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this ended in tragedy we're following these major developing stories and many more all coming in right here to cnn news central right now the jury is entering its ninth hour of deliberations in what could be the first ever criminal conviction of a former president this is now the second day of deliberations in donald trump's hush money trial. this morning started with jurors sending a new node to the judge asking him to reread some of the instructions he gave yesterday, starting with a metaphor about rain meant to help the jury understand how to consider facts and what inferences can be drawn from those, as well as the instructions related to count one of trump's 34 charges. >> jurors also rehearse testimony from key prosecution witnesses, national enquirer, publisher, david pecker and trump's former attorney, michael cohen. these specifically wanted to hear what each of those men said

about the 2015 meeting at trump tower and what pecker said about the catch-and-kill deal with playmate karen mcdougal, including his phone call with trump. we have cnn's paula reid and kristen holmes who are outside of the courtroom there in new york polo, let's talk about the jury instructions what this rain metaphor was all about this metaphor is meant to help the jury understand when did they can make inferences so the metaphor goes like this. >> they're saying, for example, suppose you go to bad one night when it's not rating and you wake up in the morning, you look out your way and though you don't see rain, but you see that the street and the sidewalk or wet and people are ring, room raincoats, and carrying umbrellas. well, under those circumstances, it may be reasonable to infer that is conclude that it rain during the night. in other words, the fact of it having rained while you were asleep is an inference that might be drawn from the proven facts the presence of water on the street and the sidewalk, and people in raincoats and carrying

umbrellas. so this is one of the instructions that the jury is now received twice that this was to help guide them in their deliberations, help them understand what can they do with the evidence that they've received? how can they apply this to the laws that have been charged here? and there will be something and things of course, in the course of this case. but they haven't seen direct evidence of obviously, they didn't witness it themselves. but there are a few gaps that they will need to fill in potentially with inferences if they are going to agree with the prosecution's case. but if think about a metaphor, i mean, this is a figure of speech. she now take a metaphor, take it across 12 people with different lived experience it is, and apply it to 34 counts. you can imagine how something like this could cause confusion. but this is a common instruction that has given a juries across the country to help them understand the job that they have. but it is difficult to do this job when you don't have a written copy of the instructions and it wouldn't be surprising if they came back and asked for additional clarity on these instructions and polo, what

about the jury asking for clarification about county one of the 34 yeah, i think it's interesting that they only ask for clarification on count one, we don't know anything for sure, but you could infer if we want to go with the rain metaphor that perhaps they are walking through this chronologically. >> again, there are 34 counts. they extend across three different kinds of documents over the course of a year. but here the he instructed them that they must find that trump personally or in concert with another made or caused a false entry in business records that trump did so with the intent to defraud that included an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof. now want to go to the first point? it's saying trump personally or in concert with another made or cause a false entry. and this is something is speaking sources at the district attorney's office. this is something that they consistently emphasized a trump may not have ordered, right? michael cohen to submit a false invoice, but they believe that

he set this all in motion. they argue that under the law that he should be convicted of falsifying business records even if he didn't select the option from the drop-down menu for them, this language at the top is very important. and the second part of the instructions for account one, prosecutors have charged this as a felony again, these are misdemeanors, falsifying business records, but they're being charged as a felony because they argue that this was all done to help trump win in 2016, which could have violated. they say three different laws, so they don't need to prove those. they don't need to decide this other laws. they just need to agree that he did indeed mean to violate another loss. so this jury has a lot of work in front of them. >> yeah, they certainly do. and christian, i know you've been talking to your sources. how is trump feeling today i'm donald trump and his team are doing almost exactly what all of us are. >> a lot of speculating, trying to read the tea leaves, trying to figure out what exactly this jury is doing. and when we might potentially get a verdict now i am told that there as a

tv in the room, they're awaiting and he has been watching coverage. also getting clips of his surrogates defending him on television. not that surprising. something donald trump really likes to have there. but one other thing that i've been told is that donald trump has told people around him that he thinks it's possible he will be convicted, that he believes that it is going to be ian unfair trial. obviously, we know something donald trump says a lot because of the jury makeup. now i do want to point to one thing which is a recent poll that just came out about how voters feel about the possibility of donald trump being killed convicted, or not. now this is just people who are trump voters. only. but this is what it says. it says, if trump is found guilty, are fewer or less likely to vote for him, that scenario that is 7% more likely to vote for trump, 24%. would it make a difference? 68%? now donald trump's team is brushing off that 7%, saying they do not think that is accurate. most of the polling

