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again, that's 1807123800. >> more than liebermann at the pentagon. >> this cnn welcome to. >> cnn news central embryonic cuellar alongside boris sanchez, and we're standing by for remarks from president biden as we learn burning is really forces are in central rafah and we're going to bring those to you live first though, one day after a new york jury convicted donald trump on 34 felony counts, the former president. now a convicted felon, reacted to the historic verdict in remarks at trump tower, railing against the trial and making numerous untrue statements about the case in a speech that targeted the verdict, judge juan river, sean district attorney alvin bragg, and some of the prosecution's key witnesses.

>> at one point, trump called the usa fascist state and vowed to appeal his conviction. which could see him spend up to 20 years behind bars. cnn's kristen holmes joins us now, live from new york. so kristen, what more did trump have to say photo president trump gave what seemed to be kind of rambling 35 minutes speech. >> she did not use a teleprompter actually, in fact, they had brought one out and they actually removed it before he stepped up there. all he did was take a few notes on a note card. he was all over the place. he aired his grievances. he said exactly as we have reported, the same messaging he has been saying since before the trial that it was a rigged trial, that it was election interference, that it was political persecution something that his team believed this resonating, at least with his base. and republicans. but one thing he said that really perked up a lot of our ears, particularly given us that are following the case closely mostly is he appeared to violate the gag order. does

reminder he is not allowed to talk about any witnesses. he is not allowed to talk about people who for prosecuting the case other than alvin bragg, it this was the moment in which it seemed that he could not help himself, but talk about what are the witnesses, take melissa by the way, this was a highly qualified lawyer. >> now i'm not allowed to use his name because of the gag order. but you know, he's just leaves back. everybody knows that. took me a while to find out but. he was effective. he did work now, i will remind you that the last time you violated the gag order, the judge said they were going to consider jail time. >> now, he did not say michael cohen zain, but it was pretty clear when you continually refer to the person as a former lawyer and a former fixer's. of course, we'll have to ask our legal experts about that. but overall here, it was very clear that this is going to be donald trump's campaign strategy at least for the next couple of weeks talking about this, airing, those grievances and it

was clear by what we saw that he was rattled he was all over the place. he felt the need to walk through various parts of this case because it is still on his mind now his team says that they again, think this will help them in november amber, we saw that poll yesterday, that just among trump voters, seven 7% of people who said that they were likely to vote for donald trump. so they would be less likely so, for donald trump, if he was convicted and sorry about this. this is also the finest bus stop outside of trump tower that were part of right now live tv martin, i know it doesn't sound like a lot, but when you are looking at an election like joe biden and dobbins, rob, where they are expecting whoever wins to win by such a narrow mount, of votes, 7% of one base could be quite significant. but again, no matter what is said right now, nobody can predict what is going to happen in november. i actually heard someone say this. i'm donald trump's team. there were skeptical as to what exactly was going to happen next. >> is that the people who are

going to decide this are you you need the countries what they meant by that? the fact that people passing those ballots in november to decide a sentence what this wild times. they're behind kristen holmes. >> we appreciate the report kristinn. >> so what is next for the former president for that, let's turn to cnn legal analyst and former federal prosecutor, elliot williams, and former trump white house lawyer. and cnn legal commentator, jim scholtz. what is next, elliott? where do we go from here? >> sentencing in about a month and that's standard in cases. now, what will happen is both parties, the prosecution and the defense will in effect submit memoranda to the judge is saying this is how you think that we think the defendant ought to be punished. now, obviously, the prosecutors tend to ask for a longer sentence than that the defendant does. i would assume that the defense here would not ask for any jail time. prosecutors can and they'll lay out the reasons

why whether it's the criminal history of the defendant, the nature of the conduct, how the defendant has behaved since since and prior to the crime and all of the above them, the judge will ultimately make a decision that hearing in july trump says that he could be put in jail for over 100 years. >> probably not going to have probably not going to happen. i think you're spot on there. if you were to add up the four-year statutory maximum on all 34 counts, then yes. in crazy town, that does not exist, one could go to jail for several hundred years or whatever the number is that doesn't happen. number one, virtually no one ever gets the statutory maximum of any crime no matter what and number to someone with no criminal history for a what's called a class e felony in new york probably won't even see jail time at all, let alone the statutory maximum. and finally, number three because the nature of how this crime was committed, in all likelihood, the judge would stack all the sentences on top of each other, so you wouldn't put four years on top of four years if you

