or into some sort of an institution once he's there and they have that setup, it'll be pretty easy for them because we've been in a controlled space in terms of the hit security though, i mean, secret service in the courtroom. he had like two secret service agents with him. it was court officers in a prison setting. i guess he would mean it would be the prison officers, but also a few secret service or, you know, i find it almost impossible to believe that he'll ever be in a traditional prison and it's a traditional prison environment. >> he may be sentenced to some sort of a state controlled facility that doesn't have other prisoners in it no matter where he ends up. >> if it's an a state facility, there'll be some combination of prison officials. and of course, he would surveyor we gave i think appreciate it. the news continues more of scenes, especially coverage of historic verdict in the trump hush money trial. right now tonight the.

45th president of the united states, as a convicted felon, and donald trump's lead attorney, todd blanche well, join me live. >> i'm kaitlin collins, and this is the source it's one of those where were you kind of moments in american history when the verdict came down on donald trump today. gil we'll t guilty, guilty reverberating 34 times over as the former president's that stone-faced and that new york courtroom about are how you feel about this case or about donald trump, the man. >> it's an extraordinary stain on the office of the presidency and on donald trump's already tarnished legacy he'll be back in that very same courtroom for sentencing in this case on july 11. >> that happens just days before he takes the stage for the republican national convention accepting his

party's nomination for president but this time as a convicted felon, we saw donald trump earlier raising his fist and defiance it's to the crowd that had gathered outside trump tower like this evening. i lead source tonight is the lead attorney who represented donald trump in this case, todd blanche and todd, thank you for being here. what do you think the jury found donald trump guilty on all counts? >> i mean, i don't know. i mean, it's a good question. i think understanding why a jury reaches a verdict is something that every single trial lawyer in the country would love to be able to answer honestly. look, a lot goes into a jury verdict that doesn't even, include what happened at the trial. the decisions that are made before the trial, the decisions that the court makes, and that the parties decide about witnesses a call, what evidence to put in. so i think that at the end of the day it remains true that if the word of michael cohen

was not accepted at all, then you could not have convicted president trump. and the jury convicted so at the end of the day, they they looked past what we thought were were fatal flaws and mr. cohen's story and his past and they reached a guilty verdict. >> right. but it wasn't just the word of michael cohen. i mean, there was other evidence in this case, the documents they wanted to rehear, david pecker's testimony. i mean, they took all of that into consideration. sure. i know a look. of course, the jury will take everything into consideration and they were very serious. look, this jury showed up on time every day. they were very focused on the evidence and on the on the testimony that came in, there was a lot. but look at the end of the day they it was still like case in our view as we've been saying, for a year that that relied on testimony of conversations and interactions that took place 8789 years ago.

and certainly documents what we're part of the case, but the documents that the 34 counts were documents that that really had very little connection to president trump. but for the checks that the few checks city sign, look, we we i very much relieved that the jury the jury should have found president trump not guilty. i mean, very in my soul, i believe that and i believe it for a year. i mean, i left i left my job to do what i did the past six weeks and my conviction around what happened today and what i believe the facts show it remains the same. >> i know you you disagree with the outcome, obviously and do you accept that he did have his de and cord and it was a jury of his peers that made this decision will no. >> not at all. >> why not? no. i mean, look, i think and this is nothing that we haven't said repeatedly. we were we were indicted for conduct that happened in in

2015, 16, 17, in a jurisdiction that that it was very hard for us to get a fair trial. kayla, i mean, i know the district attorney has said repeatedly said it today. this is a bread and butter case. we do this all the time. >> that is not true. >> it just not true. it may be that they bring these types of charges regularly, business records charges, but you cannot find another case in the manhattan district attorney's in the history of that office, where they did what they did here, which is charged charge somebody for conduct that was seven, 8-years-old somebody's personal records, right? not not corporate records as personal records. so this is not i don't think i think it's naive to say that this is like any other case that we do what we did in this case is what we do all the time. no, maybe it's okay. i mean, they think it's okay. they did it. >> but i think the response to that, would? be well it's also not every day that someone running for president reimburses his attorney who paid off a woman to keep her

