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>> one day, we'll be able to upload our consciousness so that long after you and i are gone, our brains and our thoughts or memories will live on in a machine and they'll be able to tie that to a 3d hologram of you so that you'll be able to have a conversation with your grandkids, your great grandkids you're really you and it's really me in 2017 in the midst of the metoo movement spurlock out at his own when behavior admitting to his personal sexual misconduct and a social media post writing, quote i've come to understand that after months of these revelations that i am not some innocent bystander, i am also part of the problem. he stepped down as chief executive of his production company, but remained a prolific writer and director morgan spurlock was 53 years old and morgan spurlock passed away in new york, surrounded by his friends and family according to a statement from his brother craig, who went on to say that morgan gave
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so much through his art, ideas and generosity. the world has lost a true creative genius and a special man. boras it's definitely luck. >> thank you so much and thank you so much for joining us tonight. ac30 60 starts right now tonight on three, 60 breaking news on the criminal hush money trial, new details about the jury instructions coming just days before prosecutors and defense attorneys deliver their summations and a jury decision could come as early as next week, also tonight, it is not just flags justice samuel alito's history of speaking his mind about both cultural and political issues plus a young american couple risk their lives to help those suffering in haiti. >> to us missionaries killed in a gang attack their story. tonight good evening to you. >> i'm jim sciutto in for anderson this long warm memorial day weekend, breaking
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news now about the former president's hush money trial. days ahead of tuesday's make or break summations. a source tells cnn that judge juan merchan has issued the final jury instructions to prosecutors and defense attorneys. this happen on thursday these instructions are a critical roadmap for the jury wants deliberations begin. we will likely know more about them after the closing arguments on tuesday. those summations will attempt to weave compelling but competitive narratives after more than six weeks of documents, texts, an emails, plus exhausting, sometimes contentious, and occasionally sorted testimony about allegations of an affair, a payoff, and a cover up. trump's former attorney, michael cohen was the key witness for the prosecution. >> he gave testimony that went to the heart of the 34 felony counts of falsifying business records. >> but the defense also sought to undermine his credibility,
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even getting him to admit that he stole from the trump organization and raising questions about a conversation cohen said he had with his former boss about the scheme ultimately, it will be the burden of the prosecution to prove and beyond a reasonable doubt with a claimed in their opening statements, quote, it was election fraud, pure and simple also, because of the current political timeline for the former president, we may hear the final decision of the jury about his face fate weeks, perhaps days before the first presidential debate here on cnn, that happens exactly one month from monday on june 27th, on wednesday, anderson spoke with former fbi director james comey about the case. comey believes the jury may convict where do you think this is headed? >> i think it's highly likely to result in a conviction. you do. oh, yeah. >> some a small possibility i
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think of a hung jury. i think there's almost no possibility of acquittal. yeah. i think they built a case that was not subject to cross-examination, really, it's based on documents and texts and emails in the world herds of the defendant. and then they presented their most controversial witness, the cooperating bag man i'm joined now by former federal prosecutors, at least adamson and ten media on ganga, former manhattan chief assistant ta karen friedman, agnifilo. >> she has recently joined a law firm now representing michael cohen. however, she does have nothing to do with the case and knows nothing beyond what is already public. also, with us former new york state supreme court justice jill can visor, a longtime friend, it happens of the trial judge juan merchan, judge, if i can begin with you, there's been a lot of talk about the jury instructions and how central they are to how the jury will decide this case. because the judge has some influence on defining for them the terms in effect and giving them a roadmap for deciding
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guilt or innocence. why tell us why they are so central well, jury instructions are a road, are definitely a roadmap. >> of course, juror is pay very careful attention when a judge thanks and happily so they do want to get their information from the judge, lily paying careful attention. essentially, i would say probably 80 or 90% of the charge will be boilerplate. in other words, it's what you're going to hear in every other case. the presumption of innocence, the burden of the burden of proof, proof beyond a reasonable doubt, credit ability, and so on and so forth. in this case there's going to be maybe a little bit longer. there are a lot of counts that they have to go through and there's gonna be some some wrangling over if it hasn't been already about what the actual language will be. >> okay. so karen, to that point what do you believe the gist of the jury instructions will be because the wrangling has been over as i understand it as a layman about describing what's necessary to convict on the felony portion of this charge. they didn't affect
