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women with the hiv give birth. so this change in the medical guidance means a lot to many moms out there. i spoke with one mother and colorado who has hiv and she told me she's working with her medical team to safely breastfeed her newborn son. she sees breastfeeding as one of the first things she can do postpartum welcome to help him have a healthy life. back to you? yeah. i think a lot of moms see it that way. jacelyn. thank you. all right. first of all, with victor is coming up next. what do you have? >> well, it's been four years since the murder of george floyd at america still has not had a full rate of reckoning with race in this country and policing. so after the protest and the calls for change, we look into what has really changed, plus a family and seattle says that negligence and discrimination led to their 16 daughter's death and now they're suing seattle children's hospital and others. we're going to speak with them about their loss and the lawsuit they just filed
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also, memorial day weekend, a lot of people people are going to honor military members who gave their lives in service, going to see how group of volunteers is going to honor the sacrifice of black veterans who service was nearly forgotten i'm looking forward to have a great show. thank you very much. let's do it right now. let's start the show well first of all, it is may 25th, four years ago today george floyd was murdered in minneapolis. he was 46 years old. and if i now you've seen the video, then minneapolis police officer derek chauvin knelt on his back and neck for more than nine minutes is fluid repeated? i can't breathe well, that video touched off something in this country. and the big cities across the us and around the world tens of thousands of people at a time demanded an end to police
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violence against black people even in small towns where there really aren't many black people, people marched with signs that a firm black lives matter before i go any further, this narrative that these were rampages destroying america cities. yes, there was some arson, some luna tnking vandalism at some protests, but by the end of june 20, 2096, 0.3% of the 7,305 damage striations involved, no injuries, no property damage. that's according to a group that studies marches and protests. so we've now settled that but the summer after floyd's death was branded as a racial reckoning in america was it and we certainly saw a lot of performances. remember these this was blackout tuesday people posted black squares on social media. this was in solidarity with the black lives matter movement record companies that day said we're not going to release any new music anja obama? came off the
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pancake box, uncle ben became ben's original eskimo pie is now eds pi. all long overdue, but that was not the point some confederate statues, they came down though not without a fight city's painted black lives matter down the middle of the street. that was not the point either the point of the movement was to end police violence and disproportionate use of force against black people but it didn't. four years since george floyd's murder, use of lethal force still plagues american cities. according to the aclu police killed at least 1247 people in 2023, more than any previous year on record so far this year, there have been only nine days in which police did not kill someone the movement called for change in how police officers are trained and how they're held accountable. but the george floyd justice and
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policing act is still not a reality. it was reintroduced in the house this week, where it will likely die again. so for years and where are we doing to me now is george floyd's brother, terrence floyd. tara, it's good to see you i want to start though with your brother. you didn't lose an icon, you didn't lose a catalyst. you lost a loved one, you lost a brother. so on this day, what goes through your mind goes through your heart? >> of course, of course i remember the may 25th, 2020 but also i remember my brother as he was gentle giants, where we used to call them, you know, could use a big guy, but he was loving he was a compassionate. he loved the community. tell he was in he loved the community that he was from, which was houston i just i just miss him,
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you know, and that's basically what i'm feeling right now yeah. >> you have since started a non-profit and i wonder as you assess the changes since 2020 is there some substantive change that you see that that maybe i left out that you see that there is progress that is measurable. in the last four years? >> well, like you said i started my non-profit organization called we are flowing based out of brooklyn, new york on, on the streets out on a local star and the local sayyed, i see change when it comes to the people with unity, with love and compassion put a neighbor, i see that as far as the police, i see some change. i usually say slow motion. it's better than no motion. i see slow movement on it where
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there are offices. >> they always been offices in law enforcement. that kid for the community. and it was always the rotten apples that made it bad for all of them. but i see more coming out and really be a compassionate with the community, especially where i'm where i'm from i'm saying when i'm out in brooklyn, new york, i see that i saw that you were at the funeral service for frank tyson in ohio? >> yes, sir. we showed the bodycam video early this month of where? in canton, ohio police officers there they knelt on his back and afterward, he said he couldn't breathe. the officer said that you're fine, shut the f up when you see an officer kneeling on the back of a man, he says he can't breathe. he then subsequently dies what what goes through your mind? what do you feel as you're there with another family?