just one sentence for all yeah. >> if we are kind of living in crazy town but not the crazy count, that doesn't exist jim, to you todd blanche said, you know, everyone in this jury new trump from his time as obviously president and on the apprentice and because of that, he doesn't accept that trump could get a fair trial i mean, where would you go that people wouldn't think oh, of course, this is the president. this guy was on the apprentice. i mean, where could you get a fair trial and i guess my real question is if that's sort of the point he's making, how does that speak to having success with an appeal? >> i don't think that's the strongest argument they're going to have on appeal. i think that's a political talking point that is also illegal talking point. i think you're going to see other mechanisms for appeal. i think the one thing that's going to certainly going to be an appellate issue is the whole harvey weinstein ish right? that the case that came down

recently where he was one of the chart where one of his convictions was dismissed. this was not a sex crimes case, so all 34 convictions, if you will if that testimony relating to what happened that night in that room was found to be more prejudicial than probative is found to be more prejudicial than probative by the appellate court, then it can have the effect of an overturning all of these convictions and wouldn't be on a case-by-case basis. i think another avenue for appeal that they're gonna look at strongly on the defense side is this whole issue of notice and due process as it relates to these underlying crimes, right? the underlying crime that that kind of brings it to the felony count, the cuff, the crime that they were covering up, if you will, that was alleged that they were covering up. it's the whole campaign finance issue was that properly charged? is that properly an underlying thank crime in this matter? were they given appropriate

notice by way the indictment they'll all those issues are gonna play out on appeal. this can be a long appellate process. we're going forward after sentencing what do you think of the substance of those potential appeals they're not frivolous a defendant always has a right to appeal whether it's his sentencing, his conviction, and so on. >> these were these were somewhat complex legal issues. now, the prosecution ably argued the judge was incredibly careful in substantiating the reasons why he was doing different things. but these aren't these won't be laughed out of court even if they ultimately lose. >> yeah. i mean, to that point, the idea of what the underlying crime is that super clear here well, could it have been clearer in the way the process should have had the jury outline that i don't know. and it's hard to say. now, look, many statutes are arson or homicide where you killed the guy or not. it's very straightforward most statutes,

particularly when you deal with financial crimes, business grants are actually quite complex, where judges have to be creative in how they explain something to the jury and prosecutors have to be creative and how it's argued to the jury. but the simple fact of false defining a business records, you can commit or conceal another crime is quite straightforward regardless of the fact that it's not murder. >> let's play some sounds from trump right now. he talked about deciding not to testify in his own defense. let's listen i would have testified i wanted to testify the theory is you never testify because as soon as you test for anybody, if it were george washington, don't test if i because they'll get you in something that you said slightly wrong and then they sue you for perjury. follow i said, what do you need to go through it? all you wanted to do is test if i simply on this case because i would have loved to have testified to this day. i would have liked to have testified jim, do you think the outcome would have been different if trump could've been able to testify no. no, not at all and

and quite the opposite, right. because he would have opened him the door was wide open to all kinds of questioning that would have impeached his testimony that he that he and his defense lawyers wouldn't have wanted to come out, so no, it wouldn't have changed the outcome of the trial in any way, shape, or form from the strategic decision by the lawyers for him not to testify was a smart one and i just think this is more political bravado than anything else in typical donald trump fashion. >> how do you see jim, the gag order at this point and donald trump's rough clear references to michael cohen so i think he's going to blow through this gag order. i think he's gonna continue to blow through the gag order post sentencing. i don't think it applies at that point, but up until sentencing, i think it does. and i think he's probably going to exercise his what he will call his ability to

exercise his free speech and defend himself in the public domain that the trial is over, and that, and that the gag orders should no longer apply in his mind jim shultz, elliot williams. great to get your perspective. thanks for being with us still to come cashing in on his conviction. turns out that losing a major legal battle is a winner would donors were filed following the donation one and vowing revenge. how right-wing media figures are using their platforms to spread dangerous rhetoric after the trump verdict in one of the most active tornado seasons you can't control a tornado. what kinds of interventions can we design? >> when cite the storm the premier of violent earth with liev schreiber, sunday at nine on cnn don't know. >> i've got to go thanks john