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trump knew what this was about and he did so with intent to de affect break federal election law can you explain how the judge can kind of lay that out for the jury as they make this decision yeah. >> so in new york, falsifying business records can be either a misdemeanor or felony. >> you have to intentionally cook the books if you will. >> right? it's not a mistake. you didn't make a mistake. >> and if you just do that, that's a misdemeanor. >> what bumps it up to a felony is if you you also had the intention to either do so to cook the books in a way that committed another crime or conceal another crime. and that's the theory that the prosecution is using in this case. they're saying yeah, they falsified the business records by calling it a legal expense when it was a reimbursement for my payment. and they structured the payment over time and they tripled essentially triple the reimbursement amount so that it
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made it look like it was income instead of a repayment of hush money. so that's what they're going to charge the jury on. and one of the questions that the judge resolved on the jury charge was the jury doesn't even have to unanimously agree on which crime they think the defendant intended on committing. it could be state election fraud, it could be federal election fraud, it could be tax fraud. >> the timing is interesting here, because the judge in effect gave the jury a break and said, i'm not going to we're not going to give closing arguments before the holiday weekend. you're not going to start deliberating before the holiday weekend. but they've heard a lot of testimony. they've they've seen a lot of evidence. their minds are going to be going over the weekend. how does that affect their thinking? and how might that affect the deliberations once they do begin? >> well, i don't think it affected that much. i mean, they've had a long trial. they've been at this for what, four or five weeks now.
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>> and it's entire time. they haven't been allowed talk to anyone about it. and that includes each other so this whole process, they really been in their own heads and thinking about the evidence. so to the extent it has any impact, i think the last view they had, the case was the failed attempt of the trump defense to put up some witnesses to have any real impact. i mean, they've put up michael cohen's former lawyer and he really got destroyed and cross-examination. so to the extent that there's are remnants of memory there, it's going to be that, but i think overall, they really are thinking about the broad entire case that they've been looking at for so many weeks. and i think when again, in the neck next week that's the first time they get to speak about it and they're gonna be bursting really unpack the evidence and good then dive into it. so i wouldn't put too much weight on that. it's when they come in to get that jury charge, they send their room and they get to finally exhale and talk about this. that's what it's gonna get interesting. >> at least they're going to be two people in that room who are lawyers themselves. and i imagined beyond the evidence, they've heard they went to law
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school hey day, they have a lot of experience in the field and i've i've heard a lot of lawyers on the year talk about that being a potential problem. in particular for the prosecution because the lawyers will perhaps they have a higher standard in their mind as to what's necessary to prove. and therefore to convict the former president. do you agree with that? do you agree that the two lawyers are the biggest obstacle or biggest challenge for the prosecutors i don't think that they're the biggest obstacles, but i can tell you what i was trying cases. >> i did not want lawyers on my jury l of the jurors are going to be following the law and the burden is the same. it's beyond a reasonable doubt. i think the problem is when you have attorneys, they're going to want to look at everything attorneys, we meet, we hang on every word and i actually see the two of them being the reason that deliberations may
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possibly be drawn out here because please believe they're going to want to examine all the evidence. they're gonna be going over all of the jury charges, trying to explain that to the other jurors. again, i have a lawyer. i'm a little long-winded. i like to explain and legally nerd out frequently so i don't think they are the greatest obstacle to the process. houston, but i don't think they're necessarily helpful lawyers and television correspondents, right? like til near it out and maybe talk about it, judge, can visor if the jury listened there there there are a bunch of possibilities as to where they go there. they convict, they could they could equip it. but if they cannot agree on a verdict what then well, it doesn't happen that quickly. so if the jury fairly soon goes back and they send a note to the judge that says, we can't reach a verdict. my first reaction would be you have not yet begun to fight back and do your whole back. and dion, like and i might do that a couple of times and if it seems that they