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>> i'll fill it it's hatred towards us for some reason i see hatred towards us and and it has to stop. that's why my family, along with other families and politicians and people in the community of fighting to get george floyd policing act passed. don't and what i want to let people know, don't focus on the name focus on the content that's in it what is going to do for future generations? how it's going to help future generations not have to deal with what we're dealing with right now. >> the house passed. the george floyd justice and policing act twice. it died in the senate the first time, mostly held up on qualified immunity, which offers some civil protections for law enforcement when you look at the movement that we saw in 2020, and this national
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consensus, really a global consensus, because as i mentioned, these protests were overseas as well how do you reconcile? what we saw as a national consensus that something has to change and the inability for that too the translate into some national legislation does something i've been i've been charged to figure out for the last four years i basically had basically saying i stand on my work when i say it's up to us as a community, as a race, as a culture to stay united because there's always going to be a fight against us but we can't fight each other up the fight together against the the era of everything, the spirit of every day. >> and make sure that we stay prayerful and stay stay in
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unity terrence floyd, brother of george floyd. >> i thank you for your time, especially on this day that so important. terrence. thank you so much thank you. joining me now, is cynthia rosebury? she's director of policy and government affairs at the aclu's justice division. cynthia, good morning to you. let me start. where terrence left off and that's the george floyd justice and policing act. congresswoman sheila jackson lee introduced it again. now, on the fourth anniversary or the fourth year, i should say of george floyd's murder, has the moment four national legislative change past. now that the crowds, the tens of thousands of people have focused somewhere else oh, good morning. >> thank you for having me and i said my condolences to mr. floyd's family frankly, this is another part of the cyclical
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nature of black man, particularly being killed by police. and they're being an uprising in response to it. but no action by our legislators nobody else should die at the hands up police. everybody deserves to be safe. >> and the truth is that there is an unbroken line between the slave patrol and today's police, including white supremacy so. >> on the effort to change the law a national movement because we're going to talk as much about policing now in 2024 as we did in 2020, obviously, there aren't the massive protests on the street, but we don't expect this piece of legislation to pass and republican controlled house is that moment over to pass something without the catalyst like what we saw with george floyd well, you know, i would hope not as mr. floyd said, it
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we have to continue to advocate for this change and there is one glimmer of hope in that police, people who are outside of the communities that are significantly harmed by police violence are, are beginning to hear what we've been saying for so long and two a lesser degree lawmakers are beginning to here we see that by virtue of the reintroduction of the george floyd policing act. >> but a lot more needs to be done. a lot of bold action has to take place you follow criminal justice and policing for the aclu i wonder if you're seeing more success with changes. some of these laws have banning chokeholds and stranglehold on the local level in cities, in states at the municipal level in places where there are alternative responses to police, there is some
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progress we don't ask one profession to do everything, and that's what police have been asked to do to respond to every crisis. the truth is he made mental health professionals and other trained professionals to respond so that we don't end up with lethal contact with law enforcement so in places that have begun to embrace alternatives to police responses, we are seeing some progress with respect to policing on the local level and state level because i think that's more interesting. we've watched this kind of static standoff in congress over this legislation as it relates to policing. frankly before the murder of george floyd. but certainly since lately, at some of the issues that we talk about, especially on this show, dei, some of the controls over restrictions and curriculum they fall along political leinz does this locally at the state
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level also fall on those leinz or are we seeing that some republican led city? there's some republican led legislators legislatures are making changes what we're really seeing is the need for a culture shift across the political spectrum in police departments we can really get legislation from either side of the aisle. >> but unless and until there is a culture shift within police department, you won't really see any significant change so while there are more people from a broad political spectrum beginning to understand and hear what communities that are harmed are saying it is the bold culture shift. it's a accountability right? you talked about qualified immunity earlier. we have to not allow police to act and to commit misconduct with
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impunity they need to be held accountable for their misconduct. and there has to be a culture shift from this idea that civilians are combatant. this military like language to the idea of serving the communities that they're in cynthia rosebury with the aclu. thank you so much so a strategic meeting and swing-state starts up some political tension. a trump allies trying to appeal to arab american voters. i want to speak with someone who says he's switching his vote in 2024 plus more legal trouble for sean diddy combs is list of lawsuits grows again. >> new accusations. >> next riyadh say his new album is breaking records gets to say what country columbia country beyond say a nashville's renaissance monday, but aid on cnn for over