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trump campaign says it raised that staggering amount in small donor donation since the guilty verdict adding the figures nearly twice as large as the previous biggest de on the campaign's donation portal. >> the influx of cash is one of the reasons that many trump allies are arguing this guilty verdict could pay off for trump politically from a political sayyed, this is a big win. >> i mean, dot trump's website last night crash. i mean, there's so many people giving money politically, i think trump benefits from this. i think they elect him president last night cnn, congressional correspondent laura and fox has joining us now, on what war are you hearing from republican lawmakers after the verb? yeah, i mean, republicans have been very swift to come out in support of the former president, making clear that they are standing with him from their posts on capitol hill. you heard very quickly yesterday from speaker mike johnson. and here's what he said. >> about donald trump this is a purely political exercise, not

a legal one, and everybody knows that they know intuitively that it's wrong. >> and the people are outraged and other members of his leadership team, including the majority leader, steve scalise, elise stefanik, the conference chairwoman, and even the republican whip, tom emmer, were also quick to release statements right after the verdict on the senate, sayyed, we even heard from minority leader mitch mcconnell. >> he traditionally doesn't weigh in on trump's legal issues when he's asked about them on capitol hill, he and trump have had a notoriously icy relationship since january 6, but here's what he tweeted last night, quote, these charges never should have been brought in the first place. >> i expect the conviction to be overturned on appeal and it's not just about words lawmakers on capitol hill may also take further actions to trying to defend the president. >> already you're seeing jim jordan, the judiciary chairman, asking for alvin bragg, the district attorney, to come before his committee and testify on june 30. now, that's another matter entirely

whether or not bragg agrees to come before that committee, but just a sign of the ways that lawmakers on capitol hill are trying to use their post, trying to use their positions to show donald trump that they are standing with him briana, boris lauren fox, thanks so much for the update. let's dig deeper now with bryan lanza, he was deputy communications director for trump's 2016 campaign. he's also a partner at mercury public affairs. so brian, this conviction seems like a political gift for the trump campaign. >> first of all, thank you for having a voice. i think everything in the criminal space has been a gift for president trump, whether it was the four indictments are where he's able to raise a lot of money me, but i think you'll always see this example pop-up of where the party rallies behind him and his voters to rally behind him. and that's what you're seeing with the $34 million in nutty even 24 hours, i think in seven hours, they're gonna have an update in next couple of hours which could easily double that number. i mean, they're getting tremendous amount of support it seems like a gift in some ways, and yet trump's demeanor is pretty clear.

>> we can see it here, even just in the pictures, he's he's not happy with this. >> i don't think anybody would it be happy. >> but the good thing we know is about president trump is and you, after you yes, the mood of not being happy and sort of analyze a situation he'll fight back and do it. we'll see a very aggressive push back over the next five months from the political standpoint, you'll see an aggressive push back from the legal standpoint. i mean, this is not a guy who sits down and just says, punch me more. this is a geico punches back and i think we should be prepared for that. >> and if it's not overturned on appeal and he faces some kind of sentence, how does that play with voters going into this presidential election loose, i'm not a lawyer. i mean, i watched the oj simpson trial during college. my understanding is that the, appeal process is going to take several years. it's probably going to go well beyond the november election and he'll probably won't see any jail time before the election. you'll end. so that he'll still continue to campaign i think the question becomes and i don't know that answer. maybe a lawyer does is if he's given probation, he can't leave the state of new york, so what happens then and we'll will be posing a lot of questions about the different parameters,

certainly to our legal experts here. >> when you look at some of these different poles about trump's supporters it's a small group who would not vote for him if he were convicted in a trial when you look at that number, how do you see it? actually? fully playing out and how dependent is that on the messaging and people around trump? just undercutting what this conviction actually means. >> well, i think it's important. look at the election and the right framework though this election is not necessarily a binary choice between donald trump and joe biden this election is where the joe biden has earned a reelection, so he's has to go to his his constituency he has to go to his coalition and make the case that he's fulfilled those promises. the reason you see joe biden doing so poorly in the polls, the reasons you see president trump doing so well, even as the trowel non is because the consensus is from joe biden's coalitions that he hasn't met their promises and he hasn't makes their expectations and failed. so the election isn't necessarily trump's convictions during joe biden joe biden's asking to be

president again, he's asking to be rehired. he's got to make that case regardless of what president trump's position is. and the case is hard to make that its been better. i mean, the economies the worst that it's not that good for the middle-class. you have inflation at a high rate. you have the war is all around the world. i mean, let's just look at, let's just look at israel. you haven't just say the worst, it's ever been and then you stopped because i didn't want to talk hyperbole would be so unlike you, brian, there are a sizable number of republican voters and we saw i'll listen the primaries even after nikki haley dropped out that seem to reject donald trump because of the baggage, because of the chaos that he brings. i can't imagine that him now being convicted is going to lower those voters back. >> yeah. i mean, listen, we had a similar phenomenon to take place in 2016 were a lot of voters in the republican primary state out the very end, we even had a discussion at the convention that it was going to be stripped away from donald trump. none of those things happen. and what we saw take place in november's those voters came back. we saw those voters come back in 2020 after the covid response, people were less than half i think with