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given working hard, are trying and asking questions and asking for read bag and they still can't do it. i would give what's called an allen charge, which is to say there's no jury better than you. i have faith in you. it's not easy. this wasn't meant to be easy. i'm glad you're taking the time if you don't reach a verdict we've got to start all over. that doesn't mean anyone else's in a bit at a position than you. i have faith in you keep going. you'll get there. >> someone died if there is a guilty verdict of course, this last longer as well. right? because it's not like they're going to be sentenced and carry the former president and offer in cuffs at that moment, it'll be months, would it not be until a sentencing? during yeah, it's not going to be immediate sentencing, but i think it does change the game for the former president. >> i mean, it's one thing to be charged with felonies, so nothing should be walking around as a convicted felon. and to the extent that he is he's trying to win the presidency, but he's also going to be thinking about one day judge merchan is going to be deciding, does he go to prison? so as he for this last few
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months been undercutting the gag order not to bring the judge attacking witnesses. if that kind of desorb disobeying of the law continue after he is convicted. those are the kind of things just my china is going to be thinking about four possible sentencing here. he's gonna be thinking about does this defendant need to go into prison? to learn his lesson? here are these someone who's now learned to respect the law? so i think that is what i would be concerned about if i were the former president that his behavior suggests that a judge will find the prison time here is really necessary, and that's something less. >> so that's notable. and karen, i wonder if you agree because i've also heard the argument that given that trump has it'd be a first-time, right? first time, a felon here and not exactly a flight risk if a given his public profile, do you find again, this were several steps away from this, right? we've got to get through arguments and jury deliberations, but would you say that prison time is at least potentially on the table?
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>> i mean, let's just level set for a second. if any other defendant was convicted of 34 counts are some number of class e felony with three open indictments, federal and state in three separate jurisdictions, and i as the judge had to hold them in contempt, ten times, for violating intentionally and willfully violating my gag order, ten times. >> during the course of the trial, there is no way any other defendant would not get prison time in this case however, it's donald trump and it's very different he is treated differently than everybody else, just not in the way he claims. >> so so i think for him it is it is particularly tricky because he has guarded by the secret service. and obviously judge merchan, i can't do anything until in terms of sentencing to prison, if he's going to be president of the united states there are so many different things in play here
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kevin lip ttac at the white house. >> and this is cnn there is mounting pressure for justice. samuel alito to recuse himself from the cases related to january 6. and former president trump. but still no comment from justice alito about the second of two controversial flags seen flying above a property. his family owned, according to the york times, this flag was flown last summer. at his new jersey beach property, is known as the appeal to heaven flag. its history dates back to the revolutionary war, but more recently, it's become a symbol for supporters of the former president. the times also reported an upside down
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american flag was seen at the alito home after the january 6, hi, it's alito said it was raised by his wife in response to a clash with their neighbors, both are associated. we should note with the stop the steal movement, which believes falsely that president biden did not win the 2020 election these, episodes come after a long history of justice. alito publicly sharing his views, the details from randy k it was one of washington's long longtime unwritten rules supreme court justices attended the state of the union address, but they don't react to anything the president sense that that's why it was stunning in 2010 when justice samuel alito was caught on camera shaking his head, appearing to say not true when president barack obama criticized the court's landmark citizens united campaign finance decision for special interests including foreign corporations, to spend without
