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dangerous, it's irresponsible for anyone to say this was rigged just because they don't like the verdict our justice system has endured for nearly 250 years and it literally is the cornerstone of america. our justice system justice and should be respected and we should never allow anyone to tear it down president biden, obviously appearing there to be responding to remarks that former president trump made earlier today at trump tower where he defiantly blasted the trial saying that it was rigged, where he launched into a series of attacks on the judge and key witness michael cohen, as well as the biden administration cnn's kristen holmes is back with us now. >> i wonder if you're hearing anything from trump's camp about what biden said there, kristen not yet. >> we haven't gotten a response and i will let you know. we just saw his motorcade around trump tower is expected any moment we've trump tower and go to bedminster. that's

where it's going to spend the weekend before going back to palm beach is still no reaction to exactly what biden said but donald trump himself, as you noted, getting out there and talking about the case today. and then at times rambling, airing of grievances he also claimed at one point that he had wanted to testify, but it was encouraged not to take a listen to what he said no, i would have testified i wanted to testify the theory is you never testify because as soon as you test for anybody, if it were george washington, don't testify because they'll get you on something that you he said slightly wrong and then they sue you for perjury. >> but i didn't care about that. i wanted to but the judge allowed them to go into everything that i was ever involved and nut this case, everything that i was ever involved in, which is a first. in other words, you could go into every single thing that i ever did. was he a bad boy? here was a bad boy there emma lawyer said, what do you need

to go through an oil you wanted to do is testify simply on this case because i would have loved to have testified to this day. i would have liked to have testified you can tell they're that he was not on teleprompter as aid that actually set up a teleprompter setup and then removed at moments before he got there, which might be why he when into a whole it was a bad boy. >> they're bad boy, their situation while talking. this is not the only moment that he seemed to go off script who's talking at one point about allen weisselberg being in jail, talking about different cars and how why do you have to clean them on your tax reports? there was a lot of in and out in this speech one thing is clear. donald trump is going to capitalize off of this verdict as much as he possibly can. will it help them in the end politically, that is something that only voters will be able to to decide. but right now his team believes that he should continue to message this they should continue to fund raise off of this and that that could help them get some republican voters who feel like they were

sitting on the fence before two support donald trump. i will note that donald trump's team says that they raised 34.8 million. it's small-dollar donations sense that verdict came out, of course, skies, we cannot verify that number until we see the fec reports all right. >> kristen holmes live outside of trump tower. thank you so much for that leading republicans are rallying around the former president on the senate, sayyed minority leader mitch mcconnell said the charges never should have been brought in the first place. that's something that we're hearing from a lot of republican house speaker mike johnson. meanwhile called yesterday shameful and said the trial he was a political exercise, not a legal one. notably, we just heard from former vice president mike pence as well. he just put out a statement saying that trump conviction is an outrage, that it undermines the american justice system. he called the charges politically motivated notably, those two similar to mitch mcconnell, perhaps two or more dramatic degree, had a break after january 6, 2021. but pens here coming out in

defence of the former president. let's get some perspective now with former republican arkansas governor ayso hutchinson and david shown who is an attorney for trump during his second impeachment trial. a governor, i'd like to start with you. you're a former prosecutor. what's urea? action to hearing fellow republicans call this a sham trial, saying that jurors got this wrong well, you could see it coming from the showcase of other candidates other rivals, members of congress, outside the courtroom undermine into even during the course the trial. >> this is a serious moment for america. and i'm one of those in the camp that i didn't think the charges should have been brought to begin with, i've made that statement but when the prosecution put forth their case and you solve a seriousness of the jurors. you couldn't see it, but you you can see how they were following in the reports of those in the

courtroom. >> and it has to give you some respect both for the prosecution and for the jurors that took this case. >> so seriously and throughout this trial, you didn't have one juror. are saying donald trump is innocent and so as an officer of the court, as a lawyer, we ought to respect the findings of a jury that didn't mean there shouldn't be an appeal. and i know that there will be and it could be reversed on appeal. >> but let's don't undermine the seriousness of what has happened. >> and the serious work that the jury did. the only one donald trump's attacking is a judge right now. thank goodness. they don't know who the jurors are. i think they did a good job as they went through this difficult case. >> governor, just real quickly why shouldn't this case had been braunton in your opinion? >> well, i questioned the legal theory it seemed a very novel that they were tying the

