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york city for those deliberations are set to begin today. >> good morning, everyone. i'm casey haunts it's wonderful to have you with us. >> those 12 new yorkers are about to undertake the task of deciding whether former president donald trump is a felon in just a few hours. >> judge juan merchan will deliver jury instructions and then deliberations will begin. so in theory, we could have a verdict as soon as today, yesterday, closing arguments in trump's hush money trial began with the defense focused on tearing down the credibility of michael cohen calling him the mvp of liars, the human embodiment of reasonable doubt and the gloat standing for the greatest liar of all time prosecutors pushed back arguing that there was plenty of corroboration for cohen's testimony, both from documents and the testimony of others, particularly former tabloid publisher david pecker and while the legal drama unfolded inside the courtroom, the political drama played out on the streets of lower manhattan. trump's supporters and critics
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sparred outside with the actor robert de niro playing the role of attack dog against the former president this guy get on you go joining me in how to discuss shelby talcott reporter for semaphore. >> i shelby. good morning. thank you so much for being here. the niro is seen outside pretty remarkable the obviously the biden campaign decided they were going to bring him in to do this. let's listen to a little bit more of what nero had to say outside the courthouse i love this city. i don't want to destroy it donald trump wants to destroy not only the city but the country eventually he could destroy the world. i owe the
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city a lot and that's why it's so weird that donald trump is just across the street he doesn't belong in my city what's your what do you make of first of all, it's nero said, but second, mother biden decision. >> a biden campaign decision to do this after letting this trial kind of unfold while basically trying to wash their hands of it. >> yeah, this has been really interesting development because for so long the biden campaign has avoided directly are really indirectly talking about any of the trials. >> now when i talked to trump campaign officials, they maintained that this had nothing to do with the fact that donald trump was inside the courthouse, that it was the simple fact that all of the media was gathered in this location, so they decided to come to them. i do, of course, believed that there it is. right. there is a reason that they were outside of the courtroom, even though the majority of what we heard was actually about january 6 and argument that donald trump is a threat to democracy. but it's,
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it's notable because it represents a shift in how the biden campaign is thinking as this trial winds down, we've also heard that joe biden himself might be addressing the trial after wraps from the white house. and so there is a shift going on and i think that is in part because the biden campaign has seen that they're pulling numbers are struggling, that they need to do something different. but it also is the fact that for better or for worse, this trial has taken up a lot of oxygen and all of that oxygen is going to trump and it's been very difficult for the biden campaign to really get through shelby. how was you're reporting on how the trump campaign is looking at how this is unfolded because i mean, it's my understanding, you know, they've been doing play their own internal polling to see how it's been impacting things. and they do seem to be very cognizant of the media attention. of course, when i talked to trump campaign officials, they have maintained throughout this entire thing and really throughout all of the legal issues that he's had that all press is good press. >> now, whether or not you believe that is one thing, but
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it is true so that he is on the primetime shows. he is on every podcast he is being talked about a lot and what's interesting is so far this trial hasn't really made waves in the polling voters don't seem to have tuned in. now that could change if he is found guilty. and so we will see if he is indeed found guilty, if the trump campaign changes their strategy. but so far they viewed this as we're going to say that this is all politically motivated. it worked for us in the primary and it is working for us so far in the general election. so why change when we haven't really seen any major negative effects? we saw that the closing arguments wrap up yesterday. steinglass, the prosecutor, had the last word the jury and he said, quote, you have to put aside the distractions, the press, the politics, the noise, focus on the evidence and the logical inference that can be drawn
