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together, let's drive out the darkness i'm caitlin polio at the federal courthouse in washington. >> and this is cnn it's monday, june 3, right now on cnn this morning you know, at a certain point there's a breaking point. it donald trump claims he's fine with going to jail, but he says, his supporters may not be plot hunter biden about to become the first child of a sitting president to go on trial and people in texas waiting for
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daybreak to assess the damage after two tornadoes touched down like last night and an historic election in mexico 6:00, a.m. here in washington alive. look at new york city on this monday morning. good morning, everyone. i'm kasie hunt. it's wonderful to have you with us former president donald trump will be sentenced for his crimes on july 11, just days before he said to me, nominated for president at the republican national convention in an interview with fox over the weekend, trump claimed he is just fine with going to jail but in one of the most volatile divided moments in modern history, here's what he said about how his supporters might react i don't know that the public would stand it i don't i'm not sure the public would stand for it with a house
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arrest or i think i think it'd be tough for the public to take you know, at a certain point, there's a breaking point boyd there's a breaking point. he says, i spoke to democratic congressman adam schiff about those comments over the weekend. here's what he told me this. is clearly donald trump, once again inciting violence, potential violence when he is sentenced, we see this pattern over and over again where donald trump communicates with his base supporters, make you a pretty clear what he wants to see. >> and then his enablers tried to explain it away. this is another dangerous appeal to violence, and it is yet another reason why americans are going to decide they don't want a convicted felon in the oval office. >> all right. our panels here, let's bring in former federal prosecutor, cnn legal analyst elliot williams, scott jennings. he's a cnn senior political commentator and former special assistant to president george bush, w bush and cnn politics, white house reporters stephen collinson is here. >> gentlemen. thank you so much
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for being with us this morning. stephen collinson, i want to start on the big picture here because i really do want to spend some time with what donald trump had to say about his supporters potentially having a quote, unquote, breaking point. i mean, we are seeing are politics become incredibly just incendiary and i think the would immediately came to my mind and what shift was referencing in part was what donald trump said in the debate back in 2020, which was that his supporters should stand back and standby. let's let's watch that what do you want to call them? give me a name, give me a surprise, just like me to condemn proud process and right stand back and yeah, it's for whereas be
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advisers probably about 300 frau voice, their marching eastbound. >> and this 400 block of kind of independence actually own the ball towards the united states capitol and we also had a proud boys tell the january 6 committee that membership grew, quote, unquote, exponentially after donald trump made those stand back and standby comments in that debate i set this up this way to show that the words that donald trump uses have consequences in the real world. >> what do you see here? >> i think your rights to bring up back comparison this is what donald trump does. he says things which can be interpreted multiple ways to various audiences. remember, he was quite constrained at fox news interview by the fact he's still under a gag order in the new york case. so he's choosing where his making his
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inflammatory comments. and in the light of what happened on january the 6th, every time the former president says something like this, you look at it in a different way. having said that, trump made some similar remarks heading into the trial and during the trial, he was complaining there weren't enough people outside and i've supported outside so, you do have to question whether he's still retains that power of mobilization to get his supporters out on the streets are a lot of them are in jail who responded to that call the first time? and they've gone through some of the legal process, aggressive ones and pull at the same time at a time when tensions are so fraught running into this sentencing ahead of the convention, it all it takes is one person to interpret that as a call to action. and that's what's dangerous scott, i also did ask lara trump about this, about what her father-in-law meant when i talked to her on state of the union yesterday, let's just watch what she said well, they're gonna do what they've done from the beginning, which is remain calm and protest at
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the ballot box on november 5, so she's trying to turn down the temperature on this. what is your read on this? i mean, look, you had you worked for mitch mcconnell for many years. i mean, you know how he feels about what happened on january 6 obviously, he has sort of come around and tried to make his peace with trump at this point 0.2, we don't, we don't have to dig into the details of that so severally. but how big of a risk do you think it is for the president to be out here making comments like this? >> well, i think first of all, people would be pretty angry if they try throw donald trump in jail. i mean, let's be honest. i mean, it's it was a misdemeanor paperwork crime contorted into felonies if they tried to throw him into jail on the eve of his convention, as he's leading joe biden and you can see what people will be angry that having been said, look how they reacted to the trial, he got convicted and they got so mad that they went and donated $200 million online to his campaign or wood or whatever it was. and so nothing has happened. i thought lord trump's comments, there were