trump's silly says base was less than happy and they came back. i've no reason to believe they're not going to come back in 2024 and you'll, you'll see, you'll see more than ever unified republican party mean the conscience last night or just overwhelming. i mean, the vast majority of them are republicans saying, we're not happy with the situation as for the haley supporters, they're going to fall in line. they always do we're going to have to. see how, this plays out. i mean, yes, you have the first former president convicted of a felony, but then there's this other side. could you see the first felon? elected president and that's a very real real situation. >> i would say this, you know, you guys boss knows this to sort of latin america. it's not uncommon for president it's been found guilty of a crime to win an election. >> well, in america, it's very weird. >> i will say brian different. yeah, it's definitely different, brian. thank you so much. bryan lanza, we appreciate it. >> so as we mentioned, republicans have been criticizing the verdict ahead. >> we'll speak to a retired judge to get his reaction to the relentless attacks on it

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circulating around the world and putting intense pressure not only on israel and benjamin netanyahu, the prime minister, but also in the united states. and what has been its support for israel and what's clear is that since then, white house officials have kind of rewritten this idea of what a red line is. of course, this harkens back to president obama having a red line on syria that he didn't enforce and red lines frequently get president's into trouble. so there seems to be a little bit of confusion on exactly what that is. but right now we're seeing israeli, israeli efforts in rafah and there are significant. so how is he going to handle this also, we have this question of, is he going to address this guilty verdict when it comes to former president trump? it seems like it would be very hard to ignore. so we're going to have to see what happens. there are the reporting in recent days was that the white house was weighing exactly how to deliver a message once the jury had reached a verdict and potentially at any moment, we will hear what president biden

has to say on that we have a number of correspondence with us. >> priscilla alvarez is live wars white house. and here on set we have cnn's alex marquardt as well. alex president biden has remained vague about what this red line is, what it would take for the us to reconsider sending certain weapons for use by the idf what do you anticipate he's going to relay today? >> well, i think it's unlikely that there's going to be any kind of reversal of position. >> i mean, that strike in rafah took place on sunday night that killed more than 40 civilians and when us officials came back after the memorial day vacation day off, they were firm in saying that israel had not crossed the red line and we've do we journalists have been badgering the administration about what this red line is and john kirby, the national security spokesman, summed it up as israel smashing into rafah and as far as the administration is concerned, that has not yet happened, despite the fact that we've

seen numerous strikes that have killed scores of people what we're seeing is this operation from israel grow in a slower away initially in the southeastern part of rafah. now they're in central rafah. they've kind of looped around this southernmost part of gaza and taken over this nine mile stretch on the border with egypt called the philadelphi corridor so they're not doing it in a major way, at least as far as the biden administration is concerned. and so i don't think that we're going to hear the president say anything about withholding any more weapons for israel. i think what we're certainly be keep me an ear out for, of course, is the hostage deal and let's listen to what the president is saying here good afternoon before i begin my remarks, i just wanted to say a few words about what happened yesterday in new york city the american principle that no one is above the law was reaffirmed donald trump was given every

opportunity to defend himself, was a state case not a federal case. and it was heard by a jury of 12 citizens, 12 americans 12 people like you like millions of americans who served on juries. this juror is chosen the same way. every jury and america's chosen it was a process that donald trump's attorney was part of the jury heard five weeks of evidence, five weeks after careful deliberation the jury reached a unanimous verdict they found down some guilty on all 34 felony counts now it'd be given the opportunity as he should to appeal that decision just like everyone else has that opportunity. that's how the american system of justice works and it's reckless it's dangerous, it's irresponsible for anyone to say this was rigged just because they don't

like the verdict our justice system has endured for nearly 250 years and it literally is the cornerstone of america our justice system justice and should be respected and we should never allow anyone to tear it down to simple as that that's america. >> that's who we are. and that's who will always be god willy now, another issue i, i want to give an update on my efforts to end the crisis in gaza for the past several months maya negotiators are foreign policy intelligence community and like have been relentlessly focused, not just on a ceasefire that would that would inevitably be fragile and temporary but on a durable end of the war, that's been the focus of durable end of this war one that brings all the hostages home insurance, israel

security creates a better day after in gaza without hamas and power and sets the stage for political settlement that provides a better future for israelis and palestinians alike. now, after intensive diplomacy carried out by my team my many conversations leaders of israel, qatar, and egypt, and other middle eastern countries israel, as now offered, israel as offered a comprehensive new proposal. rom cease fire and the release of all hostages this, proposal has been transmitted by qatar to hamas today, i want to lay out his terms for american citizens and for the world this new proposal has three phases, three the first phase would last for six weeks here's what it would include.