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from the evidence. >> use your common sense what is your sense of where the trump campaign thinks that this is ultimately going to fall because i've seen in that they may think they're best-case is a hung jury yeah. they are preparing for every scenario. right. a few weeks ago, i reported that they were preparing for donald trump to pitch potentially be in jail for those gag order violations. there certainly preparing for that very possible reality now, as well, and they're they're preparing for it in terms of how do they message that but they're also preparing for a hung jury and how they message that. and so i think if you depending on who you talk to in trump's orbit, you'll hear different things. some people think that the case is so weak that there's no chance that you'll get convicted. other people are saying honest i have no idea. and so it's really interesting to talk to these folks over the past few weeks and months, because there is such a varying degree as to
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what's going to happen in the next few days. >> i mean, look, anybody that tells you they know what the jury think is thinking right now, it doesn't smoke. all right. >> shelby, talk about thank you very much. being here this morning. >> all right. ahead. here are the white house announcing whether israel's deadly attack on a refugee camp in rafah crossed president biden's red line plus widespread devastation station as flooding and severe storms target texas again and golfer scottie scheffler's police assault case heads to court today in one of the most active 22 seasons. you can't control a tornado. >> what kinds of interventions can we design? >> go win sayyed distort the premiere of planet earth with liev schreiber sunday at nine on cnn new grid. >> this in my bag like a bunch of groceries. are these cheese
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displaced families in rafah that had been designated by israel as a safe zone. >> that hasn't stopped the carnage just a short distance from where sunday's strike took place and other camp was hit killing at least eight people knew cnn reporting shows the munitions used in sunday's attack were american made, but the white house says this doesn't cross president biden's red line this is not violate the red line prison laid out. >> we don't want to see a major ground operation. we haven't seen that at this point as a result of this strike on sunday? i have no policy changes to speak to. it, just happened. the israelis are going to investigate it so we can remind you where the president's said his red line is, this was him speaking with cnn's erin burnett less than a month ago. >> watch they go into. rafah. i'm not supplying the weapons that have been used historically to deal with rafah, to deal with the cities that deal with that problem we're going to continue to make sure israel is secure in
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terms of iron dome and their ability respond to attacks like came out of you least recently but it's assists wrong. we're not going to we're not going to supply the weapons and artillery shells use that have been used shells as well. yeah, i totally shelf all right. >> join me now in an international inke, max foster at max. good morning to you. so it seems like what the white house is saying here is that the red line in question is a full-scale invasion of rafah. this does not amount to that what do you see here in terms of basically the credibility of that assessment based on what we're seeing on the ground and rafah well, they're different parts of this. >> we've got the tanks that have going in to refer. so that suggests the ground invasion. but as you say, not a major ground invasion which is what the white house house clarified yesterday president biden in
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that clip, you just said said it was just going into rafah, so some clarity. if you like, on the red line, there. and then there's this other red line which is the civilian casualties in gaza. and particularly this encampment where we had multiple civilian deaths and only two hamas members, as we're that we're aware off in the israelis that were killed as a result of that. so lots of civilian, civilian casualties as expected in rafah from a targeted operation. but one where there was clearly some sort of intelligence failure because the israeli suggesting there was a hamas weapons depot there, which is what caused the wider fire that took in the civilians. but of course it needs an investigation. but as the white house said yesterday as well, very difficult to do during a war right? >> so max, what do you see as the next move here? we've obviously seen more european countries recognizing palestine. there have been