business records falsification to federal election violation. and that seemed to be a stretch. now, obviously when it went to the jury, it was not limited but two federal election violations. it was also a possibility of a felony be in a state court, state violation, tax violations, and so it took a shift as this case went to trial and they did a good job meeting the technical legal requirements of the offense presented to the jury in a away, obviously, they could understand, but at the beginning as a prosecutor this appeared to me as a campaign finance violation has seemed to be a stretch, so i wasn't in favor of bringing it, but they made their case david, i want to play some sound from trump defense attorney todd blanche, who was on cnn last night, he was asked why the defense didn't call more witnesses. here's his response. >> one, thing he brought up were the witnesses who were not

called and he was saying that there could have been witnesses that would have helped make the case. we never saw keith schiller, allen weisselberg, some key figures here who got brought up a lot why didn't the defense call any of these witnesses? >> well, because we happen to live in america and we don't have the burden of proof. you as a defense for you don't go into a case saying i'm going to fill the hole to the prosecution. right. and keith schiller and some of the other witnesses that were not ultimately called in our view, should have been called should have been called by the prosecution david was that ultimately a mistake i don't know if it was a mistake or not, but he really didn't answer the question. >> is right. that they don't have a burden. the question was, would they have been helpful to win the case if they felt they should have been called. but i discount be perfectly honest. i discount these are not really experienced criminal defense lawyer players to be perfectly candid about it, the former prosecutors, but out of their league in my view, in this case, i'd like to just come

and a question you ask the governor. why shouldn't these charges have been brought? i mean, one answer to that would be because the fed's passed on it and the federal election commission passed on it. and i think that's a fair statement to make. i don't like the spec you have a district attorney running on a campaign of getting some particular citizen like donald trump. but my overall comment on the case, i think first of all, the governors, right. i don't think you've fault the jurors in this case. the jury has followed the instructions they got. i think the instructions were very problematic. i'm not sure that these defendants this lawyers objected when they should have to the instructions, but i think the fundamental problem with this case is i believe it's a fatally defective indictment. you cannot put a person to trial without charging what the target crime was. and in this case, we saw when the judge denied the motion to dismiss, he said, well, those states put forward four possibilities. >> you can have four possibilities and know whether to defend against attacks, target crime, or a campaign finance target crime, and so

on. and they certainly should have had a special verdict if that were the case to find out what the jurors thought to target crime was. it also raises a double jeopardy problem. i'm sorry to talk for too long. >> no, that's okay. i'm going to ask you to talk for a little longer, david. what do you think then considering that you've identified a lot of what you think are weak spots what is the strongest argument for appeal as you see it? >> i think that's the strongest argument. i think there's a due process violation, double jeopardy violation, other fifth and sixth amendment violations from this indictment, the defendant is entitled to have the grand jury decide what what charge, what crime he's charged with. remember, as the governor explained, you have to prove the misdemeanor that he false business this records with the intent to defraud and with the intent to conceal or commit some other crime, you can't just have it loosey-goosey out there every crime has elements, every crime has a mens rea, a state of mind, and the government, the state has the obligation of proving that. but more importantly, to identify it first not can you find some

crime governor? i'm curious about what you think the sentence would look like here well, i mean, first of all, this is going to be a substantive issue on appeal and i agree that it could be reversed. >> we don't know but and i don't think you should presume that. but in terms of the sentencing, i really feel so strongly that former president trump should not go to jail it's going to be problematic, whatever happens in the judge's mind, but i hope that he shows restraint. i hope that he is looks at the entire country and what's best. i do believe this should be decided at the election polls in november but i hope that he gives him probation. what's interesting is he gives him

probation based upon good behavior that's going to be challenging for donald trump in and of itself. >> that is a very good point. governor. david. thank you so much to both of you. we appreciate your time thank you find ahead this hour on cnn news central, some brand new polling that is giving us some insight into whether these convictions and trump's felon status will affect his support in the upcoming election. plus they just delivered one of the most consequential verdicts in american history. how are the jurors possibly feeling today in one of the most active tornado seasons you can't control a tornado. what kinds of interventions can we design go inside the store? >> the premier of violent earth with vm schreiber, sunday at nine on cnn first, we did the impossible then you ate so many of the them possible that we completely ran out. >> and now there the foot