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limit in the year since the conservative justice has been candid about his republican aligned views on same-sex marriage. >> you can't say that marriage is a union between one man and one woman. until very recently, that's what the vast majority of americans thought now it's considered bigotry on gun control, the ultimate second tier constitutional right in the minds of some is the second amendment right to keep and bear arms on what he says are threats to free speech. >> it would be easy to put together a new list called things you can't say if you're a student or professor at a college or university or an employee of many big corporations. >> the now 74 year-old alito was nominated by president george w bush in late 2005, after white house counsel, harriet myers withdrew her nomination to the high court as critics question ginger qualifications alito emerged as the court's most pointed conservative voice after the 2016 death of justice antonin scalia. and he became a full
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fledged hero to the conservative right with his 2022 opinion that struck down guaranteed abortion access nationwide roe was egregiously wrong from the start, alito wrote for the court's majority. its reasoning was exceptionally week and the decision has had damaging consequences. alito's critics say the january 6 connected flags that flew over two of the justices properties should disqualify him from voting on the related cases before the supreme court. those include an immunity case, which could clear trump of any criminal liability related to the attack on the capitol. but alito may have already tipped his hand on trump's immunity claim. >> if a an incumbent who loses a very close, hotly contested election knows that a real possibility after leaving office is not that the president is going to be able to go off into a peaceful retirement but that the
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president may be criminally processing acute. it by a bitter political opponent will that not lead us into a cycle that destabilizes? functioning of our country is a democracy randy k cnn perspective now from a former us district court judge, shira scheindlin. >> so good to have you. >> thank you. >> you have these two flag controversies. you have a history of public comments on cultural and political issues there. do you believe he should recuse himself? and is this more broadly and ethics problem for him? >> i do believe he should recuse himself and i doubt he will body should because i think his comments show that he can't be a fair and impartial judge and even if he says he could, the real issue is the appearance of lack of impartiality and that there's law that says that that's supreme court law says if a
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reasonable person on the street would question whether this judge could be impartial. that's a reason to recuse. now, there is a federal statute that governs recusal. it it's a statutes on the books. it's been passed by congress it's called 28 usc 455, and it says, at adjust this. a judge, any federal judge, including adjust this shell recuse. if they're impartiality can be reasonably questioned in that matter. well, i would think that these facts show that his impartiality, it can be reasonably question that statute applies to supreme court it's a governing statue. the problem is that who's going to enforce it? i mean, if somebody going to actually say you violated the law and bring a criminal case or even a civil case against him? no, nobody is going to do that. but we have our senators today in our congressmen calling on him and saying, you need to recuse because what you've done would at least give a person on the
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street pause that you can really be an impartial judge in these cases. >> should the chief justice john roberts be acting here then no, i think the only thing he can do is behind the scenes. >> i don't think he would have any power to force a colleague to recuse. but i believe that when the information was coming out about justice thomas, i'd like to believe that justice roberts called them in as a way to have a little chat. clarence. this can't go on, but i think he did that. >> but the trouble is with thomas and alito so here have they not essentially been given a free pass because one could argue that, and many have the thomas should recuse himself as well, given ginni, thomas is quite public involvement in the stop the steal for 100%. >> thomas has been completely compromised by his wife's activity. some of his own in statements, some of his own conduct, but certainly because of his wife's activity, there's just no doubt in my mind that he should recuse and
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all of the other information that's come out about him causes the people of this country to disrespect the court. and that's what worries me as a longtime federal judge, i'd like to to see our courts respected and for the people to believe they have integrity and the conduct we've seen from these two longtime justices. these are the senior justices and their conduct is to me, reprehensible the thing is, we all pay an effect here is because we suffer the consequences of loss of confidence in the court as does the court itself. i think it's never been lower. there there are statistical studies that show more americans think less of the court than ever before. and you can understand why. >> well, judge shannon, you know, a thing or two, having been a judge yourself, thanks so much for joining us today. >> thank you for having me coming up a memorial day weekend showdown between the former president and independent candidate, robert f. kennedy jr. both presidential hopefuls are speaking at this week's libertarian party convention,