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developments around the international criminal court for handing down these indictments or expected, i should say, to hand down this warrant at for benjamin netanyahu, the prime minister of israel, just in terms of the continued isolation, it seems that israel is facing not from the united states, but from other western countries. >> yeah, what we've had big demonstrations in europe yesterday against what israel is doing is saying, isn't self-defense. when so many people are dying but also this growing narrative, which is an issue for all of israel's allies that they are complicit in war crimes effectively. and that speaks to your point that you made there about are investigation into these us weapons were used in that attack on that tented tented area. so that's an issue. i think immediately the implications or what happens security council today when there'll be discussing a
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ceasefire, yet again, and all eyes really on the the us. if these were american weapons, surely they have some responsibility here is the argument about those that want them to go for a ceasefire. but whether or not there is a ceasefire moving been there before, haven't we the security council hasn't called for a ceasefire, but it does put the spotlight on the us at the un and its role here and exactly where that red line is because because it is very difficult to see right now, right? >> well, and it's also, i mean, the sort of conditions of war that there's the argument that this lit up potentially munitions that were stored near civilians. it's definitely a difficult i set of realities to grapple with max foster. thanks very much. as always, i really appreciate it all right ahead here. >> a new challenge in getting aid to gazans after a us built floating dock broken apart, plus y, donald trump can say anything he wants to in his classified documents case
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arrested earlier this month for allegedly assaulting a police officer while attempting to drive into the valhalla golf club for the pga championship? nearly 30 million people facing severe storm threats today, mostly in the rockies and texas where another person died tuesday when a house under construction collapsed on him hurricane-force winds, torrential rains also flooded roadways near dallas. dallas are meteorologist elisa rafah tracking all of it for us. elisa, good morning. what are you seeing good morning. >> it's been a busy stretch of a couple of days overnight. we had hail in parts of colorado near denver that there's still much of it that fell. it looks like snow. this is not snow lining the streets but a bunch of hail pallets. you can see flooding, rains as well in some of the streets of colorado. and again, all of that piled up to the thigh. that is all hail. just incredible to see such intense storms yesterday in texas, we had wins upwards of 80 to 95 miles per hour. the colony texas 95 mile per hour wind does straight-line winds
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blew through the city. that's still has nearly 500,000 customers. i have 1 million people without power this morning as power crews work to restore power. here's a look at a couple of those storms this morning that are sitting in parts of texas. there's some severe meaning we're just finding some heavy rain at times in some lightning not really finding the wind gust this morning, but we could continue to find maybe some damaging winds and large hail and an isolated case, not nearly as bad as yesterday, over parts of texas from shreveport back down into houston. we'll find that level two out of five flight, whereas for rapid city, back down towards denver in the high plains as we go through the day today, again, a couple plus dorms possible, but not as destructive as yesterday, going into tomorrow, we could find additional storms blowing over the texas and oklahoma panhandle. and then that can organize into some damaging winds as we wake up thursday morning as this the multi-day severe threat continues tomorrow from a texas into oklahoma, casey all right. >> at least a rough er for us
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right. >> 5:28 a.m. here on the east coast to out west live. look at we are city. it's in summer because the sun is up there. good morning, everyone. i'm kasie hunt. it's wonderful to have you with us. >> jury instructions get underway in just a few hours in donald trump's criminal hush money trial. >> and after that deliberations will begin. that means in the coming days, we'll find out if the former president will be a convicted felon. and ahead of election day, closing arguments began with the defense going after michael cohen, one of the prosecution's star witnesses, really the star witness attorney todd blanche, telling the jury, quote his words cannot be trusted. he came in here, he raised his right hand and he lied to each of you repeatedly? you cannot send someone to prison. the prosecution objected to this comment. the judge sustained before blanche rephrased you cannot convict somebody based upon the words of michael cohen the assistant manhattan de a joshua steinglass, pushed back arguing that there was plenty of corroboration for cohen's
