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drama that is ben donald trump's criminal hush, money trial is nearing its long awaited finale. but before the jury can write the final script, it appears that they want to rewind and re-watch episode number one. today, the 12 jurors ended their first day of deliberations by asking to review testimony from the very first witness. we took the stand, feels you cannot remember. allow me to help you as name with david pecker. you remember he's the head of the national enquirer, the one who said that he would catch and kill stories to help trump's campaign. trump's so-called eyes and ears. the juror is asked for three different parts of his testimony. now, one is about that 2015 trump tower meeting where pecker says that he talked about how his magazine could possibly help trump's campaign the jurors, they want to hear more though, they also want to get to michael cohen's testimony
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about that meeting. and the other is a phone call that pecker had with trump, in which pecker recommended that trump via that karen mcdougal's story to keep it quiet. and the fourth one, because there are four separate ones they want to hear about. is pecker's testimony about not finalizing that karen mcdougal deal at amaro morning, the jury will get at least a half hours worth of that testimony read back to them again at their request. they also want to hear the jury instructions again the same one, the judge, juan, we're shine gave them this morning over a period of a few hours, by the way. i want to bring in cnn's the only way and listen for and federal prosecutor elie honig, also cnn legal analyst, karen friedman, agnifilo. karen is counsel for a firm representing michael cohen, but she does not have any contact et with michael cohen and does not work on his case. okay. first of all, helped me to unpack for a second. karen, what it means to have this court reporter read everything. it's not a quick process. there's no cameras in the
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courtroom, no audio. it has to be really pony express style. right? >> so a court reporter is a lot i've human being who sits in court with this little stenographer machine right in front of them and they type in shorthand literally and what happens is it goes on this piece of paper, this long piece of paper, and into a computer. and the court reporter then reviews and edits the computer system and makes a final transcript that includes both admissible things that came into evidence and things that didn't come into evidence. it's really a transcript of the sidebars, the bench conferences. if someone says objection, that's in there and if the judge says sustained, it has everything in there, including testimony. so the reason the court reporter has to read back the information is when they find the portions of the testimony that are responsive to the note, they'll go through and they will read that and then omit the parts. if there's a bench conference or an objection that's why they don't just send it back
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because the transcript has all sorts of information in it. >> they have to read it probably in a neutral way to identify which asks and juror is not gonna be that specific and saying, i want to have the section when this happened, they have to give you a general space to add that in. >> and then who decides what actually get the lawyers? yes. so thankfully, the jurors were pretty specific in that first note, right? when they say we want to hear david pecker's testimony about the august 2015 meeting. you can find that pretty quickly. but what's happening with some of the requests? one of the requests actually is there's a little bit of a dispute because the prosecution usually just wants to put in the heart of the matter the direct testimony but the defense often wants to say, well, you have to include the cross-examination on it, which you do, and then some of the atmospherics around it. so it's going to take this is for some reason we've now decided we're back in the 19th century, right? i mean, no cameras, no audio feed. where normally judges send the jury instructions, the written jury instructions back with the jury, rather than expecting them to somehow absorb 55 pages
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worth of material in new york courts, they don't, they just read it to them and now the jury saying, well, can we have it again, which is a remarkable request. >> i got to say when karen was describing what it sounds like to read it all back. i'm thinking like little milk gallons delivered at your door, milk man somewhere in little glass. >> it's it's very andy griffith. but elie, i mean, there's a portion, karen, excuse me of what will be a part of tomorrow's read back on this point and it centers around trump's phone call to pecker during an investor meeting back in june of 26, and i'm gonna do a dramatic rate good. >> okay. >> so when i got off the phone, mr. trump said to me, i spoke to michael karen is a nice girl, is it true that a mexican group is looking to buy her story for $8 million? i said i said i absolutely don't believe that there is a mexican group out there to buy a story for 8 million. and then he said, what do you think i should do? i said i think you should buy the story and take get off the market. now this is about karen mcdougal, not stormy daniels, but why is this significant? you think to the jurors? so
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this is a conversation between pecker and trump and later on in that conversation, this is where pecker i'm sorry, trump actually deputize as michael cohen and says, essentially, i'm going to talk to michael, let me get back to him, see what he says and i will and he'll get back to you. and that's a key piece of information because if you remember what the defense is saying is they're saying michael cohen went row okay. and donald trump didn't know. this is showing here. this is, this is critical information here because this is david pecker now, not just michael cohen saying, i was told by donald trump, talk to michael. michael knows michael is my deputy a few well, by deputizing him again, makes him it makes it made me more plausible for a juror that he would not be the direct communicator, but maybe a conduit and all these things elie the jury instructions that they're going to hear again, apparently tomorrow, which i mean to each his own there are allies of trump who are complaining about the substance