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dallas in a whole. >> now used to climate out of it due to the western conference final presented by guy go governors begins tomorrow when seven on tnt it is one of the great unknowns of the presidential campaign. what effect will independent candidate robert f. kennedy jr. have? on the november election? the number of state ballots kennedy will appear on still remains unclear. at his famous family is largely supporting president biden among other things, kennedy's critics point to his habit of spreading baseless conspiracy theories about vaccines including a debunked link to autism several of his own siblings have condemned his third-party candidacy as quote dangerous to our country. yet a new poll finds that kennedy is garnering a sizable amount of support according to market law schools national survey of registered voters 40% said they would vote for trump, 37% for biden which falls within the margin of error, indicating no clear leader among them, but 17% of
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voters say they would vote for kennedy. and that is up three point sense, march. this comes as both trump and kennedy are spending part of this memorial day weekend at the libertarian party convention trying to court some of that party's voters. kennedy delivered remarks earlier today, tomorrow evening, the former president will take the stage sudan's even mechan is at the convention. so what case did rfk jr. make today? >> once well, jim, it's going to be a little bit loud in here because former republican presidential candidate vivek ramaswamy is onstage and he's got the folks in this crowd riled up, but earlier this evening, rfk junior gave a speech that was really catered to this audience, here, he talked about being a defender of civil liberties, protecting individual freedoms is a cornerstone of his campaign. >> he lamented what he characterized as being silenced and censored during the
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pandemic. >> and he actually reserved his most pointed criticism for former president donald trump on the pandemic response. let's listen it closed down 3.3 million businesses with no due process, no, just compensation in violation of the fifth amendment with a lockdowns mask mandates the travel restrictions. >> president trump presided over the greatest restriction on individual liberties. this country has ever known in the next administration in the united states you know, jim, something else that stuck out to me that kennedy said was when we talked about guns, he told his crowd that he will protect their gun-rights and that is really a departure from where he previously was on this issue. >> the kennedy democrat. he once supported an assault weapons ban. you don't no more jim. and listen. of course to
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the kennedy family has suffered greatly from gun violence. of course through the years so i wonder how his message rfk juniors message has been received by folks there at the convention you know some people were sort of puzzled by this decision that the libertarian party made and so that ultimately why would you bring the rivals here, kennedy and trump, who will take away from their nominee, that they will ultimately support over the weekend. but others were very supportive. they were excited to see him here to people that i spoke to that told me they would vote for him. they actually voted for hillary clinton in 2016 and biden in 2020. so that gives you a sense of the ideological diversity on jim among his support. >> spend a lot of debate as to who he is more likely to draw support from trump or biden, even mechan, thanks so much so amid the never ending speculation about whom donald trump will choose as his running mate, there is news
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that a somewhat unexpected strong contender has now emerged. that according to the new york times, which reports it's an arkansas republican senator tom cotton, a staunchly conservative harvard educated army veteran of both the iraq and afghanistan wars, is now at, or even near the top of the list. we caution of course, at the former president is notoriously unpredictable and the gop convention is not until mid july. still news of 47 year-old cottons, prominent spot in the so-called vip stakes provides a sense of which qualities trump is now prioritizing, at least for now, joining me, joining me now is the reporter who broke this story, new york times political correspondent michael bender so michael, i mean the thing about senator cotton, while certainly not out of the blue, i mean, quite a prominent in public republican voice, but he's hawkish. he's socially conservative. he's a white male from arkansas, which are not demographics that the former president needs help
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with. so why? a is cotton such a strong contender yeah, i think it's a surprising showing for him landing on i a narrow list here for trump, i think what the shows and what the rest of sort of trump's top tier shows us is, is at the moment. >> trump seems to be valuing what i'm calling the do no harm candidates the folks he can bring experienced politicians who've held office, who, who, who he thinks performed well or effective on tv it driving a message and remember this is a candidate who is facing some pretty serious legal troubles right now. and the last thing he needs is additional distractions unwanted chaos, and questions about a running mate and i think what you see from the folks were reporting is sort of this top tier or people he thinks right now sort