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so you can give it everything. tylenol number one, doctor recommended for arthritis pain. i'm laura and thoughts on capitol hill donald trump wasted no time using his status as a convicted felon and self-proclaimed political prisoner to raise money for his campaign. yeah, big money because you break in nearly $35 million within hours of his guilty verdict the biden campaign, though is also capitalizing off of trump's conviction, urging supporters to donate. cnn senior data reporter harry enten is here to break down the numbers. harry, those are some big numbers. >> i wish i had 35 million. i wouldn't be here right now. now. now it's still hang out anywhere. i mean, here hanging out with come on. i would but i would share the wealth that would share the wealth i want you to know. >> we can split it three ways. all right. >> look, it's not much of a surprise that a lot of money was raised because the fact is interests in donald trump once the verdict came down, has been through the roof. >> so these are google searches

for donald trump. look at this at the time of conviction, up 3,000 3,233% from versus the hour before the conviction took place yesterday. you do not need to be a mathematical wizard to know that this number is extremely high. and throughout this trial, we really have not seen the interest from the american public in the trial. it's been sort of low on the list of most important issues. but when the conviction actually came down yesterday, the interests went through the roof and i think that's part of the reason why, of course, you saw that mega money being drawn in by the former i'm a president. >> all right, so how does it impact the race? >> okay so money is one thing google interest is another, but then there's a third element which is, do people in the middle actually care about this? >> so i'm going to present two separate sides to this. all right, so let's take a look here. these are trump supporters who said they'd be less likely to vote for him if he was convicted. we've got a timeline going on here, right. and what you basically see is these percentages are quite low

and may of 2024, it was 7%. april of 2024, 5%, march of 2024, it was 10%, the highest figure on there. and that's not particularly high. and i should also note, of course, throughout all of these indictments and this particular trial, we really haven't seen much pole movement at all. so i think the question is, why would we see paul movement now? all right, so this is the good case for trump. let's take a look though at the bad case for trump and a good case for biden. all right, so this is the biden versus trump margin pre conviction. we haven't gotten a poll out yet, at least not a reliable paul since conviction took place. so this is the biden versus trump margin pre conviction in early may, donald trump led by three percentage points, but then marquette university law school, as the hypothetical, they said, okay, what happens if trump were convicted while in that particular case, looked at what happens to this margin. joe biden now leads by five percentage points. now i should note, of course, this is just a hypothetical, while have to wait and see what happens. but

at this particular point, i wouldn't be surprised since the war's movement in the polls, but then again, i wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't any movement either. we're just going to have to wait and say, we will see how it plays out. harry, do you promise that you would split that money with us? >> absolutely. absolutely. though i should note that the chances of us winning is roughly between, i think one and lead 292,000,001 and 1,303 million. >> let's say 1,111.6. it was like 11.6 million. >> but you take home like half of that after taxes and nevertheless i would feel bad about bailing on lunch with harry, like i did a few weeks, you harry, i'm sorry, i just didn't want tofu man. my bad. >> yeah. next time, honestly brain and he's still sharing with you he's a good man. >> periods thanks so much. by let's discuss about how both candidates are now moving forward with david axelrod. he's a cnn senior political commentator and former senior adviser to president obama thanks so much for being with us. so this would just say before it, before you before you proceed. >> if i have $35 million, i'd

by harrington's enthusiasm that's what i would spend my money on anyway, go ahead well, what do you want to talk about here? he does have a lot of enthusiasm. >> i'm wondering whether you feel enthusiast gastric about joe biden's chances given the outpouring of support that we've seen for donald trump, it doesn't seem like this conviction has hurt him, erased nearly $35 million in the hours following the verdict. >> how do you see it, david? >> look first of all, i think the most dangerous time to assess the impact of anything like this is in the hours after it's going to take awhile for us to assess what impact it will have on the race. it does have an impact on fundraising and that will be helpful to trump who struggled with that or earlier in the race. so i'm sure those dollars will be welcomed, but those dollars are coming from people who obviously we're trump voters to begin with. i think harry was right to be cautious about making any predictions about