silent. and when you when you say about getting a fair jury, this is where donald trump mean, you know, new york, well, this is where donald trump chose to have his businesses and spent decades of his life until just recently. i mean, that's why the case was here. i think some people would say, well, that's ridiculous that a jury couldn't put their beliefs have sayyed, you just talked about how hard they worked in this case. don't you think that they put their political beliefs are biases or stereotypes aside to make a fair decision here, i don't know what they did or didn't do, but listen, kaitlan, it matters, right? like when 100 we did it in groups of about 100, when we picked that jury, half the jury just walked out when invited to by the judge, if they couldn't be fair and impartial so imagine if you're if you're if you're standing before a group of your peers, right? that's what a jury system is supposed to be. so you're saying for a group of your peers and half of them walk out before a single question is asked just because they have opinion of you that is so strong that can't be fair

and impartial. >> 12 to be fair did not well, they did not, of course, but but that's that's not really the point. >> the point isn't that 50 stayed? the point is that it's telling how many just walked out and then also the fact that president trump did business in new york. that's not the law. the law doesn't say, well tough luck if that's where you do business, then that's where you're going to be built his business here and he resided here and i guess if you think you know, if you talked about the testimony and when this happened, well, why didn't the cross-examination of these witnesses or what you put forward, your defense why didn't that work? why did it still lead to this outcome well, that's a great question. >> if you know the answer to that told me, i mean, look, i don't i think that at the end of the day, i do think it comes to something that we talk about a lot of times in our profession where there's a bias that you have that you can't get past. i mean, you say that this this is where he built his business. that's true. every single personal that jury new donald trump, either as president, as

candidate, from the apprentice. and so i don't accept that this was a fair this was a fair place to try that what you're going what's your main argument? argument going to be? and your appeal? >> look, i think we have i think there were a lot that is certainly an argument. i think the timing of this trial and was really unfair to president trump. there's so much publicity around the witnesses and around the leading up to the trial that it our system of justice isn't supposed to be a system where every person that walks in the courtroom knows about the case. i mean, it sounds it sounds like it's one of those cases where you can't avoid it. i mean, no matter what jurisdiction he's trying to say trump the law doesn't say. but if you can't avoid it, tough luck, right? that's not what the law says. the losses that a person is entitled to a fair trial in front of a jury of their peers. and we just think that because of everything around the leadup this trial, it made it very difficult for the jury to to

evaluate the evidence kind of independent of what they knew coming in. and we knew that and that's not something that we haven't we've been screaming from the rooftops that's what you said. >> a few of you arguments on the appeal. when do you plan to file your appeal? >> well, there's a look. >> this is one step in the process, right? >> so we have motion let's do a couple of weeks in front of judge more, shawn, which we're going to vigorously fight and restate a lot of what i'm saying to you tonight and other things that happened are in the trial that we think just made the trial unfair and including the testimony of ms daniels. if that is not successful, then as soon as we can appeal, we will in the process in new york because there's a sentencing and then and then and then we appeal from their district attorney bragg tonight, did not directly say whether or not they are going to seek jail time for donald trump. do you expect that he will i have no idea. >> look, there's there's a system in place that were you rely on precedent and somebody like president trump should

never, never face a jail sentence based on this conduct. and it would just kind of confirm what we've been saying all along. and a lot of people say that we're wrong and that we're we're missing we're missing key pieces. but if, if, if other 77-year-old first-time offenders would never be sent to prison for this conduct. >> judge marsha, and we'll make that decision. >> that's right. do you do you think the judge was fair throughout this case i think that there were there were times when we very much disagreed with the decisions judgment shawn made. i think there were times when when when we certainly appreciated that he was making decisions, but guang both sides and make decisions based upon that. but at the end of the de there were key decisions made before the trial started in during the trial that i don't want to use a fair or unfair, but that we think we're not consistent with the law. >> but you can't say he was