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appropriate, but make no mistake. republicans are very unhappy, very united in their unhappiness but i don't believe there would be violence and riots. i do believe there would be an uptick in political activism. and when we're already seeing that, the wall street journal editorial page is making this argument this morning under the headline, why republicans hate that trump verdict and they quote mitt romney elliott and they say bragg may have won the battle for now but he may have lost the political war. and this is the part of it that i actually thought was particularly interesting democrats think they can put out the trump fire with oxygen. it is political malpractice put out with trump fire with oxygen, meaning by fueling it more and making it worse. >> i mean, it's an interesting same argument. i i don't know if we're going to go back into debating the merits of the case and so on. it's look, it's not a misdemeanor. it was a felony
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now, the former president will have every opportunity to challenge that on appeal, money is going to even if sentenced to jail time in august right before the crash is not good. going to jail before the convention. that's not going to happen has the right to challenge that. >> you give us a sense of whether you think a jail sentence is appropriate in this case. i the law allows it. >> now, does that does that mean that it happens in most cases like this? probably not. probably. out there are several reasons why i think number one, it doesn't have a criminal history. >> number two most people sentenced for a class e felony in new york, which is what that as are more likely to get probation or community service or something like that. now, it still has a four-year statutory maximum, so you could go to jail for four years per count? probably not going to happen. and moreover his conduct certainly post conviction still mouthing off, still talking could work against him. but i think on balance it's probably not ending up in jail. >> can i offer a counter-argument? the core argument in this case was that
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he committed campaign finance violations, that were so egregious that the new york state prosecutors were forced to charge him with these 34 felonies. so if you actually believe that it was bad enough to charge them with the felonies which carry the jail time. and you believe that it might have actually overturned the outcome of a presidential election? if that's not something you would put someone in jail for than what is i used to. i like you i used to find and make this argument. i used to think the other negative donald trump in jail but but now that i think it through and i here. >> so what was motivating the case in the first place, they might they might sure. >> the judge still has to be able to justify his sentence like he has to put on the record why he sentencing a particular defendant to a particular managed jail time. right and if it's so far out of line with how other people charged with the same in felony the census they've served. it'll be overturned so this idea that the judge has this
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broad latitude to be reckless and just throw donald trump in jail. fly wouldn't be reckless though. what do you mean? why would it be reminiscent? you just say earlier why it would be reckless? >> donald i'm trying to put myself in an area combustible political moment. i know, but that's but that's different than applying the law. if you look we're a nation of laws, the people of new york, elected legislature. they put these punishments in and confused how you are the one that is arguing that donald trump's should i get what you're trying to do? >> i think is it exactly. >> i'm trying to i'm trying to put myself in their shoes, which is to understand their motion but evasions and the motivations of bringing this case to me would also motivate possibly someone there to try to throw him in jail. i'm not arguing that any of this is a good idea. i'm just saying i used to think like what you're saying. oh, they're never gonna do it, but now it's time that they're never going to do it. it's the law. doesn't necessarily support a big jail sentence. and even if the judge wants to throw him in a little one man is preceded on the idea that the whole system is out. you are, you are basically
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saying when you make this argument, well, the system was out to get him. why don't they get them all the way this at the end of the day is a judge who has to make an independent judgment. so i just supported in law and supported right? >> parent judgments supported by every other person who has come before and you like, but it's an unusual situation. it's not unusual if a president is on trial, but it's an unusual situation for local prosecutors to be arguing that we tried to case because we think this guy might have stolen or executory are going to say behind bars, but that doesn't mean the judge is going and i do it. all right. we got to go on donald trump rewriting history. what he claims he never said about hillary clinton will roll that tape plus a key step back for 100 biden just ahead of jury selection. and this 14,000 acres are burning in california, one of the five things you have to see this morning the increase in wildfires is exponential,