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of what a lot it was boiler plate language. there are senator marco rubio actually took issue with judge merchan tying the jury, that they may consider three different ways, three different predicate crimes that could elevate it from a misdemeanor to a felony and they need not at this point in time decide unanimously which one that is, he didn't like that, right? this narrative is spinning a little bit out of control, right? that talking point, this seems to be taking hold as well. the judge said they can convict him less then you, unanimously. that's not accurate. now, let let me explain the way it works and i think we have a visual that helps us the actual charge that's been brought is falsification of business records under new york law. now, part two, which raises that up to a felony, is in order to violate a state crime here, the state crime is state election fraud, which says you cannot try to interfere with an election through unlawful means. and that brings us to part three. now, the de has argued there are one or two or three of three different unlawful means federal campaign
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laws, tax fraud, and falsification of other business. now, with that menu of three at the end, the judge has said, as long as there's there's a conspiracy to commit any one of them and you don't have to agree which one that's enough under new york law, that's probably a correct version. a correct reading of new york law. we don't know exactly because we're in a little bit of uncharted territory. and this will be a grounds for appeal if donald trump gets convicted not saying he's definitely going to win, we don't know. but it is it's fair to say part three of the crime here, the what's the other other crime they might not have to all agree, but also let's be real here is federal campaign finance law. i mean, the de, barely mentioned tax in his k in their case in chief or in their closing the falsification of other records to me is sort of nonsensical. 98% of the focus has been on federal campaign finance law. so if they convict, it's going to be on that basis. >> well, again, they do have to be unanimous on the overall each of the charges, but they
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note need to prove his prostate peters prosecutors, that trump committed the second predicate crime, but that there was an attempt to do so or you're trying to hide a particular crime. it's hard to read the tea leaves elie honig, karen friedman, agnifilo. thank you both so much because we're going to keep reading those t lives but we did defense of course, is also the banking on a mistrial to get trump off the hook. there's actually a new reporting that suggests that there are pending their hopes on one juror in particular. so why might that be? the answer next adrenaline. >> just like party can't? stand? like a play on words, shot of adrenaline right to the heart red hot deal days are here at verizon. >> get our biggest deals of the season only until may 29 get a bundle of your choice on us from any of our top brands. so
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poker face? >> now reporting there has been reporting from the bulwark signaling that trump allies have set their eyes on one particular juror who allegedly made some kind of friendly eye contact with trump nodded and even smiled. >> and the defense's direction maybe was active listening. maybe it was not. so it does begs the question, is one juror making eye contact to send some sort of signal to the defense or as one trump insiders said, quote, just doing that to f with us before they vote to convict not kind of a glass half full kind of person joining me now, the reporter behind that story for the bulwark mark of hutto and jury consultant, richard gabriel. gentlemen glad to have you both on let me begin with you, mark on this because i guess you got to have hope at the end of the day if you to defend it and looking at one possible juror, knowing that it only takes one to try to acquit or maybe have a mistrial and beyond to influence others. but why is the trump team so hopeful about the possibility of this one
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juror? >> one thing it's not just the body language of the juror when the jury would walk in, they would file pass to the defendant's table past donald trump and all the other jurors were basically look at their feet or look away, not make eye contact. this guy would. and when the various congressional surrogates for trump would come into the courtroom this jurors face would light up especially when he saw ohio senator jd vance. so he seems to be at least in the estimation of the trump crew plugged into who these various political figures are. and he appears to admire or liked them. now again, he could just be being nice or showing good manners so who knows what? but i think this also speaks to a certain level of almost desperation or worry i should say, in the trump campaign and in trump's orbit, that the best he could hope for is a hung jury. they're really bracing for a conviction. who knows what happens then? but to