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americans for trump, good to have you on, sir. let's start here because two or three weeks into the war. and this is the most recent poll we have, is this specific era of american support for president biden dropped by 42 points from 59% sat down to 17%. this is just in the first three weeks of the war. there between israel and hamas. so there's some opportunity here for president trump what is the pitch for those disaffected voters? >> well, it's very important that we, as arab american go n for president trump and go in early. >> that way we can own the moment we are at the cusp of, having american power and muslim american power in the united states being flexed to the point where presidential candidates are coming to us, whether it's in swing states, especially like michigan, as well as arizona they're coming
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to us as two are for our support. unlikely indicated president biden has absolutely enraged the arab and muslim american communities there is no way people are going in our communities. they are going to vote for president biden period. >> okay, so those, those members of your community who are enraged, as you say, because of president biden's handling of the war between israel and hamas what will president trump offer that will be an improvement based on their definition of what an improvement would be, how would he better help or protect the civilians in gaza? >> president trump, and through his emissaries have indicated to us very plainly and clearly that the president wants to see an end to the war period he wants to see a period of reconstruction, a period of economic development and a path
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leading to a two-state solution so with those kinds of promises coming from president trump whom we know very well strikes fear in the heart of benjamin netanyahu he is the only individual that can really affect israeli policies. at the present time, or several, president biden has proven to be particularly, especially week in his relationship with the netanya or president trump. but its most recent interview with time magazine would not commit to supporting a to state solution, but i also want to read for you what he did say also to time magazine in his assessment of israel's handling of the war, i think that israel has done one thing very badly public relations. i don't think that israel defense fund, i think you meant forces there or any of the groups should be sending out pictures every night of buildings falling down and being bound with possibly
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people in those buildings every single night, which is what they do. he suggests here that the only thing he wants to change is showing people what israel does. he doesn't talk about in this interview any major policy changes well, this is not the message that we have heard in troy, michigan on wednesday. >> the message to us we're was very clear. >> the president during his presidency president trump during his presidency did not engage in any wars overseas on behalf of the united states. >> he does not like wars he does not want to spend our children and grandchildren monies and future on sending armaments to two countries. overseas. >> i'm talking here about israel and ukraine for example also said that he wants to end the war between ukraine and russia. >> but the question is, on which end of that war or what
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will he be willing to give up or to negotiate a way to end this war with two says he could do in 24 hours, let me wait one more soundbite here. this is from the former president and walker shaw this month, and i want to get your reaction to it under no circumstances should we bring thousands of refugees from hamas-controlled terrorist epicenters like gaza to america. >> we just can't do it no refugees from hamas control, terrorist errors like gaza, you're the son of palestinian immigrants. you have chaired and bint onboards of many organizations focused on support for palestinian americans and educating americans about palestinians. >> du you support that commitment from the former? >> president? no refugees from gaza you know what? >> i do not want to see a single palestinian leaving the palestine area. the moment really palestine, the moment we lose control over the land. and
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that is exactly what israel, i'm asking you to do you support that if there are people people who choose to come for safety for economic reasons, for any other reason that they want to come to the us, do you support a ban on gazans coming to the us? i don't i don't support a ban on people who seek refuge to the united states. they should be vetted like everybody else and that would be the process. there is a legal system in the united states that there will be findings. what would qualify the qualifications for anyone coming to the united states so they know i obviously i do not support any ban on palestinians, but at the same time, i don't believe that palestinians should be leaving the gaza or, or the palestine area period because the moment we do that, we empty it for the israel last one, last thing here you wrote it out during the 2016 campaign. this was for
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the arizona republic. the headline was gop is bigoted towards muslims. and here are your words the leading republican presidential candidate has gone mad. donald trump is called for surveillance of us mosques a creation of a database of syrian refugees, and would not rule out creating a registry for all american muslims. trump also called for deporting the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants in america and building a large wall around along the border with mexico i'm interested in how you became not only a trump voter, but a trump organizer, considering that's what you said about him in 2015? >> you now the turning point for me, first of all, many of those things that i have said, the only thing that really transpired was the partial building of the wall everything else has not transpired. so what he said and but in reality happen are two different things, which is why i'm really reflected about why you believe