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trump. actually, the public also respect the verdict against hunter biden, regardless of what it is absolutely absolutely. and i think the president himself will respect the verdict. they anchor of our constitution is the fact that ordinary citizens get to decide how the rule of law was applied to even the most powerful in our country. that's something we should be proud of. >> our panel is back at elliot williams. let me give this one to you a second. someone earlier who? >> jennifer rodgers, who seem to think that this is actually potentially a likely conviction in no small part because there does seem to be quite a bit of public evidence around the reality that hunter biden was addicted in 2018. >> some of it from here this was from his audio book. this was in 2018. and again, he filled out this form where he got this gun where he had to testify that he was not addicted to drugs in the year 2018. let's watch i return that fall of 2018 after my most
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recent relapse in california with the hope of getting clean through a new therapy and reconciling with tally. >> neither happened now, of course, stipulating all addiction is a very difficult thing to battle at the end of the day, this is at the heart of this case. yeah, it's interesting seeing low-level charges that aren't commonly prosecuted up based on intimate, embarrassing, sensitive, and often sexual conduct being brought by a prosecutor and a joke judge, that are of the different party of the person wastes like and that's not donald trump's trial. that's hundred biden's trial. and my my point is, yeah, no, it is likely conviction on account of this particular session of the law and what they have evidence here. just to be clear, i have prosecuted this type of gun possession statute. no, certainly not for addiction mostly for felon in possession, which is another under the same section of the law. now it's likely conviction, i think based on what seems to be public now, everything as we saw in the donald trump trial
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as well, all depends on how credible the jury finds a witness's how strong they find the evidence. does the defendant testifies? hi, which would probably be a bad idea here as well but publicly again, based on what's in the record and based on how simple these possession statutes are, yeah. i think you'd get a conviction here. >> i'm more worried about joe biden's behavior here. actually, i mean, he was riding bikes with hunter biden yesterday and he is his son. i know any met with ali biden last week, joe biden did. who's a witness and who helped hunter biden? i guess, admittedly get rid of the gun in the trash can. bye the school. i mean there's a lot of talk about respecting the judicial system and i don't try to put my thumb on the scale of the he has been adjacent to an urban i recognize they're related but this man is on trial for a gun charge this week and tax evasion in the future and yet he gets to fly around on air force one hanging out at camp david sleep on the couch at the white house. i
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mean, what signal what signal does it send to the rest of the government? >> but what would you do for what's your kids got? >> i mean, i understand, but i'm not the prezi united states and i don't the justice department took right underneath me. and so i get it. i'm fully sensitive to the point you're making. he is different than every other american. he's the president. he sits at the top of our of our law enforcement system and he's influential. i mean, when i assume people were watching him for his movements while we will continue to cover this trial as it unfolds, jury selection begins today. coming up next here, what donald trump says about the idea of political revenge after his conviction, plus a massive funnel cloud forming in northern texas it's one of five things you have to see this morning duties, celebrating freedom and legacy. >> wednesday, june 19th, their ten on cnn so the irs is auditing your company happened to me a couple of months ago. it was nothing. >> is mark them ever wonder where the people with all the answers get all the answers
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the democratic party and not support larry hogan what, i'll tell you is that we of course want to win as a party, but that is a shame. and i think he should have thought long and hard before he said that publicly lara trump, the rnc co-chair in the daughter-in-law of donald trump is slamming former maryland governor and current republican, republican senate candidate larry hogan. >> during an interview with me on cnn's state of the union yesterday. >> why? >> why was she so in sassed this tweet, which was posted by hogan last week. now, this was after we knew the jury had a verdict, but it was before the verdict was read. and what he said was respect the verdict and the legal process? and don't pour fuel on the fire with more toxic partisanship the trump campaign quickly responded to hogan's tweet with this. this is chris lacivita, who runs the trump campaign. you just ended your campaign so after that exchange with lara trump, i pressed her on whether the republican national committee again charged with