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of fit that bill. >> now that works in the pers personal space. i imagine but if you're talking about not causing trouble, i mean, it would strike me given trump needs even talked about how he need suburban women voters and abortion rights certainly a central issue and we've seen that in a lot of polling, but also in a lot of recent elections and so on. i mean, it's certainly not good. it's certainly going to create some controversy in the issue space yeah. >> yeah. no, i think i think that's absolutely right. i mean not just the issue space with voters, but also trump, right? i mean, you mentioned just sort of hawkish views on foreign policy. how's it going to square that? they're gonna have to figure out how to address that for the public. if that was the case, it's several of these folks have that issue as well. well, i i think for trump, it sort of depends on what he values here. as it is part of the curve is metrics. i'm making this decision. i do think part of trump's calculation is he doesn't see
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i don't think he values the way we traditionally think about political value for running mates i'd, like from battleground states or particular issue set as all that meaningful. and even though you did it in 2016, pets helped him reassure evangelical voters, but he may need some help reassuring the traditional republicans, either both of these pet presidential candidates heading into november they need every bit of their own party in their own bases. they can get time temp table on when he makes it announces this choice it's, a great question. he's kinda been vacillating on this a little bit but but look at the republican convention in wisconsin and what mid-july right before the convention in 2016 is when he announced mike pence. he's talked about doing that, repeating that again, but he's also said in a couple of interviews that he might announced it at the convention, which would be a pretty wild
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story certainly. and pretty dramatic logistics for the party and the convention planners to try to figure out. but if he decides who he wants i mean, we've seen this before, trump like he could, he could very, very capable of moving very quickly and just blurting it out at some point in june, if we want, but it but right now, i'm sketching out a series of stories when anticipating mid july. sure. and listened to his attention to spectacle is what we have a lot of experience with the idea of doing a convention i suppose shouldn't write that off. michael bender, new york times. thanks so much. >> thanks, jim. >> not to a young american couple of missionaries in haiti. the latest victims and the country's ongoing gang violence there. the couple, the daughter and son-in-law, vm missouri state lawmaker were ambush while leaving church later killed a third person from the organization, also killed in the attacks dividends david culver reports an
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outpouring of grief for two young missionaries brutally killed and haiti's capital, they went to heaven together because every state representative, ben baker, posted his daughter, natalie, and her husband, davy lloyd, attacked by gangs thursday night in port-au-prince the couple and their early 20s served as part of missions in haiti a christian non-profit organization run for more than two decades by lloyd's parents. >> the organization posting friday, they were ambushed by a gang of three trucks full of guys, davy was taken to the house, tied up and beat the gang, then took our trucks and loaded everything up they wanted and left at some point as the attacks unfolded, davy lloyd called his father. he was injured, he was hurt and he was very nervous and very scared because esteem why they tied him up and he's like what because you're the only one that's got strength that we have to worry about. and so they wanted to make sure he couldn't put up a fight back and then he was begging me to find somebody to get in there to help him. and i did all i
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can, but couldn't you locate anybody three hours later, the group posted that the couple was shot and killed by the gang missions in haiti says a third person, a haitian staffer named jude, was also killed so in the attack, were told he'd been with the organization for 20 years. the violent incident started as the missionaries were leaving church and lasted for several hours davy lloyd's father says the three died barricaded and the lloyd families living quarters on the missions compound. haiti has been spiraling into gang fueled chaos, which forced the resignation of prime minister ariel henry in april. the un estimates some 80% of the capital city is under gang control in recent months, cnn's made multiple trips to port-au-prince we've met victims of the gangs brutality including rape, kidnapping, and murder. hundreds of thousands. now refugees in their own cities as gangs have torched their homes and forced them to flee. we've also met with the leader of one prominent gang. he and others demanding a say