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testimony and urging the jury to focus saying, quote, if to put aside the distractions, the press, the politics, the noise focus on the evidence and the logical inference that can be drawn from that evidence. use your common sense, joining me now to discuss cnn legal analyst, joey jackson joey, good morning to you. we heard very long closing arguments yesterday nearly three hours for the defense, early five for the prosecution. one moment that really stood out to me was that place where todd blanche near the end of his closing arguments said you can't someone send someone to prison, which the judge admonished him for. what were your kind of big picture takeaways here, but also your specific thoughts on that moment. >> yeah. case and good morning to you. and so i think in terms of big takeaways, it's going to come down to what everyone was talking about both sides very long as you noted, by the way
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and that's michael cohen and i believe that if the defense is successful in creating the narrative which they have, that michael cohen there's a liar that he can't be trusted, that he is. you remember what they said, casey the globe, the greatest liar of all time, and penning this to him exclusively, right? meaning that this case hinges upon his word. he's the one that directly connects the president since any illegality with respect to their business records and that falsifications with regard to the plot with regard to the conspiracy in the cover-up, you're basing it on his word. not good. guilty. >> if the jury buys that narrative, right. >> however, so that's my takeaway with respect to that from the prosecution side of the prosecution can be successful as they tried for five hours to distance themselves from michael cohen and to suggest that it's not about michael cohen exclusively it's about all first of all, the corroboration with respect to his testimony because everybody else tells you he's telling the truth, but there are other things based upon
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your common sense and good judgment that you would find and believe that the former president was guilty of doing this. the motivation being stormy daniel's the motivation being the impact that would have on his campaign, the motivation being hiding it from voters, the motivation being to interfere with the election. then the prosecution takes the ground. so those are the big takeaways. it comes down to michael cohen, right? and in the event that the jury three gets one of those narratives, they'll go on that side last point, casey, in terms of the issue regarding prison, you can't say that the jurors are not sentencing anybody. the jurors are there to make a determination as to facts judge, does sentencing the judge will instruct the law in a few brief bowers with regard to what you can consider and what you can't. jurors at a motion and sentencing is not one of them. and that's why the judge went semi ballistic saying that it was an outbreak i a statement from a lawyer who certainly knew better semi ballistic. i did i'm not sure. i quite realized that was a category we can hit control
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ballistic i mean, it just it seems very political to me in this case. >> you know, it could be the bottom line is that we're going to have to see whether or not really the jurors can parse out the political from the legal, obviously outside the courtroom, casey, there are antics and everyone has an opinion but i think it's different when you're a juror, when you listen to 22 witnesses, right? when you listen to so many days of testimony, when you hear the facts and the issues relating to whether or not that was business record falsification relating to what the intent or purpose of them that might have been relating to the conduct of misconduct or lack thereof. and so there are certainly elements of politics we've seen that with regard to trump's support is showing up. we've seen that with regard to trump coming outside the courtroom saying, hey, nothing to see here, political persecution. we've seen that within fist-pumping before he goes back in. but at the end of the de the verdict has to be about the merits of the case so the lack of the merits of the case and the
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notion that we all call and speak about, which is reasonable doubt so joey, we have some reporting from our paula reid here at cnn that the trump team continues to think that a mistrial is the best likely outcome for donald trump here. >> but they also say they're concerned about what's about something that's called a quote unquote allen charge, which my understanding i honestly need your understanding? standing on what that means and what that might look like as we enter this deliberation phase yeah, sure. >> casey so in terms of the mistrial, i think the reason that that's a victory and that's what you shoot for a mistrial and essences when one or more jurors refuse to convict you need a unanimous jury of 12 to render a conclusion. and when one or more say no, it's over, that's a mistrial and he has to be tried again. the reason that would be a victory is for the following reason. number one, if trump gets elected the trial because of doj hey, guidance.