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getting republicans elected, would financially support hogan senate campaign in a blue state where basically he is the only republican with any chance of actually winning statewide office. she said this are you willing to use republican party resources to support his bid or not? it sounds like you're saying you're not well, i'll get back to you on all the specifics monetarily, but what i can tell you is that as the republican party co-chair, i think he should never have said something like that. >> i think that's ridiculous. >> i'll get back to you. scott jennings, you i've been very invested over your career in winning the senate for republicans. >> does this help that, as i was saying, about 100 button know, here's, here's, here's this. >> i'm going to have to do this again. >> it's not it's not good. >> did not support larry hogan. >> he is one of our best chances to literally retake the
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senate. >> so here's the mat. west virginia is gone, so it's in a minimum 50, 50. we got to win one. republicans. i mean and he may do it. he's the one guy who could do it into put maryland on the map in a competitive way. this cycle was a true gift to the republican party and democrats are freaking out about it. so that having been said, i'll put a silver lining on it. it may not be the worst thing in the world for hogan in blue, maryland to be in a feud? with the trump because the. core of the democratic argument is that, oh, he's just going to end up being a rubber stamp for donald trump's republican party. obviously that would undercut that argument, but they're going back and forth. other trump supporters, everyone in the thing is that like trump's supporters, we have seen the listened to him when he says, don't vote early, they don't vote early, right? like they lost them he said and seats in georgia. and there are people who are very much trump supporters in maryland. >> my message would be that it would be better for donald trump if he were the president to have the senate majority than not. and that, that strategic imperative should
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prevail if there's, there probably isn't a republican who could win a senate race in maryland. >> but if there is, that guy is larry hogan principally because his very popular, even among quite a few democrats, his governorship is remembered quite funnily by many democratic voters. and now the issue obviously here is, is he going to get all that turnout he needs in western maryland, which is pure trump country in some of those counties, they tried to join west virginia that's how trump they are, right on the eastern shore two. yeah. one. so he can't really afford trump voters to decide that they're not going to vote for voters. >> it's the machine, it's the ground game and all that the rnc could bring with it. it's just funny and that's what she wouldn't answer. >> sure. i didn't tell me no, we're going to deny you that. we'll see about that but that's an incredibly valuable to the party. you know, what's interesting, just god remember the days of reagan's 11th commandment, dow shalt speak ill of another republican, and it's almost as if the party is so broken that it's about one
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guy as opposed to capital r republicanism nationwide. and i think he's saw some of that playing out here, which is really fascinating, that it's about trump and support for him, not necessarily the goals of the republican party. i'd like your point about winning the senate, being critical. i mean, that seems like a foundation. i mean, your question about the money is was right on because if the republicans don't support larry hogan, then that means the democrats don't have to pour resources because i need that one of the great things about putting this on the mat for the republicans was it's going to be a money sponge for the dams. >> they didn't want to have to spend money here. they don't want to put resources into a blue state like this. and so the party needs to stay with larry hogan. he has a real chance to win and it's better to be in the majority of the minority. just look at the last couple of years and every single seat is going to matter for each side. >> so one other thing that i spoke to lara trump about, again, in her capacity as co-chair of the republican national committee. >> the question about donald trump's sentence has loomed. it is set for july 11, the
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convention, of course, is the following week. so i asked her about scheduling, planning and she actually was not less definitive as i expected that she might be. let's listen are you planning or discussing any changes to the convention in programming or scheduling? >> well, i think we have to be ready for anything as we've seen you know, all bets are off when it comes to donald trump's. so yeah, we have to wait and see so i'll be candid with you, stephen. >> i was a little bit surprised that she was willing to say that she basically also went on to say, whether we have to do it at mar-a-lago or a trump tower? which if we had run that clip a little bit longer, you would have heard that suggested maybe there's a world where donald trump isn't at the convention. >> yeah, i think it's in their interests to raise the possibility that donald trump might be sent to jail instead of going to the convention we've seen how effective that has been from finance. financial, and a fundraising perspective here. i mean, i do find it difficult to think that