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any of the commitments that you got from his representatives when he is not said those things in public about the war between israel and hamas well, their representatives came to us they came to us. >> they wanted to address the community. they are willing to go back to the community. they're willing to do work inside the community. they are willing to assuage their concerns and i believe that president trump and his team are committed to actually having a better relationship with the arab and muslim american communities there have been clear indications that effect and honestly, anything absolutely anything or anyone is breadth is better than president biden at the present time bishar ababa. thank you so much. ever join the conversation, let's keep it
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story on a blustery spring saturday in york, pennsylvania, the civil war service of john noble is finally memorialized noble was born and have that cuba around 18, 32, he fought for the union army from 18, 62 to 18, 63 and 1902, he was buried in north york's lebanon cemetery until the 1960s. one of the only burial sites in the area for african americans i didn't realize that this was a black cemetery. it was just the place where my relatives were buried. it's only been since 2019 when i started volunteering here that i knew and understood the gravity of what this site meant. >> samantha dorm is co-founder of a volunteer group called friends of lebanon cemetery. when the group first came together in 2019, the primary mission was upkeep now the focus has expanded to research a storytelling education and remembrance, the truth of the matter is many of those stories are not there to be found if
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you don't have families who can tell you about their ancestors, i can tell you about their history, their lineage, those stories these are oftentimes loss, the more than 150 year-old cemetery dorm says is the final resting place of at least 300 us military veterans. this spring, noble and for other black veterans received the grave markers to which every eligible us military veteran is entitled, whether buried in a cemetery maintained by the us department of veterans affairs like this one and alexandra we're virginia or private cemetery like lebanon. >> every veteran has a story to be told. and so without that marker, that story is lost and the legacy of that veteran as lost, matthew quinn is the vas outgoing undersecretary for memorial affairs. he says efforts like that by the friends of limit on cemetery and on other private sites is an extension of the recognition at the nation's va operated cemetery this is reaching out beyond those boundaries to private cemeteries that maybe
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the graves haven't been maintained and the markers have been damaged or destroyed the day is national cemetery administration says they are working with private historically black cemeteries in south carolina, virginia, and pennsylvania and others and local veterans groups, historians and volunteers like samantha dorm to verify service records and issue markers, making sure every veteran service is honored in alexandria, virginia i'm karen kfile artificial intelligence is changing the way that newsroom gathers stories. some jobs are at stake as well, coming you go up, you're going to hear from a writer who says some of those bile lines with names from diverse writers, don't be fooled russia we're trying to spy on us. we were spying on them i'm sally franklin this is a war, but secret war, secrets and spies, a nuclear game premier sunday, june 2, that ten on cnn kinda
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dormi now is nulla, but shari, a columnist and editorial writer at the san francisco chronicle no, look, good morning to you so some of these ai bind lines, letitia ruiz, nina sing hudson, tony ing not real people. these are bile lines attached to these stories written by ai why do you believe that they are using these traditionally hispanic indian chinese certainly surname we'll see if francisco's a very diverse city. and it may be an attempt to reach readers that don't see themselves reflected and other news sources using diversity is an ongoing problem, and it could be that readers may be identifying with people with names that reflect their communities your cola colonization well that thread for me why well, i think it makes a mockery of diversity problems in journalism or research study from a few years ago pulled 12,000 journalists and more than half of them said that there had newsrooms are
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not diverse and do not reflect the communities that i think hover. and i think it's really important for a diverse array of voices to exist in journalism. it's important that newsrooms reflect the diversity of the communities that they cover so phi of vasquez, david martinez, i use should khan, hobby gonzalez, khim train. >> isabella rodriguez. these are just my going to the hood line page and scrolling through maybe the first dozen stories and those names come up. there are some mark washington or that could be a black man mark washington michael taylor's in there too. but if there is and there is a small ai icon there, why does it matter that there is a name? i mean, why even include a name if it's created by a computer that's a good question. >> i think it is going back to building that trust. it is. people want to take it. there is somebody covering their community who is on the ground, who is doing shoe leather reporting. and so it it creates a false sense of that to have
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these names put up there. >> i do think a little ai symbol, which was put on fairly recently, is not something that most readers i can identify with or understand. >> until recently along with those names, they were actually ai generated images of people as well that fit the racial identities of the datums and so i really did create get a false persona if these journalists that do not actually exist in san francisco the publisher of hotlines centers the statement. let me read part of it and get your response the ai persona's were generated at random and not with the intention of misrepresentation. this ai randomization was to ensure an unbiased approach. and we're continuously refine finding our approach to better serve our communities and uphold ethical standards of journalism i mean, we're all dealing with what ai means for the industry. but i guess if we were on the other side of this and all of the evers, no diverse representation would we be talking about a wife? wash of