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right. ms trauma. and you have to retry it all over again before a new jury he would have to it would be delayed for four years. they're not going to do that. i think it would be certainly remote to think that after his presidency, he should he be elected, that he would be retried if he loses the election. i think the interest in the prosecutors in doing this again, would certainly not be there. what's the point in terms of the allen charge? so that would be a victory in terms of the island charge. they call it the dynamite charge. and that's a little premature to get to. and what that means casey is when a jury is out and they're having trouble rendering a conclusion fujian and they're just not getting there. they'll send a note to the judge. judge will hopelessly deadlocked charge. we can't get through those, judge, what i can make a decision, judge, and say, come on in here and i'll read them a charge that says, listen, we're not asking you to subject a conscientious views to disregard to conscientious views. what i'm saying is that there's no jury that could be better than you. there's no other jury that can view and evaluate the cases. closely as you have and could be as good as you are. go back into that
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room. and if you have a belief that could be shipped, not asking you to shift it, but if it could be moved based on the opinion of another, listen to that opinion. >> and be fair and reasonable and opening up your mind about changing your view if you feel like it's so that's what the dynamite charge is in the trump's concern is by saying that that other jurors would the compelled to change their view. >> the allen charge has been around for a long time. it's certainly constitutionally proper when a jury cannot reach a conclusion for judges to instruct them to that. but it is a concern because what you're doing in essence is telling the jury make a decision, come out here and give me a verdict. sometimes you do. sometimes jurors say, judge, we can't do it, will hopelessly deadlock. we got to go. >> that's how fascinating. alright, joey jackson, always a pleasure to have you. thanks so much for being here of course. >> thanks all right it is naturally hard to predict what impact, if any, this verdict is going to have on the 2024 election, a recent quinnipiac university poll asked trump supporters how a guilty verdict
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would impact their vote 24% said it would make them more likely to vote for trump 6% said it would be less likely and 68% said it makes no difference at all. trump is of course, tried to delegitimize these proceedings along the way. his sons were standing up for him outside the courtroom yesterday. here's what they had to say. >> we understand that this is a political persecution that was evidenced today. today by the biden campaign themselves holding a rally here. this sham prosecution this insanity, this abomination has to stop now because biden is in competent and he's losing in all the polls across the board as this is their answer, i want to say sorry to the jury. three, that's in there. >> this has been the greatest colossal waste of time all right, driving now cnn political analyst and washington bureau chief for the boston globe, jackie percentage. jackie, good morning. good morning. i see you. >> this is sort of the most forceful defense we've heard from trump family members as
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this is snowballing and ramping up here. of course, we have not seen melania trump. we have not seen ivanka trump or her husband, jared, who were in the white house what did you see in that in that defense there. i mean, obviously they're making the same argument. they or their fathers been made making what we just did, the don junior with the reasons he hasn't been there. he had knee surgery, i believe and so but i'm eric trump has been there since a few weeks ago. i believe, showing up, standing behind his father, but listen, he's used his sons two or sons have been an advocate to amplify what he said in the past. now, it's, it's not terribly surprising that we wouldn't see the wonka. she's she's been someone who is pulled away from the spotlight in terms of the campaign. and now apparently the trials might we see her down the line? what to see, but she said at the beginning of all of this that she wanted to spend more time or for kids who were becoming a lot more aware of their grandfathers position as they've gotten older and wanted to keep them away from that. and melania's be
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intrigued trusting she's also chosen when to show up in public, when to not this has obviously been because of the charges and what they're all wrapped in a bit you heard a lot about stormy daniels? yes. exactly for millennia, but she also has a way of showing up where when it's unexpected. so we'll hospice safe. yeah. >> so we did see the biden campaign bring out robert de niro yesterday along with we should note to capitol hill, are police officers who were i hurt in the riot or who were at the riot on january 6? that was interesting decision that they came out after weeks of basically all but ignoring the proceedings in the trial that they came out and did that publicly. i mean, what is your view of why that's changing? >> so i think it'll be a little bit of a tooth excuse me, if that morning it's very early is really key but it'll
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be a little bit of a choose your own adventure depending on what the verdict is. i don't know that you'll be hearing the biden campaign and democrats talking about this constantly. if in fact he is acquitted i think it will just be moving right along, but if he is convicted that would be a probably a different strategy. i did think that nero thing was frankly a little weird because the capital policeman really do force a key tenant of the biden campaign, which is the importance of democracy. biden talks himself a lot about january 6. and these officers were on the frontlines of that riot. so they do have a very unique message and story to tell. de niro was there. i mean, i guess he said he was there to be a new yorker. he was he was provided narration. her recent biden add and in some interesting narration, there yesterday. well, he was when he was at the microphones, he was closer on. their message. right. but i was these can see in there shouting at at trump supporters who were there