that they have seen has donald trump up by a large lead. >> but i will say that 7% could be absolutely critical in an election with joe biden, particularly when both sides here believed the margin is going to be so small and, kristen this trial isn't the only thing the campaign is having to respond to today. >> there's some breaking news coming out this is a stunning allegation made by an early producer of the apprentice show by the name of bill pruitt. >> he alleges that donald trump, during the apprentice filming used the n word at a black finalist in the show are referring to a black finalist in the show by the name of kwame kwame jackson. now, this is something that had been rumored for a very long time, but we had never heard it directly from somebody who had worked on the show and you might be wondering why he was coming out. now when he says that he was under an nda, that would find him $5 million if he talked about what happened in the show and now that nda has

expired and that's why he's coming forward now again, i do want to also mention that this producer said there was a recording of this and that is something that we have heard before, but cnn has not heard this reporting and we do have pushback from the campaign sayings is absolutely false in a statement from the spokesperson, they said this is a completely fabricated and bs story that was already peddled in 2016 nobody took it seriously then and they won't now because it's fake news. he goes on and tries to link this to the democrats, to joe biden saying they planted the story. i do want to note that kwame jackson is going to be on with abby phillip later tonight for that interview after this news came out all right. >> kristin, thank you for that, paula. thank you as well. let's talk more now with former trump attorney tim parlatore. he represented trump in the classified documents case and this rain metaphor, i wonder what you think about it when you hear that is part of the instructions they wanted repeated the jury, they wanted to hear about this. what does that tell you? could that be

sine of a holdout you know, it's difficult to really know for sure, but this is the kinda thing that it suggests to me, especially in conjunction with some of the other notes that the jurors are trying to come to an agreement on certain things. >> and when they want this type of instruction oftentimes is because there's a disagreement amongst them as to how much of an inference is reasonable and what i would be looking for if i were in the courtroom is when the jury comes in and when the judges reading this specific instruction, how are they reacting? how many of them are nodding, how many of them are shaking their heads i've even had were during this exact type of instruction, you'll see one or two jurors that turn to another juror see so once where the judge says, okay is that sufficient and everybody kind of looks at one juror is like, is it because they all listen for it? >> it's just wanted exactly.

>> so i think that it definitely indicates that there is you know, some disagreement over whether an inference that the jury is trying to or at least some people on the jury is trying to make is reasonable or not. >> and then asking for clarity on count one. >> right. how does that fit into the picture as i recall, and i haven't had chance to go back a look at the indictment says instead, came out, but as i recall, the first couple of counts have to do with the checks that were signed, not by donald trump, but by eric and don junior checks from the trust came from the trust. >> so if you take those two together and of course, i'm guessing here, i have no idea it could be that they're trying to sit there and say, okay, is it reasonable to infer that he participated directed, or active in concert with if he didn't sign the checks. and so they may be looking at are we have taken the first four counts and knocking them out based on his lack of personal participation. >> does that give more credence

to the idea that we've heard from some legal experts that the jury, looking at all 34 counts, could decide he's guilty on some and not on others. >> i think it does. i mean, i think that for them to find him guilty of all 30 three 34 counts would be very difficult because when you look in, if you even if you take the weisselberg calculations at face value, the reality is that 130,000 of it was to repay for the stormy daniels 20 or 50 is for redfin and a portion of that they put right in there. it's far as phi and so for you to say that all 34 counts that are false at a minimum, some of those go to the portion that is for the fee. some of that goes to the portion where he plus it up for tax purposes, although he never then declared it on his taxes. so that's also money that he pocketed i can very much see a jury sitting there and saying, okay, 130,000 or 150,000 is the repayment. and so we'll maybe find him guilty

of checks up to that amount. >> let's we spoke a moment ago off camera about the gag order. >> yeah. >> donald trump, anytime that he's spoken outside the courtroom or even on social media about the case. he laments that he can't more vocally go after who he wants to go after? >> now that the witnesses have testified, you think it's time for the defense to revisit the gag order, and and push the judge. >> it perplexes me. >> the todd blanche hasn't made this motion yet because gag orders by their very nature, it's a perspective restriction for your free speech rights. there presumptively unconstitutional, except in very limited circumstances to protect the integrity of the proceedings. oftentimes they expire as soon as the jury is sworn in, because when you have an unswerving jury, you have a bunch of perspective jurors. you could take the jury pool, but once they're sworn in, you have those 12 people that the judge sits there and says, don't look at the news media. and so therefore, whatever public statements theoretically as long as they listen to the judge it doesn't take them hard, not for some it's hard