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ai and eliminating voices of color from newsrooms without the diverse names. what do you think we might be perhaps, but i think if you read some of these articles, they don't read like they're written by people at all some of them are kind of scrambled syntax once you start diving into them, it doesn't actually seem like a human voice in there. >> and that's the most important part of journalism. >> it is just people talking to people at the end of the de and so when that humanity is eliminated, i think there's a real problem with ai going too far. we have a lot of questions to answer it comes to ai in our profession, nulla beshara. thank you so much for being with me this morning a family and washington state is suing a seattle hospital and others how the family says negligence and discrimination led to the death of their 60 year-old daughter the nba playoffs. i always get emotional. you more concerned
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daughter died after months of suffering with me. now, are sahana's parents, nalini and anapathur ramesh, and their attorney, steve berman. thank you all for being with me. and of course, on condolences on the loss of your daughter on a path. let me start with you and you detail in this lawsuit just how much pain sahana was in and you went to the hospital hoping she would be admitted. they did not admit her. what did they tell you? why they wouldn't give her the care you believe she deserved well, i think originally went to let me and my hospital evergreen hospital in kirkland and we went once and then second time they they saw that it was pretty serious against what we today center by ambulance to the ceiling this will take her there at this
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hospital for you guys because we can treat that. >> this is to look complicated. so that's when we went to set a children's er first time we went separately and an ambulance took her from one hospital to another and in the scatter children's when we went there they were even there, they only share their only examining and we thought it's going to be like that that might be going to be staying even for the other scholarly or false. so then let me at the end of that er, at all. it's okay. here's some it is a skin rash. it's called dress. then said at the time but they said it's it's due to allergy and they gave some cream and medication to apply and said, i kept asking me that a life-threatening or not, but they didn't. they said, oh, it's okay on its entered centers ball. >> i just want to let people know that dress is drug-related
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eosinophilia and system that makes systems what is known and that can lead to myocarditis, which is inflammation of the heart, which was eventually what killed sahana. did they tell you that that was a potential risk nalini did they tell you that that could possibly happen no, they did not. >> and i kept asking the title again so the first time i went we there was this emergency physician and i said, i will treated cases like this before they said yes. i asked how many submitting and i said everybody donald. okay. >> so i said so our daughter be ok. they said yes so we trusted them. >> and time and again, my model from india would ask, is there life in danger many times. >> each time we went most, we said is the likely ask is a life in danger? they said no but unbeknownst to us last year
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during that deposition, we found out that they in their internal nodes, had written that this is a life-threatening situation and she could drive dei and there could be multi-organ impact now, we didn't know that if we had known that we would requested we would have asked that we asked them even at one point if she needed to be admitted, but they said no because it wasn't serious i asked for help many times. we didn't know this was a life-threatening situation. >> otherwise, we would have either taken her where are we would push for more care. >> we didn't know what attorney berman institutional bias in medicine we've reported on it and it's well well-known but proving individual racism, individual discrimination is not easy. >> how do you prove that? the reason that that young girl did
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not get the treatment she deserved was because of who she is, because of her race i think we'll have a low multi faceted order approved. one. the parents a kind of, you know, discrimination when you're undergoing discrimination. he didn't three are not explicitly called out because of your race. two, we have an unusual situation here where the universe with the hospital higher, the x attorney general of the united states to study there was racism and he found racism. and three amazingly, one of the treating physicians wrote a paper finding that there was discrimination at the hospital at both admissions and treatment so treating physician finds that there's implicit racial bias as possible steve berman, dileeni rematch, and a anapathur ramesh. thank you for sharing your story with us. will continue to follow your
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lawsuit. there and again, our condolences for the loss of your daughter, suhana. we reached out to seattle children's hospital for a statement. they say, our hearts go out to any family mourning the loss of a child, and we take our responsibility to provide equitable, high-quality care seriously, but cannot comment on this specific case due to pending litigation. cnn also reached out to children's university medical group. we'll be right back from medium rare well so many ways to save life friday while it happy but 3605 by whole foods market. so this is pickleball is basically ten is for baby but for adults, it should be called willful tanis yeah. bonum like a we've got nothing to worry about with e-trade for morgan stanley and they were ready for whatever
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