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that were some of the stronger moments. yeah, there you go. right bleep. >> we're going jacket percentage strong. >> thank you for being here all right. >> coming up next they bring in robert de niro hulu shot down, but apparently he needs attention because it's been a while since he's cranked out a good movie the biden campaign as we were just discussing pulling out all the stops for the final days of trump's criminal hush money trial, plus the timberwolves beaten out the maths to avoid a sweep coming up on the bleacher report a series of steps against superstars three minutes, come on with me, ready to play his dallas, ready to buy again for the western conference final presented by geico covaries begins tomorrow with seven, 30 on tnt i've got good news. >> a murder working stick i'm sorry. >> what? >> she watches a lot of true crime welcome to a family
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ran and hidden the white house bunker when there were protesters outside no way he doesn't get blood on his hands? >> no, he doesn't. he directs the mob to do his dirty work for him by making a suggestion that was hollywood icon robert de niro appearing requests the biden campaign outside the manhattan courthouse, where donald trump's criminal trial has been taking place. >> so it's a pretty significant shift for the biden campaign until now, they've stayed relatively quiet about the former president's ongoing criminal trial. the trump campaign jumped at the chance to call the biden campaign's appearance at the courthouse proof that the trial is political persecution so the biden folks have finally done it after months of seeing the politics had nothing to do with this trial. >> they showed up and made a campaign event out of a lower man at trial day for president trump in the best that biden can do is roll-out a wash cup.
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actor all right. >> joining me now, washington post national political reporter, isaac, or in store for isaac. good morning. thanks so much for being here. >> this is a significant shift. i know you've been covering this trial day in and day out. >> how what does this represent to you? >> what do you see here? and what is your reporting telling you about why they decided to do this? >> well, what i'm hearing from the biden people is kinda reminds me actually have some of the other republican campaigns during the primary of a frustration with being kinda unable to get their own messaging out with all the focus and attention on trump and his criminal cases and so they showed up and it worked from that perspective, right? we're talking about it this morning. whiskey was carried live in they managed to change to show up, get all those cameras turned around from the courthouse to them, and to talk about a subject that they wanted to talk about. but like in the clip, you play that came at the cost of giving a little
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bit of grist to this claim that trump and his campaign have consistently been making of trying to portray this trial as political yeah. >> i mean, it does almost seem like they were taking a little bit of a page out of the maga playbook, if you will well you know, maybe a trump specific playbook of if you see cameras get in front of them trying to make herself the story. >> i mean, there was definitely i think an unstated agenda here also of rolling out to nero, getting the jason miller and trump himself talking about robert de niro in his movies rather than oh, issues that are actually going to decide the election. >> yeah. i mean, i guess i guess i raise that because i mean, look, we saw dinner at the microphones there, which clearly like the biden team was into that. but what really caught my eye certainly was this incident of him crossing a street. watch this this guy get
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on okay yeah. >> i was like i almost had to make you can't can't even hear half of the clip that's going on there. i mean, that kind of a scene is the kind of scene that we see in the pilot, in politics in the age of donald trump yeah well, it's also an authentic new york moment but there was a guy on rollerblades who was circling around when trump's children we're talking and swearing at them and heckling them as well. so that's sort of like if you if you choose that venue, you're going to deal with whatever is out on the street of lower manhattan. but yes, absolutely. you heard the niro addressing that. you heard the year heard the officers addressing that that that the trump's supporters were right
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there shouting at them, calling them traders yesterday, just like they were when they were defending the capital on january 6 so isaac, you write in your story to about come looking ahead to how the biden campaign is going to handle the eventual verdict hear you say this quote, biden officials, are you they've not changed the attack noting tuesday's news conference did not contain any commentary on the actual court proceedings but officials have started a plan for how to respond to the verdict including the possibility of referring to trump as convicted felon donald trump in social media posts. >> no final decisions have been made. official said this does, of course, underscore that they still are in official. >> let the old version of campaigning. >> i mean, donald trump himself would not hesitate to use this kind of language immediately. the day after if if rolls, were reversed but they are considering how to do this. what do you expect from them in the event trump is convicted?