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trump's legal team honestly, things, as elliott said, that there's a possibility that the president can be jailed and couldn't go to the convention. but the politics of this really works for the republicans right now. and we're going to see this more and more heading into that. we've got the debate at the end of the month on cnn heading into the convention, into that sentencing is going to get to an absolute fever pitch of political expectation. >> he goes to jail. that's cutting off his own nose despite his face because by going to jail, he waves his right to appeal. so all these questions about bias, judge, and democrats in selective process so in the jury and the instructions, he can't make those, so he would not accept a sentence because he doesn't he has the right not he's still happening. so is able to appeal. it would be silly for me to do that. >> alright, so let's talk about the other side of the political argument. talked a lot about republicans, what they're saying, how this potentially works in their favorite or doesn't. but democrats are also wrestling with how president biden should be responding to this
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conviction. and i spoke with democratic congressman adam schiff, senate candidate in california yesterday about this. this is what he said i think the president should be leaning into this going forward the his competitor is a convicted felon. and you can only imagine if if the situation was reversed, they would be going after joe biden with a vengeance they're making those false claims about joe biden regardless. so i think not only the president, but democrats need to be making the case forcefully to the american people. you want the country run properly. you don't want a convicted felon to turn the oval office and the federal government in some kind of a racketeering operation stephen collinson, this is a very interesting thing to wrestle with because you've seen the president be relatively restrained mitt romney is arguing the opposite of what adam schiff is arguing. he is saying, don't poor oxygen, you don't don't give this oxygen, you get trump. oxygen what he feeds on, it doesn't matter if it's good luck in this matter, if it's good or bad, it just seems to help him. shifa's
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saying look, there is the argument, look, referrals were reversed. you think donald trump wouldn't be aggressively going after, but i mean, absolutely not, right. >> i've heard some democrats say that every time the word donald trump is mentioned in the campaign, it should be prefixed by the phrase convicted felon. convicted felon, donald trump the, evidence of the last few days seems to suggest perhaps that might not work if there's any political benefits so far from this, it seems to be occurring to trump. do gather his supporters more around him? and i think we have to realize that it's quite possible the election is not going to be decided by donald trump's legal issues there are a lot of math icon's that are hurting from high prices. >> they can't afford to buy cars. any impression and as much as the biden administration has struggled to talk about this effectively, any impression that the democrats are just obsessed with donald trump's legal problems could backfire against them. so it's a complicated message. >> chairs all right? coming up next. did he or didn't hillary
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retribution now fresh off 34 criminal convictions in an interview with fox over the weekend, you seem to leave the door open to the possibility of seeking play political revenge on his enemies like this swatch. it's a very interesting question. by revenge will be success. and i mean that but it's awfully hard when you see what they've done. these people are so evil all right, joining me now is a very special guest, the senior political correspondent for the new york times, maggie haberman, she's also a cnn political analyst. maggie, i am so grateful. europe early today to be with us. thank you so much you have covered this guy for decades at this point, and probably no more but then anyone in the country besides the man beside the man himself, about the way he thinks, the way he operates, and how that actually plays out. can we dig into this question of retribution, especially in the wake of this conviction considering some of the things
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we've heard from republican allies who say they should weaponize justice systems and other states to go after people yeah, look, casey, the question of retribution is not being posed very subtly by certainly donald trump's allies right now, if you look on twitter or x formerly known as twitter, if you look at other social media, you can see trump's supporters talking about opening investigations and finding other ways to get back at democrats. trump himself has been trying to walk back his retribution language because his advisers are aware it's not helping him. it doesn't play well with swing voters, but does that mean that donald trump will decide he is going to put aside his desire for retribution, which is a lifelong thing that he has had. no, i don't i it's hard to imagine, but there's possible sure. but there's nothing consistent with donald trump in his life that suggest he's going to say, this is fine now, and i'm not going to look at ways to use the levers of