>> a full and complete ceasefire the withdrawal of israeli forces from all populated areas of gaza release of a number of hostages, including women the elderly, the wounded, in exchange release of hundreds of palestinian prisoners there are american hostages who would be released at this stage. >> and we want them home additional some remains of hostages who have been killed would be returned to their families bringing some degree closer to the terrible grief palestinians civilians would return to their homes and neighborhoods in all areas of gaza including in the north humanitarian assistance would surge with 600 trucks carrying aid into gaza every single day with a ceasefire that aid could be safely and effectively distributed to all who needed hundreds of thousands of

temporary shelters, including housing units would be delivered by the international community all that and more would began immediately immediately der six weeks of phase one israel and hamas would negotiate the necessary razors to get to phase two which is a permanent endostyle hostilities now i'll be straight with you. there are a number of details that negotiate to move from phase one to phase two is you want to make sure it's interest are protected but the proposal says to negotiations take longer than six weeks, the front phase one a ceasefire will still continue as long as negotiations continue the united states, egypt and qatar would work to ensure negotiations keep going all agreements all agreements until all the raibert's are reached. >> and phase two is able to begin then phase two.

>> but really exchange for the release of all remaining living hostages including male soldiers, israeli forces withdrawal from gaza. >> and as long as the mouse lives up to its commitments a temporary ceasefire would become in the words of the israeli proposal, the cessation of hostilities permanently, end of quote session of hostilities permanently finally in phase three a major reconstruction plan for forgotten for gaza. would would commence an any final remains of hostages who've been killed would be returned to their families. that's the offer this down on the table and what we've been asking for is what we need people visual should know i can make this offer without any further wrist around security because they've devastated hamas, former forces over the

past eight months at this point, hamas no loggers, cable of carrying out another october 7 is one of them israelis main objective in this war. and quite frankly a righteous one. i know there are those in israel who will not agree with this plan. >> and we'll call for an war to continue indefinitely. >> some summer even in the government coalition and they've made it clear, they want to occupy gaza. they want to keep fighting for years. and the hostages are not a priority to them well, i've urge leadership vision of the stand behind this deal. despite whatever pressure comes under the people of israel. let me say this as someone who's had a lifelong commitment, israel as the only american president has ever gone to israel at a time of war as someone who just sent the us forces to directly defend israel when it was attacked by iran i asked you to

take a step back and think what will happen if this moment is lost. we can't lose this moment indefinite warrant pursuit of an unidentified notion of total victory will not bring israel will not bring down bogged out. we'll only bogged down israel and gaza draining the economic, military and your man and human resources. and further in israel's isolation in the world that will not bring hostages home. that will not not bring an enduring defeat of hamas. that will not bring israel lessee security but a comprehensive approach it starts with this deal will bring hostages home. and will lead to more secure israel and watch a ceasefire and hostage deal with conclude and unlocks the possibility of a great deal more progress, including including com along israelis

northern border with lebanon the united states will help forge a diplomatic resolution one that ensures is a security and allows people to safely return to their home without fear being attacked. with the deal of rebuilding of gaza will began arab nations and international community along with palestinian israeli leaders to get it done in a manner that does not allow hamas to rearm the united states will work with our partners to rebuild homes schools, and hospitals in gaza to help repair communities that were destroyed in the chaos of war and with this, do is we could come more deeply integrated in the region including it's no surprise to all including know potential historic normalization agreement with saudi arabia is you could be part of a regional security network to counter the

threat posed by iran all this progress would make israel more secure. with israeli families no longer living in the shadow of a terrorist attack all this would create the conditions for a different future a better future for the palestinian people? one of self-determinati on, dignity security, and freedom this path is available. once the deal is struck as we will always have the right to defend itself against the threats, to insecurity and to bring those responsible october 7 to justice. and the united states will always ensure israel has what it needs to defend itself hamas fails of a philos commitments under the deal is looking resume military operations. but easement, qatar i've assured me and they are continuing to work to ensure that hamas doesn't do that the united states will help ensure