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the degree standing trial of sort of the stages of grief. looking at this, one juror who makes smiley eyes and thinking, well, maybe he's going to hang a whole jury and miss try. this is sort of the bargaining stage of grief for the trump operation at the moment richard, i mean, i happen to be an expert in smiling that seems to be my forte, richard, but i want to know from your perspective on these things what happens right now as the monday morning quarterbacking and the woulda coulda should and should we have done this and do we do enough? that's all happening while the jurors are deliberating. >> and i'm wondering and do you think they're reading too much into this jurors behavior or mannerisms, or could there really be something there well, you a little bit of both. >> so yes, i think we're reading way too much into it. but the truth is that this is why jury selection is so important because this is a prosecutor, is foreign prosecutor. you are looking for consensus. you have to have a unanimous verdict. so looking
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for those outliers, looking for those more than one person who's going to somehow throw a wrench into the works and is going to fold her arms and say, i'm not going to convict that's becomes important. so the personality dynamic that you're looking for in jury selection is important. are these jurors going get along? are they going to work together whether they're smiling when they're little more excuse me, favorable toward one side or the other that may come and go. you'd never know a lot of jurors tend to try to be stuck in these cases because there they know they're being watched. >> richard, do you put a lot of stock in the amount of time that a jury is out to determine how they might rule yes and no. i mean, the truth is a quick verdict typically favors an acquittal, but the truth is in a case like this, i don't put a lot of stock in it because it is a complicated case, is unique legal theory. if they're 34 counts and there's a lot of evidence, there's five weeks of evidence with 20 witnesses
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that's a lot to go through. and you have very, very smart jurors who are going to take their time, i think with this. so that's why i'm not putting a lot of stock in the timing because i just think this jury wants to make sure they get it right. >> well, mark i mean, i want you to listen to what trump said after court. many are crying this spin listen mother teresa could not be discharged these charges are written. all thing is rigged nobody knows what the crime is. >> nobody knows what the crime it's the dag unnamed the crime lawyer is know to manage expectations, but that's quite the managing of expectations to suggest that mother teresa can't beat these charges, which means if he beats the charges is better than mother teresa. >> i mean, there's a whole lot going on there. what the political message that you think he's trying to convey is he hedging and what will it be if he is acquitted i think donald trump is actually expressing how we actually
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feels, which is that he's probably going to lose this one and he's also looking at the future he has to message and say this was rigged. >> this was a political show trial, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, in the hopes that the nation or a majority of voters by that or believe him, one of the things that surprised the trump campaign. so far and a lot of his advisers is that they've gone through this entire trial. it's been in the news quite a bit. and yet trump's ballot share is still higher than joe biden's. that is donald trump is still winning by an inside the error margin amount in various polls so, so far from the trump's campaign perspective, so good, but no one knows what happens when you actually have a guy convicted of a felony and so he's going to start messaging on that to try to lessen that impact in case he does get convicted. again, my reporting strongly suggests he believes he's going to get convicted in the best you can hope for, is a
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hung jury and a mistrial. >> well luck. give a presidential election comes down to how many smiling eyes are looking at people as they go into the ballot box we've got a whole another issue on our hands, gentlemen. marika pluto, richard gabriel. thank you both so much thanks ahead. >> big developments in the ongoing federal investigation into diddy see that as learning a grand jury may soon soon hear from his accusers plus a former makeup artist for de adn, cassie ventura is speaking up saying that she heard cassie being abused she's my guest and she's next when the competition is a nuclear competition spying is extraordinarily important the russians were trying to spy on us we were spying on them it's a very difficult to determine whom you can trust and this study, frank everything got out
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diddy combs, according to two sources familiar with the probe, investigators are preparing to bring a number of diddy's accusers before a federal grand jury, and it could happen very soon. >> sudan's lins wagmeister has the very latest federal rate agents were spotted carrying a cardboard box and several bags. a flood of civil lawsuits. >> my should be celebrating but the truth is, i'm not. >> and in ongoing criminal investigation of music mogul, sean diddy combs. it's a faulty assumption to presume that is out of the woods. >> now sources tell cnn that a federal grand jury may soon hear from combs is accusers signaling the us justice department could be moving towards seeking an indictment so far, eight people have filed civil lawsuits against combs, seven, alleging sexual assault cnn has learned that some of those plaintiffs have been interviewed by federal investigators in march homeland
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security conducted raids on diddy's los angeles and miami homes, law enforcement sources confirming then that the investigation included a focus on sex trafficking. now, cnn has learned the probe is much wider including an investigation into money laundering and illegal drug charges. sources say was their consent was there forcible compulsion, what their issues involving illegality in terms of drugs or drugging, et cetera, right? we don't know that's something prosecutors a look at savannah, georgia model crystal mckinney is among the plaintiffs alleging combs drugged her. >> mckinney says in 2003, she was then forced to perform oral sex and joi dickerson-neal, seen in this music video with combs alleges she was drugged and sexually assaulted by combs in 1991. and allegation comes called false and offensive in court records. cnn can't confirm which plaintiffs have been interviewed by federal authorities, but sources for me middle ear with the investigation, say the majority