fair or not well, within your favorite, sometimes you wrote again to you, so yeah, but no, i think i think just saying whether someone's fair or unfair is not really the question. the question is whether decisions that he made before the trial in advance of the trial with the ominous motions with the motions in limine a. and then during the trial were they right on the law? it was he right. doing that and that's where think we have we have disagreements. we think there are a lot that we're not why did donald trump not ultimately take the stand here well, that's a very personal question to him and to me, honestly. and it's a very difficult question. of course, he wanted to testify and i don't say that because that's what he has said. he wanted to get a story out. i think the judge had made some decisions before the trial or the de of the trial started about what would be allowed to be asked of him by prosecutors if he took the stand and some of those questions were really complicated to answer because there's still appeals going

on. and there's a lot there's a lot of decision points that go into whether somebody testifies ultimately, it's his decision and he listened to us and he relied on our council and he reached the decision that he that he thought was right, which i very much agreed with. >> so that means your council was for him to not take the stand. >> i'm not going to tell you what my counsel well, he said he relied on council and he went with that decision and he didn't take the stand and ultimately, it was his it was his decision. and i'd never say and i think colleagues and folks are your volunteer hopefully agree with me. i'd never say to somebody, don't take the stand, right? that's their decision and that's a decision that they have to make. >> but but i want them to have they'll want to know what will happen on the good and the bad if they do take the stand. so no regrets on him not taking the stand. >> look, the verdict came down a couple of hours ago. i don't know if i have any regrets about anything yet. i'm still i'm still thinking things through and i think so or so is he and so everybody else around him. but at this point, i

don't think that we there was a conviction because he did not take the stand. >> when he was leaving one thing he brought up, the witnesses who were not called and he was saying that there could have been witnesses that would have helped make the case. >> we never saw keith schiller, allen weisselberg, some key figures here who got brought up a lot why didn't the defense call any of these witnesses? well, because we happen to live in america and we don't have the burden of proof. and so there's not that's not the point that should, that's a question that is a loaded question that should not be asked to a defense attorney or defendant. the question that we ask the jury and they ultimately obviously it got passed is why why the prosecution didn't call those witnesses, right? you as a defense for you don't go into a case saying i'm going to fill the holes of the prosecution. right. and keith schiller and some of the other witnesses that were not ultimately called in our view should have been called should have been called by the prosecution. and we ask the

jury to take a hard look at that i don't know whether they did or not, but they convicted todd blanche. >> i have three more questions for you. if you'll stick around, we're going to take a quick commercial break and we'll be right back much more with donald trump's lead attorney in a moment. >> assignments are going off the tornado here you cannot out swim this you cannot outrun it really terrifying experience. >> it is a style nightmares you could hear it and feel it my eyes and my throat. we're burning i'm thinking i'm going to die and i thought that was it along with earth, with we have schreiber premiere sunday at nine on cnn are the facts choosy here is shopping for a used car, but she doesn't know that nearly half of them have been in an accident. >> and interesting, the car facts.com shows how accidents

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verdict was going to be reached. the judge himself seem to think that he went to go get the jury and then he came back with a verdict note and hand i mean, you in trump had been sitting there talking, laughing and then obviously italy realized a verdict was coming. you were obviously surprised yes. >> i'm very surprised, but that's what juries do you know, everybody that's been talking for the past two days about what they thought maybe a note met or what a jury was thinking, or how long they would deliberate you never know you never know. >> and i think there was as the day there have been no notes really all day and as 430 came, we were going to just go home and start again tomorrow and and the jury sent a note, said they reach a verdict, so it was surprising, but it wasn't surprising like oh my gosh, i'm shocked that we had been prepared but we're here for guilty verdict trump's him. >> do we telling people from what i heard, he thought it was going to be a hung jury we were prepared for a guilty verdict. >> i mean, i don't know what people he was present. >> trump was saying that too,

but but of course, are in our view, we were we were fighting to win the case of course, but a hung jury would have been as close to a win as as we could have gotten, but we were prepared for a conviction. i think that was expected yeah i think a lot of people are curious because we hear from a lot of former trope attorneys what it's like to be a trump attorney. >> how has it been for the last seven weeks? >> listen, i hear former trump attorney is talk on tv all the time as well. i have found the last seven weeks to be in. i don't want to use cliches, but it's been everything that i would expect and want out of out of a client, out of someone who is really putting their life in your hands. it's been challenging, it's been rewarding. president trump this there's a persona that people have about him that is completely wrong. there's persona that people have that is right in some ways to it was the hardest in many people's