how this would go. i think it's very hard in advance to weigh what a verdict like this will actually do in the real-world when it has happened but there is one thing that i think is true and we saw it play out this morning. i did a podcast earlier in this week, my axon tap podcasts and chris christie was on the podcast, who knows trump very well. and christie said we're focusing too much on how the verdict will be received by voters, and we should focus more on how the verdict will be received by trump because he is likely to become a lot angrier, a lot more paranoid, a lot more apocalyptic as because the two things that he feared here's the most in life for bankruptcy and prison and i think you saw an unhinged donald trump this morning, who made his remarks. he would have little interventions where he talked about the country, but mostly he talked about himself this is

an opportunity for joe biden as trump becomes more and more consumed with his own grievances and his own situation biden has an opportunity to go out there and talk about the problems and concerns of people. what he's doing, what trump would do, what the future would look like and i think one thing that that we are not factoring into this is what does trump's personal performance and how it's changed by this verdict? what does that do in this election? >> his demeanor certainly seem different after the conviction came down, and certainly today before his speech, david, going back to what you said about this, this opportunity for joe biden to sort of counter program and make election issues central to the discourse as opposed to the legal issues that trump is facing? >> facing what did you think of what he said earlier and how he made the decision yesterday and the reaction from trump folks

about the american justice system and how it should be protected, moving forward, what did you think? >> no, i think that's i think that was it was a good good response from biden. i think it was measured and it focused on the fundamental issue of our system, which is no one is above the law. and i think that's a point worth making i just don't think that should be the center piece of his campaign. there are so many other things that actually touch people's lives. i mean his points should be well, he's consumed by himself and is finding for himself, i'm fighting for you and let me tell you how and let me tell you what your future what the future will look like with trump. and with me when it comes to the cost of your health care, the cost of your pharmaceuticals, abortion rights there are really distinct differences between these two guys. biden needs to prosecute that case politically

in order to leverage up in this race. and i think trump's sort of unhinged focus on his own situation gives him that opportunity. the contrast would work for biden, but what he has to not do is do what he's done too much of i think which is to look for credit for the things he's done. this is not an electorate that is in a a credit giving mood the country's in a sour mood and history will give joe biden credit for a lot of the things that he's done. he needs to set this into a comparative frame he's fought to make health care more accessible through the affordable care act. trump would destroy the affordable care act he's fired to bring down the cost of farmers circles. trump did nothing about that and would bow to the pharmaceutical company. i think there are a series of contrasts. i go to the lives of people are leading and their own problems that in which biden can engage. and of

course, his superpower is his empathy. he needs to show that and throw this whole race into a contest between someone who has empathy and advocacy for people and someone who's consumed by himself david axelrod, appreciate the insight, thanks for being with us great to see you guys. of course much more of our coverage of the felony conviction of donald trump is still ahead also next, a political and economic problems for president biden today are new report on inflation some stubborn numbers when we come back russia were trying to spy on us we were spying on them i was hadi frank this is a war, but secret war. secrets and spies, a nuclear game premier sunday at ten on cnn, with car gurus, you can buy or sell your car in person or online if only you could do things your way

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2.7%. again, no improvement from the month before. and when you look at the trend which it is really important, you can see that two things really stand out, right one inflation has gotten a lot better than the middle of that chart that was 2022 the other thing though that stands out is that this progress of late has really stalled out and 2.7% inflation where we are now, that is well above the 2% that the fed is tara we're getting now the good news from this report is that when you zoom in core inflation, which excludes food and energy that did improve on a monthly basis ever so slightly, but we need to see more of that improvement because look, we know americans are fed up with the cost of living. the fact that life just costs so much more than it did to two and three and four years ago and looked at federal reserve is trying really hard to coax inflation back down, right? they've lifted interest rates. we've got 7% mortgage rates, credit card rates are near record highs, but sort of

like a stubborn toddler. >> and i'm not going to name any names, you know who you are, but sort of like a stubborn toddler who does don't want to go to bet on time, right inflation is just, is not cooperating, not yet, really a child of any age. i'm not naming names either. man, he gets thank you for that report. on my head on cnn news central, 12 men and women found former president trump guilty. what comes next for them after? taking part in one of the biggest verdicts in american history, we'll have that after a quick break in one of the most active tornado seasons you can't control a tornado. what kinds of interventions can we design go inside the store? >> the premiere of violent earth with liev schreiber sunday hi on cnn someone needs to customize and save hundreds with liberty mutual white there's an. elevator only pay for what you need labor day