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have been questioned and some have been interviewed numerous times as investigators are digging deeper, it's much bigger than just us. these lawsuits. one source familiar with the case tells cnn a male sex worker who claims to be victimized by combs has also been interviewed. a source saying the worker was seen in footage that's in the possession of federal investigators. it's unclear if that footage was seized during the march rate combs as attorney previously called the federal raids, a gross overuse of military-level force and a witch hunt based on meritless accusations combs has denied many of the allegations in the civil lawsuits i mean, i hit rock bottom, though his only public comments since the race came in response to disturbing video from 2016 uncovered by cnn showing combs throwing his then-girlfriend, cassie ventura to the ground, kicking her and throwing the vase at her so sorry but i'm committed to be a better manager and every day. but the los angeles county
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district attorney's office has set that incident, won't lead to criminal charges because it's outside of the statute of limitations on assault but ventura, like the other plaintiffs, also alleged rape and other crimes in a lawsuit that has since been settled, possibly supporting federal investigators in seeking stronger charges to pursue. >> now, laura, while we do here, that effect federal grand jury may soon hear from combs as accusers. >> it may not be too soon. a source tells me that investigators are taking their time with this investigation because should there be an indictment, they want to ensure that it's bulletproof? that's the word that a source used when i spoke to them, laura elizabeth. >> thank you so much. now i want to bring in mila morales. she's a former makeup artist, four eddie, and also cassie ventura working for diddy for years and eventually becoming a friend of cassius in 2010, myelin alleges that she heard cassie being physically abused
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and was a witness to the aftermath of the alleged the attack. she joins me now. myelin, thank you so much for being here. this has been for so many people illuminating ffu know a witness of anything to tell me how you must be feeling just knowing that this has even come to light well, i have kept this secret for like 14 years. >> i mean, the first time i experienced it was 2010 and i was in the hotel room when puff bro, you know, came in and i had no idea cassie left. and when i woke up, i just saw his his his presence come into the room. they went into the bedroom and shut the door and
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all i could hear a screaming and yelling and whatever was going on in there. i don't know. but all i could think of was to grab cassie, things and start packing it up and just getting her out to safety and bringing her to my house. so that's kinda like what transpired from that night. and once she came out of the room. she was badly beaten oh, my god. >> what did what did her physical appearance look like i mean, it was knots on her knots on her head, black eye busted lip but a lot of nods all over her head. did she go to the police at that point or anything no no, we didn't know what to do at that point because puffy is a very powerful person and we were quite terrified. >> so i just brought her to my
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house. and my friend who is a doctor, i called her and she was thank god, she was in town because we didn't know what to do. and she treated her for just to make sure she didn't have a concussion or anything like that, but it was it was really it was painful to see cassie like that because she's such a a beautiful human being. and for a man to a amanda just hurt any sort of woman or child or animal. it doesn't matter, but cash is a good friend of mine and i just felt so i just didn't know what to do. i felt like i don't even know how to describe how i felt that night. >> did she describe how she was feeling about having that happened? did you get a sense that this was the first time it didn't feel like it because it wasn't it it was almost like
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you know, i feel like she might have been embarrassed that that happened in front of me. but the incident that you're talking about, even predates what we saw in this horrific video from a hotel floor when that video came out what did it feel like knowing that that had now been public? >> no, i was devastated when i saw that video because it was like i actually i witnessed what could have happened in that room. and more. >> so that was a hallway incident. who knows what happened in that room? what i was inside of there and i was i was devastated actually have been devastated since the court cases came out and how he mistreated cassie. >> he has settled the suit involving her specifically, but there are others and there are sources that are telling cnn that the majority of the people
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currently suing diddy are actually speaking to federal investigators, which which indicates the justice department it might be moving close to an indictment. do you think that cassie would testify against him if federal investigators asked her to are compelled her to i'm really not sure. >> i like i said, i can't speak for cast, but i hope she does i hope she does because she's the only one that would know all the information why do you think over the years so my what do you think? >> we've heard certainly, you know, a lot of people in the industry condemn diddy for what they saw on that video. >> but it hasn't been a universal outcry within the industry specifically, why do you think that is because it's a very small industry and we all know each other. and i feel