lives. the hardest thing you do is go through a criminal trial and he was i was impressed, especially today. the way that he carried himself and handled himself. well, there were moments and i was in the court multiple times where you would see you and trump are often sitting next to each other or the other attorneys, emil bove and susan nicholas, but trump, what hit you on the arm? tap you on the arm, or judy, their object are clearly was writing your notes and saying, i mean, who ultimately was in charge of the defense strategy here, was it you or was it donald trump it was both of us. >> if there's a lawyer that comes in and says that they're in charge of their defense strategy. >> they're not doing a service that our client, every decision that we made, we made as a team and not just present trump on myself, but the whole team so again, every, every defendant, everybody who has her life on the line in history, will tap their lawyer every once while and say, hey, what about this? what about that? i've never we had we not only did we get

along during the trial, but we were on the same page about strategy and about what we should be doing and not doing. and it was the one thing that i left with today is he in impressed, hopefully everybody that's that got to see what happened today. the way that he handled himself in the courtroom hearing that, you know, 34 counts of guilty. the way that he handled themselves really throughout the entire trial hello, somebody who is the republican nominee, not campaigning, sitting in court all day. and i was right there with him the whole time and i have no complaints about it, but it did it make your job harder and more difficult when he was constantly going after the judge calling him corrupt saying that he was so so biased, he couldn't breathe here going after the witnesses in this case until the gag order he violated the gag order at least ten times here in this case, did it that make your job harder? >> and i don't think it made my job harder. it's something

that we had to deal with during the trial as a team and understanding that there's a message that he needed to get to the people, to the american people, that people who are deciding who to vote for in november. and part of that decision has to be he is being judged for this trial and that's a fact. and so when when folks get upset that he response to what he sees happening and the response forcefully, that's because he being he's being judged by everybody is being judged on television by voters in newspapers. and so the fact that he says this is my opinion, this is my view is not something that i looked at his making my job harder. i accepted that as being part of this job and that is what he will continue to do. like, i don't think he's going to stop tomorrow morning. he has to explain to the american people why this whole year in front of them and hattan da in this case, was completely unjust. >> but can you do that without attacking stormy daniels and michael cohen? i mean, there was one point where the judge had to use incredibly strong

language with you because trump audibly used an expletive when stormy daniels was on the witness stand when you say can you do that? >> you mean can you respond? >> when is it for him to have an outburst and cord follow witnesses on this? >> i don't think an app versus the right. what describe what happened. he as you know, from being in the courtroom, it's the courtroom has very bizarre acoustics and there's times when you can't hear a thing and there's times when voice carries and i don't it was absolutely not an out the witness heard it stormy daniels heard it. i have no idea if that's true or attorney told told us that. okay. well okay. well, i that's the first that i'm hearing that and i i don't know that that is true or false, but it was not an outburst. it was a reaction to, again, it's easy to sit here and throw stones and say, well, how come he said this, how can we said that? why don't you go on trial? well, for something that happened. i don't mean this you i'm saying rhetorically you for something that happened nearly 20 years

ago when when you hear saying somebody is saying something that you believe is demonstrably false and you can't do anything about it. and and, you know, there's a reaction that folks agree with or disagree with president trump in my view, behaved in a way that i thought was exemplary for a defendant facing what he was facing and that environment and that courtroom for the past five weeks, i think it was inappropriate when he caught he came out and would rail against judge for sean and go after his daughter in other witnesses in this case. >> he did not go off for the judge's daughter after he was gagged at all and by the way by the way, the defense went after the judge's daughter in public filings. >> so you want me to say that it was inappropriate for the president trump to do something that i believed the law required to be brought to the judge's attention will attacking her on his obviously, he a massive following, making a point a court filing is different than making a point on truth, social why i mean i