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>> well, right. trump has been calling biden far worse for a long time with no evidence, but but that's right. i mean, the sensitivity, especially at the white house, but also on the campaign is again, not wanting to give any credence to this claim from trump. trump is all about trying to portray the trial as political. so the bile in campaign approach has been, don't give him any corner with that by talking about it. but once there's a verdict, once there's a jury who have rendered durde conviction, and that's just a matter of law it kind of a matter of fact, a matter of public record. it gets a little bit silly to kind of put your fingers in your ears and not deal with it. but it is certainly complicated while you have the federal cases that are still pending. if if they make it to trial and that's where this was the state case. there's another layer of removed from the white house and that sensitivity has even higher with the federal cases. >> know for sure. all right. isaac, aren't store for us. isaac, thanks very much for being here. i really appreciate it.
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>> thank you all right. >> time now for sports, the timberwolves clawed her way to a win over the maps to avoid being swept out of the nba the playoffs, carolyn maddow has this morning police report karatay. good morning. >> good morning with their backs against the wall down three nothing, minnesota. when in the less size game a dallas with a chip on their shoulder timberwolves have led in the final five minutes of the fourth quarter of every game of this series. but this time they finally got it done behind the one-two punch of anthony edwards and karl-anthony towns sounds it man, scoring 29 points to go along with ten rebounds and nine assists. towns meantime, dropping 25, including 20 in the second half of the one but 100 when and with the series at three, won game five, moving in minneapolis tomorrow night i'll to the playoffs only three times. >> i've never been swept so get i took it parson. no, i didn't want to go home. i don't want to get swept. i definitely don't want to get swept. not on a home home-court appearing to fans talk trash all day. so i may i think we came out and compete at a high level today in the stanley cup playoffs, the panthers and rangers needed overtime for a
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third consecutive game. this is the panthers churn two pounds, florida sam rinehart coming up huge. she scored on the power play for the 3-2 game-winner as the series returns to madison square garden tomorrow, tied at two games apiece when james tight and and the way we play, we're going to generate chances the more we can stick with it, the more we can stick to our structure more comfortable will be. >> you've got to believe that that no one's gonna go in and today majorly baseball will announce it for the first time. >> statistics from the league kept between 19201948 will be incorporated into the official major league baseball stats that's according to a person familiar with the announcement, who spoke with usa today, this will further underscore the careers of players like call a same catcher, josh gibson, who will now be majorly baseball is new all-time career leader in batting average, slugging percentage, on-base percentage, the league was an integrated until jack thank you robinson
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famously broke the color barrier back in 1947. and more than 2000 players did not get an opportunity in the major's before that time. so pretty cool news and the birmingham southern college baseball team is heading to the division three world series but when they take the field, their school will no longer exists. the small private liberal arts college has been open since 18, 56, but it's closing on friday because of financial difficulties. the same de that the panthers will play for a shot at a title in east lake, ohio, a gofundme page has been set up to help the teams world series trip. it's already exceeded its initial goal of $100,000 it's still climbing i think it'd be amazing to win a national championship will be just a testimony to not only our team, but everyone that's one of the jersey before us. >> i think when they get done, i think they're going to realize just how special it is that they were the last team standing and they were able to show everyone not just baseball, but but what a beacon on the hilltops that athletics has been casey small liberal
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arts institutions that face a lot of adversity over the last couple of years, these championship finals the same day that the school is slated to shut down news. so sad, but the athletic director says that they're really grateful for the long supporters and then also this new community that is supporting this trip to the college world series praising offering a little bit of cash to help them along the way yeah, bittersweet for sure. but good luck to them, carolyn. thank you very much. i really appreciate it are coming up next year 12 manhattan jurors preparing decide the fate of the former president. >> it's gonna be a history making moment plus, senator chris coons joins us live from taipei to talk about the concept consequences for china. >> if they invade taiwan check. we hear nothing the space shuttle accident, it's usually not one thing. >> it's a series of events is that part of the wing coming up? >> pardon space shuttle
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