though, right? >> you're in luck there in new york city. this is what's happening right now. you can see how some of that information, if donald trump, whatever he says, could, could kind of get out there into the ether. i mean, what do you what do you think about that argument? she's it should that not be considered for a judge to keep a restriction on free speech in place based on a presumption of juror misconduct, essentially, because he's ordering the jurors not to look at a news media to restrict somebody's free speech on a presumption of misconduct by jurors, i think would be very difficult for him to really defend. he kept it in place during the course of the trial on the theory that talking about witnesses before they testify could have an effect on the witnesses of intimidating them now, all the witnesses have testified, and so he can't really say that it's for that purpose either. so i think it todd blanche went in there yeah. right now. you could just call the judge says, hey, judge, can we have a quick here and i'd like to make an oral application and i think

the judge would be hard pressed not to vacate it right now. the only conceivable reason i could see is if he says, well, there might be a hung jury, and so i want to protect the next jury pool for the retrial i know words. nobody wants to hear us it out loud. read still still perhaps weight on the road. we very much decision. >> tim parlatore. thank you so much. we appreciate your insight into hadn't this hour on cnn news central, the faa has just responded to boeing's safety plan. these are changes that the aircraft manufacturer says it's making after a series of in-flight mishaps plus a cnn exclusive details about how the us had to negotiate with haitian gang leaders to retrieve read the bodies of two american missionaries, killed. and that nation in one of the most active tornado seasons. >> you can't control what kinds of interventions can we design go inside the store the premiere of violent earth with

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it takes on all those aspects. and we're just going to monitor the implementation to make sure it's effective. >> here's what happens now for boeing. there'll be weekly meetings with the boeing with boeing. and the faa also bone faa inspectors will remain on-site at boeing and some of its suppliers, faa chief mike whitaker says he will be having quarterly meetings with the ceo of boeing going forward. >> the next one will happen in september. >> borse brown paper 19, asking the tough questions. thanks, pete. now a cnn exclusive, a source telling us the bodies of the american missionary couple killed by a gang in haiti last week are on their way back to the united states, but only after an urgent operation that involved negotiations between us officials and multiple wanted gang leaders. >> let's go now to cnn's david cole over david, you recently returned from haiti and while you were there, you met with the gang leader at the center of these talks and we've

learned that just in the past 24 to 48 hours, brianna and boris, my colleague, kaitlyn, who and i have been making calls to sources on the ground and we learned that that gang leader that you mentioned vitel'homme, innocent is one of the individuals who was on a conference call involving several different gang leaders, as well as haitian officials, as well as us officials have likely media aires. >> and so this played out so as to coordinate their recovery of those bodies now, you have to put that into context. we're talking about a city port-au-prince and it's really basically gang-controlled. more than 80% of that capital is controlled by gangs. that's the un estimate in a country that has just been ravaged by violence. so to have this kind of coordination, again, likely through intermediaries that the us was able well to then say, look, we need to get to those bodies and we want to recover them. the issue is they had an ambulance service that was hired to go and retrieve davy and natalie lloyd's bodies however, that ambulance was

blocked by members of one gang. and so after this phone call, according to beat the luminous and who told us direct ecoli that he was quote, following the call, i did everything possible to communicate with the people in the control of that area to then say, those are my body's that's what innocent apparently said on this call. and i want them in my possession, meaning allowed an ambulance to then go through that other gangs? checkpoint and get to those bodies without incident. that says a lot. i mean, this is incredible to think of that kind of coordination in the midst of such chaos and violence right now. but that's exactly what led to those bodies then getting back to us custody. and as we've learned just a short time ago, landed in miami on what was the first amendment? hurricane airlines flight in an out in the past three months. so that is really the headline that has been varied in overshadowed and all of this is that us airlines are now flying back into port-au-prince. but again, the big part of that is that outbound leg carrying the

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775, 383882, or visit home serve.com. i'm pete mundane at reagan national airport. this is cnn jurors are now deepen to de, to of deliberations, any trump hush money trial earlier, they asked to rehear parts of the jury instructions, starting with a metaphor about rain that was used by judge juan merchan judge, rather, john e. >> jones, a former federal judge in the former chief judge for the us middle district court of pennsylvania is with us. he's also the president of dickinson college. judge. thanks so much for being with us. so thank you. >> of course. let's talk about this rain metaphor. it can really be boiled down to using common sense and inferring that just because you don't see rain doesn't mean it didn't rain because you can use context clues to determine that there was rain. what do you think