guess i question that so the idea is that as as as as a attorney, i'm allowed to make motions, put arguments in front of the judge. >> but if my clients makes those same arguments to the people who are going to decide whether he should be president of the united states somehow that's, it's okay for me to do it, but he can't i don't i don't venues. i think i think there's surely ways to make your argument and doing it on truth, social, attacking a private citizen but the papers, right, that's the problem. >> right? so it's easy to say. okay. defense attorney, you can file those papers and there's an attorney. >> i mean, you've read those filings. >> we read those filings, obviously, we will talk about those filings, but but on this overall, i mean, you are relatively new to the trump team. your life has changed since you become a trump attorney, you've moved to florida. you're now registered as a republican, used to work at a big firm here. you've registered as a democrat do you expect to continue to represent trump in this case and in the federal cases? >> yes. >> absolute listen. i

absolutely. i'm going to florida next week and we have a motion to compel hearing. and the case at the end of june, and we have a lot of work to do. we haven't been working on that case the past six weeks, and we're going to start fighting every day in florida. we have briefing in this case. we have a sentencing in this case, and then we'll have an appeal i have putting aside changing my life. i think president trump has put faith in me and my team, and there's a lot of great people i work with. and as long as he has that faith, we're going to keep on doing what we're doing one thing that the trump attorneys that we sometimes hear is whether or not they were paid after it's always it's always a point of contention, obviously, we were michael cohen talked about it. has that ever been an issue for you since you've represented him? >> know and i don't know what trump attorneys i mean, i know that it's a fun folklore to talk about that trump's attorneys don't get paid and whatnot, but i don't i mean, i don't know who that applies to, but i i've of course of

course, president trump pays his bills and i am getting paid. and if my mom's listening, i'm getting paid but that's not i'm not alone. i'm not alone in that. i don't it's not like i'm getting paid in the other here there's a lot of cases. he has a lot of lawyers, right now and i don't know if you're hearing something different, but the lawyers are getting paid todd blanche, quite a day for you. >> thank you for coming into the sunset tonight. thank you. appreciate your time up. next, we'll get perspective from someone else who was inside that courtroom today. i'll also witnessing history along with the rest suppose will also get stormy daniel's is attorney here, onset about this historic conviction and her reaction i did my job. >> we did our job the only voice that matters is the voice of the jury and the jury has spoken russia is we're trying to spy on we were spying on them i'm sorry, frank this is

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order. bring your own team together with custom gear, get started today. i'd customers.com i'm alex margaret in washington and this is cnn tonight for president donald trump is right where you see here back at trump tower, just hours after he became a convicted felon today he is spending the night there before he holds a press conference tomorrow morning, he responded at least in part earlier as he was leaving court and learn that he is now a convicted felon on all 34 counts, a source said he was in good spirits and ready to fight as he left court that you could also see a bit of shock on his face at the idea that he is now the first former us president ever be a convicted felon by legal panel is here with us tonight, and i just want to start with everyone's first reactions to just we've been covering this case day in and day out. all of you have been on this show talking about this, judge. what did you make of what the jury decided today? >> well, first of all, i was shocked. it was a very asked

verdict in my experience, i would have thought they would put more time into the deliberations. i expected a verdict on friday. that's sort of a typical day because jurors don't come back on monday, don't want to come back on monday but they had asked for so little. they had just two sections of read back and a little bit of charge and then they were unanimous. so i was surprised but, you know, i think strength of the summations made a huge difference here. i think that people summation was so organized, so chronological, so convincing. and it gave them the roadmap they needed. and with all respect to your prior guessed, it was a little bit disconnected, a little bit all over the place. he didn't give them a story to hold onto. i think that's a reason judge dress. i mean, you have been inside that courtroom you a special seat reserved for you in the courtroom every day. you were in there today as that verdict was read, what was it like to be in the room? >> yeah. well, i agree with judge qinling. i was shocked that they came in today, was even more shocking because we all had a waiting here we are

in the jury room and then we were told to come in around just around 415 and we thought we were going to be getting excused and judge merchan made some kind of a comment to the effect that the jury is going to bring the jury in and i'm going to leave and then i thought we were going to just do some scheduling for tomorrow. >> and then judge, machine wasn't there for about 15 minutes and everybody's like look at each other like what's up with this i would say again, 99%, no no verdict of verdict on thursday and then judgment shy came with the kind of a strange look on his face and he said, i have a note market exhibit called exhibit number seven the jury has reached a verdict. >> you i mean, the air was sucked out of that room. i mean, it was a dramatic moment and they just want 30 minutes more so they can work up the thick sheets and then it was like, wow, what does raise the question, why did they need 30 minutes? it was just x. i mean, you heard todd blanche was saying there they were also

