we were going to lose and then we want, there

was no red wave and so again, we have to do the work to communicate with voters. >> there's nothing defensive about it, and we are going to continue to highlight exactly how extra during donald trump is. >> take, take the poles out of it when it comes to your approach why is this the right approach right now at this time, what about the message about donald trump as a person, as a leader, how you characterize him. do you think matters so much? to the voters that you're trying to persuade i think that voters are concerned about their economics. >> i think voters are concerned about their health care. i think voters are concerned about child care, about housing and rent and mortgage affordability. and donald trump is only in this campaign because he wants revenge and retribution. and so when donald trump trump is out on the trail again, promising that he is going to give tax breaks to the wealthy and corporations when donald trump is saying that he wants to gut social security and medicare when donald trump is saying that he wants to terminate the aca in order for us to make sure that people

believe us when we're telling them he is serious about these things. this is not a joke. i know it sounds a morphous and pie in the sky to save that democracy is at stake, but it really is. and these points of donald trump's first presidency, of how he governed in the things that he did staging a photo-op, tear gassing american citizens and then taking a photo as the president of the united states standing by while there was an insurrection happening and doing absolutely nothing in the white house are proof points of why voters should believe donald trump when he's saying that he's going to do all the things that are campaign is highlighting. he is not playing around and we are running out of time to make sure that we communicate that to voters. and that's exactly what we're going to spend every single day from now until election day doing and drawn the contrast. and there's also the element of continuing to highlight how president biden and vice president harris have gotten into the oval office and kept the promises that they made to americans, leading them through a deadly pandemic, getting shots in arms saving lives.

another thing that donald trump failed to do and ultimately impacted disproportionately. a lot of voters of color, and he simply did not care. and so that is why americans should believe us when we're telling them how dangerous of a threat donald trump poses to democracy. >> i want to ask you, since you are the deputy campaign manager about one of the important tactics that you guys are focused on right now, which is trying to l4 nikki haley, supporters over to vote for joe biden. i know that members of your team met with nikki haley voters on wednesday night, just hours after she said she would be voting for trump this year. >> how do you think you can win those moderate republicans without losing the progressives, many of whom are already frustrated with the president look, i think that one look, nikki haley ran a campaign for months talking about the threat that donald

trump poses to democracy. and our calculus is that we believe we deeply believe that her support are still believed that which is why they are continuing to vote against donald trump and his republican primary. then months after she has dropped out, and we're going to continue to communicate that the beauty of this is that we still believe that those voters care about democracy and that's part of the advertising and then messages that you're saying part of what we're talking about and snap, they care deeply about the fact that donald trump stood behind an insurrection. they care deeply the donald trump is saying that he's going to terminate the constitution. they care deeply that donald trump is talking about dismantling government institutions, talking about abandoning our outline doesn't those nikki haley voters support? yeah, that's interesting. sorry, we're almost at a time, but you're making clear that this ad is in part specifically going for those nikki haley voters i'm saying that this ad also accomplish what we need to with our base and also to those nikki haley voters, because i think they care about

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louisiana already has one of the strictest abortion laws in the country. >> a total ban with no exceptions for rape or incest. but now it could be even harder for anyone there to get access to the two drugs are commonly used in medication, abortions misoprostol and mifepristone state lawmakers sent a new bill to the republican governor there, jeff landry. they sent that yesterday and it could upend abortion care in that state. cnn's diane gallagher has been covering this diane, what exactly does this? new bill do? and do we expect the governor to sign it so we do expect him to sign this into law. >> dana and though office has not responded to cnn's outreach governor landry is responding to vice president kamala harris on x and her criticism saying just about an hour ago that he is proud to stand with the legislature on this bill. now, louisiana is poised to become the first state in the nation

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set to speak at the libertarian party's national convention, buying for the support of any persuadable voters they can find in the crowd. cnn's even mechan joins us here at the table. eva, you're covering that convention. what do we expect? >> well, kennedy essentially believes that he can compete with some of the same pool of voters that trump qin, something that strikes me about the libertarian convention. the theme is become ungovernable. well, that is right up kennedy's ali, his whole theme is really questioning our institutions. he often says he doesn't trust the agencies and neither should anyone in the american public. and so he believes that he can slowly persuade some of these voters to his campus, especially because at this point, no one in the libertarian party has emerged as the prominent candidate. they will libertarians elect someone over the weekend, but their name is not going to be as prominent as kennedy. >> and the fact that trump kennedy two obviously very

prominent names are going to this convention is that perry unusual? >> it is. kennedy started this. he went to the california libertarian convention in february and he got a friendly reception. there are people who came to mention justice see him, but they took a straw poll. he got a single vote in the room of delegates. so there was some talk about him maybe running for this nomination and solving all his ballot problems with once he's not gonna do that they're both willing to go into crabs. there might be booze, which is a lot of candidates want to avoid. there might be people who heckled them that happened in california is not going to do that because as they don't want them they kennedy and trump just done things that are heretical to the kind of person who becomes a libertarian delegate, especially the current party, has moved to the right in a number, a number of ways. the muses caucus, which runs it now, and they're open about this and that they wanted to be an open forum. the chair of the party of the engine mccardle said, they're not how can i do very well as here, she said this to california, to kennedy is going to get a lot of votes that otherwise would to go to libertarian. so this is a building year. they want to make the party relevant. they want to be in the

conversation, but they know that all of the anti-government energy is up for grabs as you were saying, yeah, to that point on housing, on climate, there are a number of progressive policies costly progressive policies stick kennedy champions that would not be in line with more conservative libertarian voters. >> so to the extent that he rails against the agency's, he also has a platform that uplifts some pretty costly spending on some issues. and i just want to read a quote from back in 2018 from the executive director west benedict. executive director in 2018 of the libertarian party, trump is the opposite of a libertarian. we also should have expected that trump would easily be capable of running $1,000,000,000,000 deficits after all, he does have vast personal experience with bankruptcy yeah. >> and when he was in office, he spent a lot of money and like you just said, ran up the debt and deficit. but donald trump is there because he is also trying to compete with kennedy for his voters both

donald trump and president biden are taking rfk junior very seriously. now. that he is doing well in the polling considering in the double-digits and most polling he is pulling from both trump's supporters and biden supporters. and he's a threat to both of them. >> he's a threat, but he is only on the ballot, right now in michigan, utah, hawaii, delaware california and oklahoma, he's gathered signatures for many more, but it hasn't been have been approved the libertarian party is on the ballot in most battleground states, except virginia, pennsylvania, and new hampshire, which is, which of the earlier point it does begs the question why kennedy didn't try harder to get on the libertarian party ballot. it's nomination, because he does have a lot of things going for him. you have broad displeasure among the electorate with both trump

invited who are looking for a potential third party alternative, you have the kennedy name, you have reason sources, but it's getting on that balance. that's the challenge you name the states where he himself has gotten on, not really sweet stays now really states where they will really not michigan michigan, where it can really swing so that is, so that's the biggest challenge for rfk right now until lean's point, you do really see both donald trump and joe biden's campaign push hard against rfk. i think it's still pretty unclear who he really hurts. perhaps it's both. so that's why you see the dnc. >> relax leslie attack him on for say, abortion, and then you have donald trump, just that we saw on tv earlier saying he is far right. so it's really interesting to see both those twin dynamics going on for both sides against rfk. yeah, it's just fascinating to see and we do have to wrap up the conversation to see as you reported at the libertarian party, as saying it's the first time that they're having people from other parties come and speak at their conventions,

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