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government against the people who he thinks went after him. and i should note, casey, he keeps insisting and his people keep insisting that president biden is behind the manhattan district attorney's case against trump. and there is absolutely no evidence for that yeah. >> no, it's very, very important to underscore that maggie, we also heard him talk about he he claimed he was okay with going to jail. >> i'm interested to hear you weigh in on that, but then he also said the public wouldn't be that there would be a breaking point what did you hear in the framing that he had there? >> obviously, it's already become a political back-and-forth about whether he meant violence. i'm curious how you heard it. >> so two things. number one, no, he does not want to go to jail and he's not okay with going to jail. there was nothing about his makeup that is i understand that he has feels like he feels like he has to say that because he believes in not showing any weakness, but no, he doesn't want to go to jail and i don't know anybody who actually wants to go to jail. number one. number two, in terms of his language about people would be upset. it
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would be a breaking point. number one i think it's true that there would be some kind of a reaction just based on what we have seen. although he has said things like that repeatedly, most notably in the lead up to the january 6 attack on the capitol in 2021 by a a pro-trump mob. and we've seen less of that sense. remember when he was indicted in this case? in 2023, he openly called on people to protest against this indictment. >> and the results were were pretty mild because the nasw number of arrests that have taken place of people who were somehow involved in what took place on january 6 has been a deterrent we'll see if that changes here. >> if he is to be sentenced to jail, i want to note one other thing, casey since you were talking on this show about the possibility that trump gets sentenced, right? the sentencing is currently scheduled for right before the republican national convention. >> the july date for sentencing is a date that trump's own lawyers sought. it is not as if the judge was like, oh, yes,
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let's let's do this. they're todd blanche asked for he didn't mention the republican national committee, but he did ask for a mid to late late-july sentencing date. so that was his choice very interesting. >> glad you raised that maggie, i want to make sure we got we dig into the story. anyone that's got copy of the times, this morning can read it on the front page. you talk about new york city which has been almost this partner character in donald trump's life as a place. you say new york city was once donald j. trump's playground, the place where he made his name and then plastered everywhere he could. and now the city that helps make him rich and famous has become his battleground. and mr. trump keeps losing. what else? dig in a little bit to this reporting and kind of what this means in the context of the man short, one thing that was striking as we were working on this story is how frankly, i think exhausted by a constant drama around trump, a lot of
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people are this has been a running, a running feud with donald trump in new york city for many years first now, when he ran in 2016, when he went to vote on the morning of election day, he was literally laughed at by people who were at his polling place this one man called out, you're going to lose i he he he rejected the city back essentially. >> i mean, there was constantly this issue of what was going to be funded good for new york city. he ended up cutting the sum of the tax implications by which new york did well in his tax bill. >> there was just a running back and forth and then he changed his voting registration after talking to his tax lawyers. >> since then, he has been investigated multiple times and he is clearly very angry at the city you saw him hold this rally in the bronx and it was a solid event. he got a lot of people, but he has been trying to roll the city back as much as he believes he's been trolled that's epic.
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>> trolling, shall we say? >> maggie haberman of the new york times. maggie, so grateful for your time. morning thank you so much for being here thanks, casey all right. also in that fox interview, trump was asked why he never went after hillary clinton for her use of a private email server while she was secretary of state. i'm going to take an issue with that question because let me tell you as someone who covered it day in and day out, that matter was brought up frequently through the 2016 election. watch they also luck. >> and i felt that i could have done it, but i felt it would have been a terrible thing. and then this happened to me and so i may feel differently about hillary glenn. i didn't say lock her up, but the people don't say lock her up, lock her up, but okay then we will one nsa and i said pretty openly, sar i come and just relax. let's go. we're going to make our country great so we pointed up itself. >> he says, i didn't say lock her up. >> yes, you did?
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>> for what she's done, they should lock her up hillary clinton has to go to jail. ok. chest to go to jail, you shouldn't lock them up. lock up the lock-up. hillary okay. >> that was through the bikes and the for could measure. >> so he's i mean, he said he's trying not to say it adds certain extent we can it's i almost want to put it into the category of nothing matters because it seems like this is the thing we've been fighting with narrower are so many years when donald trump has been on the stage, he did say it now he's trying to say he didn't say it but the real and none of this is like none of its productive harb, things are productive. >> you know, i just feel like i've seen before, you see it often with white folks convicted of white-collar crimes, that the moment they get pulled into the system, all of a sudden, it's biased, it's rigged, it's corrupt. >> i don't want to pay my taxes anymore. i can't believe i'm a part of this and so on.