shocked by succulents, 34 counts. they want to get the sheets right? this was a meticulous you're one of the things i did today during the read and the thing the other thing about today that made me kinda lean towards friday. i was really impressed. i don't know if judge shem and how many times when you did trials did you see like on as soon as you put a jury into been to deliberate the first note that comes out is they want the instructions read back never because in fact because in federal court we send the jury instructions and exactly that's a great point during jury consultant, it speaks to they had they had questions about this that we gotta thought that meant they would have other questions on other aspects. know, they had a decision or for that a little bit surprised that came out today like everybody else, i thought was going to come out friday. but if you think about it, it does make sense. remember, they had seven days off to think about this case and really think it through and

maybe make up their minds and decide what questions they had. so that by the time they came back and heard the summations and deliberated, maybe they knew what they were gonna do already. so it really wasn't that much to have to go through in terms of 30 minutes, i'll just say these people spent a lot of time together. they might have just wanted to say their goodbyes to each other, exchange information, stuff like that. i don't know that it took 30 minutes to check a bunch of bonds, so they we're thanked for their service. but paul up what your next steps here you heard todd blanche say they're planning to follow. their appeal. the weight for the sentencing, it sounded like yeah, they have a few reasons why they're going to file hello boat, but what's next year? because it is six weeks away from the sentencing. yeah, he continues to be the former president continues to be a lawyer full employment act. >> todd said he's going to file additional motions before the judge, then they'll have sentencing, then they'll have this appeal and look, they've been planning for this appeal since the beginning. they've always had a strategy, death by 1,000 cuts rack up any mistake, any question, any she everything at the wall. see what sticks, but based on what we saw in court, based on the

verdict today, it is unlikely that they're going to succeed on those appeals, but he absolutely has the right to do it. >> do you agree that he's unlikely to know? no. i think there's a chance that there are real serious appellate issues here. >> remember, by the time it goes to appeal, it's not about facts, it's about the law. and there are some very interesting legal questions here that they can raise and should raise. so we'll see, i'm not calling a winter, but i'm saying there are serious appellate issues. >> what do you make of that, judge? >> look, from what i saw. i think there's a mountain of evidence that supported the conviction on each one of the counts let them appeal. there's always a chance up, frankly, i think judge machines ruling and his decisions. i think it's i think it's going to hold i don't disagree with you on the facts. the evidence was there, but there are legal issues here as to these three crimes i wonder or how how well the jurors understood those

legal issues especially because they didn't have the written instructions i wanted to respond to your comment, so they had six days off to think about this case that troubles me all six days. >> they didn't know the law that they would be taught and told and how they could think about it for six days without knowing the legal construct is troubling to me well, but i think they they thought about who they believed, who they didn't believe that piece together. the facts. i'm not saying their minds were completely made up. actually, do think their minds are made up. it's possible they left a little room there, but the legal instructions were very complicated just to how you're and even when they heard them again, i mean, come on. there's really no way i think that the juror is fully understood the legal judgment can had a tough counter there because he would he was given defendant trump now, convicted felon trump the day off for the friday for the graduation, there was memorial day. he didn't want to be in a position where he knew there was going to be very long summation chins that would be caught in the middle of it. so

i would frankly very supportive of the decision he made. the hands he was dealt i was to run from trump tomorrow, also more on this when he stinging new york tonight. and what what have we heard about their next steps? just in general, as todd was, blanche was saying there they do have other cases that are coming up none of them are happening before the election. i mean, there'll be focused on this. >> so the first question is, will they try to get that sentencing moves because it's just days before the convention on told that that's going to be something under discussion over the next few days. they're not sure because politically they believe there could be an advantage to going into the political convention with whatever sentence it is. be able to spin that narrative of martyrdom. so right now, that's under discussion. i think that is the first decision they need to make right now. do they try to get that sentencing pushed or do they like that day? he didn't have to post any bond as a result of this yeah. >> we'll see what all this means. paula reid, ronaldo's tubule judges, george grosso in shira scheindlin, great to have all of you over the last several weeks. so just want to say thank you to all of you. for your expertise, for your reporting. it's made our