jurors should gather from this metaphor? >> well let me tell you where i think it's going to boris and this is a sort of semi educated guess based on the questions i think paula reid said this very accurately short while ago. >> i there they're looking at that first meeting that took place quite obviously in 2015 the one where pecker testified that he said, i'll be your eyes and ears for the campaign. >> and they're trying to figure out, did donald trump at that time launch or set in motion using the words of paula use there are quite accurate this, this scheme because the two competing narratives basically are from the defense's standpoint, nothing to see here. we pay people off hush money is the coordinate of the realm that's what we do or was this a scheme that started in a

to the campaign? now, we know that the former president doesn't leave a paper trail right so they need to have inferences. and that's why they're zeroing in on that particular instruction. can we infer from other facts that are shown that in this case that the former president had a hand in that scheme? as it went forward, that's the decision that they're trying to make. i think they factored out a lot of the things that frankly, council spent quite a bit of time on, for example, i don't think they're toiling over stormy daniel's nor are they toiling over perhaps the fact that these are, these were not legal fees or whirling legal fees. i think they've figured that out there looking to see how culpable is the former president and can they have a through line that gets this to the point where they start to make those those check payments. >> yeah, judge. as i'm watching, the time goes by, were roughly about 20 minutes away from deliberation going

ten hours. do you read anything into how long the jury deliberates? because a reporting indicates that the trump team is confident that the longer deliberation goes on, the better the outcome is going to be for trump. >> i think that's kind of nonsense. you can't infer at this juncture, a given the complexity of the case and the duration of the case, what ten hours means, that's that's just a foolish exercise to try to go through. i don't blame him for saying that maybe they want to keep the troops happy in the former president happy. i don't, i don't think it indicates anything other than this is a hard working jury and they're they're focused on the task at hand. so i think if we get to the end of the day tomorrow, boars and they haven't reached a verdict, then the balance could shift and it may be that your working towards something like a hung jury, but i don't think that

there's anything to that at this point. they're just trying to sift through the evidence and do it in a deliberative fashion. >> sure. so moments ago, judge, we spoke to a former trump attorney, tim parlatore, and he relayed the idea that it's time for the defense to re-examine the gag order and to push for the gag order to be lifted, something that donald trump is wanted. now for just about as long as it's been imposed on him the argument is essentially that the jury has been selected, so there's no really tainting the jury pool and the witnesses have already testified, so there's no witness intimidation. would you agree would you think that judge merchan might be open to reexamining the gag order boris, i'm going to call it like the former judge that i am tim has a great attorney i respected very much. i heard him say that, you know, if if they asked a judge merchan to reconvene court while the jury was deliberating, saying, by

the way, we want you to lift the gag order. he would look at them and say, are you kidding me while, the jury is deliberating, there's no way i'm going to touch that. i mean, that's just nothing that he wants to touch it. this point they'd get their heads handed to him by mershid if they attempted to do that, i just i i i don't i think that'll let that alone. >> judge. john e. jones, the third. thank you so much for being with us, sir always a pleasure, bores. >> thank you. of course. >> coming up, reports revealed disturbing messages between members of mississippi is notorious goon squad and officers who are still serving the community what the sheriff says he's doing about it when we come back and check we hear nothing a spatial settled accidents, usually not one thing. it's a series of events is that part of the wing coming apart? >> space shuttle columbia, the final flight. now streaming on max did, you know taking xyz

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his department had no oversight on these text messages, but as you look at this report and see what some of the things that have been alleged here are the officers were trading pictures of dead bodies we're discussing the interactions with people, even asking, hey, did you taste the person in the face of one of the streams even talks about tasing someone in the and then it goes on from there, even talking about taking pictures of someone they arrested and see if they could get naked pictures of a woman. but beyond that, we know that in 2019 the year case the department will came under scrutiny after the goon squad was involved in several shootings. and at some 0.1 of the members even said, can we get points? how many points can we get for shootout? and someone responded depends if they die or not. so what you see here is whether or not this is a corrosive effort inside that sheriff's department or was this this the goon squad going back and forth. now there are some members who are still a part of the sheriff's department. the sheriff's department has asked the york

times for part of this tech stream because they want to get down to the bottom of what actually was being communicated here. but you understand after the two men who were beaten and tortured for several hours, you can understand why the community doesn't always believe what's coming out of the sheriff's department. now, we do have some statements that were made updates. attorney was one of the deputies who was arrested, actually released the statement, the explanation by some that they were just joking about torturing people and what they were thought was a secret. what's at texts ring hollow given the multiple incidence of torture that have been documented and then the next statement comes from alicia bass. he's the lead attorney for jenkins and parker, the two men were tortured. here's the latest revelations regarding the rankin county, mississippi is goon squad text messages are not surprising at all, guys. this is also a ton of effort by many people, including the end of lacp to have the share for move, the sheriff's department for its part says, look, they've done all they could to clean up what's going on inside that department, especially after all this came to light. but at the same time,