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and i think you're seeing playing out here on a national scale because this is a very high-profile figure, someone who has been brought into the system now saying the system is broken, red corrupt, and i don't want to pay my taxes yeah. >> i mean, what donald has never said, he doesn't want to pay his tactic. >> i just mean, it's an argument brought by people because taxes been prosecutors. >> i don't know he did obviously say it. >> i mean, i mean so they didn't lock her up and they didn't go after, which it's interesting if you talked to some republicans out there, the hinterlands, they wonder why not? >> i mean, i mean, think about all those people at the rallies who were chanting that. i don't i mean, there were some people who are wondering, well, i wasn't hillary clinton looked into it more closely, so, but ultimately they did not. i would just say, i mean, this is one of the example, right? >> like the thing that we have seen with trump is a slide away from the norms and general rules of how business this has been conducted in our country
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for decades and this was one of those things that was different about trump on the campaign trail. i mean, there were not other republican. he was one of nearly a dozen republican candidates who ran that time and he was the one that was that brought this up yeah. this reminds me of something trump. once said. i think it was a veterans of foreign wars convention. he said to his supporters, what you see and what a reading is not what's happening. and sometimes i wonder if you just wakes up in the morning, tries to think of the most outrageous thing he can say and get away with and he's sort of playing with us and there's this challenge. >> this morning. we've been talking about incitement violence, and now we're talking about this and it's trump flooding zone and you have to decide which is the really the most important thing that you narrow down on back to maggots. >> point. retribution has been a driving force of trump's life it is a driving force of his political movement. it's not
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everything about is political movement. we're not talking about deplorables or anything like that, but it's undeniable that trump has weaponized grievance. and this is another way that he does it on who is trying supposedly who did he get revenge on in his first term? i mean, he said these things. i'm just i'm i'm thinking back now like who actually felt the seat that the argument and the question until look, actually, this is a great excuse to read some peter baker. i always love reading peter baker, who's on the front page of the new york times, right? there were people inside the first trump administration. there was a congress with more members of the republican party who are willing to stand up to him. there were people who had been in government. there were people like john kelly, right? there were, there were guardrails there were people who felt like they had a duty to the country to serve and a lot of them came in for criticism afterward, right? paul ryan is one of those people. but if you had private conversations with him ahead of trump coming in, he would acknowledge he felt a responsibility to to stand with the country because he understood what was going on
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with trump so things have changed now. and this is what baker writes about. so we're now at a point where the notion that 34 felonies is not automatically disqualifying and a convicted criminal can be a viable candidate for commander in chief and up ends two-and-a-half centuries of assumptions about american democracy. and mr. trump might be returned to office. we can all acknowledge, we can all read the polls that you honestly, he's a head right now. baker writes, quote, if he wins, it means he will have survived two impeachments, four criminal indictments, civil judgments for sexual abuse and business. fraud, and a felony conviction. given that it would be hard hard to imagine what institutional deterrents could discourage abuses or excesses. and he goes on to know when he was president trump claimed the constitution gave him the right to do whatever i want. so while i take your point about what may have happened in a previous trump administration there is there are serious questions about a second one when i hear you read that paragraph, it makes me wonder if there are democrats out there who think
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we have nominated the one guy who might lose well, i mean i mean i mean, obviously need to democrats certainly they will say they will hand-wringing about biden. >> and i would say in response to who has he gotten retribution against even saying in america, we should use the criminal justice system to blank if it's anything other than prosecutor the offenders like the show law and order says, even that threat is frightening enough. and when the former president is saying we need to use the system to go after these people who did this to us the mere threat is sufficient. so even if down trump has not yet prosecuted anyone are going after is you mean you mean me like when president biden threatened and retribution against the border guards who got caught up in that horse hoax. >> okay, wait, i'm asking because i agree with you. >> i don't think president's and pretzel can and should do that. but let's not pretend like there hasn't been some hint of i will use my power point for the calling for sanctions or

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