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8085920400. that's when 8085920400 in the moments following former president donald trump's conviction, conservative media figures took to the air to rip the verdict, slam the trial, and take aim at the judicial system. then we're going to vanquish the evil forces that are destroying this republic. it's a sad day for our justice system. the best justice system ever created by man, the foundation of our constitutional republic. it's literally dying before your eyes. >> so are we going to establish a precedent? where the president can put his political opponent in jail. it's the type of power we usually see dictators exercise in china and cuba, and north korea so some of the right's most popular names openly calling for the government to become trump's weapon of choice for revenge against his political enemies. here's some of what we've seen from folks online, the daily wire's matt walsh, who is millions of social media subscribers so trump should

quote make and publish a list of ten high ranking democrat criminals who he will have arrested when he takes office and quote sean davis, the head of the federalist, wrote, he wants to see a list of which democratic officials are going to be put in prison and quote joining us now to talk more about this as cnn's chris wallace, he's host of who's talking to chris wallace on max and the chris wallace show airing saturday mornings here on cnn. does any of that rhetoric surprise you? >> no. unfortunately, it doesn't surprise me that sore. >> it's been headed, but think how how different the situation is for make years ago in 2016, donald trump's brilliant move was to put out a list of conservative judges who would, he would consider? to name to the supreme court. now, you've got right-wing commentator is saying, put out a list of the top democrats you're going to put in jail as soon as you get into office. that's a sign of how much the republican party

and maga world and the political conversation in this country has changed over the last eight years. >> it seems like some of the radek rhetoric and some of the leinz that we hear there that just gets co-opted by some republican officials who run with it, even some who you might suspect don't always believe it in their hearts, but that's the political messaging that they go with. you know, how damaging do you think it really is when they're taking aim at the judicial system, especially i think of like tim scott saying the judicial system hunts republicans while it protects democrats, but, you bob menendez, 100 biden might think otherwise, some of the people that you showed on that screen a moment ago, i don't think no better. there are people who do know better and i think of somebody like tim scott and some of the marco rubio knowing better, protect, got a fall in line. if you're going to have a place and this republican party, you gotta fall in line with the maga talking points and with donald

trump's talking, months. i mean, you had a moderate governor of a former governor of maryland, larry hogan, who's running for the senate and maryland, a really blue state. and the real possibility that he can turn a blue seat, red and maybe give the republicans control the senate. pretty important thing. all he said yesterday was we in this country need to respect the the verdict of the jury. and one of the chairs of the trump campaign said his campaign has finished. the point is, if you don't fall in line, you are out what does this do more broadly to assist them that has served as a beacon of light for the world, right a huge part of the judicial system in this country is based on the belief that it functions fairly and if you have these leaders essentially saying that it's corrupt and a lot of people believing them without evidence what does that do? >> you know, boris if you'd asked me this four years ago, i would've said, well, its

rhetoric, it's overheated ryder where the white light knows how to throw, read me to its constituents and the left knows how to do the same but january 6, 2021 changed everything we saw them, that rhetoric can actually turn into action and action can turn into violence. so when you hear people talking about going after top democratic officials, when you hear them talking about not complying with the rule of law, i think it has a different meaning, a different resonance, and a different fear factor if you will, than it did three years ago. >> do you think there pardon me do you think there are guardrails that would stop president trump from if he's reelected weaponizing some parts of his administration against his political rivals or enemies. >> you know, you do have the supreme court and you do have congress. of course it depends who's in charge of congress?