that israel lives up to their obligations as well that's what this still says. that sort of says and we'll do our part this is truly a decisive moment here's those made their proposal hamas says it wants to cease fire this deal is an opportunity to prove whether they really mean it hamas needs to take the deal for months. people all over the world of call for a ceasefire now it's time to raise your voices and the man that he saw, hamas coming to the table agrees to the steel and then this war that they began course, there'll be differences on the specific details that need to be worked out as natural hamas come to negotiate, ready to deal? >> then, is negotiations must be given a mandate the necessary flexibility to close

that deal past eight months and marked heartbreaking pain pain and those who love other slaughtered by hamas terrorists october 7 hostage families waiting and anguish ordinary israelis whose lives are forever mark by the shattering event, hamas is sexual violence and ruthless brutality and the palestinian people have endured sheer hell of this war to many innocent people have been killed. clearly thousands of children far too many had been badly wounded were all saw the terrible images from the deadly fire and rafah earlier this week, following an israeli strikes against targets in hamas and even as we work to surge assistance to gaza with 1,800 trucks delivering supplies these last five days, 1,800 humanitarian crisis still remains i know this is subject

on which people in this country field deep passionate convictions so do i is my one of the hardest most complicated problems in the world there's nothing easy about this, nothing easy about through it all though the united states is work relentlessly to support israeli security, get humanitarian supplies in the gaza to get a ceasefire and hostage deal. the bring this war two an end. yesterday. >> with this new initiative we've taken an important step in that direction i want to level with you today as to where we are and what might be possible but i need your help everyone wants peace now was raised their voices let the leaders know they should take this deal work to make it real, make it last name and forge a

better future out of the tragic terror attack and more it's time to begin this new stage the hostages to come home for israel to be secure for the suffering, stop it's time for this war to end for the day after two began thank you very much. >> do you think that condition will have we love to hear your thoughts are should be on the back all right. not going to comment on the politics of the those on the verdict, right. >> it seemed like he might he sort of ties that he might his body language. then he walked

straight out of the room? >> no. so he was saying it is time for this war. the israel-hamas war, to end, and for the day after to begin alex, we're learning here of this israel proposed roadmap to a ceasefire we do not have all of the details. what he laid out, their sounds pretty good. right? sounds like something everyone should want, but then we know when we get into the details, things change very quickly. what struck you about what he said? it was a good number of details. i mean, what struck me initially was that he's laying out this israeli roadmap and putting the onus back on hamas to accept this deal. but then going on to say that there will be some in the israeli leadership who will not want to accept it. and then he made a direct appeal to the israeli people. do pressure their leaders to accept this deal. it is clear that biden is tired of this war and he wants this war to end. some of the details in the three-phase plan that he laid out. we knew in terms of the hostages who would be released, the hundreds of palestinian prisoners who would

be released in that first six-week phase of the deal. what's really interesting and what i was really listening out for, what's the phase two of the deal and this is kind of where hamas and the biden ministration are actually on the same the page because they don't want the war to start back up again after the first phase, after the first batch of hostages is released, they want both hamas and the white house want this first positive six weeks to flow seamlessly into a second phase, at which point there would be a permanent end to the hostility. so cracking open the door to this ceasefire, the administration has said for a long time could eventually lead to the end of the war. this is a good deal for hamas. if i'm understanding it correctly, if the pause starts, it will continue as long as negotiations go on the more than six weeks could be more than six weeks and we've reported that hamas, it actually demanded did that the first phase actually in effect be 12 weeks and then the permanent ceasefire start. so this could be a good deal for

them because the major sticking point has been this question about an end to the war. israel has not been willing to commit to language that would end the war because they feel like they still have to dismantle hamas. so my question right now is is prime minister netanyahu willing to agree to a deal that in effect could end this war in gaza. >> let's get perspective from jerusalem and out with cnn's jeremy diamond, who's lived there for us, jeremy, it's notable that some of the details coming out of this deal are coming from the us president and not prime minister netanyahu. what do you make of how this will be received? >> well, i think the very fact that president biden is coming out and laying out in more detail than he ever has a proposal that is actually on the table well, here is notable in and of itself, and it tells you the fact that american officials clearly believe that there needs to be enormous public pressure brought right now, not only on the israeli leadership, which he talked about and talking about israeli please, this is a good deal and