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in haiti's future, a future that may again be shaped by foreign forces president biden hosted kenya's president william ruto for a state dinner in washington thursday. around the same time that the deadly attack on davy and natalie lloyd was taking place on top of the two liters agenda haiti we are going to take up that responsibility alongside the haitian police. can you plan to lead a un backed multinational support mission to haiti with at least 1,000 kenyan police officers sent to deploy. president biden i didn't stating thursday, the us will not send troops, but is providing equipment and intel. the white house reacting to the killings at a statement on friday, our hearts go out to the families of those killed as they experienced unimaginable grief missions in haiti, among many others, has been warning haiti is on the brink of collapse. the group posting last month, it seems the world has turned their backs on haiti. and it's going to be left in complete gang control. now three of their members, just the latest victims of that
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unrelenting gang violence david culver joins us now, and just an awful story about this poor couple but of course one of many, many, hundreds, thousands of stories in haiti today can you just going to be truly diving into the fire, right with this if you want to call it p speak, please. keeping your security mission here what are they likely to encounter is a force this size two people to believe a force the size can make a difference i mean, peacekeeping, that's gonna be the big challenge. >> they're going to step into this where gangs have told us one liter. who we interviewed firsthand has said they will face resistance. we don't want any foreign influence, including these kenyan forces. there's about 1,000 or so that they're planning to bring in. these are police officers granted kenya says they're well-trained, they're used to dealing with al shabaab. >> they've been another outside cultures that they feel like language wise, there will be able to adapt even though they don't speak crayola french fat said they'd been delayed and delayed and delayed. we were supposed to see 200 of those officers
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yesterday on the ground. they're still not there. these murders though. this could raise the temperature even more. it's expected that they'll add more pressure to having get them on the ground as soon as possible. >> well, and listen now shabaab, a terrorist organization, if they can handle if that's where they hone their experience they've dealt with this kind of violence before. but boy, the challenges there are just seemed to be unique and enormous. they'll gabor thanks so much for your reporting. coming up next two years ago today, 19 children and two teachers were killed in the school shooting in uvalde, texas. this program has been committed to remembering the many victims and investigating the inaction by police officers on that day. tonight, we hear from survivors who of course will never forget what happened did you know that only one in ten americans consume adequate amounts of fruits and vegetables. ag one fills nutritional gaps and promotes about health with essential vitamins and minerals you're awesome pre and probiotics and
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elementary school and uvalde, texas on may 24, 2022, the gun stormed into the school and barricaded himself in to adjoining classrooms. >> it took officers 77 minutes to finally confront the shooter. and for the last two years, families of the victims had been fighting for justice. tonight, the uvalde community is holding vigils to remember the victims cnn's shimon prokupecz went back to uvalde to speak with some of the survivors community has been gathering here in the town square with family members and victims raising arm flags to end gun violence and to remember the 21 who died two years ago and we've been speaking to the families and the victims who are still seeking justice and accountability for the failures that day this is a piece of my back the muscles that are right
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here you know which ones they are i've never seen europe because used to cover yeah and synthesize took cover, right. but i got to get used to it and people got to see it face it, and say hey you got shot in the arm hopefully they see it. they'll change their minds about guns, right? you just put on there together like that. yeah. >> our new full reyes is the teacher who's survived two years ago. he was shot in his arm and his back, then was just simply tortured for 77 minutes by the gunman police were outside died as he was inside fighting for his life, somehow a miracle. >> he survived after its begin with parents and stuff they're like they saved you. >> the kids? yeah they saved they became angels instantly. >> and save aj was in the
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classroom next to races, the gunman shot him in the leg walking for years been better a little walking or is it still i know you have the injury. yasmin bedroom i don't tell me what life life has been like for the low pass two years since this happened it's been sad happen mab has been having and the two as the two years have passed and you've reflected on different things what do you want people to know please don't all like any towns four people were nagar, step up to the plate, 11 year-old aj is still trying to make sense of the failures that day. nearly 400 law enforcement officers responded and yet they fail to immediately take action and enter the classrooms with the victims do you miss being in the classroom? >> i do. i do miss it.