but you do have to raise questions. so when you look back to the investigation in the house, january 6 committee, did there were a few key moments there where the acting attorney general said, no, we're not going to do that or the white house council said, no, we're not going to do that. and one of the concerns i think is that is that donald trump 2.0 isn't going to go as he did in the beginning of his first term for the respectable the wreck stellar seasons, the gym matus as the hr mcmaster is, he's going to pick people because he knows how the system works. now, he's going to pick people who will tow his line and follow his order. and under those circumstances, i think the question of guardrails becomes much more in doubt. >> it's to your point about how much things have changed in a relatively short amount of time. somebody that didn't toe the line, mike pence, who certify the results of the 2020 election today came out and basically said that this is a corrupt proceeding the

conversation has been summer, so we're going to pivot slightly. who's talking to chris wallace this week? well, it's interesting, but it's right on these leinz that we talked to build mwaura, the very popular host of real time on hbo and max and one of the questions i wanted to ask him about was the fact that even before trump ran the first time in 2016, he said, if he is elected, he won't leave voluntarily in 2020. he wanted admit that he lost and here's that conversation. starting in 2018, you started predicting with some regularity that have donald trump lost his bid for reelection in 2020 that he wouldn't leave. >> i said it before he was elected the first time, i kept saying slow moving coup, which it's happening, and it's going to happen, and we see it. i mean, the stages of it would just keep going down this road. and i noticed that the right wing now has sort of talk themselves into this idea that he's just this before niche community he, and he says crazy

things. he's always had crazy things. he it's like he's not a serious, so they don't take it seriously. and that's the problem we have, is that this is very serious and he's running a much more serious campaign this time so what do you think happens? >> if, he loses this time, well, i am january 20, 2025, he's going to show up on inauguration day, whether he went or loses because he will claim that he won. >> that is the one thing i can absolutely predict with utter certainty. he will never, as i kept saying, all those years, will never concede an election. he's certainly not going to concede this one. >> interestingly enough, bill maher, who has no fan of donald trump's that he thinks. now this is prior to the verdict yesterday. he thinks trump at this moment is odds-on to be re-elected president. and you can watch the interview, the full interview not right now because we're watching new but as soon as the show is over, you can watch it on max where it's posted right now. >> all right. we'll check that

out, chris, always great to have you, chris wallace. thank you so much for my slicers still plenty more news to come on. cnn news central, the vitriol isn't just reserved for politicians. we're also seeing growing anger toward jurors. cnn, his learning that right now on certain online forums, people are threatening violence and are attempting to publicly identify the 12 new yorkers who convicted the former president. >> that's bring in trial consultant richard for gabriel. richard, you know, when jurors walk into deliver their verdict yesterday, we're told that some other heads hong maybe feeling the weight of their decision. what do you think they're experiencing today? >> well, i think they're experiencing some relief that they're out of the trial, but i do think that there is some trepidation. obviously, they know going into this trial that there's some risk about this. and i really just want to remind the public, you can disagree with the verdict but the jurors are 12 ordinary citizens who really swore to do their job. look at the evidence, follow the judge's

instructions, and do it. so i think this heated rhetoric about vial threatened violence towards the jurors or towards the judiciary really does threaten the entire institution of justice. and i think we need to really he dial down the heated rhetoric about this again, plenty of room for disagreement about this, but i think it's important to honore what the process was that did arrive at this verdict richard, after handing down a verdict that could potentially send a former president the presumptive republican nominee, to jail do you anticipate that members of the jury might speak about this case publicly? >> it's possible that they may feel compelled to do so at some point to explain their process and their verdict that being said, i think a lot of them are very concerned about their own personal safety, about the harassment of friends and family. and we'll just basically want to disappear. the judge has it's kept them anonymous. and even though

there are threats, maybe to reveal the identities, i think a lot of them just want to say, look, i did my job. i don't want to be in a public forum any more about this. and i've done my service richard gabriel, thanks so much for spending time with us this afternoon thank you much more of our coverage of donald trump's conviction and just moments at morgan stanley old-school hard work, meets ball, new thinking to help you, see untapped possibilities and relentlessly work with you to make them real zyrtec allergy relief works fast and lasts a false 24 hours. >> so zaid can be deliver, dance okay. dave, let's be more than our allergies seize the de with zyrtec, you've found the right model for sure now, how can you be sure you're getting

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