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emotional. >> what was she emotional just happy or just stun what i would call it more empathy. and realization of the finality and just a combination of a lot of emotions flowing and i told her how proud i was that she was able to see this through and come up here and sit two days under examination and the federal state courthouse that was so obviously watched by the world and and we had a good talk, but she was really emotional. >> it must have been this whole process must have been a total whirlwind for her because when she was appeared, that was the first time she'd been in the same room. is donald trump's since i think 2007 that's correct. or something. >> that's correct to the next time you see and be testifying against him that's right into now, this verdict must be really remarkable and strange. yeah. >> it takes a lot of processing

she's so bright and she's a person with a lot of courage and really proud of the what she's done here from the standpoint of standing up for the truth now, i think she'd been fine with what the jury would have done it either way. she has great trust in the system and the fact that these jurors gave their time and listen to that evidence very attentively, as you know, that's to be commended and respected, but could have gone either way and she understood that she glad she testified. >> i think so. >> i mean, i you know, the fact that it would have been like a half-eaten sandwich of the story never came out. >> it was just accusations or whatever and the moral didn't really get to hear all of the evidence like this jury did so i think there's gotta be a sense of satisfaction from the standpoint you saw it through obviously, i just spoke to trump's lead attorney in this case. >> it's todd blanche about what's next what they made the verdict. this is what he said in part we have motions due in

a couple of weeks in front of judge more shawn, which we're going to vigorously fight and restate a lot of what i'm saying to you tonight and other things that happen are the trial that we think just made the trial unfair and including the testimony of ms daniels if that is not successful, then as soon as we can appeal, we will. he mentioned obviously, your client there. what did you make of what he said there and just overall, trump's reaction to the verdict well, you know, it was pretty standard. >> trump as he went out, your castigated everyone involved in the trial. so i can't imagine the appeal point with regard to stormy's testimony, it was straightforward. they had an opportunity to cross examiner. i think she held up well, i did find it interesting though, where he said that you couldn't get a fair trial because all the jurors knew trump i would think that that would give you the fairest of trials or better trial. the fact that they knew why would one automatically assume that it'd be biased against him

sometimes celebrity appeal works when you spoke with stormy daniel's earlier, did she say what she thought a fair sentencing would be in this week? >> never discussed that. >> and i think her reaction, knowing her the way i do is she would say there'd be the judge's call. he knows the law better than anyone and he knows the case better than anyone. and she would just say that that would be his decision. >> clark brewster. i mean, it's been fascinating to follow this. >> you did say it would be an early verdict, so i'll give you credit for that. thank you for joining us here, onset and for every single night that you've joined us also, we are now getting new reaction from ivanka trump for the first time. her response to her father's conviction today we'll tell you what you said after a quick break how, can you be sure you're getting the right deal? >> i have to talk to my bestie this one's like your last boyfriend. >> it's got for the right use car. just say show me the car facts value. you get the most

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eldest daughter, ivanka trump, who posted for the first time since her father was convicted, this picture of herself as a young girl, being held by her father with the caption, i love you dad i should note we saw a lot of donald trump's family at the courthouse, his son, eric trump, the only member has family who is there for this pivotal day today, but we have seen the other children there eric trump was obviously they're donald trump junior. >> tiffany trump as well. i should note to people we did not see in that courtroom, ivanka trump or the former first lady, melania trump? >> we have just learned cnn's kristen holmes is told by a source that melania trump and their son, baron are here in new york this evening. >> the two were already here actually, when the verdict was read earlier today, does not immediately clear when they arrived in the city republican lawmakers tonight, perhaps unsurprisingly, definitely unsurprisingly, are rallying to donald trump's sayyed after that guilty verdict, house speaker mike johnson called a shameful de, in american history and said that he is