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like people are afraid to speak up about it. and the only reason why i am is because i'm a friend of cassis and i really care about her very much so. and i'm outraged and very, very like heartbroken about like how he's been treating her it just breaks my heart and i just can't imagine like a man a man treating a woman that way and not just a woman, a friend of mine, that i've known since she was a teenagers. so i've known cassie before all of this so it's it's it's just it's disgusts me. >> i can only imagine of all the women that you have worked with and people who are eager to be in the industry, what they are exposed to, how they could be exploited and abused in a variety of ways. and that's why the idea that not hearing so many more people
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speak up is very frustrating and hurtful. for so many videos it is, it is, it is frustrating, hurtful for me because i just i watch, you know, i know what goes on behind the scenes and it i just can't imagine why nobody's speaking up. i mean, everyone's just hush, hush and quiet. >> i don't know. maybe they're scared i mean, we've all been scared, so i hope this a turning point in my life. so i really hope it is. thank you so much for joining. i hope so. thank you so much, laura, for having me it's important to note we did reach out to diddy's team in regard to myelin allegations, but we have not heard back but if you or someone you know, is a victim of domestic violence and needs help, you can call the domestic violence hotline that number 80799. >> safe. that's 807, 799723 three and ahead, supreme court
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to 369369. today. >> i'm arlette saenz at the white house and this is cnn tomorrow could bring a fresh round of decisions from the supreme court, but tonight, democratic lawmakers are mounting a new push to have justice samuel alito recuse himself from some cases, even after he already said he wasn't going to do that. the reason these two flags symbol
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used by the stop, the steal movement, the upside-down american flags spotted flying days after the insurrection at alito's home in virginia. >> then you have the appeal to heaven flag seen flying lap last year at alito's beach house in new jersey? not tonight. democrats on the house judiciary committee sent a letter to the chief justice john roberts, urging him to request that alito recuse himself earlier today, alito took the unusual step of responding directly to senators who want him to step aside from the cases involving donald trump and january 6, his message he's not recuses himself, but he did confirm that his wife hoisted the upside down flag, quote, in large part, to a very nasty neighborhood dispute in which i had no involvement there was the bus that went over her. there you go. >> the times reports that the dispute actually did happen, but a text message and a police call confirmed by every authorities indicated it happened in february of 2021 that'd be a month after the
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flag was spotted at alito's home as for the appeal to heaven flag, alito insists he was quote, not aware of any connection between this historic flag and the stop the steal movement. and neither was my wife with me now, former obama white house senior director. now you're a hawk and former republican congressman joe walsh. okay so this idea that joe, he is going to say when it was his wife, which i want to be a fly on the wall and that go for you are you doubled down on that? i mean, there was only a question we have. how would that go? one, number two, on this point, is there, is there idea that he is thinking about the optics of this backfire, that it would force alito to recuse himself based on the optics of these flags. >> is this a good or a bad thing? before the political messaging i think it's a good thing political messaging for democrats. >> he's not going to recuse himself. but this notion that this court is so overtly
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political we'll only just politically help energize democrats as it should look. let laura, let's just say what alito did is wrong here. and we may spend three hours debating the difference between the two flags. the appeal to heaven flag different story, historical significance groups across the political spectrum have used that flag. but two hanging upside down american flag in your yard a few days after january 6. that's like hanging are putting a trump or biden signed in your yard. and supreme court justices can not give the appearance of being political rarely they can. >> that's part of the problem because there is no independent body, independent oversight that entire idea of checks and balances on a system whose checking the supreme court, when they decide to get over on their politics, when they decide to start tackling
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day-to-day issues and not looking at the long long-term health of the country. the idea that alito would or would not recuse himself as opposed to somebody else coming in and saying there's an ethical boundary here, you should not be part of this and it goes further go with clarence thomas, justice thomas, i mean, his wife was part of planning january 6, and it's no longer seems to be a question of him sticking around for these cases either. listen to what president foreign president trump had to say. he is weighing in on this issue tonight. listen they're trying to play the rafah alitos, a tough guy and he's strong and very, very smart and he put out a great statements that gave them a lot of credit for. but they play the ref, they intimidate them do you think that alito's intimidated he came out and talk at the first of all, he's got the benefit of having lifetime tenure and like near as point unlike even the other article three judges who also have i'm tenure at the federal bench. there is not that requirement to recuse.