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>> that was that was my identity and my my life do you ever want to go back oh, no. >> how come i don't want to have that responsibility again many of the victims have had trouble returning to school, but newly elected school board member with ties to the families is bringing new hope to this town. we need to rebuild, trust and transparency and get them in school. i had a family member reach out to me and she said, if you get on that board, i'm taking my daughters for back to that school. >> it's it's a lot. i mean, i feel like it's a big weight on my shoulders, but i take it very serious specific numbers as the signal raise. >> now spans all it's time at a store, he runs with his mom, one of the gifts that you bring is telling us what happened that day and if it wasn't for people like you, i don't know that we would ever get some part of the story that was it that happened inside. yeah.
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they probably would have told or not told anybody anything but we survived in and i think that's the reason that i keep going. i keep going and i keep on talking because it's for them. it's for the kids and for all 21 that day i just want the world to be more no more like school shootings or nothing. every time i see you, you're always smiling i think these situations people always want to find hope. they always wanted to see that there's something positive what do you think that is for you here's me happy me, happy. >> every single would like this life good, good for him it's such a reminder, right? >> that for the survivors that the trauma, physical and mental last long after the event i
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wonder what's the status of the lawsuits, the multiple lawsuits filed by the victims families. it's not going to erase that trauma, but they're looking for fairness. they're looking for justice they're looking for justice, they're looking for accountability and there's been a flurry of activity from the lawyers that are representing the families in just the past a couple of days. >> they filed lawsuits against the texas department of public safety, the officers that responded that day against them individually, and then just moments tonight, they filed additional lawsuits against instagram. has parent company meta of accusing them of sort of helping in marketing the weapon that was used here and guns in general that help a groom. the gunman. and they also say that they filed lawsuits against the gun manufacturer manufacturer daniel defense they say all of this helped to create an
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the air this weekend. some airports certainly reporting big crowds so we brought in cnn senior data reporter harry and ten, who knows the numbers, always takes us inside the numbers tell us about this weekend because i feel like there's always talk a record-breaking, but it looks like this one's actually going to be record-breaking. >> we are back from covid baby. we're back, we're looking at 44 million people traveling at least 50 miles this holiday weekend, that beats from where we were back in 2019. of course, we had a real gully in 2020 when we were just 23 million. this is in fact the highest number we've seen in 19 years. and i can tell you on the road to the studio, there are a lot of people on the road. okay. >> that was a lot of traffic getting and i was a little worried. i wasn't going to quite make it, but i didn't fact meghan this. honestly, i think also gets it to me. one is the one of the big myths in your intro. you mentioned the airport crowds. most people when they're going 50 plus miles and memorial day weekend, they ain't going by plane, baby. they're going on the roads. they're driving their cars at 88% of those who are going at least 15 miles are
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going by their car. just 8% by playing other i'm not exactly sure maybe they're taking a boat to their summer house, so i was on the road this morning. >> i was one of those people coming up from dc. tell us about spending specifically as well grilling spending. yeah. so if you ask folks okay. how how much you're going to spend this holiday we can in fact, the vast majority of folks in terms of this holiday are going to spend less than $100, right? there are some people who halloween for the, for the whole holiday weekend, right? for their memorial day i celebrations. but what's the number one thing they're spending money on, jim, its food and i can tell you what the jewish deli earlier today, i spent a lot of money on food was actually my friend gnomes money. but the big thing when it comes to holidays and memorial days, of course, your grill and baby, your grill and you put them food on that grill. so what do you grill them? what's the number one thing? what do you listen? i'm actually a pretty good grip. hello. even though i'm a city boy. so typically, i'll grow our girls de hanger steak, beef. >> beef as number one, nine more in the fish category. >> that's
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