competent. trump will win on appeal congresswoman elise stefanik called it a zombie case and alleged without evidence that the prosecutor was doing president biden's bidding congresswoman marjorie taylor greene posted an upside down american flag synonymous with trump's stop the steal movement as a longtime distress signal for more on all of this tonight. and the political reaction we have two top political minds here, cnn political commentators, jamal simmons and honor navarro i mean what's your reaction to this is someone who has paid attention to this for so long. >> and i like, what do you what was your response today when you saw that verdict? >> first of all, i have to tell you, i have to apologize to cnn to you to all of you because i have been proposing the coverage. i have thought nobody's paying attention to this but now i realize just how crucial the coverage that's been covered to cover gavel to gavel has been in order to lay the framework and the groundwork for this decision. but for that coverage, people

would be incomplete and utter shock even more so than we are today because of the no cameras in the courtroom, had there been cameras? i think everybody would understand what happened today. look, i think for me there was a level of shock, disbelief really, a lot of sobriety. first of all, because how many times have we seen donald trump not be held accountable? how many times throughout his life have we seen him get? way with things that mere mortals would not get away with this idea that he finally had to be accountable is just like perplexing that this could actually happen. i have such admiration for the judge for the jury. i mean, their lives are appended and in danger. their lives are at risk when we all know that. we all know those securities at risk. and they did what they had to do. and i i just i i'm i'm i feel a lot of things i feel i

feel concerned for the country. i feel concerned for the security of the city of the people but i also feel great pride in the legal system. and in particularly in these juries alvin bragg stormy daniels it, these are people who i think have been heroic. >> we saw president biden obviously, he commented linking to a donation place for him and for democrats. and he said he thought the only way to keep donald trump out of the oval office is that the ballot box that was his response? minutes after the verdict came out? >> yeah. i talked to somebody the campaign today, ask them how they were feeling about this. they said, look, we're focused. it's a reminder of the stakes of this moment but i know as i think about this, it's clear the justice system had an honorable day. our country had a sad day though this is a day, a president of the united states, a former president united states has

been convicted. he may be, it's probably going to be the nominee of the republican party as a convicted felon that's just not something that any of us ever thought would happen. and is donald trump who has drug, are political system to an even further depth he refused to divest himself of his business interests and the business or the oval office while he was president of the united states, as far as we know, he had his nomination convention on the south health law and the white house was clearly with something we'd never thought that we would see and now we're seeing him into the name calling all the other things. now we're seeing him take us to a legal low that we never thought it was from a present even when bill clinton, who somebody who i worked for the kid, even when bill clinton got caught and got in trouble, they found a way to keep them from getting to this moment. donald trump trump refused and is still refusing because not only did he do, this is about a hush-money trial from 2016. we still have charges pending against him for china's subvert the 2020 election. so there's just a lot here for us to be somber about as well. we also a

honore a system that we saw work today. >> well, we're seeing republicans weigh in. i mean, i just it's all senator advance earlier tonight. it we've seen senator rubio, the congress people that i that i quoted earlier. larry hogan, a longtime republican, obviously his father also posted earlier about this verdict, i believe saying he disagreed with that, but saying that americans should respect and the verdict and the legal process had this lengthy, thoughtful response that you can see there. that's trump's one of trump's campaign managers there, chris lacivita, who's just quoted him and said you just ended your campaign. he's running for senate in maryland well, i think the trump campaign has much bigger fish to fry right now and many bigger problems to address then what larry hogan maybe tweeting or not. i think it's irresponsible for elected members of the republican party. the law and order party, supposedly, that's how they call themselves to be making these accusations and allegations about this legal

proceeding without any basis of fact to be saying that this was joe biden know this was a state case. they he was indicted by a grand jury of regular new yorkers. he was convicted by a jury regular new yorkers, joe biden cannot pardon him because this is a state case. these are all things that i've heard from trump's supporters and read from trump's supporters today. and that's the drumbeat they're going to be playing. this was all joe biden. there's a political persecution. no, he is there because it was not a persecution. it was a prosecution for criminal activity caitlin there's one name i haven't been able to shake all day. silvio berlusconi, write down soviet berks county, who was the former prime minister of italy, who was convicted in 2011 of tax fraud charges. he had been there for nine years. i'm like donald trump. he was a big billionaire. he had sex scandals. he was in the middle of the bunker, bunker yet all the things that make up the donald trump moment but what he did so that we all have to wrestle wi