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there is, you know, it's good to be the king and the buck stops with them. >> he feels like he's an untouchable clarence thomas feels like he's an untouchable. this is a dangerous place for this court to be in. laura, i don't know where the chief justice it roberts has got to step in. i know you should roll your eyes at me, but should step in and do something here because they're not going to police themselves. >> one thing to keep in mind is even though he has held the chief justice it's not as if he's the most senior member of the supreme court. that position is filled by the next person if he were to not be there any longer at that next person become the chief justice. there is a kind of democratizing of them physical position, but he knows is in trouble, which is often why he's a swing vote trying to cancel that perception that they are a political entity. but yeah, the idea you mentioned the wives here she said that it was the wife of alito or it was the wife of thomas. >> these are separate independent persons should the justices be held to account for what their spouses are doing?
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yes. well, they certainly think about the answer for it and i want you to give it some megan response, maybe different than should they throw otherwise over the foci there you. >> go there is that challenge of being a public figure like the present united states, where the first lady does reflect on the institution of the white house. there's also so the option of not having put up any flags or not having planned any insurrection events like that could have been a path that the spouse has could've taken as well. >> and of course, we talk about the supreme court more broadly. before roe v. wade was overturned, this was a very big election issue. there were many republicans who said they're going to compartmentalize their feelings about donald trump and their visceral reactions to him personally, because the promise of being able to overturn roe v. wade. and really it remains a campaign issue. the composition of the court and who might decide who's on it. >> just ask the former leader of the senate, mitch mcconnell. >> but these first lady, jill biden, was talking about how
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election could actually impact the court. listen to this think of the supreme court god, talk about things getting worse. yeah. >> can you imagine if we put any more republicans? >> he's on the supreme court no, no lose all of our rights. so we're talking about women's rights, gay rights should they be leaning into this messaging more about the supreme court composition? i said, yes, and i say this as a political conservative it's perfectly okay to use the supreme court to your political advantage. i just worry, i don't want anyone to question the legitimacy of the court but yeah, call them outflow just write the court has questioning. >> it's all legitimacy and providing fodder for these conversations. a. by acting and behaving in unethical ways, by making decisions that go contrary to what they said they would do in their conference. formation hearings, that
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that's part of the challenge of there being no check on the supreme court in lesson we didn't start with the constitution that had nine supreme court justices the court has been expanded and it'll be interesting to see if there is another biden term, how they address this challenge of the imbalance in the court. >> we've got one side, laura, that's it's been talking about rigged elections. i don't want the democrats to be the party that talks about rigged rulings. but go after him politically. >> the challenge we have with the supreme court is there. they're not elected at the end and that lifetime appointment is something very unique in the modern landscape, considering how long people are living these days and they are very savvy about how to answer the question sessions to get at the end of the day, if i hold my breath long enough and bite my tongue long enough, you'll call me justice joe walsh, naira hoc. thank you so much. >> well, move over, babe ruth and ty cobb i've been saying hello to the greatest hitter in baseball history, the legend of josh gibson is next filing
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