they said they were unaware of these text messages now to put this in perspective, we do know the night of this torture incident that it was coordinated on what it's at they actually came up with the time they went to that house, they torture the men. they tried to sexually assault them, even after this was all said and done, they urinated in the corner of the closet. so all this goes along with the behavior that we've been talking about for over a year, the federal government is still talking to community members to try to discover everything that has gone on in rankin county over the last few years. the story doesn't stop. people in the community want to know how far this goes. and have any of the officers are still the force are still involved, guys. yeah. and if they didn't know about these text messages, how serious if they really been about looking inward and reforming the department? ryan young. thank you so much. you've covered this all along the way and we appreciate it. now to some of the other headlines that we're watching this our catherine, the princess of wales, is going to miss a military ceremony that she normally attends as she's undergoing cancer treatment. still not clear if she will

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tourism, but as a research mission. and larry's with this now to talk about it i mean, larry, let's start with the obvious here. a lot of people hearing what you're doing are going to say it was it feels like it was just yesterday that someone tried this and it ended into asked are what makes your plan different yeah. >> thanks for having in yes. understandable so research, an exploration an important fact. if you think about it 71% of the earth is in water so we think it's an important and worthwhile endeavor to explore that. and yes we believe that we can do this very safely. >> larry, i'm wondering what this research mission is hoping to find because a lot of folks have been down to this site

before. so what's different about your journey? >> so it's not only at the titanic, but and we're in the early stages of developing that. but there's hyperthermophile events and sea mounts, both of which are of value to explore that are both at the site of the titanic in that area larry, tell us about the submersible. >> what's it? what's it made out of so it's a. >> great question and i think here's an important fact for your viewers. if you think about submersibles in the submersible industry over the last 50 years if you have a submersible that has been dn v. certified, that's an organization in the netherlands. and the last 50

years there's never been an accident and keep in mind that's thousands of divs with lots of submersibles unfortunately with the tragedy with ocean gate, there's was not certified and then our opinion never would have been certified because of the materials that design the technology and the equipment what would you say to those who feel like the site of the titanic is a grave site. >> but the final resting place of its victims and also the five people that were killed in the ocean gate disaster that there are folks that believe this is a site that shouldn't be disturbed. what's your response to them? >> yeah, i hear that. and that's why the purpose of our mission is not just to go to the titanic for one dot. our purposes to do multiple research divs and the sub that

we're building. and by the way, that's a joint venture between myself and the leading submarine builder you know, in the world, triton submarines, which is headquartered right here in the united states, been around for 18 years, is to do multiple research, drives. win that acrylic call that will provide 320 degrees of viewing by the light. typically, if you're going to go really, really deep and i've done that multiple times. you're looking through a portal that's about five inches in circumference. so what we're going to be able to see and what we're going to be able to film at those depths is unprecedented. >> and you, of course, you've had other adventures. we see that there's a frame picture behind you, a note from someone saying, come back to earth pops. we should mention in and explain what that is. you visited the international space station. you've actually gone diving into the mariana trench, where where would this rank to you with those achievements?

and obviously we it can't separate it from the tragedy of about a year ago. how would this factor into those other things yeah. >> so fair question, briana, but i don't really look at it that way or i'm trying to compare one day other. >> yes. i was fortunate to do three research daibes and the mrna trench, 36,000 feet, 35,000, 25,000 by the way, supported by a team of seven scientists i also had the good fortune to, spend 17 days at the international space station. extraordinary experience by the way, in the background of that was ten months of intensive training. we were private astronauts. so i think you have to look at each of them. but we will not do any of these endeavors if they're not worthwhile if we can't do them safely and successfully all right, larry, well, we'll see how this all

shakes out. >> good luck, of course, on this endeavor larry connor, thanks for your time. >> thanks for having me the jury in the donald trump hush money trial has been deliberating now for just over ten hours after a busy morning of rehearing testimony and also rehearing dozens of pages of instructions from the judge. >> yeah. trump's fate is now in the jury's hands. more of our coverage after a quick break this making you uncomfortable good when you've got type two diabetes like me, you have up to four times greater risk of stroke, heart attack, or worse death. even when meeting your a1c goal. discomfort can help you act i'm not trying to scare you. i'm empowering you to get real with your health care provider talk to them about lowering your risk of stroke, heart attack, or death

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