talking about the way in which this can set up a long-term path to security for the israeli people. >> but he also focused on the people who are out protesting in the streets around the world calling for a ceasefire. >> and he urged it's them to now turn their attention to pressure hamas to accept this deal. and so he was clearly trying to pressure both parties at the negotiating table to try hi end and accept this proposal. we should note, of course this is israel's latest proposal based on the way that the president was describing it. the second thing is, i think alex is right to focus on the kind of the way in which phase one would go into phase two and what it seems to be the newest part of this proposal is the fact that negotiations to lead into a permanent end to the hostilities, to lead into that phase two would continue and the ceasefire would continue along with it until there is an agreement. and that appears to be perhaps an elegant way of trying to get a

lasting ceasefire without forcing israeli, israel's political leadership to agree to that at the very beginning of these negotiations, which is something that they have refuted just to do something the israeli prime minister has refused to do. >> and this allows them to do it at a point in time where hostages are being released. >> and also where for the ceasefire is already dragging on to the point where starting up the war again is going to be very challenging for the israeli military. we should note though, that that's still does not hamas is position hamas wants an end to the war at the very beginning of this agreement, or wants israel to at least agree to that at the very beginning. so that carries directly into that phase two without any negotiations. and we should also note that hamas this week has been entrenched in its position even further, saying that they won't even agree to negotiate right now until israel stops its military operations in gaza. >> all right, so off to see how

this has received jeremy diamond life for us in jerusalem. thank you. we will be coming back to this as we just heard from president biden, israel has offered this road map forward here in negotiations with hamas, a lot up in the air. often these things fall apart part so we're going to see if that changes. but let's talk now about what the president mentioned at the top. he commented on the verdict, the unanimous conviction of former for president trump. >> yeah, the president saying that the american principle that no one is above the law was reaffirmed yesterday with this decision, he emphasized that is how the us system of justice works. and he went after the former president and some of his backers saying that it is reckless to say that it is rigged. we want to get some perspective now from kristen holmes, who has been following the trump trial and the trump campaign, very closely kristinn. what did you hear from president biden? in regards to this verdict of donald trump and the way that trump has responded to it this

is a very different speech. >> then what we heard from donald trump in understand that this is not all about donald trump, but biden remained on message and he said the things that democrats wanted him to say, and the people expected him to say it was that no one is above the law. and also, as you mentioned, and i think this part is very critical that they found donald trump guilty on all 34 felony counts and then saying it is reckless, dangerous, and irresponsible to say that the trump trial was rigueur. that is a poor argument of the former president's. that's essentially all you said today. and in speech, i was rambling and a huge airing of grievances. donald trump wants to make this a political campaign issue. he wants to blame on president joe biden and say that he is a political prisoner, quote, unquote, that was an actual bodyweight email that donald trump stands out last hi biden clearly separating himself from that common do strictly on the verjee also said at one point

that he has the right to appeal, like any other person i'm sorry. again meeting here by the bus stop guys. but the most important takeaway here is that this to me, is that this is going to be a political issue moving forward and both sides see that is such donald trump spent a lot of time today. >> he could have talked about immigration. he could have talked about the economy, things that his team believes will help him win in november instead, he aired his grievances and in fact, there's some concerns that he breached his gag order because he went after one of the leaf witnesses, not by name, but very clearly attacking my cohen and calling him a sleazebags. joe biden separating from this thing, you can make his appeal. that they should not calling this a rigged trial is reckless that i think this is just the beginning of how we're going to see this play out in the political sphere ahead of november all right, kristin, thank you. >> and let's bring in priscilla all rows, priscilla, let's play a little bit of what we just heard from president biden as he commented at the top of

these remarks in the middle east about the verdict of former president trump. here it is they found donald trump guilty on all 34 felony counts now it'd be given the opportunity as he should two pill that decision just like everyone else has that opportunity. >> that's how the american system of justice works and it's reckless is dangerous, it's irresponsible for anyone to say this was rigged just because they don't like the verdict priscilla, how has the president and the white house been weighing how to respond appropriately to this conviction. well, and this was notable because it is the first time that we heard directly from the president about this verdict. i think it is important here to note exactly how he laid this out. he was quite technical in his language and describing how the justice system works, and how this

verdict was reached. noting, for example, the jurors and also going on to say, quote, no one is above the law that principle has been reaffirmed and it's important to note that because that is been the fine line that this white house has had to walk over the course of this trial. they have been relatively quiet because they didn't want to give any perception that this had anything to do with the federal government or pushing along the claims of the president was involved. the fact the president noted this was a state case not a federal case. and so the campaign has really been leading the charge over the last few hours in sort of attacking what has happened in saying that the former president in his remarks earlier today is quote, on hinge, but that's been the campaign link to the charge, the white house has had. it has a much more difficult time hymen has had to walk this fine line. and that's when you saw the president doing today, sort of taking a somber tone, talking about the american

justice system and noting again that it is quote, irresponsible to say it's rigged. and that again, has been the challenge for the administration. it could very much still be the challenge moving on in the next few weeks. and that is where where we sort of see the campaign take the baton, where they could be more forceful, more aggressive in their language, and talking about this trial, we know there has been talk about whether or not they should be calling him him being the former president, a criminal. we've seen the statements be a little more forceful, but at the end of day with the campus paine's message is going to be is that this needs to be decided at the ballot box not in the courtroom. so again, the president, notable moment, he waited on this for the first time. it has been a historic moment. but he really took the moment here to be very technical in his description of what occurred yesterday russell alvarez from the white house. thank you so much. let's get some perspective now from judge george grosso. judge, thanks so much for being with us. >> you're reaction to what we just heard from president biden regarding the american justice

system reckless dangerous and they're responsible the attacks by now convicted felon donald trump and his minions let's be clear here. >> this is on a jury system. this is on our judicial system, and this is on the rule of law. i don't think president biden could have said it more clearly more succinctly on what directly this is a very dangerous moment in our history. what's happening right now? >> we've been listening, judge to your analysis of the trial throughout. you were inside the courthouse for it? and day in, day out, you were kinda calling balls and strikes pointing out, when the prosecution, in your view, was not doing as well as they showed or when the defense was doing well. but clearly, you feel very passionately about some of the diatribes

been leveled at the justice system here. i would like to go through some of the things that we've heard from former president trump's team where they're saying things like this case never should have been tried there are democrats who thinks this shouldn't have been certainly the first case that was tried. but i wonder what you think about that. that point that is made the timing of the case is being tried wasn't decided by all political system. it was decided by all legal system. this was the case that was brought fall with i think it was abundant evidence to support the indictment. i've said that from the beginning but i've also said and i've spoken to you on occasion right out of the courthouse that we have a confrontational system when when when the witness was when michael cohen was caught flat-footed by todd blanche on

a crucial october 24th phone call i called that right out and i said that was a powerful moment for the defense and i'll have to say judgment. sean, who continues to be subject to vicious and unfair attacks. i saw, you can call what what former president and now convicted felon trump did today, has a press conference because he took no no no questions. but the way savagely attacks the judge to go back to that cross-examination of michael cohen i mean, todd blanche moved right in. he was yelling at them. he was calling him a liar or perjure are right in front of the jury and the judge, as he should, let him have the run. and there were a number of other instances where the judge leinz backwards for the defense. i'll give you another example. when stormy daniel's was was testifying on occasion the prosecution was getting into areas that clearly

they should not have beginning into in terms of let's say, the salaciousness of the incident but maybe one the defense was just sitting there and not objecting the judge objective and some sustains objections on his own to protect the defense. another instance, when stormy daniels was testifying and apparently this i didn't hear personally, but it was subsequently on the rest she was saying things regarding the encounter all of a sudden the judge brought the parties to the bench and then they went back to the bench. it's subsequently came out with the judge. did is he won them because apparently defendant trump was using expletives but instead of calling that out in front of the jury, the judge did it in a controlled way. this was a fair trial. there was a mountain of evidence in this trial now, the key was ultimately the jury had to believe a damaged witness,

michael cohen. >> yeah. but they also had abundant evidence to support them. they did so. yeah. that's our judicial process. what's happening now is a charade out attack on the rule of law in our country. and we need to stand up to it. >> and a unanimously convicted trump of 34 counts. judge george grass. so we very much appreciate you being with us. >> stay with cnn. will be back in just moments chances for plane crash one 111 million. you're not can can you just saw tonight trying never waking up from anesthesia one in 185,000 valley, your parking or to see how it goes me my stress about the unlikely does a killer clown worry about being struck by lightning while winning the lottery? thank cure it out. but your odds of falling victim to online crime are one and four. >> you need ora, you, your family, all protected from scary online stuff protect everything you're family does online with aura oh, carney isolde. it's gotten me. i saw them. that's what i got. igneous carnegie got to me.

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